League of ADCs, Champ Design & Aurora with Riot Lexical | The Dive Driven by Kia

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Hello and welcome back to another episode of The Dive Driven by Kia! Kobe, Azael, and Meteos give a quick recap of Week 3. Then, Riot Lexical from the Champions Team joins to talk shop about developing, designing, and playing champions.
If you’re looking for a deep dive on Aurora and insights on champion design and development, this episode is for you!
Check out the video referenced in this episode, where Meteos and other LCS pros playtested Aurora: • LCS Pros First Look at...
The LCS will be back on July 20th but The Dive will have episodes before then. Stay tuned, and thanks for listening!
Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro, FLY demolishes DIG, DIVE schedule lookahead
5:30 - SR is looking doomed
13:57 - 100 vs TL, Impact MasterClass
21:50 - League of ADCs
28:52 - Quick break, then intro Riot Lexical - Welcome Lexi!
30:01 - What was the main goal with Aurora?
31:20 - What’s working now with Aurora that didn’t in the past?
37:00 - Lexi’s convo with Bwipo about Aurora
38:20 - Do Devs intentionally make champs OP upon release?
43:41 - Designing champs for Pro play vs average play
48:38 - Tips on playing Aurora generally/to get wins
53:13 - How do you decide a champ is going to be AP or AD?
58:28 - Aurora kit personality & who is she?
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15 июл 2024

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@quinnreed3324 14 дней назад

My man says they haven't even won a lane 😂

@tealover7058 12 дней назад

Meteos is too funny

@johnjackson8166 14 дней назад

lmao Kobe made me double check the date for a second there

@proctathon 14 дней назад

You're not alone! Lol

@leorikh 14 дней назад

Long time LEC fan here and occasional LCS watcher: you guys are rocking the podcast game. Adding Meteos was such a win, and I feel like having meteos there with two former esports pros but casters now adds so much to it. I actually look forward to the dive now every week, something that wasn’t the case before. Congrats!

@daandepauw5252 13 дней назад

Agreed, much better than Euphoria imo. Drakos shouldn't be on the cast, he might be a good host and talker but he is a play by play caster, i probably know more about the game and how teams are playing than he is.

@pie1pie2pie3pie4 10 дней назад

Thanks for the nice message:) After watching MSI this year, I started to notice how good the LEC casting is. Casters really get into the details of the each match, making engaging to watch. And the humour is great as well.

@Shinigasumi 7 дней назад

Meteos always makes this stuff better - he has insane game knowledge and, imo, is the top jungler NA has ever produced, and was in the scene for a long time and still is active and regarded in the scene. I'm glad they added him, too.

@taospow 14 дней назад

Thank you, Kobe for letting me know I will be watching an episode of The Dive this morning, on July 2nd.. which is this morning.

@Guildelin 14 дней назад

What we have done without him sharing such informative information.

@blueleaftuber 13 дней назад

Hello Azael I am honored to be here watching this video on July 2nd that will be released on July 2nd. I can't wait for it to come out 3 hours ago

@connordeyoung6108 13 дней назад

Really feels like Meteos is starting to get really comfortable in the podcast, really cool to see!

@chamway3472 12 дней назад

Yeah it's nice seeing him grow out of his shell! I'm sure it's not as easy as you think!

@ceomusic7 12 дней назад

@@chamway3472okay meteos I see you on your alt account

@WaterOnADuck 12 дней назад

@@ceomusic7😂😂

@nora-ng2ro 14 дней назад

kobe will always be one of my favorite people in the scene lmao

@CossacksLoL 13 дней назад

Kobe is one of the GOATs of League (not as a player, he was ok, but as an entertainer he is one of my favorites)

@Skylark0000 12 дней назад

@@CossacksLoL He's like the flavor of caster that just works with any partner. He brings so much excitement and love for the game it's great.

@manashieldmedia 9 дней назад

Legitimately a GOAT. Deman/Deficio/Quickshot/Joe Miller/Monte/Doa as well.

@eargandonaa 13 дней назад

Great episode. I just hate that we are going to a long break this early.....Keep inviting the people that work on the new champs, its so great to hear the background stories🤗

@TheFoxStalksHisPrey 13 дней назад

The lighting of this episode is phenomenal!

