Landscape Photography - Digital and Film for Infrared

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There's not much you can do as a landscape photographer when it's a blinding hot day with no cloud. You could give Infrared a go however and on this strenuous jaunt into the hills I take a converted digital camera and a little film compact, how will they compare?
Still images can be viewed on my Instagram page I no longer post to my Flickr account.
Equipment Used
Canon G15 Infrared Conversion (720nm) by Protech Repairs (UK)
Olympus RC with 720nm filter and Rollei IR 400 film (EI6 for IR shots)
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Mark II Artists Viewfinder (App Store)
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@TheMarkos1982 3 года назад

What I like about these videos is it provides further proof that you do not need the latest, most expensive gear to get great photos - you just imagination!

@SteveONions 3 года назад

I’d go as far as saying the latest gear can hold you back Mark, the older equipment has so few controls it frees you up to concentrate on the images themselves.

@TheMarkos1982 3 года назад

@@SteveONions couldn't agree more - the amount of time spent flicking through menus and sub-menus and I'm missing the shot!!

@moes_film 2 года назад

5:20 i think that shot still looks amazing even with the flare.

@j.c.m5168 3 года назад

Another brilliant video, Steve. I often find myself shooting digital for the convenience of it...and then I find myself spending ample time in post making it "look" more like film. In my opinion, film is just perfection.

@SteveONions 3 года назад

+1 👍

@simonbarnes7124 3 года назад

My nifty fifty nikkor lens came today. Immaculate condition. I shall be trying it out in the next day or so. Having been doing digital since 2002 it leaves me a bit cold tbh. I’ve always loved grain and the organic look it brings, but it seems sharpness is all people talk about today and focus tracking with eye autofocus. The infrared images looked great Steve. Those cliff edges looked a bit sketchy. That Olympus worked very well with some blue tack. Always a delight watching you on your travels. Until next time.

@SteveONions 3 года назад

Thanks Simon, the fixed lens cameras are obviously limited when it comes to the composition but I do like standard focal lengths and when it’s a balanced image like a lot of these it’s a joy to use.

@DizinEire 3 года назад

Hi Steve. Good to see the stile climbing skills are being fine tuned! To me,the results look similar from both cameras. Maybe the film just has the edge. Love the lens flare @5:22. I would be tempted to make a 20 inch print to over emphasise the grain and flair . Great Vlog Steve. Cheers Diz

@j.c.m5168 3 года назад

Absolutely. The shot with the flare is superb!

@SteveONions 3 года назад

It’s definitely growing on me 😊

@WrexelsWorld 3 года назад

G15 shots look very "journalistic" and the RC shots look very artistic at least from RU-vid. Great video👌

@SteveONions 3 года назад

Thank you 😊

@arty2917 3 года назад

You IR photography skill is only surpassed by your ability to find invisible fences!

@SteveONions 3 года назад

🙂

@chrisjwilson 3 года назад

I love the flexibility of Film cameras for infrared. You don't have to get a separate camera and convert it, just pick up a roll of film and filter. Thanks for taking us on the walk.

@SteveONions 3 года назад

Glad you liked it Chris 👍

@B3D5X 3 года назад

I’ve shot a ton of infrared film in my day and I’ll tell ya that with a 720nm filter the Rollei IR performs best metering at ISO 6. f/5.6, 1/30s is my rule in bright sun. I like to develop in Rodinal 1+50, 12 minutes. One other cool thing: guess how to develop Kodak HIE, Macophot IR820, or Efke IR... Rodinal 1+50, 12 mins.

@SteveONions 3 года назад

Totally agree Nick. I discovered years ago that anything faster than EI 6 gives very lacklustre results.

@DaveInElland 3 года назад

FWIW I’ve shot a lot of the Rollei in both 35mm and 120. I too have found that a 720nm filter and an EI of 6 hits the sweet spot very nicely, negatives that scan nicely and print well in the darkroom. You mention at one point you need a lens hood for the Olympus - given the shape of that flare would a correctly fitting filter have saved the day? Another interesting watch - thank you. Regards Dave

@phillipP8848 3 года назад

Steve, you really are a master of the IR, whether it is on digital or film. As always, an enjoyable video, many thanks.

@SteveONions 3 года назад

Thanks Phillip.

