Copyrighted by Television Jamaica 2016 My interview with veteran journalist in Jamaica, the late Ian Boyne, on why I left Seventh-day Adventism. Aired April 2016. #sda #adventistchurch #amazingfacts #sabbath #sunday
Now viewing . He is leaving every thing to follow his spiritual convictions.Oh what a Saul experience !He nows encounters the light of the Glorious Gospel
Please read Ephesians chapter 2 : 8 - 10 , and Revelation chapter 22 : 14 and don't you think GOD'S GRACE gives anybody licence to break the COMMANDMENTS OF GOD.
Joseph Essilfie lol...... please read...that is your argument? Its how your read the text that allows right dividing....2 tim 2:15 1)Are you under law Joseph? 2)What law are you under?
@@bop-ya-good You don't know what you are talking about. Do you know the Bible speaks about 2 set of Laws? THE LAW OF MOSES and THE LAW OF GOD. In the Law of Moses there are some law which has been done away with, the great number of them still remains,but all 10 of the Law of God still remains, this is what you don't know. When you see LAW in the Bible its not all talking about the 10 COMMANDMENTS, unless you know the difference you will think it is talking about the 10 COMMANDMENTS that's what those who don't know the Bible thinks. Please Google amazingfacts. org and read the booklets WHY THE OLD COVENANT FAILED and also FEAST DAYS AND SABBATHS and you will understand what I'm saying.
lol....So you know it all....well done. As an expert why not respond to my actual comment? 1)Are you under law Joseph? 2)What law are you under? This is the law. A contract. A covenant between Israel and God at the exclusion of all nations....Fact Deu 4:13 And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone. A law that had a Beginning and an end..... did you Know Joseph....but of course you must know as an authority on the subject.
Joseph Essilfie lol...so you dont have a Licence to sin Joseph. Do you sin without a license? I just know you are Born a sinner and die a sinner not because you have a licence but because of the one mans adam`s sin. You Know that right? The law does not give you strength to stop sin Bro....it increases transgressions! You gotta wrap your head around that fact. The spirit is what required ...not laws. So are you under obligation to keep Law or under the leading of the spirit Joseph?...You decide. Gal 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. I have made my choice.
*1 Thessalonians 5:19-21* Quench not the Spirit; despise not prophesyings; prove all things; hold fast that which is good; abstain from every form of evil.
Thank you for sharing your story. I was born in SDA, my whole family is still in there. God opened my eyes almost a year ago, and since then I enjoy studying the Bible and ONLY Bible. It is very sad how in SDA-ism the sabbath is more important than having Jesus. It’s very blasphemous, contradictory to the Bible, and I wonder how I have never seen that for 40 years living in SDA-ism. I pray my whole family will learn who the biblical Jesus is and what the true gospel is. 🙏🏻
Anne...God Himself wrote the ten commandments with His own finger twice in stone and their placement in the heavenly sanctuary are under God, on His throne in the mercy seat...
Yes, but it's more than that . Do you have a personal relationship with Jesus ? Have you repented of your sins and asked Jesus to be Lord and Savior of your life ? SDA'S have a false prophet . The Sunday law and investigative judgement are false teachings of EGW . There are no scriptures to support either one .
Keep coming up with wrong dates for second coming which is against the bible. No one knows the hour accept the father. Mathew 13:32, accept Hellen G White, false Prophetes
All I can say is HALLELUJAH HALLELUJAH HALLELUJAH. One thing is certain the Holy Spirit Is the proof one is sealed by God not the Sabbath. Jesus Christ paid it all in full for all of us. Indeed it is finish
And he was in the Adventist Church as SATAN'S Representative and so it seem fit for GOD to remove him from His True People. He thinks he left by his own free will, what he doesn't know is God pushed him out.
@@josephessilfie7777 Just like Adam when he sinned? Or does Calvinist breakdown in the first chapters of the word of God,? I will go with the latter. Only the SDA Church has the proper eschatology which will keep the elect from being decieved by the Antichrist and the church expecting a return if Jesus for a millennium on earth.
