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LDS Woman Pushes Back on Trans Handbook Updates During Testimony Meeting 

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An LDS woman got up to bear her testimony during fast and testimony meeting recently and felt she had to address the updates to the LDS General Handbook regarding transgender members. After the meeting she received hugs and only good feedback. These handbook updates are not being accepted by many active members who understand the harm that's occurring.
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@jasonford7481
@jasonford7481 11 дней назад
She did it in a way that they didn't cut her mic off. Amazing job. She handled it like a pro.
@BrianTerrill
@BrianTerrill 11 дней назад
@@jasonford7481 they should have, shoving your leftist agenda onto faithful church members is evil
@Andy-wo9bm
@Andy-wo9bm 10 дней назад
They should have, this is not appropriate for testimony meeting. Grievances belong in a different meeting.
@birdlyword2
@birdlyword2 10 дней назад
@@Andy-wo9bm which different meeting is that?
@Andy-wo9bm
@Andy-wo9bm 10 дней назад
@@birdlyword2 a meeting you request with your local leaders, then go from there. It is disingenuous and inappropriate to highjack a testimony meeting to air grievances.
@jasonford7481
@jasonford7481 10 дней назад
@@Andy-wo9bm Oh GOD give me a break dude. People get up in testimony meeting and spout all sorts of crazy shit. And you want to complain about a woman who is hopeful that people can follow the example of Christ and love one another? You sir are a Mormon hypocrite.
@LifeAfterBelief
@LifeAfterBelief 10 дней назад
I wish I had her integrity and bravery when I was a member. Well done! It was done in such a loving and honest way.
@ExmoRaymo
@ExmoRaymo 11 дней назад
Brave, powerful, honest. Thanks for posting. This is how the 13th article of faith is manifested.
@jeeperp3926
@jeeperp3926 11 дней назад
This is NOT a testimony, it’s a speech. A disgusting use of the meeting’s purpose for self-serving interests.
@marcyarrowchis678
@marcyarrowchis678 11 дней назад
@@jeeperp3926💯🎯
@Cody-ns4vo
@Cody-ns4vo 11 дней назад
@@jeeperp3926 this is a testimony speech. its disgusting that you think like this.
@kelleyturner6584
@kelleyturner6584 11 дней назад
​@@jeeperp3926So it's ok to have a "speaker" talk politics over the pulpit, but a person can't give a testimony, that helps those who are going to be treated badly?
@pv3627
@pv3627 11 дней назад
@@jeeperp3926 100% a testimony
@jadephoenixmama
@jadephoenixmama 11 дней назад
I love the good people standing up for what's right in the face of powerful opposition.
@BrianTerrill
@BrianTerrill 11 дней назад
This wasn't right.
@kelleyturner6584
@kelleyturner6584 11 дней назад
z​@@BrianTerrillIt was perfect!
@marcyarrowchis678
@marcyarrowchis678 11 дней назад
@@BrianTerrill💯🎯
@tylerhall95
@tylerhall95 11 дней назад
Yes! When I read the scriptures my heart just screams, "damnit if you want to cut your penis off and head into the ladies bathroom that's exactly what God would want for you."
@TotalySane4111
@TotalySane4111 10 дней назад
​@@BrianTerrillyou are not right. Only GOD!
@maxjenkins7139
@maxjenkins7139 11 дней назад
Go sister go!!Go!!! You made your grandpa proud.
@BrianTerrill
@BrianTerrill 11 дней назад
@@maxjenkins7139 it was even prophecied by Brigham Young that blacks would get the priesthood some day. When was the question. There is not a single prophecy that God is going to change his mind about homosexuality and transgenderism being an abomination
@firecloud77
@firecloud77 10 дней назад
Her grandpa is shaking his head, saying, "Look, sweetie, race and psychological disorders are not analogous."
@TotalySane4111
@TotalySane4111 10 дней назад
​@@firecloud77it is not us to judge, only GOD. We are taught the first commandment to Love GOD and 2nd most highest commandment to Love our neighbors as ourselves. You have disobeyed the second commandment as has the leaders of the Church who are only men not of GOD and not a prophet of GOD.
@firecloud77
@firecloud77 10 дней назад
@@TotalySane4111 Pandering to someone's psychological disorder is the opposite of love. I'm sorry you don't understand something so fundamental.
@TotalySane4111
@TotalySane4111 10 дней назад
@@firecloud77 no, you don't understand the psychological disorder that becomes. Are you a psychologist? Have you been around anyone who has psychological symptoms or problems? No, because they are hard to see let alone be able to evaluate. And no, I'm not a phsycologist by degree, but I have seen many friends because if the church die. And to disregard another's right of accounts is ignorant and lack of facing reality. Hide under your rock.
@austinhodges1031
@austinhodges1031 9 дней назад
This testimony absolutely saved someone's life. There was a sister in my ward growing up who had a similar testimony who definitely saved mine.
@jeff-fah-fah
@jeff-fah-fah 11 дней назад
It is lovely and brave that she spoke out. It is degrading and asinine that anyone should have to clear the bathroom of occupants and stand guard while someone relieves themselves.
@BrianTerrill
@BrianTerrill 11 дней назад
Well, people should use the right bathroom
@marcyarrowchis678
@marcyarrowchis678 11 дней назад
Soooo someone dealing with a menstrual cycle issue emergency OR a mother with a child having to urgently go to the bathroom…..will have to wait in the hall for this pretendian to satisfy their “feelings”! I am so tired of REAL women being replaced by men 😈
@BrianTerrill
@BrianTerrill 11 дней назад
@@jeff-fah-fah if a guy transitions to a girl but still has his part he can still pee with it he/she should use the men's rr with the urinal and save lots and lots on water conservation and protect the environment, I guess those things don't matter to liberals unless they are trying to kill jobs that require manual labor, my bad
@ruthdorius2831
@ruthdorius2831 11 дней назад
Evidently you must not have a daughter or sister or female relative or friend who has had to have a male in the women's locker room or bathroom. In the world today there are many wolves in sheep's clothing as has been shown.
@OmahaAreaLoya
@OmahaAreaLoya 11 дней назад
It is degrading and asinine that anyone should have to worry that some adult man might be LARPing as a woman in the girls bathroom while your young daughter is in there.