@SerYordles 14 дней назад

It was indeed July 2nd when i watched this! Thank you Kobe!

@Khalolz 13 дней назад

Really loved the convo with Lexical, you can truly hear how much love and care she and the devs have for these champs and that's really great to hear :)

@PhoenixAgent003 13 дней назад

When Kobe said the next release was going to be July 2nd, I checked the calendar, and was briefly excited by the idea that there was another Dive episode waiting for me when I finished this one.

@user-wi1nq9ew4h 13 дней назад

When does today's DIVE episode come out??? The journey of anticipation here is killing me...

@Razleplasm 13 дней назад

Thank you Kobe for reminding me that this episode of The Dive has just aired!

@slappindaddy 13 дней назад

Super cool to have Lexi on there. I had never thought of champions as anything more than how they looked and their kits. It's nice to have the perspective of someone creating these champions and hearing about all the thought that goes into them.

@mixolot707 14 дней назад

I think the segment with Lexical is my favorite segment of any League content in recent memory. It's so awesome to actually get to hear the thought process, motivation and decision making behind the design and initial balancing of a new champion. Lexical also explained the HELL out of it so kudos.

@clusterrockets 13 дней назад

You can go watch phreak does it every 2 weeks then

@connordeyoung6108 13 дней назад

@@clusterrockets Yeah very true but this one is def a bit different than Phreak's. Phreaks is amazing and super informative but def more numbers and balance based than this segment. Both are dope tho

@safetoo2000 13 дней назад

@@connordeyoung6108 you just wanted to meet Aurora irl ig

@SteefPip 13 дней назад

You could tell that she was trying really hard to not admit that they intentionally make champs op at the start so they will sell it, they can't have her come out and openly say it but we all know it's how it is.

@daandepauw5252 13 дней назад

@@SteefPip Ah yes, for the three people that buy champions with RP...

@Khalolz 13 дней назад

You guys, I hear The Dive is airing this Tuesday don't forget!!

@alexfulmer350 13 дней назад

Thank you for mentioning my birthday so much , July 2nd. I am in fact watching this video on July 2nd

@timinserra 13 дней назад

Life before Death, Strength before Weakness and Journey before Destination. These words are accepted. Meteos is a Brandon Sanderson fan confirmed. 👍

@jdog8701 13 дней назад

Im so happy to know that the next episode of the dive will be today July 2nd LOL

@crazykillerpanda101 14 дней назад

The dive makes me want to buy a fleet of KIAs

@WaterOnADuck 12 дней назад

Nice try KIA

@Jagshockey15 13 дней назад

This episode is currently out. Just so you guys know. its out today guys. new dive episode comes out today.

@dojadoug 13 дней назад

About new champs "being OP" - What we really mean is that they are OP once a player gets a certain amount of champ mastery. But they usually are quite bad for a player who has 10 or fewer games. Maybe 20 or fewer games. And Phreak has talked to this point: He would rather sometimes you lose because an enemy player is really good at the champ than you losing because your teammate picks it and its too weak in the hands of a player learning the champ.

@gregpartridge7554 4 дня назад

As long as that's their design philosophy, I'm going to keep banning the new champ, especially if I'm playing ranked. It's one thing to lose because you or your teammate gets outplayed, but it's no fun when you play well but still lose because the enemy has a champ with no weaknesses. You can always practice a new champ in bots/customs before terrorizing your opponents or teammates with it, it's not a good excuse to overtune it.

@Maxxis751 11 дней назад

Great episode and a nice mix of LCS with talking about the new champ as well

@nathanieltownsend1487 13 дней назад

I love azeal jacket… looking clean

@WhittleDragon 13 дней назад

Viewer question of the day, why the fuck isn’t there a This or That? I’ve really beeen missing it and thought it was one of the most successful forms of content.

@Storm411z 13 дней назад

I miss hearing the intro music for it

@crenshaw8 13 дней назад

Right???

@lPuffalo 14 дней назад

Morde has been picked in most regions as a skarner counter. The reason its taken is, 1) favorable matchup post 1 item. 2) Shadow realm hard counters skarner ult and to some extent his E. You can ult the skarner as soon as he grabs a team mate to stop skarner from dragging ur ally out of place. 3) Mord brings AP damage to comps with AD jungle and mid.