This was excellent my brother God bless you both! I appreciate the carefulness and thorough approach to answering what clearly are some hard matters of contention for the SDA church. I pray for revival to spring forth from these types of programs not only in your country but here in America and around the earth!
Mike fobfar Explain Hebrews 6:19,20, 9:12 to us please. Do you give thought to food "such as pork", drink "such as wine" dress "such as rings or jewelry"? Do you keep sabbath on the 7th day being the evening and morning? Does that involve a drive to church? If I worship the 1st day of the week am I in sin and breaking the 4th? Is it my condemnation aka mark of the beast to worship on sunday?
Mike Forfar I answered that question no. Should we answer all the questions at once. Why drag this on? They're simple, some are yes or no. Let me open, I'm sipping wine this very moment waiting to eat a turkey, bacon, avocado sanwich and tomorrow I'm driving 300 miles to visit in laws on your sabbath. Am I going to be annihlated? But answer all the questions not just this one. Did you find any day of atonment scriptures? Still waiting patiently.
@@rickhuntling7338 Rick.......what CONCRETE thinking u have The New Covenant IS The ATONEMENT manifested......See Heb 8 and 10.....U might as well shake hands with the Muslim who are constantly asking "where in the Bible does Jesus state that He is GOD"?.......The Word of God is just that....God who is Our Atonement......u need the Holy Spirit.....smh
I was born and raised in a SDA home. I was legalistic and judgmental of non SDA's. My beliefs began to change during my studies at an Adventist college. My Hebrew/Greek professor would often say, "There is no biblical basis for alot of things that we do." My brothers and sisters, we are saved by the Grace of Jesus Christ alone. I've studied the word and the Truth has set me FREE indeed. It's sad that people often times resort to insults when they're in disagreement about religous beliefs. May our love for Jesus be manifest through our interactions with all who who believe and who do not as well.
When you do some real heartfelt research on SDA, one cannot legitimately stay in Adventism. EG White was not a true prophet of God, even though there are those who will insist that she is despite God's mandate to "try the spirit by the spirit." They have discovered that she did a lot of plagiarizing; gave false utterances, and had another spirit operating in her life other than the Holy Spirit. I often wonder how the SDA could turn around if they threw out the damaging teachings of EGW and her influences on their doctrinal beliefs? When we are confronted with documented truth and the fullness of God's Word, we must make choices. It will come down to the choice: God or EG White! God's commands tell us "there shall be no other God before me." In other words, EG White cannot stand before God. Thunder made the choice, it was going to be God and not just what the church teaches. Bravo!!!
Don't worry about Mrs white, worry about ur self, Mrs white is dead, she is resting till god comes, u r still here and has to face life and what it has to offer, worry about god and ur salvation, not about others.
Kelley what liars u and Elce are.............u DO NOT know JESUS........u DO NOT know the Word of God........U DO NOT KNOW what the New Covenant or the Gospel of Jesus is...........u r stuck at the cross with Roman Catholic doctrine whereas JESUS invites u into The Most Holy with His anointing blood so that He may BLOT out ur transgressions.........and TRANSFORM u into His Character of Love.............Elce and ALL u Sunday keeping "Christians"have been influenced by COUNTER REFORMATION lies..........study prayerfully please b/f spreading ur lies b/c JESUS will say to u "thus far and no further". SDA'sts are proclaiming GODS End Time Message of Mercy (JESUS.......His Death, Life AND HIGH PRIESTLY HEAVENLY MINISTRY. on behalf of humanity............The New Covenant........and u and Elce are stumbling blocks, influenced by POPERY.........and POPERY is commanded by SATAN............so what does that make u and Elce?......study prayerfully please.
Mariorie dow Worry about your SELF, not about others. You do have a different JESUS then the one in my bible. Ellen G White is awake on the rich man's side of hell waiting to swim in the lake of fire after the real great white throne judgement. I fear you will be belly flopping in behind her.