@waynemacfarlane5085
@waynemacfarlane5085 11 дней назад
Hero's come in many shapes and sizes
@ginac7235
@ginac7235 11 дней назад
Beautiful! I believe she didn’t mean it this way when she spoke about “smelling sins/not smelling sins,” but to emphasize: Being transgender is not a sin. Transitioning and living a happy authentic life is not a sin. 🏳️‍⚧️💖
@justinetownsend6815
@justinetownsend6815 10 дней назад
I think she meant discriminatory people are lucky you can't smell their sins
@woodystube1000
@woodystube1000 11 дней назад
This brave woman is just one Gospel Topics Essay away from disillusionment. I have more respect for her than any Bishop or Stake President.
@mbblegb
@mbblegb 11 дней назад
I'm curious if one of bishopric had their hand hovering over the microphone switch.
@MrRaythMandblues
@MrRaythMandblues 11 дней назад
I know. Silent kudos to them for letting her speak her piece. If she is comfortable enough to do this, I would bet that her ward is somewhat progressive. No doubt she got hugs after church.
@kaijusushi8165
@kaijusushi8165 11 дней назад
I can see it now, his hand quivering back and forth over the "off switch" as he's trying to decide whether the best way to handle the situation is to silence her publicly, or to just call her in to his office after church and reprimand her in private. Also, I did notice that her testimony was being recorded by someone who was seated on the stand, which may indicate that she's the wife of a ward or stake leader.
@kelleyturner6584
@kelleyturner6584 11 дней назад
​@@MrRaythMandbluesI wish all Wards were like hers!
@timrathbone7093
@timrathbone7093 11 дней назад
Wow one brave lady bravo!
@nickdipaolofan5948
@nickdipaolofan5948 9 дней назад
how is it brave?
@timrathbone7093
@timrathbone7093 9 дней назад
@@nickdipaolofan5948 any time anyone opposed the patriarchal structure is brave.
@nickdipaolofan5948
@nickdipaolofan5948 7 дней назад
@@timrathbone7093 not really. Real bravery would be to go to a pro LGBT group and attempt to quote the bible regarding what is sin. Somehow I suspect that group would be much less gracious. In fact, I would be surprised if that person left the group without being physically assaulted.
@chumark54
@chumark54 11 дней назад
THIS IS COURAGE. THIS IS LOVE. THIS IS CHRIST'S EXAMPLE. She might or might not be smoking, but in my eyes she's significantly GREATER than many members and general authorities.
@BrianTerrill
@BrianTerrill 11 дней назад
@chumark54 it's actually the opposite of what Christ taught, what she did was Satanic
@OmahaAreaLoya
@OmahaAreaLoya 11 дней назад
@chumark54: I’m guessing that you’re the type of parent who hands their child a second pair of scissors and encourages them to run even faster with them.
@chumark54
@chumark54 11 дней назад
@@OmahaAreaLoya And I'm guessing you're the type of parents who tell your kids "Black people shouldn't be bishops."
@OmahaAreaLoya
@OmahaAreaLoya 11 дней назад
@@chumark54 Not at all. I’m the type that tells my kids Brigham young was a racist and a liar, and that there was no legitimate reason to prohibit blacks from holding the priesthood.
@chumark54
@chumark54 11 дней назад
@@OmahaAreaLoya Hey, nice. We're on the same page, at least on this one.
@DaveSommers11
@DaveSommers11 10 дней назад
BACKGROUND CHECKS DAMNIT!!! For Everyone working with children and bishoprics
@kelleyturner6584
@kelleyturner6584 8 дней назад
The scout master in my ward in California, was raping the scouts and wasn't arrested until the family moved to Utah, but he only spent a short time behind bars. He then became a Trump campaign manager for his 2016 bid and spoke of how awful the LGBTQ was on the steps of the Capitol and he was the one hurting children!
@apropos4701
@apropos4701 19 часов назад
Ever see articles on SA and child predation and adultery and harassment in the churches? It is not people on some spectrum or in some transition that fill the list of perps. It is the entitled and adulated males of respectable appearance and income that are conning the flock. People like that lifetime swindler and sexual predator, Joseph Smith.
@DrMidwife06911
@DrMidwife06911 11 дней назад
Amen sister !!!!
@helenvick522
@helenvick522 11 дней назад
Thank you for posting this. Thank you to the awesome women who was honest and brave enough to say things that are in many others hearts, I am sure.
@OmahaAreaLoya
@OmahaAreaLoya 11 дней назад
I applaud those who are honest and brave enough to speak truth in the face of Satan’s attack on God’s eternal plan. Satan is waging war on all things good and holy, and he’s using naive Christians to wage this war under the guise of love and acceptance.
@kelleyturner6584
@kelleyturner6584 11 дней назад
​@@OmahaAreaLoyaTRUMP is Satan's spon!
@marcyarrowchis678
@marcyarrowchis678 11 дней назад
@@OmahaAreaLoya💯🎯
@Falseclartity
@Falseclartity 11 дней назад
@@OmahaAreaLoyado you think your hate is part of gods eternal plan brother? Please know that God. Does. Love. You… and all of us. No one deserves to to be pushed away from God, No matter how much Satan fights to accomplish that!
@lancemanmania
@lancemanmania 9 дней назад
That was amazing! Thank you for standing up!
@goodshepard00
@goodshepard00 11 дней назад
My heart is so touched by this lady's courage. She was very diplomatic, and she did not directly criticize the LDS Church leadership's decision to create the ugly and misleading policy. She did not directly criticize the LDS Church leaders. Although the bishop did not censor her by turning off her microphone, I wonder what the negative consequences will be for her. Will she be warned by the bishop about speaking of the policy against trans individuals in future meetings? Will the bishop turn her away from the podium in future meetings? Will the bishop put his finger over the mute button, ready to push if she tries to speak in future meetings? The policy perpetuates the falsehood that trans or gay individuals are more likely to be sexual abuse predators than cis gender individuals. The ugly policy implies that the church is trying to protect women and children from sexual abuse predators. HOWEVER, the LDS Church has the policy of having local church leaders who know of child abuse call the LDS Church's Utah law firm rather police or child protective services. The LDS Church leadership's greatest concern is for the organization's liability and the well-being of "repentent" abusers. Quite frankly, I see and smell rotten fruit
@BrianTerrill
@BrianTerrill 11 дней назад
@@goodshepard00 she still was following Satan when she did it. Satan teaches his best how to be smooth talkers
@proffernot5485
@proffernot5485 11 дней назад
Is this what the "Spirit" whispered to you?
