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Kuyperianism - Session 6 - Doug Wilson | Blueprints for Christendom 2.0 2024 

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Tune-in to Pastor Douglas Wilson at our 2024 Conference, Blueprints for Christendom 2.0 Conference.
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@kpete27
@kpete27 2 месяца назад
There is no 3rd way above the fray. Amen.
@tomandkatherinewilliams7784
@tomandkatherinewilliams7784 2 месяца назад
Doug Wilson, thank you! Thank you for all you do! May The Lord (Lord of all) contine to bless you and you ministry. Tom
@MrAbsentmindedprof
@MrAbsentmindedprof 2 месяца назад
Listening to the conference and praying for the Father's Kingdom to come
@HartyBiker
@HartyBiker 2 месяца назад
44:26 till the end is absolutely incredible. This is the message we need, repent!
@youngpatriotscoalition
@youngpatriotscoalition 2 месяца назад
"When the principles that run against your deepest convictions begin to win the day, then the battle is your calling, and peace has become sin. You must at the price of dearest peace lay your convictions bare before friend and enemy with all the fire of your faith." - Abraham Kuyper May our great King and reigning Redeemer be pleased to widely extend the influence of this conference! Amen.
@shellydavis6784
@shellydavis6784 2 месяца назад
Thank you! Please send pastors to the South! Badly needed here!
@Julie_youtube_
@Julie_youtube_ 2 месяца назад
Amen sister!
@Highproclass
@Highproclass Месяц назад
This is a book: print it Pastor Doug
@IveyConerly
@IveyConerly Месяц назад
Preach!
@MeditationsbyICEMAN
@MeditationsbyICEMAN 2 месяца назад
Yes plz 💯
@RomericanGuy
@RomericanGuy 2 месяца назад
Does anyone know of a good reformed/postmill church in michigan? I'm around the Flint, Mi area. My family and I are in need of a new church.
@jaihummel5057
@jaihummel5057 2 месяца назад
I don't know, take a peek at Tyrone Covenant PCA and Pilgrim Presbyterian Church OPC
@loganross1861
@loganross1861 2 месяца назад
I’ve noticed that the people who say not to care about politics are also scared of dealing with church and theological issues as well. They get squeemish about everything. Seems more like cowardice
@ytang3
@ytang3 2 месяца назад
42:07 was exactly what I heard at CTS about chapel. 😞
@docbrown7513
@docbrown7513 2 месяца назад
Cristian National Congress, Oct 2024, Tulsa OK.
@Vanityofvanity
@Vanityofvanity 12 дней назад
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@kpete27
@kpete27 2 месяца назад
Would you consider Brother Lawrence's The Practice of the resence of God to be Kuyperian?
@toolegittoquit_001
@toolegittoquit_001 Месяц назад
Nope
@NoKingButChrist1689
@NoKingButChrist1689 2 месяца назад
I started to salivate when i saw the title.
@dmeek20
@dmeek20 2 месяца назад
People who criticize the desire for a nation to glorify the Lord in its practices because we "don't see the apostles doing that in the NT... they preachedthe gospel, which is what turns the world upside down": I'm not trying to shout through the internet. I want to discuss. Do you use that argument for every other area of life? Take medicine, for example. Should we approach disease and injury by simply praying for healing and trusting the Lord to miraculously solve our problems, through our display of faith? Or should we use some of the natural means that the Lord has graciously provided to heal and fix? And I'm not talking about the abuse of medical practices, which just prescribes medicine arbitrarily. I'm talking about the good use of medicine. It really seems like people think we are called to be ok with a pluralistic society, as long as we still have the freedom to go to our buildings on Sundays, for an hour, to sing songs and hear a decent sermon. Paul cunningly used the legal means provided to a Roman citizen to keep himself out of greater harm, while preaching the gospel. Could we not do the same?
@eternian6693
@eternian6693 2 месяца назад
Oliver Cromwell came closest to establishing this in England. Why did it not work?