I left because I couldn't accept Adventism... These evil ones would hate this man leaving so well done.. Join FAF kid and don't you dare give in to Adventism!!!!
I have made a visit to several churches: Catholic, Lutheran, Pentecostal churches and Adventists. I think, of all the churches, SDAs are uplifting and emberace the Gospel of Jesus. I have noted that some are leaving the church because of their personal issues but they pretend to attach the teachings of that church.
Amen!! You are spot-on! That is exactly right. And many of these responding to comments made are not looking for truth. They just want to deceive and find fault. But in the end, when it will be too late, they will have to admit the truth and bow to Jesus, that He was right all along.
I think they misunderstood what Adventism was.Don't they know that Adventism comes from the word ADVENTUM.Meaning anyone Waiting for the Second Coming of The Lord Jesus Christ.You left The Adventist and embrace the Gospel but you're still an Adventist as long as you're also waiting for the second coming of Christ..Got It?
God keep you dear brother. Follow no man made religions or men, except the man, Jesus Christ. He told us that the Holy Spirit would show us ALL things...and He did, has and will until His return!
I congratulate Elce for leaving the cultic doctrine of Adventism. Like you many who of us came from Adventism, myself included of 25 years were hardcore Adventists that would defend the beliefs of the religion based on Ellen G White. The only way one can come out of the prison house of Adventism is through Revelation that comes alone from the Holy Spirit of the precious Gospel of Christ (1 Cor 15:1-4). Welcome to the Body of Christ in this final Church Age before the rapture of His Bride.
Noa Aiolupotea the movement is not a cult. Jesus said many will fall away from the faith but many will return through the help of the Holy Spirit. Their will be a shaking in God's church. Some will go out, others will come. I will pray for you and brother Elce. May God bless and keep you. May the Holy Spirit convict you and open your eyes, hears, hearts and mind before his coming. God bless you all.
Claudelle, you are quoting Ellen G White in regards to "the shaking". For so long these quotes have bound and shackled Adventists to not question the teachings and writings of Ellen G White and the history of Adventism. The Adventist gospel is not the Gospel according to Paul and the Body of Christ. The Adventist gospel requires that salvation was not complete or finished at the Cross but requires an extension called the "investigative judgment doctrine" contrived by Hiram Edson et al and endorsed by Ellen G White. Furthermore, the "investigative judgment" or 2300 day prophecy has been exposed as faulty and poor exegeted based on poor and unsound hermeneutics and misapplication of the Bible prophecy. There is no theological support for this doctrine of the investigative judgment and it is heresy. Paul the Apostle condemns any other gospel other that what he taught in 1 Cor 15:1-4. In addition, the so called everlasting gospel as perpetuated by Adventism over the course of its existence has no basis or integrity. Firstly, the death, burial and resurrection of Christ and his finished work on the cross is the answer and only way a sinner can be saved. There is no judgement or condemnation or further work placed on the sinner except to confess and believe that he or she is saved by Grace through faith, it is a gift not of works. The doctrine of the investigative judgment belittles the precious and Glorious Atonement of Christ on behalf of fallen and sinful mankind whose destiny was Hell, but now Mercy and Grace can be found in the precious Blood of Christ for the blotting and forgiveness of sins. That is it - full stop nothing else. The bible states that in believing (Heb 10) I am perfected forever, I am sealed unto the day of redemption and the life I live now I live by faith in Christ. How is it that Adventism doesn't get that. It is because they are under the bewitching" teachings of Ellen G White. The everlasting gospel of Adventism is not everlasting period. It states there is a investigative judgment - WRONG. William Miller was wrong in exegesis and eschatology and later repented in setting 1844. It was Hiram Edson in a cornfield (a cornfield of all places - satanic and occultist dreams and visions happen in cornfields) who allegedly had a vision of what would be a new device called the sanctuary doctrine and later endorsed by the crooked Whites to be Adventism's foundation pillar of their emerging religion. Ellen G White stated that God made a mistake and hid the figures. I am sorry Claudelle, only a nutcase would make a statement like that about the Most High. The