Labour Will Be The Greenest Government EVER! | Interview with Dale Vince 

100% agree, it was the same conclusion I was coming to the more I thought and listened, because we do know hes talking absolute bullcrap regarding labour

Greener than any other party that could win

What the hell does green mean?

@@nathanwitwerShorthand for environmentally sustainable.

@@flannel2699 Most "green tech" is essentially nothing to do actual green issues nor is it sustainable. Its just "lower impact" in some key respects if not all, and a way to eek resources out for longer. However this really has to go along with actual green and sustainable practice which tech and energy is constantly overshadowing and confusing the issue around. Because industrialists and asset capitalist are the only ones with the wealth to pay for genuine green and sustainable initiatives, which would entail a huge amount of wages for a vast amount of labour, and they don't want to pay for the huge cost of what's required, they want to continue living to vast excess maintaining their claims on all primary resources and energy required.

@@leifcian4288 Thanks.. but I was just giving NathanW the definition of broadly what is meant by ‘green’ re: “The greenest government ever” quote by the OP. I understand the term is a bit fluffy, context sensitive and often abused.

He does realise that there are more than two parties I assume?

@@juliewake4585 the others can’t win, as he said. You can vote green until you are blue in the face it won’t make the slightest difference

Not dim at all; just dishonest

@@Ratbum I don't know, to be a founder of Just Stop Oil and to run Ecotricity, you have to be quite committed to climate justice. I genuinely do not understand him.

We are all voting Green in Norwich.❎❎❎❎❎❎

Green are against nuclear and want to drag Brits back into the EU and ignore the referendum result, 2 general elections and a decade of MEP elections. They are therefore unelectable, so we'll be voting Labour in Brighton Pavilion too.

Already have 🤠💚

Exactly this.

what would be the fucking point of backing a party that can not win under our electoral system? especially when the issue is so urgent. backing a party that has the ability to win and a party that has shown an interest in implementing some positive environmental policies doesn't appear to be an abandonment of his principles. the man has donated to the labour party for the past decade or so... he isn't just backing labour because it looks like they will win.

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@@lougordon8168 Because a Labour government with a big majority will probably just ignore him. We need some strong opposition voices in parliament to back him up!

@@moldyolddough1 We are all voting Green in Norwich.❎❎❎❎❎❎

It’s hilarious how you think principles and conviction will help. The greens might get 2 mps, so what actual difference will they make? You are clearly a Corbyn cultist that thinks protesting your whole life counts for anything.

We are all voting Green in Norwich.❎❎❎❎❎❎

@@jamesdunn8968I hope they get in.

@@theresamcghee8362 better pragmatically to vote tactically to kick a Tory out and increase the chance of getting a more environmental Lib Dems for the opposition, unless you’re in one of the 4 target seats where Greens have a chance. I suggest this as a lifelong Green voter but I’d happily vote tactically this one election if Tories had any chance where I am (luckily they don’t).

Yes, vote green to make sure we never get solar power, onshore wind, nuclear power or electric trains!

@@TheCam920 I’m sure there’s logic in there somewhere.

NJ - I'm not entirely sure I think he knows fine rightly what it is, his behaviour and actions would lead me to believe that he looking for some quid pro quo for investment under GBE. I also think he's sending a signal to the Greens for a punishment here for not aligning to his interests

British energy will invest public money in projects, so exactly the point he was making. Nowhere did he suggest it would be an energy company - it may be a producer, it won’t be a supplier. Seems like you don’t understand

What is it, really..? Initially I thought/hoped it was nervous-flag-waving-voter friendly branding for publicly owned electricity production but it’s all a bit vague. Perhaps intentionally so..

@@flannel2699 it will be a state owned company that invests in green energy production, so it will get involved in projects like new technology, expanding renewable energy schemes etc. It won’t be an energy supplier, so consumers won’t be able to buy directly from them, but it will sell energy into the wholesale market.

I’m in a safe Labour seat but I’m voting GREEN to send a message. It’s bloody disappointing how much coverage you lot get. Best of luck & hope you get all four seats! (and roll on PR !)