@pv3627
@pv3627 11 дней назад
@@BrianTerrill “love one another” - Satan. Oh wait….
@BrianTerrill
@BrianTerrill 11 дней назад
@pv3627 Woke liberals don't love anyone but Satan, and stop deleting my comments
@BrianTerrill
@BrianTerrill 11 дней назад
Woke liberals don't love anyone but Satan, and stop deleting my comments. It's always fun how the left falsely promotes tolerance but is quick to delete others' comments they don't like. Is it REBECCO BIBLIOTECO doing that?.
@tiadavenport5465
@tiadavenport5465 7 дней назад
If the LDS indeed organized their minds, the church would be revolutionized. Don't fall for this crap, gals. You're smarter and perfect the way you are.
@99blackbirds
@99blackbirds 9 дней назад
This is SOOO AWESOME!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHH Lets make the LDS leaders BEND!!!
@thelastgoonie6555
@thelastgoonie6555 10 дней назад
Not a lot of "Amens" there...maybe the video cut out a little early. Brave lady--thank you for sharing this clip!
@AdamTheJensen
@AdamTheJensen 11 дней назад
There's a fair use disclaimer in the description, but I can't imagine this surviving a copyright strike. I don't see any commentary, parody, or criticism of any kind. It's just the video reposted in its entirety with no obvious transformation.
@woolhatkatie
@woolhatkatie 11 дней назад
My guess is that disclaimer is on every video on this channel, because that's what most of their videos are. Based on this video seeming to be recorded by the person who spoke, I'm guessing they sent it to mormonish to post.
@AdamTheJensen
@AdamTheJensen 11 дней назад
@@woolhatkatie I hope you're right. With the Kapwing logo, I worry though.
@tawnyachristensen7310
@tawnyachristensen7310 11 дней назад
This is wonderful!
@12345gerrard
@12345gerrard 11 дней назад
All I can say is wow! Good girl!
@MarleneAug2010
@MarleneAug2010 11 дней назад
She is a brave woman. 👏
@tylerhall95
@tylerhall95 11 дней назад
Yeah exactly what Jesus taught. "Whatsoever thou shalt feel in thy heart is right. For wide is the gate and broad is the way that leadeth unto social justice."
@pv3627
@pv3627 11 дней назад
“Love one another”
@tylerhall95
@tylerhall95 10 дней назад
@@pv3627 do you understand what prooftexting is? Jesus also said "I came not to give peace, but a sword." What other isolated quotes should we look for. You'll find less compassionate ones than you're hoping to find - more demanding and disagreeable. Even when saying "Love one another" he was speaking to a closed group of people. A small group. Telling them to love eachother as he has loved them so people would recognize them as his disciples. He loved them by being hard on them for that matter - and he was very hard on them. He didn't say "love everyone." It's not that I don't think Jesus wants us to love everyone btw - I just don't think you and I would agree on what that means. Don't bother citing Jesus if you don't actually care what he taught though. Just become a humanist and say "I decide what's right based on what feels good to me, there is no actual standard."
@pv3627
@pv3627 10 дней назад
@@tylerhall95 whatever you gotta keep telling yourself to justify disobeying the first and greatest commandment and second like unto it
@tylerhall95
@tylerhall95 10 дней назад
@@pv3627 love my neighbor as myself indeed. I berate myself for my own shortcomings. I for certain don’t intend to chop my penis off and start wearing women’s clothing.
@iloveamerica53
@iloveamerica53 7 дней назад
​@@tylerhall95beautiful!!!
@Plant12day
@Plant12day 11 дней назад
So many clapping hands! Beautiful!
@firecloud77
@firecloud77 11 дней назад
RU-vid is once again randomly hiding comments from view. If your comment seems to have disappeared, then you need to "Sort by" "Newest first." Unfortunately your hidden comments cannot be seen by the people you're writing them to and they receive no notification of your comment to them. This destroys the continuity of conversations. It's surprising how few people are aware of this RU-vid idiocy.
@sarahpinho1114
@sarahpinho1114 11 дней назад
I'm surprised they didn't cut her mic
@OmahaAreaLoya
@OmahaAreaLoya 11 дней назад
They’re afraid. Censoring the rainbow cult unleashes hell’s fury upon you. It’s only acceptable to silence conservatives.
@kelleyturner6584
@kelleyturner6584 11 дней назад
​@@OmahaAreaLoyaBigot!
@OmahaAreaLoya
@OmahaAreaLoya 11 дней назад
@@kelleyturner6584 bigot!
@TheForestCrone
@TheForestCrone 11 дней назад
She compared it to other sins; she's not saying it should be considered okay and normal by the church. It's not that egregious. She's saying the church should be and feel welcoming to sinners. At least, that's my take. It's still amazing and brave to say anything supportive at all, so I give her props.
@nickdipaolofan5948
@nickdipaolofan5948 9 дней назад
@@kelleyturner6584 I know you LGBT activists all think you are the next civil rights warriors but to Biblical people, you just sound like advocates for sexual deviancy and would feel welcome in Sodom. For every LGBT advocate that doesn't feel welcome in a more traditional church, there are 20 traditional members who don't feel comfortable with you trying to infiltrate their religion with your advocacy for sexual deviancy. there are plenty of leftist/secular churchs who piss on the bible, join one of those churches and be happy.
@rsc8148
@rsc8148 10 дней назад
Powerful. So well done.
@debbieshrubb1222
@debbieshrubb1222 11 дней назад
😢😢😢😢. So sad that this should need to be said among so called followers of Jesus.
@BrianTerrill
@BrianTerrill 11 дней назад
Followers of Jesus don't ignore the scriptures that teach this behavior to be an abomination
@TheChessApologist
@TheChessApologist 11 дней назад
​@BrianTerrill OK, instead of a fallacious sweeping appeal to the entirety of the scriptures, how many actual verses can you find on these "abominations," and how many of those come from sources other than the same people who routinely proved themselves to be in alignment with other incredibly archaic practices even faithful members of the church no longer adhere to? I'm not saying you dont have grounds to stand on within current church policy to make a point, but the idea that obscure references within the Bible should on their own dictate our Morality is patently absurd. I'm not even talking law of Moses stuff here, (although you are treading on thin ice by trying to argue basically anything cherry-picked out of the old testament) there are plenty of examples within the New testament of scriptures that conflict with the values of modern lds members if just taken and applied at face value. I realize you are just doing a quantity over quality style approach to this comment section, but maybe try using actual arguments next time. It helps our image a lot to have both common sense and compassion in our rhetoric
@OmahaAreaLoya
@OmahaAreaLoya 11 дней назад
It’s so sad that Christians would need to be reminded that Jesus doesn’t love sin. Jesus provides a way OUT of sin. He doesn’t give us hi-fives for our sins. We can seek deliverance from mental illness such as this, through Christ. That is how we show love, by pointing them to Christ and teaching truth unapologetically.
