Красивый очень притягивающий фильм Молчание моря ! Будто сама там оказалась ! Просто Красивее фильма не видела ! Актёры тоже очень симпатичные ! Браво режиссёру фильма .
Ho molto apprezzato i commenti di Kelly Duong, molto acuti. Io amo molto il racconto a cui il film si è ispirato; lo lessi a 14 anni e spesso l' ho riletto. Nel libro sono spiegate molto bene le motivazioni che hanno spinto Werner a decidere di andare sul fronte russo, verso una probabile morte: tutti i suoi sogni su una possibile armonia fra Francia e Germania sono ormai un' illusione. Mi ha anche colpito vedere come Jeanne diventa più bella via via che cresce nell'amore verso Werner. È molto bella quando lo ascolta suonare nella notte di Natale. Non è andata in chiesa perché sperava di potergli stare vicino, di vederlo. La mano sullo schienale della poltrona è una carezza pensata, ma non data. È anche consolante potersi innamorare di un nemico. Siamo tutti esseri umani.
potresti aiutarmi? quali sono le differenze tra questo spezzettone di film e gli episodi del libro (sempre riguardo quello che succede in questo video?
@@carlottaspalazzi6747queste scene non appartengono al libro. Anche il cugino intraprendente non c'è. Nel libro tutto si svolge nella cucina della casa, con l'ufficiale che parla e racconta di sé e dei suoi sogni. Nel libro ci sono solo i soliloqui dell' ufficiale e i pensieri dello scrivente che è lo zio o nonno della della ragazza. Solo alla fine l'addio solo sussurrato della nipote. Il film di Melville è aderente al testo ma molto statico, giocato molto sulla fotografia. Qui si salva la storia dell' amore impossibile, ma episodi e personaggi ( resistenza compresa) sono aggiunti. Però è molto curata l' ambientazione, l' atmosfera.
@@carlottaspalazzi6747Il racconto ( è un lungo racconto) ha un taglio notevole dal punto di vista etico, morale perché spiega bene l' atteggiamento dell' ufficiale , il suo essere tedesco ma " diverso"; egli ama nella ragazza francese la sua stessa dirittura. Il film mette in primo piano l' aspetto romantico della vicenda.
Thomas JOUANETTE is a SWISS ACTOR born in Geneva. AS Captain Wener Erbrennach, he's very neat, very polite, always acknowledging your presence with a greeting or a slight bow in the head, that's what makes him different from all other men, the impeccable manner!!!! I fell in love with him, my imaginary GENTLEMAN of affection, for eternity.
A great movie, great adaptation, great acting, so much in depth and so powerful, not like many other ask for a second part, no, I don't want, I don't see any other of this kind will possibly go beyond.
Да я присоединяюсь к комментам, отличный фильм, очень переживала за героев в фильме, ни разу не коснулись друг друга, ни одно слово не сказали, любовь взглядами
That's the kind of love a woman can wish for. Restrained, timid, the desire is kept to herself, feigning.her affection, till, ADIEU, FARREWEL. The love is locked in.the heart. It stays forever. AT the end the truth.was.unfold to Werner, he was loved, passionately, only in silence
La diferencia políticas entre los dos país fue lo que no permitió que está hermosa pareja expresa plenamente todos sus sentimientos y vivir ese amor tan puro y tan sincero tan bonito que los dos sentían mutuamente
Trop tard, pas de suite, ça a été tourné en 2004, les acteurs ont bien vieilli. Mais surtout, je crois que ce serait une trahison de l'auteur résistant Vercors, qui est tout de même un trésor national pour les Français.
All is fair in Love and War. They should have crossed the line and talked and held each other, and what happened would have happened when no one was around. My feeling is if they survived the war they would be together. That kind of love cannot be denied.
They could have at least kissed each other in secret! At least once! Probably there were many times that Jeanne's grandfather was away from home and Werner could have kissed Jeanne. Like the time that the Grandfather was away for Christmas eve and Werner returned earlier than Jeanne's grandfather. They had an opportunity there! Thay could have been cold towards each other in public,but in private different. I don't think that Jeanne's grandfather was at home all the time, remember he had a friend named fernand. And Jeanne doesn't really have friends, so she had more privacy. Jeanne lives in a big Chateau,in a house away from other houses,there's less opportunities for gossipy neighbors because of the distance and location of the house.
