Last Time a Truck OVERHEATED on This Hard Test: How Will an Electric F-150 Compare to a V8 Chevy? 

$73K is no bargain for any truck, they are all overpriced.

This is what I like to watch! torture test, forget all that 1/4-mile racing

This was a great compliment to the Ike Gauntlet tow tests. When I tow my Jeep to an off road spot, it typically consists of multiple kinds of drives within one. I would be interested to see this same test on a 1 ton diesel truck, just to compare. I actually really like that you guys are comparing different classes of trucks.

This is closer to the towing I do, I would love to see a few trucks ran up this with that same trailer / load. Run that ram2500 cummins and see how it does.

I think this hill is a good test of towing capabilities and should be tied in with the Ike Gauntlet.

We definitely need more tests on this hill. Most trucks seem to do the Ike pretty well but this hill is another animal, especially for N/A engines in hot weather

Ford has got to love all the data you’re gathering for them on how this truck behaves.

i have driven this road in a 1988 chevy conversion van, my engine, brakes, and transmission all got hot. we have come a long way... wow, great test!

I love this test!!! Keep up the great towing torture tests on this hill TFL!!! I enjoy this more than the Gauntlet. This type of towing environment is why I sold my F150 (which I loved) and bought a HD Ram 2500 Cummins. We towed our toy hauler (which was within the capacity of my F150) up into the mountains to go camping on very similar roads and my F150 transmission would overheat everytime and the truck struggled with power. It was a very stressful towing experience. The Cummins chews this stuff up and nothing gets warm or upset and I never lack power. When people say their half ton can handle their travel trailer or toy hauler just fine. They've probably never towed through roads or conditions like this. High ambient temps, low speeds, steep grades, and for several miles.

Call me old fashioned, but i prefer a column shift for a truck. Frees up interior space, and makes going from drive and reverse quick and easy.

I like this test for towing. I hope you'll start using it with all your tow test, in addition to the Ike. That ford is impressive. I understand all its limitations but it is a strong towing rig. Thanks for doing this Andre. I know it's a pain in the butt and nerve racking.

Woulda been interesting to see a 3.5EB doing the same as the Lighting, or even a 3.0L Diesel in the Chevy.

The transmission heating issues you find on these slower climbs are 100% caused by the torque converters not locking. Maybe more tests like this will motivate the manufacturers to address this weakness. There is a lot to digest in a test like this. Gas is lacking thrust, ev is lacking range. The rattle in that new Ford is a little disheartening for an 80k truck.

Good useful test for perspective buyers. More stuff like this please! As an aside, Ford had an issue with early Mach-Es where they were occasionally having powertrain problems on long downgrade drives because they had the regen programming wrong and it was overheating the system. All the more reason to run tests like this. 👍🏼

Sweet video nice work!! This hill (washboard portion) does a great job of exposing suspension and fit and finish. Would love to see in the future how all the trucks do (towing or non towing ) on this terrain to expose how well they are put together and how good the suspension is for daily driving (rough roads).

Absolutely great testing. Cant wait to see more trucks tested on this same hill. I have had transmission heat issues with a 2016 Sierra. Once the fluid got hot it would essentially get cooked and the shifts felt forever different until the fluid was replaced. iI now have a 21 Jeep SRT and it has been an amazing tow vehicle. Andre and the team should definitely test out a Durango SRT. With its great cooling, long wheelbase and 8700 pound towing capacity i think it will impress.

As always great video, I really enjoy all of TFL channels & especially this week because I'm home from work & down with my back so all u am doing is laying around & watching TFL. 👍🏻👍🏻

This type of test is great, would you try a 3/4 ton diesel to show how much different they would handle this test?

I had a similar experience on a shorter climb on Skyline Drive with a Durango RT V8 towing a 7,000 lb trailer - almost fried the transmission oil !

Very very nice test I’d really like to see more videos like this. I think that this is a more realistic real world test for these trucks. Especially for guys who do construction work and a lot of work in harsh areas like what we do here in Detroit.

Andre, love ya dude, but stop saying $73k is a deal. You have said this in several videos. Yeah, it's a 'deal' compared to others, but don't play into their game that the prices of new trucks are in anyway a DEAL. Would like to see this test with the 3l Duramax.

These videos are awesome, fun as heck to watch, thanks!

Super cool video!! Great information! Thank you.

Great video TFL. This new slow route is the perfect counterpart for the IKE. More of this!

Great video! Please do the same climb with the 3.0 Duramax!

Great test. I'm especially glad you started with much less than a full charge on the Lightning to stress the battery cooling system. Most people may not know that li-ion cells charge up to 4.2v (or less depending on what the mfr calls 100%), and are only used down to about 3v. As voltage decreases for the same power output, the amperage has to increase to maintain the same power P = I (current) * E (voltage). Amperage (current) is what creates heat, both when discharging the batteries going up hill, and then charging them going down hill. I would say the Lightning passed the battery cooling test with flying colors. Well done Ford.

