Just for context, the top spec LDV is +/- R150k than the top GWM P-Series. I can already see them exiting the south african market before GTA VI arrives. If Big Dave is reading this, I would like to propose a video. CHINESE BAKKIES FACE OFF. A comparison test including a drag race and light off road and on road tests where you guys review all the chinese bakkies.
With that logic the Hilux, Ranger, D-max etc would also leave the market because they're more expensive than the P-series. South Africans clearly are not interested in value.
@@yissibiiyte Those other brands are well established and well known, a chinese value bakkie that is more expensive than the other chinese value bakkie isnt going to do well.
Shot themselves in the feet with that pricing. I am open to a Chinese bakkie and think their quality is acceptable for my needs , but at R750k, I’m getting a low mileage Hilux or Ranger.
I was born in England, and I remember seeing many LDV vans there when I was a toddler, basically LDV is a British brand that was bought by the Chinese who have used the name since. I used to see LDV Convoys, and Pilots driving around the place, but they aren’t made in England anymore, they are made in China
You must be off your rocker to pay 800k for this. Worth faaaakol in a few years time. You can buy a low mileage Hilux or Ranger for that price and get most of your money back on resale.
It's madness i agree! SAIC always does this when coming to South Africa. The same thing happened with the MG products which were overpriced back in 2012 causing them to abandon ship in SA
Presenter has a relaxed easy going presenting style - I guess it challenging to be unbiased especially when comparing against the more well-know brands...
We need to remembered the rules of the economy. The fewer the supply, the higher the price. In time these vans will be many, the price will be cheaper that time. It is not really competing with any bakkie. It is offering an alternative. We may regret it after 10 years when we realize that this van survived beyond the established brands. Rivals are tipping the scales at 1 million rands already. China is too far. It was not cheap to get this beauty here. Well done, incredible review.
@@BeardedTrackermaybe but hilux are in the top list of being stolen soo why risk it while they're other better alternative...... the better bakkie to buy is Mitsubishi is more reliable and not that popular like ford and Toyota 🤷♂️but the warranty in those Chinese cars is very good to gamble on them lol
The price tag is too high for a starter upper trying to secure market share agreed. Has it got low range / diff lock or did I miss it somewhere. Just don’t get stuck or take it to Melkbos 4x4 my cousin.😂
I was hoping you will share drivability such as ride quality (hard or soft) on the road COMPARED to other marques. Also, how is it in cornering, does it intill confidence, is rathling or wallowing. Comfort fearures such as music, aircon, etc, its new make boss! But good review overall. Pls do compare with other marquee
Good video, but I would really appreciate adding the basic specs in all driving impression videos. I was waiting for fuel economy and no mention at all, even if only manufacturers claim.
Yes we are a country that loves our bakkies but also cannot insult our intelligence with that price! Also the rear design is giving off a Friday after lunch vibe.
@@hopewellnzuza it earned it's title decades ago when it was actually well-priced for what it was. Nowadays it's lightyears behind the competition, yet is more expensive than them. Get into a Ranger after being in a Hilux and you feel like you've changed centuries; and they are pretty much equally priced. You cannot argue that the Hilux isn't EXTREMELY overpriced for what it is. Toyota sells on nothing but brand loyalty and the knowledge that it's customers will never even consider the competition. Toyota knows it can rob people blind and get away with it. Just look at a "new" (40-year old) LC 70-series that's more cheaply built than a Renault Kwid, yet costs R1mill.
@@yissibiiyteI totally get you and to be fair the comparison is different as Hilux is still on an old generation platform compared to a ranger new generation there will be differences favoring the Ranger that I can agree on, but Hilux has never been quick to please with technology because technology moves on quick and interests fades fast with techy stuff in cars. Strong reliability, value holding and piece of mind is the trump card. Land cruiser is a different target market, one where all the fancy gismos isn't so much a priority, rarely you'll find Cruisers kept standard without purpose built customizations on them because reliability becomes top priority when you start injecting money customizing a Land Cruiser for individuals different needs.
@@hopewellnzuza I'm not disagreeing that outdated cars like the Land Cruiser or even Hilux have their purpose. I'm just saying that they should not be the same price as brand new, tech-laden bakkies while being so much worse than them in most metrics. An outdated bakkie should be much cheaper than a new one, just look at the Mahindra Pik-up. It is old and outdated, but I have no problems with it because it is less than half the price of other bakkies. A 70-series is even more outdated than the Mahindra, yet costs 3× the price.