Whites were opportunist of the 19th century and they needed a doctrinal platform to plant their newly formed religion. Problem being they needed finance. Who did they get? Joseph Bates. Bates was a wealthy man but clearly was weary of the Whites and dubious about the so called visions of Ellen White, however given that the Whites knew that Bates loved astronomy, Ellen G White happened to conveniently have a vision about planets and stars and thus influenced him. Don't you think that odd? It was Bates that in turn influenced the keeping of the Saturday sabbath like the Jews, to the Whites. Well conveniently Ellen G White had a vision about the sabbath and the halo around the fourth commandment. This became the other foundational doctrine of Adventism. The Sabbath was never meant for the Church. Let me repeat. The sabbath of the dispensation of the Law in the OT is not meant for Gentile and Jewish believers saved in Gospel in this Church Age or Age of Grace. The sabbath was made for Israel (Jews) and given to Israel alone as Yahuwah (LORDs) covenant people under the dispensation of the Law. According to Paul, anyone who dares to keep the law is in fact under "the curse". It is forbidden for any gentile believer which you and I are and any in the Body of Christ to keep. The last doctrine so cowardly made up by those of Adventism teachers and endorsed by the false visions of Ellen G White is the Mark of the Beast as being Sunday worship. I am sorry Claudelle but WRONG. Again Sunday is not the Mark of the Beast or some so-called Sunday Law. It ceases to amaze me that Adventism requires Catholicism (the worlds largest cult) to justify many its proof statements and statements to verify it authenticity. Catholicism no doubt will play a part in the Time of Jacobs trouble (yes Israel) but there will be no Sunday Law as stated by the heretical teachings of Ellen G White in the infamous and plagiarized book "The great controversy". Claudelle you firstly need to be saved in the true Gospel and to leave the Adventist religion to be counted in the Body of Christ which is soon to be raptured before the 7 years of tribulation and time of trouble for the nation of Israel. If you miss the catching away of the Bride of Christ, the world you know now will be gone and you will be subject to the return of Nephilim and fallen ones and most importantly the "Man of Sin" who will rule from Jerusalem. No not the Pope. According to bible prophecy, when the Church Age closes at the Rapture of the Church saints, those left behind will face the most horrific times and unimaginable circumstances (but hey Ellen G White) has already prepared Adventists for that hasn't she. If you are wise Claudelle you will listen but if not. Please listen to these words. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sluNuVp2_TE.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YaphGzaTcZ8.html
The Word of God says some things only cone by fasting and prayer. Have you went to Him in supplication, and fasting, asking God to open your ears, eyes, heart and mind? Will it take the final end for you to see the living truth? The Catholic church themselves tell us that the Sabbath was not changed. Pray earnestly my brother for the Lord to help you see the truth. The Bible talks about a falling away but His true church will prevail whether we like it or not.
You obviously didn't read my response. But I will take what you said at the end of your response " but His true church will prevail whether we like it or not" Yes Claudelle, His true Church will prevail whether you Claudelle like it or not. I hope that you will see the glorious truth of the Gospel as His true Church is the Body of Christ, His Bride made up of saved Jews and Gentiles all over the world and who are believers in Gospel given to Paul to His one and only Church. Christ does not recognize any other Body as He (Christ) is the Head and we are the Body. The Seventh-day Adventist religion is not, neither has it ever been recognized as the true church. It is founded on heresy and fraud. It is a pretender and wolf in sheep's clothing bent on stealing souls from the Body of Christ to be chained up in its hellish doctrine and teachings. Its cultic and founded on the false prophet Ellen G White. Your religion Claudelle is run by your head, the General Conference followed by Divisions and Unions followed by conferences which all dictate what you believe and control what you think. I like many who have left do not need fasting and prayer. I belong to the Body of Christ and am a Christian soldier following my Beloved Captain who has given me His Word, the Word of Elohiym (God) Yes the Bible, the King James Bible - and the anointing of the Holy Spirit. Gotta go now and warn others about your religion Claudelle.