@@Skyblue-fw5rm I don't think Jeanne was capable to cross the "enemy" barrier, she was bent on treating Werner as an Enemy. That is also due to the programming, for many years leading up to the Great War, the French propaganda also whipped up hostility and nationalism just like the German Propaganda that deceived Werner about the cooperation between Germany and France. Jeanne was too young to understand that there is the war out side the home, there is also a private world inside the home. Even the old grandfather did not have the wisdom to say: "Jeanne, the war will not last forever, one day, peace will return..." Of course, the script was written in such way so that the movie still hews to the original book which is a piece of Resistance Propaganda------Resist passively, by not speaking to the enemy. The view of the Enemy was very stark in the book, anyone who wears the Wehrmacht uniform is an enemy. Of course, many French men and women ignored this, and had social and business relationships with the Germans, some paid a heavy price when the Germans were defeated. I wish Jeanne could have some joy and happiness in private with Werner, they could be so so happy in a very bleak time....
@@Skyblue-fw5rmЖанна вихована в повазі до себе самої та до людей. Рано осиротівши, швидко стала дорослою. Закохавшись у Вернера, боялася свого почуття. Дідусь першим помітив зміни в ній, хоча нічого не сказав. Вона вперше зустріла такого чоловіка- гарного, високоосвіченого, тактовного, але ворога. У цьому трагедія їхнього кохання. Прекрасні душі двох молодих людей приречені на розлуку без надії на зустріч. І, можливо, -на життя. Війни пожирають найкращих. Нехай будуть прокляті, хто їх розв'язує
C est un superbe film 📽.. Dommage qu il n y a pas une suite car ils auraient pu ce retrouver après la guerre.. ☺️ Comme ça été pour certains.. ☺️ Leurs Amour est si pur, un respect de l'un envers l'autre.. Magnifique
He decides to go to Russia because he is not a nazi, and understands what Germany has become. And 🥺 probably he is married or engaged, He respects both women ... we dont know 🥺 In the movie version everything is different. 💖 This is much better
Vers cheyenne ..peut etre un autre maitre en scene voudra continuer l istoire a un autre film,. Helene ( excusez moi pour la langue, je ne suis pas fransaise )
@anasan00 I don't think.he is married. He will begin right at that night in Russian frontlines, expecting it could be death. If he is married,,, he would ,have requested a visit to his family first. He is CAPTAIN of the Wehrmacht, but.with a good heart, unlike most of Nazi fanatics. All working for Adolf Hitler were Nazis. Nazism was an ideology. Wether you're in the Wehrmacht, Luftwaffe or SS (Schutzstaffel).
I would love to see a follow upstairs of this movie, after the war is over that he somehow survives and makes his way back to see if he can find her again..same actors.. definitely Thomas jouannet and same girl. Wouldn't than be wonderful.💕💕
Because the original book was a piece of Resistance propaganda, the character Jeanne and her Grandpa don't have a choice, they were WRITTEN to resist Captain von Ebrennac. Cannot be any other way. Though I'd like to see them having some joy and declare their love for each other in the privacy of Jeanne's house, that would have to be another story like the film "The Exception", or the "Black Book".
We can all see how terribly wrong things have gotten, when young people can not express their love for each other. I hope the French people are coming to terms with the war years and forgive and let go, i see lots of anger in comments about the "Horizontal Collaboration" of French women who had relationships with German soldiers, or not. I can not believe how much hate some people still bear towards those women still in this day. I wonder how this film was received by the French general public in 2004 or today.
Le drame de ce téléfilm, c'est qu'il est certes très beau, mais rend peu justice à l'auteur de la nouvelle, car la majorité des spectateurs ne voient que sa partie romantique. L'auteur, Vercors, résistant, a essentiellement écrit un texte de résistance. Certes il y avait dans son œuvre une touche de romance, mais ce n'était pas le message prépondérant. C'était une nouvelle clandestine, destinée à sensibiliser ses compatriotes à la résistance passive - lorsqu'il l'a écrite en 1941. Évidemment, hormis cette précision, c'est un très beau film, servi par d'excellents acteurs, 1ers et 2nd rôles. Mais j'aimerais que les spectateurs prennent le temps de lire la nouvelle et également la préface introductrice (Livre de poche) qui montre la genèse de la nouvelle en éclairant bien le contexte. La première fois que j'ai vu ce téléfilm, moi qui connaissais bien la nouvelle, j'ai été très déçu et j'ai crié à la trahison ! Ensuite, je l'ai revu pour lui-même en essayant de me détacher de Vercors et j'ai adoré.
