Hmm. As far as we've been able to work out they didn't but it sounds like we were wrong! The switch on this car to open and close it though doesn't match the factory ones we've seen.
I’ve owned my Ralliart for a few years now and here’s some cold weather advice. Make sure to swap the ACD pump from under the car and into the hatch. 16” wheels/tires are cheaper replacements. The transmission cooler sits behind the driver side fog light can get corroded over time and leak. Upgrading it is a good option. The plastic undercarriage shield might fall apart and can be upgraded to a thicker gauge option. Companies like Clubspec Chitown Customs specialize specifically on the Ralliart platform.
Hello, i have an 09 ralliart, i am glad to see it getting recognition in this video. There are lots of fairly cheap upgrades possible. Andrew pye sells a 6 piston brembos big brake kit, evo x rear brakes bolt on directly with minor modifications Used evo x intercooler and about 200$ in other parts, plus a tune will net you over 80 horsepower to the wheels. The turbo can be upgraded for under 1000$, and coupled with a manifold, injectors, and possibly a fuel pump on an e85 tune, you will see over 120 more hp Mine is currently down for a turbo rebuild, after 140k hard miles it finally went out on me. Thank you for this video and I look forward to more!
After owning an 04 Ralliart, WRX, EVO X, and an EVO 8, I can say that this Ralliart is a very smart buy. It's easily upgraded with parts from the EVO while maintaining its usefulness as an everyday driver. Good choice.
I remember when I spotted my first Lancer of this generation and instantly loved the styling, particularly of the front "mouth" area. It just looked so aggressive compared to everything else that was on the road. I'm looking forward to the updates with this vehicle over the next few years. Hopefully it's trouble-free motoring for Todd!
The dealerships don't know how to work on the sst so they just replace them. Shops like Kozmic motorsports in Texas or SJL in Canada can repair/ upgrade the SST for a lot less.
The dealership doesn't know how because (unfortunately) it's not a Mitsubishi transmission but a Getrag. Better still, it's not designed for a dealer mechanic to work on it. I believe they planned in advance that if it malfunctioned the mechanic would send it to Getrag for "depot maintenance".
@@CherrySquishee Jack's is just about the least reputable shop that services these transmissions. They are known to have caused huge issues for SST customers in the past.
AlDim000 they did some work on my Evo. The work seems good still and it’s been about 4 years, but they definitely took their sweet time and were awful at communicating during the repair. Its still not cheap to fix but cheaper than a new trans.
You should get your transmission ECU flashed to include Super-Sport mode like the Evo MR has. It uses more clutch pressure therefore allowing less slip, which equals longer clutch life. It also allows for much faster, crisper shifts, also prolonging clutch life; not to mention better throttle response and of course a more fun driving experience.
I've been waiting for this update since October! Psyched to finally have a long term on the Lancer. I'd love to pick one up to be the winter car to my BRZ. Excellent piece, Todd!
Alsooooo!!!! Sorry for the spam but if the transmission does die you can get it rebuilt at two shops in the United States. Jacks Transmissions in Colorado or Kozmic Motorsports in Texas. They’re the only 2 that will break the thing apart and work on it. Price around $2800-$3500
I just purchased this exact car at an auction car for $3750 several months ago with 86k miles. I just put an aftermarket exhaust and thank god it came with silencers. I'll sell you my factory exhaust if you are interested.
Any update on this car? I am the proud owner of a completely stock Lancer Sportback Ralliart with 124k miles and I am still in love with it. Happy to see a video like this.
@@phattyhales My 2011 has it. When shopping for one, I looked a several 2010 that had it. Maybe late in year it became an option as part of the sun and sound premium package, or was an optional dealer installed item.
Hi, great video! I have a 2011 Raliart sedan that I’m pushing 110,000 miles on. I haven’t modified mine much, just a stage 1 intake and exhaust and reflash. The biggest reason I haven’t done more is the small fuel tank these cars have. I rarely see 300 miles on a tank. I work nights and it is about 40 miles to work in northeastern Ohio weather. The best thing I’ve done to mine is to install a Viper Smart Start system on it. The transmission fluid is fairly thick and takes a while to warm up. It’s nice to go out to warm car that I don’t have to let the transmission warm before drive.
U gotta change the SST fluid earlier than what the manual says. Mine threw up multiple critical faults and wouldn't get into gears and I tbough it was dead, gambled and changed the fluid and it came back to life. This transmission is very very sensitive to dirty fluid!
@@vertio7 30K miles is widely recommend. Mine is high mileage (178k miles), I may start changing the fluid every 25k, or when I feel like the shifting is getting a bit rough.
Hello! Great choice in a daily/winter vehicle. I have the sedan version. This weekend I did a td06 20g upgrade with a 9 wheel billet blade. Full hot parts kit from MAperformance including a tubular manifold, 02 eliminator vta downpipe, id 1050x injectors, aero fuel pump, synapse diverter valve and other bolt ons parts including 4in fmic, ic piping , test pipe injen intake and cat back. Basemapped for the weekend and will be tuned tomorrow. I consider it a wolf in sheeps clothing when one opens up its potential.