@TheAcidJazzSituation 13 дней назад

It's great having so many passionate people in the process.

@bradclarke7874 13 дней назад

Can confirm today is July 2nd. Thanks Kobe.

@jeremeyshriner7764 13 дней назад

When they say that Aurora will appeal to the Ahri and Neko player base, I think for us top layers it will appeal to the Gnar players too with the three hit passive.

@Hotsauce0811 13 дней назад

The Dive with another goated episode 🔥

@DBasedAlex 13 дней назад

Imagine my surprise when I found out today was July 2nd

@diaperamess 13 дней назад

Take a shot every time they say rough😂

@HerbertDarewood 13 дней назад

All I could think of was tropic thunder. Lady was getting ready to play simple jack.

@antonblenck1144 13 дней назад

This podcast has become a jungle echo chamber

@connordeyoung6108 13 дней назад

We got another Kia add 😤, we love investment of good content

@puig031 13 дней назад

Can confirm it's July 2nd today

@cfrydlewicz 12 дней назад

"It's hard to pick an AP champion with no CC" "We wanted people who like these other champs to like this one" (lists only champs with CC)

@MacDaAce 13 дней назад

I think we NEED a second round of series, I know that comes with a bunch of expensive issues especially for the broadcast. But in the name of competition, it would be so much better with a second round.

@eliglickman7039 14 дней назад

Great podcast appreciate Lexi for getting on an episode to talk it out and Kobe for reminding me what day it is!

@kingquesoIV 11 дней назад

That DIG series was jungle diff. Spica totally blew that gank bot. If he waited for adc to clear wave and then gank it woulda been a much better play. FLY had no clue that spica was there. He just had to exercise some patience. Its such a fundamental concept to never engage on a wave pushing into you. After that gank fails, they lose so many minions that its over

@Balrong_ 12 дней назад

Hello friends and companions, now with the union of LCS+CBLOL next year, could you put subtitles in Portuguese on your specifics so that we Brazilians can follow you too.

@a_shadykridara4396 13 дней назад

With Corki in particular, I feel as though a lot of the reason he rushes defensive boots is due to Jack of All Trades, With D-Blade + Defensive boots he immediately gains access to the first part of Jack of All Trades which gives him a nice, easily achievable item spike while also allowing him to sit safe in his lane. If jack of all trades doesn't exist, it would likely feel substantially worse for him to rush defensive boots over grabbing some early ad and boots 1 for instance.

@WaterOnADuck 12 дней назад

54:02 cameraman fail 😂

@ShyGuySpirit 13 дней назад

Just waiting for them to release Cithria as a champion. One day.

@rl-pavel 13 дней назад

Wtf I'm watching this the morning of July 3, why would you lie to us Kobe

@bigdamij 13 дней назад

Checks calendar.... it is indeed 7/2/2024

@dcxserf1827 13 дней назад

I like the idea of having devs on the show sometimes. Lexi and Phreak were very enjoyable

@bzejamster8452 14 дней назад

Cat4kobe

@switchbackk8823 13 дней назад

can confirm its july 2nd and global warming is not solved @kobe

@deanapplegate5750 13 дней назад

4:53 “have we solved global warming?” *earliest cat five Hurricane in history* No Kobe, no we haven’t.

@jiboodie5344 12 дней назад

Azael looks like the CEO of LA Crips INC.

@WaterOnADuck 12 дней назад

Lexical was in charge of riots most embarrassing VGUs.. and failures of all time .. skarner. I have zero trust in her abilities tbh I’m ngl

@nhart4325 8 дней назад

I love Kobe

@marianeptune7321 13 дней назад

speak for yourself meteos i want a bunny girl malphite ulting me

@jcprs69 14 дней назад

4:50 "Hello July 2nd people, have we solved global warming yet?" No but we managed to dismantle democracy, so there's that.