@kelleyturner6584
@kelleyturner6584 11 дней назад
​@@BrianTerrillScripture say nothing about transgender!!!!
@kelleyturner6584
@kelleyturner6584 11 дней назад
​@@OmahaAreaLoyaHe also told us not to judge, but to love!
@drbulbul
@drbulbul 11 дней назад
What lovely thoughts! ❤
@chandralaframboise963
@chandralaframboise963 11 дней назад
Good on her! Fantastic!
@kaijusushi8165
@kaijusushi8165 11 дней назад
Fast and testimony meeting is one of the few places where members are allowed to speak out for change in the church. The top 15 in Salt Lake are now so isolated from the rank and file membership that there is no longer any way for them to hear our voices.
@sjjsc92661
@sjjsc92661 11 дней назад
While I agree with her sentiments, why the need for a camera? Just say what you want to say without expecting an online congratulations.
@juneb5975
@juneb5975 11 дней назад
It may not be for congratulations, but possibly to help others to know that there are people who care. Or maybe so that other people might gain courage in standing up for kindness & Christlike love.
@kaijusushi8165
@kaijusushi8165 11 дней назад
The Top 15 in Salt Lake are completely isolated from the local members. There is no other way for them to hear our voice calling out for change in the church.
@TotalySane4111
@TotalySane4111 10 дней назад
​Ohhhh they hear it, believe me, they ignore it or they have patsies to down play it. Everyone else in the church gets criticized while the 15 come out smelling like roses or deal with the Lawyers.
@jeff-fah-fah
@jeff-fah-fah 9 дней назад
Why are you assigning a negative motive when you have no idea what the motivation was for recording and posting this? Maybe it is to encourage trans people, or to call out the leadership, or to empower others to speak up.
@benwhite15
@benwhite15 11 дней назад
Thanks for sharing. Beautiful!
@jacobopstad5483
@jacobopstad5483 9 дней назад
Well said!
@ruthgoodwin5466
@ruthgoodwin5466 11 дней назад
Beautiful and brave ❤ Respect!!!!!
@denisekeeran9883
@denisekeeran9883 11 дней назад
That made me all teary. Beautiful human right there.
@goodshepard00
@goodshepard00 11 дней назад
What a lovely, brave woman!
@janedanced5117
@janedanced5117 11 дней назад
She is and did amazing!
@shawnhuff3920
@shawnhuff3920 11 дней назад
LDS later day saints are not LGBTQ the gospel does say respect other people's opinions and views but is it doing harm to others by allowing them to be gay lesbian LGBTQ 🤔
@redflamearrow7113
@redflamearrow7113 11 дней назад
Good job! We need more brave people like you in the church. ❤
@chrishumphries7489
@chrishumphries7489 11 дней назад
Recorded for posting to RU-vid? There’s no sacred spaces anymore. Not saying this discussion cannot be had elsewhere, it certainly can and in many cases should. But this was clearly recorded in the chapel for primary purpose of posting to social media. As a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, I am only lamenting this fact. We do need to support those from all walks of life. We need them to know they loved and valued and cherished, not only by us, but by God. We also need to trust Him when He has revealed doctrine. We need to trust that He actually does communicate directly with modern prophets and apostles. The social/societal values and norms are changing rapidly, and the Church needs to be sensitive and loving in those changes, yet it also has a duty to uphold the doctrine (see the proclamation on the Family). This is a very very tricky balance, but I trust that God will help guide and inspire our leaders to get it right. Either Christ ultimately helms this Church through imperfect people, or He doesn’t. Ours needs to be a message of 1) we love God first and foremost and 2) we love our neighbor as ourselves. That’s when we’re going to have the Spirit guide us.
@tomoates8568
@tomoates8568 11 дней назад
Just curious, what's your issue exactly that this was posted? It's something positive, showing one of your members be compassionate to others who might feel alone there. I grew up Mormon but I'm now atheist, as far as I remember there was times even when a stake meeting for instance would be broadcast for people to watch remotely. Regular church meetings were not something that was closed off from the public like your Temple ceremonies are, or has that changed?
@hnorth1599
@hnorth1599 11 дней назад
To clarify: the "Proclamation on the Family" isn't doctrine--it's a proclamation. If it were doctrine, it would literally be titled as such. Just sayin'.
@chrishumphries7489
@chrishumphries7489 11 дней назад
@@tomoates8568 There’s a difference between “broadcasting a meeting” for members of a congregation and personally recoding for the purpose of posting over social media. We do not, for example ever broadcast the sacrament portion of the meeting at all out of reverence and sacred respect. A testimony meeting should be a sacred space for those in the meeting or directly involved with the congregation at home, not everyone on RU-vid. I love the compassion! We should be compassionate!! Christ was compassionate to those caught in adultery! Yet, He gently but firmly said, “Neither do I condemn you. Go and sin no more.” “Gender is an essential characteristic of individual premortal, mortal, and eternal identity and purpose” -Family proclamation. This is the doctrine! So while we NEED to embrace and genuinely love any individual, we cannot (out of faith and love of God) embrace the ideology that gender fluidity and “sex change” is a good and great thing. That is where faith comes in. We love and trust God, and He will ultimately be proven right, whether here and now or later. Admittedly this is a most difficult balance, but one that members of the Church of Jesus Christ must embrace. While we need to understand that issues with gender identity is a very real part of many’s experience in the world now, however, we do not advocate or seek “sex change” as it directly goes against revealed doctrine.
@chrishumphries7489
@chrishumphries7489 11 дней назад
@@hnorth1599 It is doctrine. It has been stated as such directly by the first presidency and apostles.