I had the car dynoed. 405whp on 330tq. Clutches started slipping because we did not install s sport which adds 20% more clamping force. S sport is installed now and it is faster than when it dynoed at 405whp. For a 13k car I am faster than most cars on the strert with the creature comforts of a modern vehicle. Love the car!!! Next steps are AMS TMP cams, timing belt change and re tune in e85. My injectors are not being pushed anywhere near their potential
I loved the Ralliart‘s TC-SST until it died due to shift fork malfunction. I currently have a dead 2010 ralliart sitting at my friends house 😭🤷🏽♂️. Wish they would’ve offered this vehicle with a traditional manual transmission. I would recommend rebuilding the twin clutch trans if you want more power or it will overheat. Also do the trans fluid & trans filter changes before the service intervals in your maintenance manual!!! Mitsu was optimistic about how long the fluid is good for. Gets dirty super fast.
I thought it was dumb that Mitsubishi only sold it with the Getrag flappy-paddle transmission. The car could have been lighter and less expensive if they just put in a wide-ratio 5-speed. Or, heck, the 6-speed they sold in the Evo IX had a torque rating too low for the 4G63, but a tranny that strong would have been fine with the Ralliart engine.
For anyone interested, VW DSG fluid is exactly the same as the Diaqueen SST-F1 that Mitsubishi sells and it costs 1/4 -1/3 as much. I now have over 100,000KM on my SST running DSG fluid with no ill effect and the much lower price has allowed me to do changes more often and really isn't hard to do yourself. I'd say most people put off doing the fluid change because of the absurd cost at the dealership. When I first called for a quote I actually thought they were quoting me the price of a new transmission or a rebuild or something, could'nt believe it. Recommended interval for "spirited" driving is 45,000KM, anecdotally I'd recommend half that.
1:31 How is a Ralliart a 3700 lb car? Is that with 2 people in it? A 2008 Evo X GSR weighed 3586 lbs with the (one) option package and a full tank of gas. Oh, well... Thumbs up for "wintercross". :)
Maybe its the added steel for the "hatch" body? Id assume more sound deadening would be needed too since the whole cabin is exposed to the exhaust and rear wheels whereas a sedan doesnt need to sound deaden the trunk because its a seperate compartment.
@@PenguinGaming IDK, I think the hatch body is the length of the sedan, with the trunk cut off. Maybe they had to reinforce it to make up for having an opening so much bigger than the trunk. I just remembered the Evo X had aluminum hood, front fenders, and roof, and I'm still not convinced that makes up for the weight of the AYC, which was rumored to weigh 180 lbs.
The SST transmission is much heavier than the GSR's 5-speed. More glass (sunroof and hatch) and more frame and bodywork for the hatchback should make up your extra weight. If the sunroof is powered, those mechanisms will add further weight. It also wouldn't surprise me if some parts on the GSR are lighter specifically for the purpose of minor weight savings as it is intended to be a more performance focused model.
The Ralliart Sportback's weight is actually 3,572 lb for the Sportback and much less for the Sedan (3462). Sedan vs sedan, the Ralliart is a lighter than a GSR (3517) and much lighter than an MR (3594 lb).
There was quite a good comparison video of the Evo X & Lancer Ralliart, they had them both up on ramps so you could see the differences, there were a lot. The suspension is totally different, much more complex in the Evo, the engine & SST gearbox and a few of the body parts were shared but surprisingly little else, you would have thought more shared parts would have kept the costs down.
I think when it comes to Mitsubishi's halo cars (the Evos) they really go all out and make sure it's done right (mechanically anyway). Some non-critical interior parts are still cheap (I have an Evo X so I know this personally lol).
I like how he said it is actually pretty similar to the Evo 9. I have passively looked at Evo's for a few years and don't like the 10's as much. I would be down for the 9 though! If this gets me closer to that now you've got my attention!
I have an Evo X, and I wondered what it would be like having the Ralliart instead. Wouldn't the hatchback body be way more convenient than having my battery and washer bottle in the trunk? Would the smaller turbo and different gear ratios make it more responsive? How many mpg would I gain with that tall 6th gear? Then we get to the question of: When a noisy diesel pickup challenges me at a traffic light, would I still be able to leave him behind? Probably not. When that "Hemi" Ram was showing off how loud his engine was, and the highway opened up for us, would I still be able to *beat him up and take his lunch money?* Or maybe this is the more important question: Is the Evo X or the Ralliart more fun on a mountain road with nobody around? At some point I remember the Ralliart came with a flappy-paddle tranny, and then my 5-speed Evo seems like more of a drivers car.