@podhoncisty 3 года назад

I love it, beautiful images, interesting video as always 👍

@alanandkarenbootholdfield6179 3 года назад

Nice to see a different type of photography

@RexBer 3 года назад

another great one, thanks! I use the 35RC as well, and got a step-up ring so I can use 49mm filters, I think it's 40.5-49mm step up? And I have the slide-on lens hood with a screw fastener but sadly it doesn't combine with the step-up ring. I agree it is a marvel of a camera, great lens, great portability.

@SteveONions 3 года назад

I must get a step up ring too, I’ve a few native fit filters but having access to all the 52mm range makes a lot of sense.

@merlinmarquardt 3 года назад

Lovely day, lovely landscape, lovely images.

@billybeck 3 года назад

Stunning photographs,and a lovely video. Interesting and friendly as always. Love how the old lens is rendering landscapes. I’m always nervous of using my vintage glass for landscape. I think I’ve fallen into the trap of SHARPNESS IS EVERYTHING, and that’s only attainable with new/expensive glass.

@SteveONions 3 года назад

Thanks Matt. I don’t worry too much about sharpness in my photography and often prefer soft uncoated lenses. Infrared works better with a bit of flare or halation, sadly not so easy since Kodak HIE was discontinued.

@SidneyPratt 2 года назад

Thanks.

@SteveONions 2 года назад

You’re welcome Sidney.

@russellyoung2852 3 года назад

You find the most amazing locations! The Oly RC is a favourite of mine as well, in part because that 5-element lens is a superb performer. I had no idea how an IR film performed w/o an IR filter on the lens, very edifying, thank you. Can you use it with a #25 filter, even though that lets more visible light pass? Burned through a lot of the old Kodak High Speed Infrared HIE in the 70s and 80s. A shame they discontinued it in 2007. Gosh, though, it was grainy! Keep up the great image making and videos.

@SteveONions 3 года назад

Thanks Russell. I also loved HIE especially as it worked great with red filter and allowed easy handheld shooting. A #25 is OK with Rollei IR but little to no infrared effect sadly. Below EI 6 it looks like most other B&W films.

@Ali3n123 3 года назад

That RC and the ir film look like a great combo

@SteveONions 3 года назад

It worked very well Andrew, maybe EI 1600 next time.

@millwrightrick1 3 года назад

I have used Kodak infrared film on occasion and found it to be a pain to use but when it works, it works really well. Next up is 120 infrared film in my Yashicamat. BTW, the Kodak stuff seems to be a dust magnet when processing it in your darkroom.

@SteveONions 3 года назад

I miss Kodak HIE Richard 😢

@lensman5762 3 года назад

An unexpected bonus. Loved the photos.

@Mark-el8sb 3 года назад

Thanks Steve, and looking forward to seeing how you get on pushing IR film.

@oldfilmguy9413 3 года назад

Beautiful images and great to see the comparisons. I particularly liked the valley shot - on the video such lush greens, but then the infrared was so ethereal. Cheers!

@SteveONions 3 года назад

Thanks Robert. I was pleased with the way both Cameras rendered the harsh light and glad I took IR film.

@tonypower9315 3 года назад

Perfect timing, iam right in the middle of this very subject!

@SteveONions 3 года назад

Metering is always an interesting issue with infrared film. I have found that in bright sun 1 second at f/16 works well and I usually pick this setting. If it’s dull however I like to take a meter reading and this is one instance where I will use the incident meter. When in doubt is always overexposed as the film is capable of great results even massively overexposed (it just becomes more ethereal - nice!).

@exquofonte 3 года назад

Good stuff. Excited to see you try pushing the film to 1600 with the infrared affect

@stuartbaines2843 3 года назад

Not much IR in the sunrise of course but seems to have done quite well 👍

@julianheritage6436 3 года назад

Some great images Steve. I love the infrared monos and their ethereal look

@SteveONions 3 года назад

Thanks Julian.

@AndyP1961. 3 года назад

Excellent images, love the film shots, really special them

@SteveONions 3 года назад

Thanks Andy.

@JDubyafoto 3 года назад

I had a Sony A6300 converted to IR awhile back & love it! It's a great way to get the IR look. I also adapt my Leica M-Mount lenses to the Sony so I get excellent results.

@SteveONions 3 года назад

Nice outfit John 👍

@TwangThang57 3 года назад

Nice to see the RC getting another workout. Holding it out in front of you like that, the RC looks much larger than it's true diminutive size. You must be a fisherman.