@conductorsearle
@conductorsearle 11 дней назад
@@chrishumphries7489 The fact that you believe this bigotry spewing forth from those old fossils is from God just speaks to the depravity of the brainwashing of this cult. This woman, despite being Mormon, is actually speaking as a true Christian. Your leaders attempt to use the teachings of Jesus to justify bigotry as a political maneuver to shore up conservative support among those members who are unhappy with the recent (slightly) more tolerant language towards gay people. Mormonism doesn't even really promote the teachings of Jesus anyway, as the BoM is the fabrication of a con man. I get that you're upset about the bigotry of the cult being exposed more, though. You should be more upset that your leaders preach bigotry in the name of Jesus.
@seaneenduke2024
@seaneenduke2024 10 дней назад
The bit where she said she would help escort after dark......what does that reference? In the handbook does it mention something like that? Brave lady for speaking up.
@leslieboyce2455
@leslieboyce2455 10 дней назад
She is referencing where the policy says that if someone has transitioned in any way, they can’t stay over night. For example FSY or youth camps.
@BG-ig6fd
@BG-ig6fd 10 дней назад
@@leslieboyce2455disgusting. Especially since there are so many pedophiles and sexual abuser church members. As long as they’re cisgender, it’s fine. Did they not learn ANYthing form the Boy Scouts tragedy?
@stephaniewatson1727
@stephaniewatson1727 10 дней назад
Bravo!!!
@brendawright5899
@brendawright5899 11 дней назад
I don't have any religion nor do I believe in any god but I try and do the right thing.
@highdesertsunbeam
@highdesertsunbeam 11 дней назад
Amazing thank you!!! ❤
@lisacollins5184
@lisacollins5184 7 дней назад
I can't believe they didn't cut her mic!
@sheathomas727
@sheathomas727 9 дней назад
It's nice she wants to try to help trans individuals feel welcome in her ward, but it's basically gaslighting and simply not true to say they're welcome there. Does she really think they will feel welcome because ONE person accepts them? Will they really feel welcome there when there are completely discriminatory policies in place and the church refuses to acknowledge a core part of their identity as valid? She's not a true ally if she supports such an institution. The policies are clearly transphobic and an invalidating environment is extremely harmful to a person. Nowhere in there did she call out the real problem, which is the church for being transphobic and discriminatory.
@williamjueschke9960
@williamjueschke9960 11 дней назад
Why was this recorded, especially in the chapel?
@proffernot5485
@proffernot5485 11 дней назад
Because freedom and awareness
@marquitaarmstrong399
@marquitaarmstrong399 11 дней назад
Let truth shine forth!!!!!
@brianrosenlof388
@brianrosenlof388 11 дней назад
Brave woman!
@markmagana7389
@markmagana7389 11 дней назад
Love it
@oursmalltribe5189
@oursmalltribe5189 11 дней назад
What does she mean when she says if you are asked to leave when the sun goes down?
@fullmetalpharmacist
@fullmetalpharmacist 11 дней назад
In the new policy, kids who have transitioned in any way cannot sleep overnight at camps or conferences and must be picked up.
@gregoryroberts9230
@gregoryroberts9230 11 дней назад
​@fullmetalpharmacist Wow. That's not cool that transitioned kids can not stay overnight at camps or conferences. The intolerance and exclusionary mindset of the church around this issue is ridiculous. The church once again finds itself behind the times today with LGBTQ, just as it previously did with the priesthood and temple ban against black people.
@kimhaughton3771
@kimhaughton3771 11 дней назад
​@fullmetalpharmacist I invite you to actually read the revised General Handbook. It states nothing about that situation, nor does it offer that advice. Please quote the section number where it is located so that I might read it.
@gcarson19
@gcarson19 11 дней назад
​@@kimhaughton3771gaslight much?
@misterjensen1974
@misterjensen1974 11 дней назад
@@kimhaughton3771 Sure. See 38.6.23 "Individuals Who Identify as Trangender" which includes the text "For further guidance ... refer to these guiding principles". This links to a PDF that includes details about the overnight policy and the bathroom rules.
@kelliebporter
@kelliebporter 10 дней назад
I had the same idea.😮 But it would be weird bc I haven't been to church in 7 years. 😊
@johnsonk1d12
@johnsonk1d12 11 дней назад
She is right! Everyone should feel welcome in this church. We fall short everyday and need the light of Jesus in our lives. However, we can love someone well and not participate in their disillusion. I feel like Christ would have wrapped his arms around those struggling with gender dysphoria and loved them well but I am confident he would have also told them the truth as well.
@notreal-duh
@notreal-duh 10 дней назад
just like i show mormons love by trying to rid them of their delusional belief in magic underwear
@BG-ig6fd
@BG-ig6fd 10 дней назад
Your “truth” is based on what, exactly?
@notreal-duh
@notreal-duh 10 дней назад
@@BG-ig6fd direct experience
@johnsonk1d12
@johnsonk1d12 10 дней назад
@@BG-ig6fd that men can’t be women and women can’t be men.
@WasatchIntercept
@WasatchIntercept 11 дней назад
I wonder how well it would be received, if some religious folk took advantage of an open mic opportunity at an LGBT event, and did some preaching?
@gcarson19
@gcarson19 11 дней назад
Lots of tares out there certain that they're wheat...
@HiddenBrilliance
@HiddenBrilliance 11 дней назад
VERY brave.
@sammiller4321
@sammiller4321 11 дней назад
This is not what a testimony meeting is for.
@aBrewster29
@aBrewster29 11 дней назад
She stayed within the bounds of the policy and tied it back to Christian discipleship. It’s on point, much more so than the travelogues and prosperity gospel testimonies that have consumed about half of every testimony meeting I’ve ever been in. What, exactly, is your issue contention with it?
@MrRaythMandblues
@MrRaythMandblues 11 дней назад
According to the Handbook, "To bear testimony means to declare gospel truths as inspired by the Holy Ghost." which is just what this sister did.
@aBrewster29
@aBrewster29 11 дней назад
@@MrRaythMandblues amen!!!
@firecloud77
@firecloud77 11 дней назад
@@MrRaythMandblues Transgenderism isn't a gospel principle.
@conductorsearle
@conductorsearle 11 дней назад
Right, "testimonies" are supposed to be for indoctrinating children to recite conman JS as being a "prophet" and reiterating the party line of those bigoted old fossils in SLC>
@tuffwith2effs899
@tuffwith2effs899 11 дней назад
Real people being good people. We love to see it and feel reminded that "the church" doesn't always represent who the people who show up there actually are.