I came SO close to purchasing one just three months back. Ultimately I passed because of the interior, shady dealer, and hearing about the transmission and AWD failure rates/costs on these cars. I don't at all regret the car I bought instead, as it fits my needs a lot better than the Lancer, but it'll be entertaining to watch how this unfolds. I enjoyed my test drive a lot and it would be neat to own one sometime down the road.
The front grill is painted all blue, the wheels are from a EVO X GSR, in case you were wondering what else is not "stock". I have a 2009 sedan with the full package HID/roof/nav/sat/leather/Suede/Recaro. ACD pump is prone to failures and costs a lot of money to fix, transmission requires OEM liquid or else it fries itself in no time. Also, lots of shift fork issues.
The soundproofing reminds me of my dad's VW Sharan from 2001 , we went to many trips in that car when it was almost brand new but on the highway my ears were folding .
I find it interesting when I look at Paul and Todd’s garages, there is only one manual transmission car... Expedition, Cayman, Cayenne, and Lancer are all auto/dual clutch and only the Elise has a third pedal. I’m not judging, but it got my attention.
Great video. I bought a lightly modded 2015 evo x gsr. Love it. It also came w a really loud exhaust. I got some silencers off eBay for it so it’s livable now. Great handling fast car.
Having owned and currently own Mitsubishi products, based on my experiences, this car will treat you well for a very long time. I find Mitsu's awd to be very good perhaps better than Subaru. Nice find! Drive safe!
I would disagree with the Subaru/Mitsubishi AWD comment. Subaru has a proven AWD system with a long-time pedigree behind it. However, Mitsubishi does do a good job with some of their cars. I prefer the quality of the WRX, but the looks of the Lancer...
Mitsubishi's AWD system is more sophisticated than Subaru's, but the Subaru AWD system is actually more effective when travelling on rough or unsealed roads. It's why Evos tend to be favoured for on-track prowess whereas the WRX STi is the more practicable daily vehicle.
A (free) GST map will do magic to transmission and power. The ACD pump will eventually brake down in winter conditions. Expensive. - my experience of 9 years ownership.
Timing chain stretch can also be an issue in the earlier RA models. I had both the '09 and '13 RA. '13 had the improvements to timing chain and ACD pump.
Awesome overview! Really love these cars. Will hopefully get to play with one someday. Interesting insight into the DCT. I'd go for the manual though. :)
check out the "Ralliart Revoulution" page on facebook. There is hundreds of ralliart owners on there and every single one of them is only there to help. shit talking and trolling is not tolerated so it makes it one of, if not, the best car forum page to be a part of.
I actually own this car without the sunroof, and there are couple places in the US that will rebuild the SST and costs around 2k that being said you do have to ship them your transmission or take it there.
Nice car I have a 2010 Ralliart non sports back transmission is touchy but I love it and the car extremely reliable. Take car of the fluid flush every 15,000 miles or 20
Kozmic Motorsports sells a heated sump made by Dodson that takes the hot coolant of the engine and passes it through the sump of the transmission to bring it up to temp quicker.
Go to Kozmic Motorsports in Houston TX, they are Number 1 in the Mitsu SST department! If you have a problem or want to upgrade (which I recommend, Those Fork magnets are notorious of coming off!) They are the way to go! I got mine serviced and upgraded and its been running strong since 2014, (EVO X MR 08)
In Australia the evo x MR begins generally at 22k AUD, generally a good one is roughly 25-32k, I picked up a built sst ralliart with all the bells n whistles for 11k, huge price drop considering it's the same engine
My buddies buddy has this car. I came from a Speed 3, and I got myself an EVO X 2011 last year. I miss the ROOM!! bigger fuel tank, and a bake whipper. Also, you sound just like MIKE ROWE from Dirty Jobs. lol.
I've not historically been a fan of the Lancer line. But I have to say that is quite a good looking car. It's a shame that it isn't available with a true manual. For me that would be a deal breaker because I love driving a manual. I don't care of dual clutch boxes or some true automatics are quicker I like driving a manual. I don't get a lot of snow where i'm at (Dallas, Tx) but I did own a 2002 WRX for a while and that car was fantastic in wet conditions. I had often considered revisiting an AWD car in the form of a newer WRX or STI as my WRX was a pretty good daily driver. I look forward to your extended review after owning this Lancer for a while.
i cringed hard when he said that, he says a lot of wrong stuff in this video and keeps giving his opinion when he should just show the car which is what people want to see
I hate they made all ralliarts automatic, therefore if you want a manual you gotta get an underpowered GT or expensive evo. But if you look past the crappy radio which can easily be changed, and you look after the transmission like a baby as you’ve stated, it’s a great vehicle
@Julian Silva yeah I had to get mine manual GTS from colorado, it seems that a lot of the mountain states prefer manuals, but there's none in California where I'm at
i bought my RA sportback 2 weeks ago in a heartbeat. just because its very hard to find one here in LA. and its the car i need especially i have a family now. i was asked a couple of times on a stop asking me is that the new Lancer? LoL mines 2010 haha! i guess its really kinda rare to see one.
