Thank you for your insight. Do you know possible theoretical reasons why they would have a hammer instead of being striker fired? Just tryin' to learn.
@@johnrambo5436 The bore is very, very low, so there is no place for a long striker pin in the back of the slide. It has a hammer upside down for this same reason. That thing is a beautiful piece of design and engineering.
Considering it's basically a handmade precision all metal competition pistol, from a very small manufacturer, with all the extras, and then some, that's the going price. Price an STI, with three mags, basically an optics slide, and an iron sight slide.....and a custom machined aluminum competition holster. It's gonna be 5K, or more. Welcome to reality.
@@283blood Mmmmm yeah, Ray explained that in the video. I've heard that sarcasm doesn't register (with some people) thru type. Thank you for reminding me. 👍😇✌
This is part of a limited introductory run of 500. Numbered and signed by the designer. The “production” version with out all of the Extras is rumored to be under $3000. It’s expected later this year. Still expensive, but not crazy for a high end race gun.
Not really. This seems to use "Rapid fire" ISSF competition pistols as an inspiration. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YvCfVkKZiO0.html
Been waiting for a review from a trusted person for a while! Thanks for sharing. I'll never be able to afford one, but I'm impressed with the engineering!
Great Review!!! The build quality is amazing as is the hammer mechanism! I love the TiN coating of the gas/recoil system and the polished barrel. She’s definitely a keeping in my collection!
Probably your most requested video ever right ? I have loved this pistol from the day I laid eyes on it in a video showing how flat it shoots! One day when they are easier to come by I will own one. Thanks for the video Ray!
Always highly informative, detailed, and thorough reviews. Of the best firearms in the world. Thank you for your laser focus and attention to detail. It is greatly appreciated by many. Stay safe, Cheers
Beautiful firearm. TGC showed in at SHOT and raved. I expect most would rave. I also expect most cannot justify the cost. If we cannot have it, at least we can see it. Thanks for sharing Ray.
I have one , and just 25person who have this limited edition gun in indonesia ! I proud i have it
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I have a friend who has owned the Alien for a while and the only real downside I remember him talking about in the review video we made was that the gas system fouls the handgun until it fails fairly quickly. Which has been an issue for my friend during IPSC matches.
Great to know! Thanks for the feedback. I heard that shooting lead bullets could cause this issue. I was told that switching to fmj would stop that from happening
3 года назад
@@XRING afaik my friend has never shot lead bullets through his Alien. But do some testing and see if this gun has the same issue. I have a sample size of one = anecdote and not worth more than that 😉
@@XRING I've heard the same and it should also be mentioned in the manual. The gas piston system like on the P7 can't handle obstruction. With the right ammo they should by very reliable. I hope there'll be more iterations of the design. I wonder if there is a way to dissipate heat quicker.
Yeah, Jan himself has said FMJ only. I haven't shot more than 150rds at a time, so I don't know what the limit is. But even after 150 is was still cycling smooth, so I think it could go much further before cleaning. I have only used factory ammo so far, with a mix of 115,124, and 147 all working fine.
Awesome, just awesome pistol. If only I could afford one. I just ordered one of those Shadow Systems MR920 Elites I found in stock, looking forward in getting it out to the range
Great review!! Loved your enthusiasm. Picking my Alien up tomorrow from my FFL and CANNOT wait! Glad to see so many are enjoying theirs and the feedback has been pretty consistent.
😲 WOW I couldn't stop drooling ... that is one BADASS Pistol 😉 thanks for sharing this Ray this is probably one of your best reviews you've done in awhile👍👊🇺🇸
I got mine saturday. It is a beautiful firearm.. Have never spent remotely close to that on a firearm before. But first truly novel action in quite some time. The trigger is crisp as a stale pretzel.
Thank You Sir! Those features are great. It is an amazing design. 👍🇺🇸 #22aday I think Matt could also meet the challenge with a couple extra practice magazines!
This is sort of a blow back design. Very nice holster and the two slides are bad ass. Imagine the tolerances to change slide uppers to other guns. The Heizer PKO 45acp missed the big opportunity, a narrow 45acp is a pain to shoot. But the Heizer PKO design if in 40cal with a simular barrel under bushing in a race gun would be a real performer.
im actually missing your doughter a bit. she was so excited to go on her first match and did so well. i hope she's okay and keeps practising. greeting from germany.
Got to shoot one , I shoot CO and I had to keep lowering my barrel to get the dot to come into view, shoot a shadow 2 normally and the dot defiantly comes up higher from the draw but yes once you find the dot flattest shooting gun I have ever shot. Wish I could afford one. Great review
I doubt this would be Carry Optics legal anyway. No frame ride optics, I doubt they would consider this slide mounted given it’s non-reciprocating. Also, the firing mechanism is really an inverted hammer which would make this a single action, also no CO legal. Really seems like a gun that needs to compete in Limited/Open.
A very intriguing handgun. Looks like you were having a blast trying it out. I wonder what the regular production models will cost. Wonder if the trigger will be the same, etc. If they can get the price downto around $2k or $3k it'll be wildly successful I'd think.