My 22 was 39k with a 2.7 here in Austin and is all I need..blackout, safety confidence, power seat, full steering controls. She runs. Thank you GM!

Awesome video That’s why I never miss any you guys channels good job

Loved the drone footage, editing, content. Thank you guys.

Another vote to see the 3.0 Duramax on that same test. Great content, keep up the good work!

I was towing 6,600 with my Ridgeline went up some pretty steep hills 25-35 mph in town and 55-65 highway speeds at 95+ degrees. I went about 250 miles it did struggle but never overheated. I did not have Elevation like this or the roads like this test, great video.

I love these comparisons keep them up!

I love these torture tests pushing vehicles to their limits!!

Great test thanks for doing this. Impressive that an Everready could even complete this! 8000 feet is a significant climb under load. Range is still an issue.

Very interesting and useful test. Thanks

I've towed many roads like this. Great test!

I suggest you do a V8 F-150 vs the Lightning. F-150 2 ways. Which is better.

Good test! The old tundra has a separate oil cooler, but the new one doesent. Try an old vs new tundra in this hill! It will show if separated oil transmission coolers make the difference!

Real good video. Thanks

The electric vehicles definitely excel in certain areas. They’re not ready for prime time for everyone yet but they have nice features

Andrey, you were getting 12 miles/kwh on the downhill leg. That's 22 times your uphill rate! I like the lower stress the Lightning provides the driver on this torture test. Well done Ford. Thanks for a great video TFL!

I'm very interested in seeing the baby duramax tackle this challenge can you try to get chevy/gmc baby duramax and do this test?

The transmission got hot because gm though it was a good idea to put a 180 degree thermostat on their transmissions that shuts off the trans cooler. First thing I did to my 2016 Silverado was install a trans thermostat delete kit. I haul with my truck alot and my trans temp stays around 145 in the summer

Previous overheat was likely a combination of the travel speed and possibly a tailwind. In my Kenworth, a tailwind causes my engine fan to cycle more often, even under light load. All of my oil temps start the red zone at 250°F, and if you see those levels, you usually have serious issues at work. At those temps, you’re getting oil breakdown, especially in an oil that thin.

Would be interesting to graph the various temp sensors to a GPS trail on a map. Would be very interesting to do this on two runs. Automatic, let the computer change gears and manually changing gears. Graph those on the GPS trail too. Like all trucks when pulling heavy loads shifting constantly kills them fast.

High temps in the 1/2 ton, 10 speed (edited gasser) trans is “on point” why the HD (gasser)still has only the six speed trans. Good vid.

Excellent test, having the Same Driver is so much better, plus Andre' is always great !!

Your power limiting was likely due to SOC being so low as opposed to any temperature issue on the Lightning. Great test, very interesting :)

Transmission temp goes high at slow speed especially when your torque converter is not locked. That slippage adds heat and going slow with high load is brutal. Good test. This is the stuff that matters.

I would love to see all the half ton trucks complete this also with the Ike. This is a bit more realistic to a lot of normal people towing half tons. I drove a 2004 super duty and I know I wouldn’t want to pull a camper/heavy dump trailer/other things roughly 7k-12k lbs up that with a smaller truck then my f250. This is the perfect test for guys wanting to know if a half ton can do what most guys with half tons would want.

I sure like your videos. Very realistic and not sugar-coated.

I tow daily with a 2020 F250 4x4 6.2L 6 speed xl and I'm fairly convinced it would do just as well if not better than the Chevy. I don't deal with as much grade but more weight, coming in closer to 10k and sometimes upwards of 14k, and an inclosed trailer adding more drag. I think it would be great to see the gas 6.6 go up against the 7.3 or even 6.2 on this test.

The Jeep Grand Cherokee had that shifter in the 2014 model and it was such a disaster they ended up changing it after a year or two. Another Great video btw!!!

I like this test better than the Ike and I say it every time you all do this test that this is a much tougher test on the trucks than the Ike. The slow speeds and excessive transmission shifting is what makes it tough. It’s definitely extreme. As for the two trucks, well neither are truly ideal for this type of usage. The Silverado is better suited to it but day in and day out of this would require an HD. The Lightning and just EVs in general are not ready for usage like this. You probably couldn’t even do this test with it if you had to tow the trailer from your office to this location and regardless of what EV fans think or say that is a huge deal breaker for traditional truck usage.

Cool testing 😎!

What was the time it took each truck to reach the top. And would love to see sound level readings

You should test all the trucks on this hill! Love it!

27:29 Reminds me of the ZF shifter that was used in the FCA vehicles starting in 2012 with v6 engines.

This test is much more applicable to me where I live. Western NC Appalachian mountains are slow twisting steep +10%. I've been behind many vehicles going 5 mph for 5 miles with no passing zones. You do the math!