Love this comment.

We are all voting Green in Norwich.❎❎❎❎❎❎❎

Silly comment The greens are never going to win power, they won’t form a govt But you know that

What have the Greens done for Brighton Pavilion?

Everything is relative, no UK Government has ever had any green MPs.

@@jimpaddy79 Bute House Agreement ..?

Only idiots hitch themselves to Green Party and believe they can make a difference. They can’t.

Agreed. His lack of eye contact and techno optimism is very concerning too. Biofuels, “green aviation” and against heat pumps? WTF?!?!

Noone asked but keith thought people needed to know he’s ’not a tree-hugger’

No he hasnt

I’m shocked!

@@juliewake4585 I wasn't.

@@grayssportsalmanac85 a little sarcasm goes a long way.

He did not lie to get elected. If you read the pledges carefully you will see they mostly still apply, those that don’t are because of economic changes In any case pledges aren’t policy they are only an offer to the public to vote on. Corbyn made lots of promises, but none of them have happened.

@@juliewake4585 😜👍🏽

We are all voting Green in Norwich.❎❎❎❎❎❎❎

Big oil doesn’t donate to labour

Go and vote green then and enjoy them achieving absolutely nothing

So how about a retune to 1970 living standards as that was green. NO FOREIGN TRAVEL NO IMPORTED FOOD ONLY FOOD IN SEASON WORK AND LIVE IN CLOSE LOCATION NOT MUCH FREE CASH TO SPEND ON FRIVOLOUS THINGS LIKE MOBILE PHONES.

Maybe he’s getting GBE investment commitments for his GrassGas ?

He totally lost me at that. Even replacing gas boilers with electric versions (not heat pumps) and focusing on zero carbon energy generation expansion in the form of wind, tidal and geothermal would be a far faster route to reducing GGEs. All the technology exists right now to stop using combustion as a heat source and this Grass gas is just a vanity project by someone hoping to corner a market with his new buddies, the Labour Party.

Yeah that was the point of realization for me too 😂

Tell us why.

He isn’t though, if he was you could provide some examples

@@RobinHarris-nf4yv I'm not OP but one example would be heat pumps: in what way is gas from grass presumably then being fed into a gas boiler more efficient than heat pumps?

Because his electoral math is completely off point. There's no need to maximise the labour vote in this election at the cost of the green party. Arguing that Labour winning in those seats would be more conducive to a transformative left wing government doesn't work when the current Labour Party has shown that their policy will be anything but transformative

@@carlettienne2596 I have to laugh when leftists use the term “transformative”

Some false arguments there. The world is led by the most advanced economies and they all need planes.

@@RobinHarris-nf4yv By the same token, can you not argue that the world is being destroyed by the most advanced economies with jets being a small part of the destruction mix..?

@@RobinHarris-nf4yv - Sorry, but those are false arguments, which demonstrate a lack of understanding of the climate and ecological emergency. As Professor Kevin Anderson, a leading climate scientist points out, there are no radically unaltered futures. What he means by this, is things are going to radically change, whether people like it or not. The surest way to the most unpleasant and adverse change, is trying to carry on with business as usual. It will quite literally, result in the collapse of our civilization. Nor are we talking about far off in the future. We're only one stop away from global food shortages, which in the current free market system, would produce food hyperinflation, cause massive social unrest, and could lead to civilization collapse. Remember, the UK is facing greatly reduced agricultural yields this year, due to the wettest 18 months on record, a consequence of climate change. There are similarly reduced agricultural yields, due to extreme weather in different parts of the world. All it will take, is in a given year, for there to be a number of these extreme weather events and runs, in a given year, to create global food shortages, which will totally disrupt our system. I can't use all the references for this, because I had my RU-vid account suspended once, for using scientific references. But be assured, I can support everything I say, with impeccable scientific references, along with the likes of the UN Secretary General, Sir David King, the former UK Government, Chief Scientific Adviser, the WMO and far more. None of the points I made are false, but your arguments are. It is not what people want, it is what is possible, and what will happen. All you need to not see this, is to be in denial or not acknowledging the scientific evidence.