@doing63 13 дней назад

cool

@LargeMcBottoms 14 дней назад

People just like to complain. People were mad the game was "spam gank, no farm, reee"

@BirryZzz 10 дней назад

❤

@LGNDARYAssassin 7 дней назад

How you fix adc's everywhere is by buffing ap champs.... give ap champs ap per level scaling

@Lana-rs2oi 13 дней назад

"Tristana has a very high winrate in soloQ, so they could just nerf her" >She has a 50% winrate, Azael. That's not high. Her winrate goes up to 51% in very high elo and that's it. Straight up nerfing her would make her unplayable in the botlane, where she's already not picked.

@JTHousek 13 дней назад

I love Riot Lexical so much, she is so sweet and knowledgeable. Love you guys interviewing her!

@marycoffelt3041 13 дней назад

As old as time: Ap champs r 4 gurlz Ad champs r 4 boyz

@yuukifenia1611 13 дней назад

I dunno Xayah, Kaisa, Cait, Sett have a lot of female players and Seraphine, Nidalee, Akali, Sylas have a lot of male players, I think it's more kit design than AP or AD personally

@OneWingedRose 13 дней назад

Isn't the simple answer for "adcs are too strong" to do it the Simpsons way? "We're flooded with Adcs!" "Bring in the Assassins." "We're flooded with Assassins!" "Bring in the Bruisers." Not a permanent fix but a fun rotating buffing one maybe, bring on the age of Assassins!

@galio2012 14 дней назад

Why do we have these long breaks so often now? I don't remember this happening so frequently.

@markstenquist2315 13 дней назад

Esports world cup is happening in Saudi Arabia and our teams will need a break afterward.

@Storm411z 13 дней назад

Also sharing the Riot venue with Valerant

@szabel. 13 дней назад

54:02 lol stone cold

@Tanktaco День назад

Dev

@titan2244 13 дней назад

Easy fix to AD mids....make AP itemization better against tanks. The tanks are so good right now and they are so TANKY that it takes 2 adcs to chop them down. Also AP mages being in the jungle keeps them safer from assassin/adc picks played in mid.

@sladevalen2120 14 дней назад

The reason k sante is doing poorly is because of all the lane swapping shenanigans. Look at how several games this split he is still level 1 multiple minutes into the game. Any top lane champ would be useless in that scenario

@Jrobin96 13 дней назад

Hello, I am watching on July 2nd. I can confirm, we did not solve global warming

@wowJhil 13 дней назад

Awesome of Lexi to guest the show! Sure made this way more interesting!

@francescoriccobono5311 13 дней назад

did she say that aurira is autistic?

@Mo_Bhasin 12 дней назад

I watch content with meteos in it primarily, but it’s tiring to hear this narrative that adcs are broken. Just get a mid lanner on and have them tell you how miserable it is to play a mage mid rn. Esp in soloq. Outside of Leblanc game is just over before you can do anything as a control mage. Why would I want an ap mid when the ap jungle items are infinitely better?

@TheHelixworld 13 дней назад

As an autistic person I can say that for me that them making an autistic champion and the way that they talk about it is the most condescending shit I've ever heard, it sounded like an art critic talking about autism, it's not cute or cool, it's like being in a prison in your own mind...

@nufasniyamathulla6479 12 дней назад

Not autistic but I've always had the same thought. And its not just with this specific trait. Every time they try to force inclusiveness it comes off so fucking pretentious and condescending. They can easily incorporate several traits to champions and not explicitly label it as one trait, IMO that would be a lot more authentic, and I'm sure the player base with similar traits would appreciate and relate to it a lot more too. People are so complex. You don't go around making a single trait your whole personality. These inclusive characters more often than not are presented as if their whole persona revolves around having a specific trait.

@thomasrushin2529 10 дней назад

It's easier to pander than it is to write or design something well. It rarely works out. But it's easier.

@nufasniyamathulla6479 10 дней назад

@@thomasrushin2529 lol? What's so difficult about slapping labels on champions? "Oh let's make this champ autistic", "This champ is trans by the way" etc. That's not designing "well" that's just being lazy af about it. If they design something well they don't need to slap on the label in the first place. If they can't do that, at least stop with the fake labels with zero effort. Like with this champ for example: All their research on autism amounted to "yeah people on the spectrum need their space, that's why Aurora's ult is her slipping into this spirit realm" That's the best they could do with all their resources?