After he found out she went into his room, he came to the fishing port, hoping to get some reaction from her. But she gave him nothing. Both know they can’t cross the line
Isn't that supposed to be after some time has passed? Her cousin talks about spring coming. December 26 would be a bit premature to be talking about that.
I am so in love with this film. Her subtle glances and controlled inaction in his presence was perfect. He tries hard to humanize himself but in the end resolved that it will never be. Heart warming love story, a little disappointed that he was a Nazi. But I guess it would not have worked out so well any other way.
Actually, he talked and walked his way into her heart, by smothering her with his action of kindness. Helping the little boy, offering her a ride, talking about his love for French literature, music, and his love for the Silence of the Sea! He saved her from the sexual assault from her cousin, played her the "most beautiful, purest, and his favorite piece the Prelude", she played that piece when he first arrived at their house. He even remembered where she stopped in that piece. His playing that piece on Christmas eve was like an offering of the purity, and sincerity of his love to her. When he left for the party at the Command Center, she was disappointed and went to his room to sniff his scarf and lie in his bed.... l love that he figured out that she was in his room lol. But sad she wouldn't talk to him when he went to the fishing shack to talk to her. Life is sweet irony, she only end up going home be assaulted by her cousin. Thank god, Werner arrives to thwart the sexual assault with his "mild death stare", only time i saw Werner fires up his emotion. Though the mild death stare was enough to chase the cousin away. Jeanne was probably too humiliated to thank Werner for saving her honor (I know, old fashioned way of saying it). We only begin to talk about sexual assault openly, god knows how frequent it happens, to women, and children, often by family members or friends. Jeanne repays Werner by saving his life.....This is soul level stuff!! wow, this story is amazing.
Le drame de ce téléfilm, c'est qu'il est certes très beau, mais rend peu justice à l'auteur de la nouvelle, car la majorité des spectateurs ne voient que sa partie romantique. L'auteur, Vercors, résistant, a essentiellement écrit un texte de résistance. Certes il y avait dans son œuvre une touche de romance, mais ce n'était pas le message prépondérant. C'était une nouvelle clandestine, destinée à sensibiliser ses compatriotes à la résistance passive - lorsqu'il l'a écrite en 1941. Évidemment, hormis cette précision, c'est un très beau film, servi par d'excellents acteurs, 1ers et 2nd rôles. Mais j'aimerais que les spectateurs prennent le temps de lire la nouvelle et également la préface introductrice (Livre de poche) qui montre la genèse de la nouvelle en éclairant bien le contexte. La première fois que j'ai vu ce téléfilm, moi qui connaissais bien la nouvelle, j'ai été très déçu et j'ai crié à la trahison ! Ensuite, je l'ai revu pour lui-même en essayant de me détacher de Vercors et j'ai adoré.
C'est bizarre car quand j'ai lu la nouvelle je voyais à la fois la partie résistance mais également l'espèce de tension romantique sous -jacente qui m'avait énormément émue. Je pense que les auteurs de ce magnifique téléfilm ont senti également la même chose.
@@melissacourchesne2121 Oui, certes, il y a les deux, mais je ne pense pas que c'était l'intention première de l'auteur, patriote et résistant. D'ailleurs pour comprendre la nouvelle, il faut lire l'ensemble des nouvelles, qui forment un tout. La plupart des gens ne le font pas. On trouve une situation assez équivalente dans "Suite française" d'Irène Némirovsky (livre et film), où les hommes jeunes étant prisonniers... il ne restait que les Allemands...
Similar to a movie cslled The Pianist which takes place during the Nazi occupation in Poland where the main character plays piano in hiding in the Polish underground. Eventuaaly a Nazi catches him but doesn't do anything but stands and listens showing that music is indeed international and transcends all races and situations even war. Ironic juxtaposition.
Есть фильмы, тоорые просто напрашиваются на продолжение фильма, так сроднишься с героями во время просмотра, что начинаешь фонтазировать дальше , то считаю , что действительно, по мнению зрителей, если испытываешь чувство неудовлетворённости с завершением рассказа, значит есть спрос на продолжение, война шла пять лет, каждый герой испытывал тяжбу войны по отдельности, что стало, если остались живы, искали ли они друг друга, или судьба свела их на встречу, как сложилась жизнь вместе или в рознь, вспоминали ли они друг друга, как мальчик вырос.... Неужели книга закончилась воспоминанием о молчаливой любви... Экранизация иногда в художественном фильме выходит из ограничения... не документальный же, ограничиватся основой.... Сотни фильмов просмотрели мы за свою жизнь, но один из них всегда лидирует.. творческие специалисты должны подумать над этим... киноискусство- достояние народа, вот покажите себя...