@@RobinHarris-nf4yv To drop the bombs perhaps?

he's just a businessman, simple as. that why he say "you can't expect people to do without"...because he wants to sell them the 'alternative'.

A very Green Party won’t win power.

@@RobinHarris-nf4yv and a planet that doesn't take climate action as fast as is necessary has a troubling future ahead. Catch 22.

@@Boopop1024 there’s no catch 22 There’s no chance of a radical Green Party winning power Don’t let perfection be the enemy of the good

@@RobinHarris-nf4yv Labour will be vastly better than the Tories on the climate and in general. There’ll be a lot of pressure after the election for electoral reform too and if we get that in time that would significantly help the Green party. I’ve voted Green all my life but I’d happily tactically vote for Labour or Lib Dems to get rid of a Tory this election (if the Tory had a chance in my seat).

Unfortunately the crime became too bad at Glastonbury without the walls.

Its happening everywhere that nobody looks, its quantum you see, it knows when nobody is observing it, so, in the middle of the night there are huge heat waves and forest fires and the sea rises five miles, then, when the sun rises everything appears ordinary and calm and shitty overcast sand cold again ... they will invent some bs like this and give it a posh bs name, like 'warming beyond the quantum horizon', which they will then later rename as something orwellian or euphemistic or something, 'subliminal warming', I donno, maybe we should run a competition for the most rediculous phrase ... which some think tank working-from-home executive will adopt, and repeat at two conferences per year to justify his mega wage to pretentious twits ...

The tories are practically invisible in both seats do his argument doesn’t stack up at all. Greens will likely vote the right way on anything important do it’s a non-issue. Plus they can help keep climate/social justice front and centre. Greens in a Labour gov parliament is a win win.

I listened to that part 3 times. He did not. Can only be splitting the left vote

People's massive bills with heat pumps show this ... only an idiot (sorry) would get one ... its obviously easier to heat air inside the house as its warmer than the air outside to start with ... clearly, it takes more energy to gheat cold air than it does to heat tepid air ... In physics, this is known as 'the conservation of energy malarky', which, is, you cant create energy out of nowhere. ... But, it doesnt take 'thienth' to know that heat pumps are nonsense, just human experience of heating ... when its cold, you dont eff around with cold air from outside ... you keep the tepid air inside, and heat it ... obviously ... the scam artists want folks to have good insulation, then ignore insulation by heating cold air from outside ... To make money out of the stupid tech ... To make money out of your lecy bill ... Surprise surprise, the same shareholding portfoio entities own shares in the new tech companies, and oil, and elecy companies, and, all the big corporations pretty much The 'green' tech is grey isnt it, and the grey men are making billlions from their new scam Real green typically looks green, like plants and trees ... they are free ... 'green' councils are not encouraging such things ... no new allotments, no new community farms ... just new nonsense grey tech ... insane posh spending that feeds the new mega-rich scam

Because they're competition to his business interests

@@DaProHobbit They might be ... he might be dodgy ... But ihe could be right and dogy ... heat pumps ... heat the cold air and pump it in ... defies (a) commom experience, and (b) physics ... utterly ... its a mockery ... insulate your house, then heat the cold air from outside, using loads of electrickery, then pump it in using more electrickery ... heating tepid air that's in the house to a warmer temp is obviously easier and less energy ... try heating frozen soup ... then try heating room temperature soup ... durr ... massive scam ... Scam for the manufacturers (probably owned by the mega rich), scam for the installers (the chosen new, even more corrupt middle class) ... scam for the electrickery companies (owned by the mega rich) ... The same mega rich that own big oil, the oiligarchs, they are the oligarchs that own the corporations that will profit from the new stuff. Whether it works or not, they dont give a damn

Really? You're commenting on his haircut? It's his chosen one, that's what it is, why does it matter?

@@mjwilliamsb2676 haha it just really bamboozles me sorry

@@JoeWedgwood-ik9zo I don't like it much, but it doesn't bother me - He's just a really unconventional individual, bit of maverick, so that's likely why he has that haircut, but I'm more interested in what he says and does... We need our mavericks!