I think they can easily get the price down once R&D and setting up manufacturing lines are out of the picture. Mechanically it looks pretty simple to machine out.
The Eastern European gun industry is killing it. Sadly, another industry we used to lead the world in that is falling by the wayside. CZ is buying Colt, that's it in a nutshell. A shame the big label companies here can`t innovate like this.
I agree. Remington couldn't make their stuff cheap enough to be attractive to people looking at semi-custom/boutique gear. Some/enough American shooters have been willing to pay for a little better gear than you can get from the factories. And, to your point, the European hardware is great. American companies, especially the ones that have been bought out by investment conglomerates, have lost the desire to make a good firearm. Their only desire is to make money. Great for investors on the short term, but if you're actually a consumer, it sucks. I've never known what Colt's problem is. Price? Labor? Small production/high cost? I don't really follow them. And I have no idea how Savage stays in business - their stuff is so boring and cheap-ish (I have 2 of them.) They must have good management.
@@robertthurman3743 Colt's problem was you live by the 1911 and M16, you die by them. Lack of innovation, and not seeing where the future was going killed them. Then, like Remington, investors drained them for the money. Savage may not be exciting to look at, but they are stupid accurate out of the box. Savage spends their money on barrel to action fitment time and engineering, and triggers, because that's what counts. I'll take ugly accurate over pretty any day. I've got an older $298 110 in .223 that shoots 3/4 minute of angle all day, as well as others just as good. Butt ugly, flexy, cheap black plastic stock, but you can always replace that if you want. That's how they've done so well. People in America bad talked Eastern European gun manufacturers for years, not realizing many of them had been in the gun industry since before the US was a country. Many of them innovated methods, and mechanisms we take for granted today. CZ in particular, has always produced really well made, and often innovative firearms. Smart shooters knew what a CZ 75 was well before the wonder nine craze started in this country. I hope they can turn Colt around as a brand name, even if it will never really be the same again. I'm fortunate in having bought alot of early colt revolvers over the years, and 1911's, both for the shooting experience, and now, it ain't hurting my pocketbook either, if I decided to sell them. As a country, we have priced are self out of the market of many manufactured goods. It's not that US manufacturers don't know how to make quality goods, we just can't price them competitively for Joe working guy, and that's been are downfall.
In Austria it costs 3.949 Euro (4808 USD). One of my shooting comrades had one, he gave it back, to much malfunctions, maybe it was one of the earlier production models. Like your channel! Greetings from Austria.
Ray, I was hoping you'd get your hands on the Laugo Alien! I'd love to see more testing and videos on the Alien. Would you choose an Alien over the 2011 platform (Akai or Atlas)? How is the height over bore?
This is part of a limited run of 500 guns. Signed and numbered. They will likely be worth more than people paid for them in a few years. The “production” version without all the extras is going to be less expensive.
If they're smart they won't try to keep only the ultra high end model and will put the knowledge they've gained into producing something more accessible too. Otherwise another manufacturer will do it.
@@jdg9999 i am fairly sure that's what they are doing. the first run is a limited 500 and its done over the top if a part is even the slightest bit out of spec its thrown in the recycle bin more or less the Rolex of guns. i heard the non limited competition spec guns will be around $3000 with how simple that gun is a Duty spec gun could be made fairly cheep they may outsource the Duty one to another company while they focuses on the competition ones. it would be easier to let some one that already has the ability to mass manufacture ( not Kel-Tec or High Point) make them.
$5K is kind of a killer for me. I have $1500 fishing rod/reel combos ( 8 ), but I don’t see myself spending that kind of money for it to just sit in my safe.
Thanks for this video but, can i ask you one ? I wonder the barrel can cooked off how many times you shoot that gun. Because I thought that gun will be cook off and will it be hot to hold.
Congrats guys! If I didn’t live in Commiefornia I would’ve bought one. And I guess it would’ve helped if I was 21. I wonder if there’s any cops who bought and want to sell lol. Do any of you have children in Cali?
I’m curious if the trigger quality is consistent between guns. I watched another review where the guy in the video basically said the trigger was trash. Most of the people that talked about the Alien after SHOT only talked about the bore axis/recoil and not much else.
@@drsullivan Thanks for the input. It sounds like we saw the same video. I trust XRING’s word on the gun, and it’s good to see someone else back it up. I don’t see an Alien in my near future, but if something crazy happens, and I find a way to justify the money, it would be worth a look it sounds like.
I was thinking of buying this thing about a year and a half ago. I couldn't wait for it to get stateside.... until I heard about the price.....I'm out.... 😬
Thank you and thanks for watching. Since this video, I have a few friends that bought this pistol and really love it. It is a great pistol with a great trigger and shoots really flat. I think you could do really well with it but not sure it it would be my first choice over a good double stack 1911. Thanks again for the comment.
From what I've read before it's not striker fired but instead is hammer fired with the hammer swinging down from the upper. Damn strange pistol, I wish I had one.
Ray I gave a thumbs up because I enjoy your videos not necessarily because of the pistol it looks like something predator would have carried , nice way to burn $200.00 worth of ammunition though