@SteveONions 3 года назад

Haha, yes - it was a huge camera that got away 😀

@SD_Alias 3 года назад

Thank you! I did not know that the Rollei IR has such good IR sensitivity. Years ago i used the Efke IR 820 but unfortunately it is not manufactured anymore. So i will give the Rollei a try…

@SteveONions 3 года назад

The Efke was nice but had awful quality control. The Rollei needs a lot of exposure to give the a strong infrared effect.

@johnjon1823 3 года назад

Very nice video and information, thanks for your efforts! Those rocks and drop offs certainly require some care. Best wishes!

@SteveONions 3 года назад

Thanks John, the GoPro demands that I take some dramatic shots whenever possible 😀

@hachewie 3 года назад

Great video. Thanks Steve.

@ChrisRoutledge 3 года назад

You might enjoy a Sigma SD Quattro, which apart from being as slow as a film camera (in a good way), also has a user-removable IR filter which clips in and out easily. I think it might be the only digital camera that has IR capability designed in.

@SteveONions 3 года назад

Very tempting Chris.

@nelsonm.5044 3 года назад

The photo at 5:11, marvelous

@SteveONions 3 года назад

Thanks Nelson.

@westonharby165 3 года назад

Interesting that the film IR photos have less grain the digital images. The dynamic range of rollei IR 400 is impressive, I'll have to get a roll!

@SteveONions 3 года назад

It’s worth remembering that I did provide a fair bit of manipulation in Lightroom Weston, the digital originals are very clean and sharp (which I don’t like).

@kevinthephotographer9346 3 года назад

Nice results Steve. I have a 43.5mm - 52mm step-up ring for my RC35's to mount filters. I have tried using Rollei IR400 film once on an RC, in combination with a tripod and the B setting; the exposures were about 1s/f11 or 2s/f16. Unfortunately I think I lost the film so no results to show !

@SteveONions 3 года назад

Bad luck Kevin. I should get the right step up ring - I have a few native 43.5 filters but there will never be an r72 in that size.

@cdl0 3 года назад

I also always use the stile in these situations @4:32. Never trust the open gateway which may be a trap for the unwary set by the fairies. :-) The lens flare @5:18 looks like a good lucky accident to me. I like it!

@SteveONions 3 года назад

Glad it’s not just me, got to keep an eye out for bushwhackers!

@bkspicture 3 года назад

Lovely shots!!

@stanislavnepochatov8381 3 года назад

Great shots as always. So you added about eight stops for normal exposure in bright sunny day, am I correct? I have a couple rolls of Rollei IR 120. Want to shoot it on Moskva-5.

@SteveONions 3 года назад

I effectively rate the film around EI 6 Stanislav and like 1 sec at f/16 with an R72 filter in bright sunlight.

@gillesgrethenphotography 3 года назад

I love that image with the roundish flare although composition was slightly better with the canon (foreground). No need for a lens hood :-).

@SteveONions 3 года назад

It’s starting to grow on me too Gilles.

@davidpearce2981 3 года назад

Great images steve

@SteveONions 3 года назад

Thanks David.

@jkmoore1120 3 года назад

If only Kodak would make Aerochrome again.

@SteveONions 3 года назад

And HIE 😢

@thevalleywalker 3 года назад

Interesting comparisons and was looking at the 2 you posted on IG today... good to see them here on something bigger than a match box. Of those two I am surprised I went for the Oly image although your processing does gve them both a film look so I wouldn't have been able to tell..lol.Hearing you say that the Oly was shot wide open and when lookng at them on IG and even now I felt although the shadow and light was more prominent on the G15 the Oly had a definte feeling of depth that I enjoyed... the whole image was more subtle if that makes sense? Looked a hot day Steve but a great walk none the less. atb Al

@SteveONions 3 года назад

Cheers Alan. The digital camera is really excellent and quite easy to emulate that film look with. I prefer it to larger sensors for this reason. The Olympus was somewhat hampered by the f/2.8 setting and a tripod would of course help here but the old RC has only limited slow speeds.

@nigellee7892 3 года назад

Hi Steve - interesting stuff. Re the Rollei Infra Red film, I’ve shot it with both a ‘standard’ Red Filter (Hoya R25) and with Hoya’s more recently produced and more expensive R72 “dedicated” Infra Red filter but I can’t seem to see any actual difference in the final results - if each is exposed correctly. Using an R72 filter of course though means you need several more stops of exposure, so if I were planning to shoot handheld I’d personally be happy to shoot with a Red filter rather than the near black R72 filter.