@DBasedAlex 12 дней назад

The public typically pushes back when games and movies incorporate characters with autism, but not in the league scene because more of the player base find it relatable

@RyanChamp69 12 дней назад

Why tf are they taking a month off mid split? They’ve only played like 10 games over 4 weeks lol. What a terrible waste of momentum from this splits new changes and b3st of 3s.

@Mo_Bhasin 12 дней назад

23:07 remove resolve from 2nd tree, make control mage items better. Why would I want an ap mid when the ap jg and adc items are so much more effective. Trist and Corki being mid lanner is good for the game. What is bad is that nothing else is an option. What is bad for the game is that control msged are just so bad rn. Game is decided before you have effective damage. Why are Sorc shoes so bad?

@benjaminkamp1375 13 дней назад

Champ designer not knowing if a champ will be frustrating in the unintended lane before release is a joke.

@garciavashchino1 13 дней назад

Lexical was awesome on the Dive!!! 1st off I love this Pcast... more special guests makes the show so thick with insight... I love love love it!!! Thank you guys and Lexical!!!

@user-kd7os7gh8j 13 дней назад

In the LCS straight up "getting it done quick". and by "it" well haha. lets justr say. losing

@nomismg 13 дней назад

Euhmm

@kingquesoIV 11 дней назад

wtf is azael wearing lmao

@DinoDisguised 13 дней назад

Shoutout to Lexical, that was some great insight!

@nik_ms 13 дней назад

The Lexical part was amazing, really liked this insight into the new champion and the development of champs overall, thanks for bringing good content!

@davidrogers6987 13 дней назад

just me or is Lexical's mannerisms similar to Spica.

@dookiehead-ll4jw 13 дней назад

Yeah her speech pattern is pretty much 1 to 1 compared to Spica

@BlackTecno2 14 дней назад

Everyone be scared of the tank meta, but no one talks about the marksman meta that's been going on since... (flips pages) 2010.

@SoFishtry 13 дней назад

Thanks so much for having Lexi on, she's phenomenal to listen to.

@jeff230394 8 дней назад

Shes just a bundle of hair lol

@atapama4304 6 дней назад

im a dragon

@rudedinosaur 14 дней назад

“Aurora is acoustic”….you coulda just said what you meant, “we wanted a champion that relates to the majority of the player base” 😂😂

@patrickgonzales347 14 дней назад

First

@derp-tiny 14 дней назад

First... to comment on your first. Boom got eem

@patrickgonzales347 14 дней назад

@derp-tiny By definition, that too is a victory. No victory goes uncherished!

@SteefPip 13 дней назад

OFC every champion is intended to be broken on release, that's how they sell you the champ.

@drogon4235 14 дней назад

I think Digs problem is coaching staff and Spica. What shitty ganks.

@TheNewdex 14 дней назад

man theres been like 3 sets let them cook

@paintl3gz 12 дней назад

Surprised the champ design team needed consultants for an autistic champion considering all the collective years of experience they would have

@andyhuynh2625 13 дней назад

A bunch of corporate language, dodging the questions, and being as convoluted as possible from her 😅

@jumpbc 14 дней назад

skipping another 30 seconds of the video, love to see it. ok that's a lie, piss off with the goddam preview

@ovs4744 13 дней назад

The 10 most recent champions have obnoxious/non-interactive/overpowered kits, have received many buffs and nerfs for over a year, or have such low playrate they don't even appear on stat tracking websites. But hey i guess the new champion they've been designing since 2017 is autistic and apparently the developers think this makes her more authentic for some reason... can't wait to never see this champ again after her few weeks of being broken in soloq

@steliosp1770 13 дней назад

no surprise when its people like this and august making champs and people like phreak balancing the game that the only champs release and viable are mages and adcs and fighters and assassins are unplayable. oh well at least elden ring dlc is out now so we dont have to play league or watch lolesports anymore.

@metalheadofmordor9169 13 дней назад

Representation is overrated. Stop it. Better areas to focus instead.

@connordeyoung6108 13 дней назад

Strong disagree, its so nice when you have a character you identify with. Makes the game WAY more fun to play a champ you vibe with

@WaffleKnight28 13 дней назад

It's a character backstory. How much money do you think it cost them to write a little story about the character? It takes up basically none of their resources.