@JR-rs5qs
@JR-rs5qs 2 месяца назад
Except Kuyper wasn't very Kuyperian, or as Reformed as many believe. And he's the the primary person responsible for the Pelagian doctrine of Common Grace, which is a wicked presupposition of the modern church. Abraham Kuyper: We oppose this [Constantinian language in article 36] out of complete conviction, prepared to bear the consequences of our convictions, even when we will be denounced and mocked on that account as unReformed.We would rather be considered not Reformed and insist that men ought not to kill heretics, than that we are left with the Reformed name as the prize for assisting in the shedding of the blood of heretics. It is our conviction: 1) That the examples which are found in the Old Testament are of no force for us because the infallible indication of what was or was not heretical which was present at that time is now lacking. 2) That the Lord and the Apostles never called upon the help of the magistrate to kill with the sword the one who deviated from the truth. Even in connection with such horrible heretics as defiled the congregation in Corinth, Paul mentions nothing of this idea. And it cannot be concluded from any particular word in the New Testament, that in the days when particular revelation should cease, that the rooting out of heretics with the sword is the obligation of magistrates. 3) That our fathers have not developed this monstrous proposition out of principle, but have taken it over from Romish practice. 4) That the acceptance and carrying out of this principle almost always has returned upon the heads of non-heretics and not the truth but heresy has been honored by the magistrate. 5) That this proposition opposes the Spirit and the Christian faith. 6) That this proposition supposed that the magistrate is in a position to judge the difference between truth and heresy, an office of grace which, as appears from the history of eighteen centuries, is not granted by the Holy Spirit, but is withheld. We do not at all hide the fact that we disagree with Calvin, our Confessions, and our Reformed theologians.
@MrAbsentmindedprof
@MrAbsentmindedprof 2 месяца назад
None of that is un-reformed, none is unscriptural, and none is Pelagian. Even if you disagree with it, do so on its own merits, not by strawmanning. And common grace is an unavoidable Biblical doctrine, holding simply that Matthew 5:45 means what it says.
@JR-rs5qs
@JR-rs5qs 2 месяца назад
@@MrAbsentmindedprof Guido de Bres (author of the Confession) and Calvin (an executor of heretics), along with the many reformed churches who held the Confession in its original form for up to 300 years or more (the PRCA still holds to the original) might disagree. Pierre Viret said it was the job of the state to tear down idols, and this was a common thread throughout the Reformers. Kuyper had an ecumenical approach because he was also a politician. It bleeds through into his (and you can really call it his) doctrine of Common Grace. Common Grace is thoroughly Arminian and it grossly contradicts Scripture. If you believe Matt 5:45 teaches it, you must hold to the belief that God has unmerited favor, or love, for the non-Elect, since that is what grace is. That is thoroughly un-reformed. People do not have full knowledge, and thus, we don't know who are Elect and non-Elect, yet God does and he uses people as His Providential instruments by which He gives blessings to His Elect and generosity to the non-Elect so that they fill up their measure of wrath because they do not properly appropriate good things from God. They presume upon the sunlight and rain and do nothing in faith, which is sin, yet the Elect receives all things and does all things in faith, and they are truly gracious to him. Just like during the 40 years before Israel entered the Promised Land, God was sending sunlight and rain upon those wicked people who occupied the land so that they could store of their wrath for their day of judgement that was coming upon them. I don't know how anyone can call that grace when the end is wrath and judgement. Romans 2 destroys Commons Grace, especially verses 4 & 5: 4 Or do you despise the riches of His goodness, forbearance, and longsuffering, not knowing that the goodness of God leads you to repentance? 5 But in accordance with your hardness and your [a]impenitent heart you are [b]treasuring up for yourself wrath in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God...God is 'good' to unbelievers, but the goal of His goodness for those He did not predestine to salvation is not favor; it is wrath and judgement since they have no excuse. Romans 9:14-23, specifically verses 22 & 23, also destroys Common Grace: 22 What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23 and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had prepared beforehand for glory... And also, Psalm 73 regarding the issue of why it seems the wicked are favored by God: 17 Until I went into the sanctuary of God; Then I understood their end 18 Surely You set them in slippery places You cast them down to destruction. 