I must say, what is a bakkie review without an offroad test? And no, switching the 4x4 on at a gravel road for no good reason is not an offroad test :) I would appreciate if you added a load bay dust test to see how much dust or not gets into the load bays of different bakkies while driving on gravel roads. Will there be a JAC T9 review soon?
This is a bit disappointing presentation and I nearly tuned off, but wanted to see more and learn about the barkie features. Should have opened with what is outstanding about the car, features and engine options. Then go to the comparisons and price points. There was absolutely no reason to change the car to all wheel drive on a gravel road that even an i10 would have found to be an easy road.
This is a top spec bakkie from 6-8 yrs ago, not a bakkie in 2024. The pricing has adjusted but the design and spec hasn't. I had hope this was going to be a similar offering like the P-series since LDV have been in AUS for years. Oh well maybe in 3-4 yrs once they've learnt some lessons about our market and looked at their competitors.
First question..are there parts including body parts available in case of a crash??..like a few other chinese brands.".15 working days from China " when i was involved with a panel shop..Ask those questions before signing.. Don't be seduced by the fancy specs and bells and whistles..this vehicle is completely overpriced..Would hsve liked to see Jacob do his Land Cruiser move on this on the same off road course ..i don't see this bakkie rocking the sales charts...
besically when you swipe for it you must remember to pay the R 20 for their bank changes, that's is how the Chinese do business here in SA. At this price point the generally established brands are a better option. they must check in with Mahindra for an agricultural lifestyle and build from there.
This is the run out model. According to what I understand a brand new T60 will be released next year. Will be more in line with today's new models like Ford and VW.
😂😂😂😂 good luck selling it at that price. The p-series sold and broke into the market because it came in at around R550k for the top of the range model.
No, just no. Send it back to China. I'm convinced that the okes who determined the pricing on the Ford Puma were fired, and LDV decided to hire them because the pricing on this is severely off 😂
This bakkie gets a thumbs down for me. When I first saw this vehicle , the price shocked me for a Chinese car that plans to compete with established brands. The growth of Havaal and Hyundai (at some point in time) shows that South Africans are price sensitive and as a car manufacturer you need to be careful with your pricing. The big German brands like BMW and Mercedes are starting to struggle because of the same fact.
It's funny watching this from the UK. Mitsubishi has completely pulled out of the market here, Isuzu's are a far rarer site on the roads, the Hilux is a lot less common place and the Ranger is WAY more popular. I've only seen one of these and it was electric (don't think they sell the diesel one here, especially given how much it has fallen out of favour ). Overall, vans here WAY outsell Bakkies.
On the vehicle: Overpriced. On the presenter : This isn't TikTok. Pls bring back the old presenters. This used to be a good car review channel. Lately we have a bunch of influencers styled reviewers that offer little technical or automotive input. You are dropping the ball.
@@sihlemkhize never can take criticism without making it about something else more "convenient" hey...? Just read the comment without inferring anything. Nobody said anything about race
@@hbnation1159 you agreed to the criticism purely because the guy is black, the people who are holding this country back from moving forward is people who don't want to see transformation
GWM P500 HEV is coming, let's see! Over 200KW but let's see real world fuel consumption. Izuzu is not keeping up with the times and pasting GR stickers on a Hilux, is not a Ford Ranger Raptor. GWM should maybe consider a plant in SA, nearby a reliable harbour for the rest of africa
South african consumers have BLD (Brand loyalty disorder) so unless this brand sponsors the springboks or does something special, no one will pay it any mind.
Thats true people are loyal, but come on that price point is just suicide. Also we aint that loyal, otherwise the P series and Jac would not be touched.
This car market as been taken over by preowned (we buy cars) and also the chinese, therefore it is an unfair competition to all the other brands and thus this is difficult to all the consumers. Expensive and reputable brands are remaining expensive and only the rich can afford
people are attracted to features and tech that's what makes these Chinese brands attractive for all that and the price, whereas the tried and tested brands charge an arm and a leg for the same features
You put 4wheel drive were not necessary you were supposed to give that bakkie touch terrain to off road then give is an insight to the engine transmission a detailed view give us is there diff lock or not give us the type of suspension you just rush to pricing no scrutiny in the product bad bad review
I don't think we will see this bakkie in the bush or construction sites. It just has too much to live up to and the sound decision of South Africans for their needs.
How many South Africans load cement in their bakkie. Most owners never go off-road. When you are comparing vehicles should you not show what you getting for the other vehicles.
Give it year they going to lower that price by alot..., Edit: Cause for 600k im using a bag strap to secure my luggage in the rear????, no ways. This must be a joke.