From the commentary I read, some says she intentionally stuck a fish into his hand, I can't find it from clips here explicitly, might have found from other unedited TV part, but something obviously happen before his hand stop moving. Very much detailed work makes this film magnificent, it raises the original novel to another level.
@HN C you watch the song " if you go away" by Terry Jacks made on the dock clip only and it's made slower version too. You might be able to catch it there.
@@SG-wq4rm Thank you, it helps. It seems more to me that she brushes his helping hand away instead of sticking a fish into his hand, whatever the scene is, obviously their hands are talking, very subtle, very enchanting expression. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fKyQH4l82Z8.html
It can not end that way because the book was a piece of propaganda for Résistance. The French public opinion (still programmed to hate the German occupation) would not have it. Just as the film was written, it met heavy criticism, the opinion makers hate how the film portrayed Werner with nuance and humanity. That was 2004, this year is 2024-80th anniversary of DDay. Let’s see what films are compared no out to commemorate.
@bjoy20101 The ending.is reality. Don't forget, that it's tradition in Werner's family to serve the country. The war.hasn't end, Germany was losing.the war, Werner volunteered to be in Russian Frontlines, he's expecting death. The army can't stand it anymore, temperature is minus or below zero degrees.
Her defensiveness gave her away and validated what he suspected. . It's kind of cute and funny. His frustration at the situation that a man who is permitted to talk to her, tries to rape her. Whereas he cares for her and has to suppress his feelings. He can't express his need to comfort her. Was always surprised that he didnt have Pascal arrested. That's who I initially thought was taken by the police, not the resistance guy.
That guy was the one who put the explosive to the car. she always felt scare to that guy who said cousin., the feeling not knowing how she is and him. Is so difficult to keep inside.😢😢😢
this part am really enjoying her look because he knew she was in the room. and she was a bit scared. then the stupid guy want to get on to her. the good thing he arrived. then want to talk to her , but it didn't
@@user-yn3nu2ie3y да, и когда в комнате побывала и письмо прочитала,и избегала и не разговаривала с ним. Конечно, он все понял.Он даже понял, почему она не может говорить с ним, т.к он враг.Тяжелый случай, конечно.
We don't change the story,, it is how it is, Perfection. It's war! He is a Wehrmacht Officer lodging in their house She and her Grandfather and circle of Friends in the ",RESISTANCE" fighting the Germans Occupier, all.they can have is a Silent feeling for each other, and nothing more. The Capitain knows that himself, that's why he's not making advances, just courtesy and politeness.
Maybe it's wrong for me to say this. But I would have liked to see Werner really drunk after the komandantur party(it would be funny to see him drunk,since he is so prim and proper).😀 What would a drunk Werner have said to Jeanne? Maybe Werner would have told her right and then everything he feels for her or he would have kissed her. He was drinking a little and maybe that gave him courage to try to open her door. Maybe it's a cultural thing the fact that Werner isn't open about his feelings. I don't like Pascal,he is sleazy,but at least he is straightforward about the fact that he likes Jeanne.
@ Amy M Aren't we are wild with our imagination. This movie tells us seize the moment. I am never going to get over this movie. It shall stay within me forever ❤️
@@tingtingli If I was her, I wouldn't talk to him either.... Ever. He's our enemy. They invaded our country and our homes. Him walking around our house like a free man., very offensive to me. I think he's truly a gentleman. I am fighting with my own thoughts.
Brilliant scene, just brilliant. Pascal covets Jeannie, he is opsessed with her, and can't handle it when she keeps refusing his advances. He has a nasty streak, which he hides well, until he thinks she has someone else, and then the jealousy erupts, and he is determined to have her first. But... Along comes Werner, who knows how pure and innocent she is, but can control himself. When he opens that door, and sees her distress, it gives him all he can muster not to kill pascal there and then. He can't, because it would lead to complete cayos, for him, for Jeanie, for the grandad. His anger, though controlled, bothers him, because now he knows this drive to protect her, proves to himself, he has fallen in love with her. He won't make a move on her, he wants her to make the move, so she feels safe, and in control, and there is no doubt in her mind, that he is who she wants. Pascal is just a pup, who needs a few lessons in how to behave,
@Emma Barr OMG I just found this movie and watched it {English subtitles- loved it! wow!!!!!!!!!!!}. To answer your question- when she sees him at the dock- standing there- she knew exactly that he knew she was in the room! She just played it off as nothing, never showing the slightest expression/emotion.