19 Oh, how they are brought to desolation, as in a moment! They are utterly consumed with terrors.20 As a dream when one awakes, So, Lord, when You awake, You shall despise their image....Asaph goes on to show his own remorse for thinking that, I dare say, there's such thing as Common Grace to the wicked. Proponents of Common Grace have gone on to say that the Holy Spirit has a non-salvific operation in the world. That's preposterous. The Spirit convicts the hearts of and brings salvation to the Elect. They say that through Common Grace, man, in his fallen state, is able to do good (civil good). They say it makes man better than he would be without it. It is not grace that keeps a man from being as sinful as he can be. It is the Law which is written on every human heart and it is built into his nature because, though fallen, he is made in the image of God. It is his nature to give good gifts to his own children, but for every gift not given in faith, it is sin for him. Rom 14:23 Furthermore, the Canons of Dort, 3rd & 4th heads of doctrine note the following error of the Arminians: V. Who teach: That the corrupt and natural man can so well use the common grace (by which they understand the light of nature), or the gifts still left him after the fall, that he can gradually gain by their good use a greater, namely, the evangelical or saving grace and salvation itself. And that in this way God on his part shows himself ready to reveal Christ unto all men, since he applies to all sufficiently and efficiently the means necessary to conversion. For the experience of all ages and the Scriptures do both testify that this is untrue. "He showeth his Word unto Jacob, his statues and his ordinances unto Israel. He hath not dealt so with any nation: and as for his ordinances they have not known them," Psalm 147:19, 20. "Who in the generations gone by suffered all the nations to walk in their own way," Acts 14:16. And: "And they (Paul and his companions) having been forbidden of the Holy Spirit to speak the word in Asia, and when they were come over against Mysia, they assayed to go into Bithynia, and the Spirit suffered them not," Acts 16:6, 7. Not surprisingly, Van Til and others have said that Common Grace is a precursor to Saving Grace. They have to say this because this is where the error takes them. How impotent is God's grace when Common Grace fails to manifest itself as Saving Grace for the non-Elect! How impotent is the Spirit when He can restrain sin in a man, but not save him! The legacy of Common Grace is the very wayward CRC, which, 100 years ago, adopted 3 grievous errors that came directly from Kuyper and Bavink. PJ Hoedemaker rightly opposed Kuyper and Bavink. Van Til (CRC) tried further to baptize the doctrine as Reformed. It is not surprising that the Radical 2 Kingdom theology of the URC, coming out of the CRC in the 90's, came out of this false doctrine of Common Grace as well. The PRCA rightly opposed this doctrine and split away from the CRC because of it. They have been vindicated. It is our lack of perfect knowledge which tempts us to grasp a doctrine of Common Grace. It's a short cut that we like to convince ourselves because it simplifies something that is harder to grasp, namely the intricate, Providential plan of God to work throughout time so that the Elect can live in homes they did not build, eat of vineyards they did not plant, etc. Call it the Providence, Goodness, Generosity, Forbearance, and/or Longsuffering of God, but do not call it Grace to the non-Elect. God's Grace is specifically for and to His Elect. The non-Elect have no favor with God.
@Miles_Teg
@Miles_Teg 2 месяца назад
My guy, you’re over complicating the term “common grace”.
@JR-rs5qs
@JR-rs5qs 2 месяца назад
@Miles_Teg I can assure you I am not. Kuyper wrote a massive 3 volume work on Common Grace. I think I know who has overcomplicated the matter.
@Miles_Teg
@Miles_Teg 2 месяца назад
@@JR-rs5qs 👌
@mkshffr4936
@mkshffr4936 2 месяца назад
And yet we are told we have to elect a scoundrel to "save America".
@Zxuma
@Zxuma 2 месяца назад
Do you have a middle eastern messiah to save America? Bring us your middle eastern holy man! Go Trump!
@NoKingButChrist1689
@NoKingButChrist1689 2 месяца назад
Yep sure do. His name is Jesus. ​@Zxuma
@ChrisTisking12256
@ChrisTisking12256 2 месяца назад
@@Zxumathis retort won’t convince anyone of anything. They’re right. Trump won’t stand on anything, even life. Anyone that will compromise on life will compromise on anything. There’s hills to die on. Not interested in throwing my vote away for a coward, And make no mistake, Trump is a coward. His desire to win people over that are ideologically opposed to him is already becoming his downfall.
@annablackburn5474
@annablackburn5474 2 месяца назад
God chose Sampson.
@mkshffr4936
@mkshffr4936 2 месяца назад
@@annablackburn5474 Last I knew no one got to vote for Sampson. There is also that little factor of faith and repentance which are absent in our modern day reprobates.