@SteveONions 3 года назад

I find red quite disappointing Nigel, the R72 needs a lot more light and EI 6 is a good starting point.

@nigellee7892 3 года назад

Steve O'Nions Hiya Steve ... Compared with the famous and now discontinued Kodak HIE Infra Red film, and I’m sure you’ll agree with me, it’s the Rollei film that’s a little disappointing ! Don’t quote me on it but those R72 filters we’re really developed for use with modern (colour) digital sensors. When using the Red and R72 filters side by side with B & W film, and correctly exposing each accordingly, I can’t see any discernible difference in the final results on the film (they look identical). I’d love to be able to send you a strip of film (exposed with both filters), for you to scan and print and I don’t believe you could tell me which frames were shot with which filter. I may be wrong!

@JohnKrill 3 года назад

You said it was going to be very hot where you are. Meanwhile it is 104f at 11:20am in Palm Springs, Ca. Enough said. We have two seasons here that are concurrent. It will be 100f one day and over 110 the next. So there it is two seasons - one is 100f and the other is 110f an higher. This August we had 24 days that were 110f or greater.

@SteveONions 3 года назад

I can’t compete with that John, anything over 25 degrees is considered extreme in the UK! I remember how the temperature changed dramatically on a drive from San Francisco to Sequoia, 65f at the start and 105f a few hours later 🙂

@gregoryroscoe3818 2 года назад

Great video and super interesting comparison- Question; do you like the Rollei 400 IR enough as a bw film without IR to choose it over a conventional bw film like fp5? I did like what I saw in the unfiltered images.

@SteveONions 2 года назад

Good question Gregory. I do like the IR 400 for normal use and could easily get along with it in place of something like HP5+.

@MB-or8js 3 года назад

Love the Rollei IR 400 film. From my experience with this 35 mm film is that it needs to be used at ISO 100 for exposure (2 stops overexposure) to benefit from white foliage in the final negative. With f/5.6 and R72 filter, it took me in the sun about 1/8 sec for this overexposure and tripod was required. This is similar exposure what you used at f/2.8 with 1/30 sec. What kind of developer did you use for the Rollei film?

@SteveONions 3 года назад

Thanks Martin. I rate the film at an effective speed of EI 6 and love how it looks in Rodinal 1:50 for 12 mins.

@tomsawyer8802 3 года назад

Maybe a lith print of the photograph at 5:18 on Etsy? Great job as always! Thank you! P.S.: you did not explain yet, why did you choose a chromogenic BW negative for lith printing.

@SteveONions 3 года назад

Thanks for reminding me Tom, I do have a video half done that acts as an introduction to chromogenic B&W - it’s surprising how much there is to cover 🙂

@jnrickards 3 года назад

Question, why the ir filter on the Olympus when using ir film?

@SteveONions 3 года назад

An R72 is the best filter for this film Julian although I do have an R665 that would be worth trying.

@TrashTheLens 3 года назад

This is also my experience after playing a bit with cheap 720nm filter, RPX25 and Miltora 7s's internal light meter that going by lightmeter reading you end up overexposing. The meter was giving me 6 stops under 25 which is what, ISO 0.4, while it should be closer ISO 1. Steve, I know IR is always hit and miss, but as a starting point, at what ISO would rate you Rollei 400 IR going forward, in conditions like you had in this video?

@SteveONions 3 года назад

Thanks for the information, that mirrors what I’ve found. In terms of film speed I effectively rate the Rollei IR400 at EI 6, anything less and the effect drops off quite quickly. It can tolerate quite a bit of ever exposure and I usually make a second exposure at EI 3 and this can produce a mild halation effect in the highlights which is lovely.

@TrashTheLens 3 года назад

@@SteveONions Thanks!

@whitecurtis225 3 года назад

Will any of these be for sale ?

@SteveONions 3 года назад

Perhaps Curtis, not sure which one though.

@RichardReeve_K1W1 3 года назад

What Osprey pack do you use in these videos? I am looking to buy a pack in the 20-30 litre size range for a similar use to yours, Thanks.

@SteveONions 3 года назад

I have both the Talon 22 in blue and Talon 44 in black Richard. I was happy until I saw someone in front of me recently with the Talon 33 - it looked just right!

@RichardReeve_K1W1 3 года назад

@@SteveONions Thanks. Maybe I will be the next Taon 33 person for you to be unhappy with. :-)