@@justmyopinion5099 She regretted not talking to him when he left abruptly for the Russian Front. The tears streaming down her face, she was utterly heart broken. This is how young people get played by propaganda, and sacrifice their precious love. She did not have the foresight that one day the war will end, peace will return, that they can love openly. Then again, this book was a Resistance propaganda. Even 60 years later, the 2004 film's director and script writer knew they could not deviated from that one over riding principle. Jeanne and her Grandpa must not compromise. But they did each say one word to him at the last goodbye. I think the film has done an outstanding job showing us how cruel and inhumane war is.
@@anasan00 That letter was from his mother, or maybe a girl friend, he obviously did not show any delight upon receiving it. I believe that is is reason why he showed up at the fishing shack to explain to her. Esa carta era de su madre, o tal vez de una amiga, obviamente mostró algún placer al recibirla. Creo que esa es la razón por la que se presentó en la choza de pesca para explicarle.
Bisogna leggere il racconto di Vercors; e guardare il film di Melville, molto fedele al testo. Questo film è più romantico, una libera interpretazione del racconto.
He is frustrated that her fellow French man (Pascal) is allowed to enter her home and attempt to assault her (she was lucky Werner interrupted the attempt and saves her from the assault), yet, he, Werner can not expect a spoken word from her despite his love and respect for her, because he was the enemy occupier.
@@vivianedelage2504 À cette époque, par rapport à la nôtre, le collectif primait sur l'individu. Il suffit d'entendre Hubert Germain, dernier compagnon de la libération décédé récemment, témoignant devant Macron : "nous ne pensions qu'à nos devoirs, jamais à nos droits". Quelque chose dans le genre.
@@fincivilisation4645 That was very moving, but the individual rights are just as important and sacred as the collective, don't you think? The individual and the collective are symbiotic, a collective that demands such sacrifice of the individual will only compound the collective trauma.
We're trying our best to get either the movie or DVD in English or even French with english subtitles with out success, nice movie, please can anybody help. 😘 🇬🇧
@lisbetse286 Hey! :) To be honest, I don't even know if that exists. I, myself, would love to find this movie with English subtitles and show it to my family 'cause they don't speak French, but I don't think it's doable. I know for sure that there is a DVD, but I'm not sure if they included/did any subtitles. Are there any scenes in particular that are of interest to you? I can translate them for you as soon as I have more time.
Elle est la seule a avoir aimer jusqu a a sauver la vie de werner..il etait peut etre deja marie..il est parti pour ne Sauter en l air comme les autres officiers et plus encore parceque il ne pouvait pas se refuser
I think, he wanted to tell her that he loves her (he said "je voulais vous dire quelque chose. Je..." and then was interrupted. I think he wanted to say "je vous aime") and then explain that the other woman meant nothing to him (she was the woman his family wanted him to marry but they were not engaged).
I think he wanted to tell her that he loved her. And then explain that the other woman meant nothing to him (she was the one his family wanted him to marry but they were not engaged).
There are few mistakes...When did she turn the light off?He said before playing piano that he had been there for 3 months.From November to December 3 months?
@@SG-wq4rm even he loves her, but he can do nothing, he is not her boyfriend, he is only a soldier of French enemy , that’s why he is angry, he is angry that nothing he can do!
Наталия Леонова Togda bylo takoje mnenyje, cto esli tebja posylajut v Rossyju, togda zyvym ne vozvratitsja. Ja zyvu mnogo let v Germanyji. Vo Francyji na vojne dlja nemcev kak kanikuly byli, esli sravnit s Rossijej. Ja sama iz za filmov o vojne ocen bojalas nemcev v detstve, a sejcas ljublu odnogo nemca.... ocen daze...
J'imagine qu'il voulait lui dire "je vous aime". Et puis lui expliquer que l'autre femme n'était pas sa fiancée, qu'il ne tenait pas à elle mais que sa famille souhaitait qu'ils se marient.
From the commentary I read, it's a letter from his fiancee, their relationship turns stale, and he weights his fiancee less, judging by the casual way he leaves the letter on the table. Might be details from original TV release.
@JDlamusique -Why he was upset with her after the asault from Pascal.....scene after the pier? -Why he was holding her parents picture and what he wanted to say to her? -Whose picture was it in the envelope? - Do you think he purposely got her bike stolen so that she had to take ride from him? ( That was speculation in the other thread)