@richardrice7147
@richardrice7147 2 месяца назад
So Jesus rules on earth right now..or is going to return ? Btw this name Jesus that comes from Greek Iesous, from Idumea, Kyrios Theon...Lord God. That name in Greek sounds a lot more like Esau from Edom than his real name...Yahusha. He comes in the name of the Father, Yah...HalleluYAH. Yah, Yahweh, Yahuah but certainly not Kyrios theon or Lord God. Time to remove the leaven and cleanse the temple
@jaihummel5057
@jaihummel5057 2 месяца назад
He rules earth from heaven and one day he will return. The Bible calls him Kyrios and it's perfectly fine to do so.
@richardrice7147
@richardrice7147 2 месяца назад
@@jaihummel5057 so you think the father revealed his name to Moses as Kyrios?
@toolegittoquit_001
@toolegittoquit_001 Месяц назад
Jesus is on His throne right now
@SimplyReformed
@SimplyReformed 2 месяца назад
The problem with "Kuyperianism", as so defined, is that it is Pietistic but with a national focus instead of a self focus. It seeks to have a Theology Glory with regards to the state, instead of a simple Theology of the Cross. Like all forms of Pietism it undermines Confessionalism, as witnessed by church history. To give one example: American Congregationalism in the 18th century. Where in Ephesians, or any where in the New Testament, is the church called to engage in worldly politics?
@jahnvantuttlesma8215
@jahnvantuttlesma8215 2 месяца назад
You're 100% right, but to be fair to Kuyper, many "Kuyperians" take him much farther than he every went. To understand Kuyper you have to contextualize him. He was arguing for a Christian presence in a pluralistic, Modern society. I always find it humorous when Christian nationalist use Kuyper considering that he specifically separated the church and state in his writings.
@Mattsprankle
@Mattsprankle 2 месяца назад
Would this be a NT answer to your last question? Acts 17:6 (ESV): And when they could not find them, they dragged Jason and some of the brothers before the city authorities, shouting, “These men who have turned the world upside down have come here also,” Sounds like their life and doctrine was causing political problems, no?
@jahnvantuttlesma8215
@jahnvantuttlesma8215 2 месяца назад
@@Mattsprankle I don't think that anyone denies life can cause political problems, and I image that most believe that doctrine impacts politics.
@kyleboone1242
@kyleboone1242 2 месяца назад
@@Mattsprankle This was slander from the Jews against them, not a badge of honor to be worn. Ironically, Paul writes back to this church in Thessalonica and says "and to aspire to live quietly, and to mind your own affairs (1 Thess 4:11)." Do you think that meant taking political action?
@davidliu7967
@davidliu7967 2 месяца назад
@@christianmama2441I’m sorry, but this view of running from our call to baptize and make disciples of all nations because engaging in politics doesn’t suite you is a problem. The judgement our nation and world is facing is because we have handed over territory that wasn’t ours to give. Neutrality is a lie and there is no co-existing with secularism. Everything belongs to the Lord, everything. These aren’t false teachings, this is 100% Biblical. All authority on Heaven and Earth have been given to the Son. Read Psalm 2. I, and many others, are tired of “not getting involved” while they mutilate the kids and spit in the face of our Creator.
@jahnvantuttlesma8215
@jahnvantuttlesma8215 2 месяца назад
If I had any doubt that Joel didn't care about the gospel, he all but confirmed it by platforming Doug.
@raker1980
@raker1980 2 месяца назад
Why are you gay?
@HartyBiker
@HartyBiker 2 месяца назад
So Wilson ended this with a monologue for around 5-10 minutes which can be simplified by saying to the nation "repent!" and you say that they don't care about the gospel? I think you just have Doug derangement syndrome, or maybe you just hate Calvinism.
@philipmurray9796
@philipmurray9796 2 месяца назад
Doug has more gospel in his little pinky finger than in your entire body brother.
@jahnvantuttlesma8215
@jahnvantuttlesma8215 2 месяца назад
@@philipmurray9796 The guys is a federal visionist. You seem to be conflating the law and gospel
@philipmurray9796
@philipmurray9796 2 месяца назад
@@jahnvantuttlesma8215 Federal vision is a Boogeyman. It's simply Westminster Confession of Faith and covenantal thinking. It is not a confusion of law and gospel.
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