I think this is a better torture test than Ike gauntlet for the uphill. I’d like to see more of this as part of the truck of the year testing.

Good test. I like this route. I wish the 3.0 was there. Also I hope you do the 2.7 colorado loaded down

Awesome video and great comparison. I agree this could be the new Ike gauntlet. Could we get a video of you all's new Cummins doing this test and also Andres truck or a hybrid similar to it?

I don't know if I missed it (very possible) but I would like a reference to the rear axle ratio used and other axle ratios available ( for perspective ) mated to the engine.

How about including the Rivian R1S (or R1T) in such a towing test! Towing capacity 7700 lbs. Then the Cybertruck and especially the RAM Revolution EV truck with Range Extender Paradigm Breaker!

Please can you take a video of the tyre tread please. How many miles have you done now?

Do more videos like this !!! It was fun to watch

I would like to see you guy's do this test with all trucks you review. Great Video

Is there an oil cooler for the transmission? That’s usually a mandatory item on a towing rig.

Tow/haul mode not turned on in the Chevy? Definitely helps the transmission stay cool... great video I liked it, thanks!

Relaxing if you're only going within 50 miles from home.

i would love to see you do test with low truck like f150 vs f lightning vs 1500 vs dodge 1500 torque test up hills and down hills no range test just to see which one failure make it first (know chevy will failures first) keep up with awesome jobs man just love watching this

🤔 I wonder which truck you used to tow the trailer from your office to the base of the hill.

Great video and grueling test. The Silverado may have been learning the fuel tables with the altitude and load conditions. When it went into reduced power mode. The electric is impressive, I'm still not sold on the range and charging scenario.

I've pulled almost 3x that weight in a truck from the 1970s.. an f250 with a 4 speed & a 390 built for torque, back in the 70s. You could peg the thermometer & she'd start to backfire, but she'd never give out. Some tense moments were had going up the sides of a mountains in first gear low range wide open throttle!

Wish you guys did this test with the tundra you guys had. My dad just bought a new Silverado with the 6.2. He likes it so far

After the test. What truck can you drive home in from the office, or to another location without waiting all day too charge? Did you have to walk home?

Andre trying to convince us and maybe himself that 73K is a bargain was funny

Should do a gas vs diesel test. Half tons and 3/4 tons. Appreciate the reviews!

Great test, we need more of theses. Surprised the ford only regenerated 8% coming down that long of grade. Makes you think how much it regens in everyday driving.

Thanks Fast Lane Truck. Can you get a Ram, Tundra and a gas F150 for this test as well?

Best video so far with the lightning

I'm incredibly impressed with the Ford. Once they figure out how to triple battery capacity it'll be a done deal. Still, it's already perfect for a mostly suburban to urban family. You can haul kids, groceries and the occasional couch. Wish I could afford one.

Once you do the 3/4 test on this road, compare it to the Lightning....would be interesting to see!

I've towed my 7600lbs trailer up grades like that with a Trailboss 8 speed and 5.3L and never saw Temps like that. Me thinks the 10speeds ULV fluid isn't really up to the task, these trucks do have large external coolers too.

Excellent Review! Well done! I still like the gas version because there are no charging stations in my mountains yet.

Like this testing a lot more. I would recommend using low gears going up. Such as 2nd or 3rd maybe. Me personally would stay in 2nd and let it work

Man, once they figure out better batteries and charging, electric trucks are going to be pretty damn awesome towing machines!

can you do this same test with the 3.5 ecoboost & the 7.3 godzilla i'm trying to decided between them

Here in Alaska we have some very very good torture test roads, hills and dirt road highways that make great testing sights for any protocols.

Sick video ❤

How would anyone think 73,000 is a bargain for a truck?

This torture test should be the standard to compare them all. The Ike isn’t challenging enough anymore.

Nice test. Did you start with a full battery in the Lightning?

I’d like to see the test done with the Silverado 3.0l duramax I personally own one and it does pretty good hauling the heavy stuff

What I heard was the ford Lighting isn’t worth the money.

Great video. I learned how powerful the Lightning was watching your “gauntlet” video and another from out-of-spec. The EV is so dominant in both speed and strength doing local jobs! Effortless power. Kyle actually showed how carrying maximum payload was super easy, it’s aerodynamics and battery capacity that is the truck’s Achilles Heel. I know you get so tired of viewers wanting to see over and over how bad range becomes when towing. I appreciate you showing us the variety of things it can do when range is not an issue.

As some others have suggested you should possibly try using low range to see how it compares.

Interesting test,

I was wondering if the F-150 would have enough range to make it up there. Once there, going done didn't seem to be a concern. Now I have to ask if the predicted range before it went up was more or less than it reached the bottom. And did the Lightning make it to a recharging station?

Are we not gonna talk about the Silverado electronics flipping out and giving forward collision system errors? Something inside that truck was not happy.