@jaredhigdon1680
@jaredhigdon1680 11 дней назад
The inversion of reality where we call people weird for being uncomfortable with males in the women's restroom or males attending girls camp is getting old.
@mekareed895
@mekareed895 11 дней назад
@@jaredhigdon1680 If they don't have male parts they aren't male. They are then totally harmless to women by your logic.
@marcyarrowchis678
@marcyarrowchis678 11 дней назад
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@OmahaAreaLoya
@OmahaAreaLoya 11 дней назад
@@mekareed895 That is exactly the mindless insanity that is driving the world to hell. What you say is absolutely false. A male is a male, regardless of whether he’s chopped off his male parts.
@mara62634
@mara62634 11 дней назад
meet a trans person please
@marcyarrowchis678
@marcyarrowchis678 11 дней назад
@@mara62634 WHY? How will that make anyone feel safe in real female spaces…..get their own! Soooo sick of this replacement of women 👿
@CTRCHOICE
@CTRCHOICE 11 дней назад
Why did she film it?
@kelleyturner6584
@kelleyturner6584 11 дней назад
She didn't..She audio taped it, just like my husband does when I solo in our Ward.
@lionspawfilmandphoto
@lionspawfilmandphoto 11 дней назад
To prove it happened.
@CTRCHOICE
@CTRCHOICE 10 дней назад
@@kelleyturner6584she didn’t film it? Then what video are we watching?
@ruthdorius2831
@ruthdorius2831 11 дней назад
Her compassion is evident & the new guidelines on this topic are compassionate for All members. They are also for keeping All people safe, including transgenders & regular male & female genders.
@kelleyturner6584
@kelleyturner6584 11 дней назад
Keeping "people safe." The church seems to believe the far right BS, that trans, LGBTQ+ are pedophiles, when statistics show, white, religious, men are the largest group of pedophiles!!!!
@Gespense
@Gespense 11 дней назад
This is so cringe...
@LavaMan60
@LavaMan60 11 дней назад
Fantastic!
@carolyearsley
@carolyearsley 11 дней назад
Lot of empty pews there. When I was attending back in the '90's they often had to open up the overflow.
@ojoycie
@ojoycie 11 дней назад
AMEN!
@NelsonBarney-s1x
@NelsonBarney-s1x 9 дней назад
Martin Susan Smith Michael Hernandez Timothy
@BrianTerrill
@BrianTerrill 11 дней назад
What i hate is that in this society i can get sued if i sell my former steers as milk cows even if im sure those milk cows id as milk cows people still sue me if the milk cow was once a bullock then a steer.
@BrianTerrill
@BrianTerrill 11 дней назад
"1 He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord" (Deuteronomy 23:1) "The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the Lord thy God." (Deuteronomy 22:5)
@melaneyphillips9789
@melaneyphillips9789 11 дней назад
Try spending more time studying the New Testament, which supercedes the Old Testament. Or sing Love One Another.
@BrianTerrill
@BrianTerrill 11 дней назад
​@melaneyphillips9789 yes I knew someone would say that: "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind," (1 Corinthians 6:9) "8 But what went ye out for to see? A man clothed in soft raiment? behold, they that wear soft clothing are in kings’ houses." (Mathew 11:8) note, the word translated to "soft" is mwlako, same word used that was translated in 1 Corinthians 6:9 as effeminate. Speaking of "the law" which Deuteronomy is a part of Jesus taught: "17 ¶ Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."( Matthew 5:17-19) So you're wrong
@OmahaAreaLoya
@OmahaAreaLoya 11 дней назад
@@melaneyphillips9789 Yeah, you really need to put down whatever nonsense you’re reading to get your info on this. Start reading the scriptures, including the New Testament. Jesus never nullified his laws on morality. Jesus never condoned waging war on basic and obvious biology.
@kaijusushi8165
@kaijusushi8165 11 дней назад
If you believe that, then do you also believe in slavery, floating axe heads, talking donkeys and ethnic cleansing? How about stoning people for lighting a fire on the sabbath? Did you eat a cheeseburger for lunch, drive your car to church, or wear a blended wool suit? Well buddy, I have news for you, you too have broken the commandments of the Lord God.
@nordicexile7378
@nordicexile7378 11 дней назад
Have you ever heard of "telestial kingdom smoothie"? That'll be you in the next life if you don't repent of your holier-than-thou attitude, there, bud!
@RebeccaGroendyke
@RebeccaGroendyke 11 дней назад
This gospel is a gospel of light and truth. Satan is the author of lies and confusion. A man that chooses to present as a woman… no matter how he feels, is not a woman. That is a lie and the more lies we entertain, the more we believe in the lies. I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and I love my Savior above all else. I have made serious and sacred covenants with God. I have promised to be obedient with exactness, to stay the course where my appetites, passions, and desires, are kept within the bounds the Lord has set, and to not speak ill or evil of the Lords anointed. I made covenants to live according to God’s law and not man’s. I am taught to shed off the natural man as the natural man is an enemy to God. I have to repent everyday. I go to Church to renew my covenants and to learn about Jesus and His ways, not man’s. All are welcome to come and partake of the gospel fruit. All are welcome to walk the straight and narrow path. All are welcome to come to Church to learn and grow in Gospel light and truth. All are welcome to repent and experience a mighty change of heart but I feel many of our members are trying to bring the large and spacious building into our Church and Gospel. Some are upset that we do not wish to break our covenants we made with God. Some say they are defending and advocating for those that are transgender … do TG not deserve to know the truth and experience the fullness of gospel truth? Do TG not have claims upon the atonement? Are others advocating for this movement getting in the way of what Christ can do for them? Christ suffered in Gethsemane for sin, sickness, challenges of every kind. I read in the scriptures God created male and female period. Marriage was ordained of God period. Marriage is between man and woman period. Are we not offending God when we tell Him how to run His kingdom? Are we not offending God when our children are confused with mixed messages? So important were these truths, that in 1995, a Proclamation was issued and sent to the world with a warning. Some say, the Family Proclamation is outdated and the Brethren are behind the times and need to keep up with the world. When were we ever told that we were to be like the world or of the world? That is the large spacious building speaking where people are pointing their fingers and scoffing at those trying to hold fast to the rod. Yes God is a God of love and He expects us to love His children. Is it love to let others believe that they do not also have to repent? Is it love for those that have made covenants to break covenants and help perpetuate a lie to spare the feelings of someone that is confused? Is it love to forsake the commandments? I am reading in the Book of Mormon about the people that began to forget God and live in iniquity. Soon they dwindled in unbelief. They had become so clouded with lies, that the spirit of God did cease to strive with them. Jesus taught us to come follow Him and sin no more and that applies to the thief, the liar, the gossiper, the hypocrite, the prideful, etc. Our God is a God of order and clarification and boundaries might be housekeeping items to get us back focused on the teachings of Christ. So…come to Church, but leave the ways of of the natural man at the door. Come learn how to overcome the world and become more like the Savior. The bravest thing we can do is tell others that the Atonement is for them. That there is nothing beyond the Savior’s reach. That there is a higher and holier way to live and it comes through surrendering your heart to God. Brave is rebuking the enemy and his lies. Brave is having courage to confront the labels of the world with the words “ I am a Child of God with divine worth. My Heavenly Father loves me so much… too much to leave me in this fallen state. I will let go of my ways to make room for His higher ways and this is possible because of what Jesus Christ did for me personally in the Garden of Gethsemane.”
@debbiefodor7088
@debbiefodor7088 11 дней назад
I say good on the church for keeping people safe from predators who say they are women so they can access women’s spaces.
@mekareed895
@mekareed895 11 дней назад
@@debbiefodor7088 I don't think you know what the definition of Trans is. Google it.
@conductorsearle
@conductorsearle 11 дней назад
@@debbiefodor7088 That is one of the most bigoted, ignorant statements posted here, but typically Mormon. It is astounding how brainwashed your cult is.
@kaijusushi8165
@kaijusushi8165 11 дней назад
So you're equating trans people with sexual predators?
@conductorsearle
@conductorsearle 11 дней назад
@@kaijusushi8165That’s exactly what she’s doing, as many Mormons are really that ignorant. Utah already has one of the highest teen suicide rates in the country and people like her are going to help send it through the roof, in the name of Jesus.
@conductorsearle
@conductorsearle 11 дней назад
@@mekareed895The “church” probably doesn’t allow her to.
@mini3pilot
@mini3pilot 11 дней назад
why did the church leave the boy scouts?
@kaijusushi8165
@kaijusushi8165 11 дней назад
It was to protect the church from further liability for child abuse claims
@WasatchIntercept
@WasatchIntercept 11 дней назад
Simple, Monson died, and Nelson did not hold the same value for the BSA that Monson did.
@kelleyturner6584
@kelleyturner6584 11 дней назад
Because they were allowing gay boys and girls to become a part of the program.
@kelleyturner6584
@kelleyturner6584 11 дней назад
​@@kaijusushi8165That's what it should have been about, but is wasn't!
@incognito137
@incognito137 11 дней назад
🤦🏼‍♀️🙄
@pattysmith5924
@pattysmith5924 11 дней назад
Currently, in the LDS Church, if you are a polygamist, you will be excommunicated. Why isn't she "bravely" standing up for them? I can use the exact same arguments and emotions -- and more!
@kaijusushi8165
@kaijusushi8165 11 дней назад
I suggest you think that through and figure out the answer for yourself before you retweet what someone else put into your head.
@bustindustin959
@bustindustin959 11 дней назад
​@@kaijusushi8165... Please explain
@pattysmith5924
@pattysmith5924 11 дней назад
@@kaijusushi8165 You mean comment sense ?
@kelleyturner6584
@kelleyturner6584 11 дней назад
Different religion!!!
@danielfife
@danielfife 11 дней назад
The prophet of the LDS church is a polygamist. He’s sealed to two women who are and will be his wives for all eternity. I think the leader of the church already having multiple wives is plenty of representation, no?
@DirtmopAZ
@DirtmopAZ 11 дней назад
I love dissent so much. I get high off of seeing shit like this
@firecloud77
@firecloud77 11 дней назад
We shall assume, then, that you also love the dissent expressed by those who dissent from the "gender affirming care [mutilation]" provided to minors that the medical industry is making money off of.
@lauraparis2023
@lauraparis2023 11 дней назад
❤❤
@chrisdunn1602
@chrisdunn1602 10 дней назад
Mormon problems...
@brettwjensen
@brettwjensen 11 дней назад
This is only the beginning of Dallin Oaks' reign of anti-LGBT terror. This update was pure Oaks, who has used the incapacity of Nelson to push Oaks' agenda of hate.
@OmahaAreaLoya
@OmahaAreaLoya 11 дней назад
Oaks is only perceived as conservative. He will continue to march the church down the leftist woke path to hell just like Rusty Nelson has.
@kelleyturner6584
@kelleyturner6584 11 дней назад
I am afraid of that very thing happening!😢
@OmahaAreaLoya
@OmahaAreaLoya 11 дней назад
Oaks is not actually conservative. He will continue leading the church down the woke path every bit as much as Rusty Nelson.
@firecloud77
@firecloud77 11 дней назад
It is regrettable that you find it necessary to express your agenda of hate regarding how the Church deals with gender dysphoria issues. Please do better.
@brettwjensen
@brettwjensen 6 дней назад
@@firecloud77 Why should I not hate a cult that condemns people and drives them to suicide. Especially a cult founded by a sexual predator who at 38 married 14 year old girls, teenagers and other men’s wives?
@bodytrainer1crane730
@bodytrainer1crane730 10 дней назад
💙💙💙💙💙
@HaleStorm49
@HaleStorm49 11 дней назад
Alma told us even back when Korihor, like Lucifer, went after the women first. The fact that she chose to broadcast her poor judgement is deliciously ironic.
@mekareed895
@mekareed895 11 дней назад
@@HaleStorm49 loving one of God's creation is never poor judgement
@squeakhawk01
@squeakhawk01 11 дней назад
@HaleStorm49 Wow, not only a judgmental attack on the lady, but a sexist attack too. I bet you think that all women deserve any misogyny thrown at them becasue of what Eve did in the Garden of Eden, huh?
@OmahaAreaLoya
@OmahaAreaLoya 11 дней назад
@@mekareed895 You don’t love a child by cheering them on as they reach for a hot stove. You love them by keeping them safe and teaching them truth.
@mekareed895
@mekareed895 11 дней назад
@@OmahaAreaLoya You can't change a person with a psychological condition. It doesn't matter how much correction you give. Gender dysphoria is a psychological issue just like depression and all the other psychological conditions
@marcyarrowchis678
@marcyarrowchis678 11 дней назад
@@OmahaAreaLoya💯🎯
@susiekathryn8570
@susiekathryn8570 11 дней назад
Wow…. Real reverent in church.
@nancyevans3590
@nancyevans3590 11 дней назад
She has more love in her than all the Q15 combined.
@firecloud77
@firecloud77 11 дней назад
This sister is falsely equating issues of race with psychological issues, and she is implying that the new policy is not an example of "Christ's light shining." She is also encouraging the use of pronouns that pander to someone's false perception of their body. We would never say to a member of the Church who is dangerously thin and suffering from anorexia, "Yes, your body is indeed fat, and I applaud the purging you engage in after eating." Yes, we should love people with psychological disorders, but challenging the Church's wise approach to dealing with them is counterproductive. Furthermore, it should be kept in mind that most children grow out of gender dysphoria as they reach adolescence. A study found that a large percentage of prepubertal children with gender dysphoria no longer showed signs of dysphoria after puberty. Wise adults set an example for children. We don't pander to psychological disorders as though they are necessarily permanently immutable.
@Metroid-rg9pn
@Metroid-rg9pn 11 дней назад
Why do so many people only look at Christ's kindness, and ignore the parts where he's angry and wrathful and condemning of sin?
@mekareed895
@mekareed895 11 дней назад
Christ only condemned those who said they knew God yet treated others harshly. Hence him always reprimanding the Sadducees and Pharisees. God was the one who showed his wrath. He did that while people were still under Moses's laws. He gave us Christ so that we wouldn't be under Moses's laws anymore and so that we can enjoy his love instead of his wrath. That's why people don't mention his wrath anymore. Since Jesus raised from the dead we have had the mercy of God and love.
@Metroid-rg9pn
@Metroid-rg9pn 11 дней назад
@@mekareed895 I could see that being the case for Protestant/Catholic theology, but as she's testifying in an LDS church, both the Book of Mormon and Doctrine and Covenants are canon, and Christ's wrath is just as present in D&C
@aBrewster29
@aBrewster29 11 дней назад
A couple thoughts: 1) Accounts of Christ’s mercy, love, and kindness are in substantially greater quantity than accounts of His anger. 2) You also need to take into consideration the who/what/where that sparked the Savior’s wrath. It was the hypocrisy of the priestly class and the wealthy. He did not show wrath or condemnation toward regular, everyday people. I see this a lot from the Jacob Hanson and Ward Radio crowds these days, where the vast majority of Christ’s teachings are ignored, but they’ll get unlimited mileage out of the money changers story and use it to condemn “nice Jesus” and kindness. They’ll even go so far as name calling, supposedly in defense of the Savior…talk about misguided. More to your point, obedience matters, but obedience to what is an important piece of that equation. Christ taught to evaluate teachings based on their intrinsic goodness, their fruits.
@Metroid-rg9pn
@Metroid-rg9pn 11 дней назад
@@aBrewster29 Perhaps a key disconnect is I view God and Jesus as being of the same mind and will, so if God is angry then Jesus, in the same situation, would also be angry. If that premise is correct, then anytime there was anger or condemnation in the OT then Christ would be equally angered or condemning. So by limiting yourself to 1,500-2,000 words that quotes Jesus directly out of the +1,000,000 words in all of canon scripture, you're ignoring the "vast majority" of Christ's teachings
@mekareed895
@mekareed895 11 дней назад
@@aBrewster29 And I would like to add that the money changer situation happened because the changers were charging an exorbant rate to change people's money to the local currency making it almost impossible for people to worship in the way that God told them in Deuteronomy. So the money changers were blocking people from worshipping God. Jesus didn't like that and kicked them out of the temple, threw the money to the floor by overturning tables and proclaimed the temple is a house of prayer and the money changers have become thieves. Stealing from those who wanted to worship God and there by stealing from God.
@anthonydurling4093
@anthonydurling4093 10 дней назад
As an inactive/non believing memdrr, this is not the time or place for speaking out against church policies.
@firecloud77
@firecloud77 11 дней назад
Oh my. Will you also provide barf bags for the anorexic members who have a distorted perception of their body?
@mekareed895
@mekareed895 11 дней назад
@@firecloud77 from your lips to God's ears 🙏🏾
@marcyarrowchis678
@marcyarrowchis678 11 дней назад
@@mekareed895😂😂😂😂😂😂
@kaijusushi8165
@kaijusushi8165 11 дней назад
Are you planning to try to smuggle all that hate into Mormon heaven in your carry on baggage?
@marcyarrowchis678
@marcyarrowchis678 11 дней назад
@@kaijusushi8165 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤡
@firecloud77
@firecloud77 11 дней назад
@@kaijusushi8165 Please specify the "hate" that you believe I harbor?
@firecloud77
@firecloud77 11 дней назад
Will you people be advocating for transgender eternal marriage in the temples next?
@mekareed895
@mekareed895 11 дней назад
@@firecloud77 who knows. But as someone who couldn't be part of the church till 1978 because of "Doctrine" and just had an eternal marriage 4 years ago - I hope so. It's not God-like to exclude people based on stuff about them you don't understand.
@firecloud77
@firecloud77 11 дней назад
@@mekareed895 I appreciate your perspective, however it's not analogous. Transgender sealings would be in direct conflict with the eternal principles outlined in "The Family - A Proclamation to The World."
@mekareed895
@mekareed895 11 дней назад
@@firecloud77 it took a "revelation" to let me in and to get all the same benefits as everyone else. Maybe someone will suddenly have another "revelation".
@firecloud77
@firecloud77 11 дней назад
@@mekareed895 The two scenarios are not analogous. One involves race, and the other a psychological condition.
@mekareed895
@mekareed895 11 дней назад
@@firecloud77 for me my race (my outside). For them their sex and dress (which is also their outside). If it were about a psychological condition then people with depression, bipolar disorder, anxiety, schizophrenia and other psychological conditions should receive the same treatment.
@teresaford6530
@teresaford6530 11 дней назад
This is Woke crap folks. I’m no longer a member, but if you’re going to be active you should follow the direction of the brethren as the word of God. Otherwise, leave. Either the church is true or its not. You can’t have it both ways.
@bustindustin959
@bustindustin959 11 дней назад
Gaaaaayyyy!!
@Dave-if5qj
@Dave-if5qj 11 дней назад
Blah blah blah blah
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