Joseph Essilfie Joseph, You say "Salvation by GRACE ALONE IS WHAT SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH PREACHES" That has got to be the most deceptive claims a Denomination could make. It is true double speak at its best. First Adventism teaches to say One is saved is Presumptuous according to you Prophet Ellen. She claims and I quote "grand principles of His holy law are under condemnation, for the righteousness of Christ cannot cover one unconfessed sin. " And She is right for the Adventist is constantly being Judged for every thought and action, ever ready to remove salvation for an unconfessed sin! And to say saved by "Grace alone" ….. while at the same time claiming to have the covenant ten commandments, the law, judging you is preposterous. The Grace you are accepting is conditional on law keeping. I have heard the cunning argument that Adventists are saved by grace until they break a law that they are not under! Once Broken they then become under the judgment of the commandments….under law. Grace alone to the Adventist is never lonely with the law ready to be applied, triggered, instantly a sin is committed. This is the Gospel according to Adventism as best I can determine mate though Most Adventists struggle to clearly state the Gospel that saves at all often stating it is the 3 Angels message!
Growing up, I always thought it was weird how the church always referred to EGW’s writings. Sometimes more than the Bible. After a while, it annoyed me and I could not figure out why. THANK YOU for your research and sharing what you found. I have been reading the Bible for myself for about 10 years now. 5 of them still under the lens of an SDA but the last 5, I feel like I became more spiritually aware. I refer to the Bible and Gods answers to my prayers now.
Well said sis. I'm happy for your experience and how God has been leading you. I've recently published three thorough, comprehensive, and definitive volumes on SDA false doctrines and correct Christian teachings in their place. Feel free to check them out on Amazon. They are titled Hiding In Plain Sight: The False Doctrines of Seventh-day Adventism.
Thank you! I just finished reading the third one. Although I do believe when Adventismos was created, it was a cult. And some churches still operate in a cult like manner. But I think there are a few who have realized what EGW’s writing and other “things” were all about. Check out Dr Charles Wesley Knight at Revision Church of Atlanta. Although he doesn’t directly criticize her, he has skirted around a lot of her writings.
@@katrinaedwards9382 ok sis, blessings. Adventism is still a cult, however there are some who are trying to be more evangelical and gospel-centered. I'm aware of Dr. Knight and the few others who take that approach.
@@ReverendThunder quote---I've recently published three thorough, comprehensive, and definitive volumes on SDA false doctrines and correct Christian teachings in their place. unquote Tell me more. Which doctrines are false???
@@katrinaedwards9382 quote--l though I do believe when Adventismos was created, it was a cult. unquote Cult #1---a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object. "the cult of St. Olaf" #2--a relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister. "a network of Satan-worshiping cults" Similar: sect religious group--CC, baptist, Protestant, etc. denomination---CC, baptist, Protestant, etc religious order---CC, baptist, Protestant, etc church---CC, baptist, Protestant, etc faith---CC, baptist, Protestant, etc faith community belief---CC, baptist, Protestant, etc persuasion affiliation movement group--CC, baptist, Protestant, etc- body faction clique #3---a misplaced or excessive admiration for a particular person or thing. "a cult of personality surrounding the leaders" --Now, tell me which definition fits the SDA!!!!! SDA--#1---God/Jesus #2---what doctrines or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister. --#3---GOd --misplaced???? ----
I am not surprised,! God said in His near coming people will leave the church because of unbelieve, because they didn't belongs there. In Jesus days on earth He went through worst, and He didn't leave us ...the church is not perfect, Satan is fighting the church from he was in heaven and he still continue to do it on earth, the church is not perfect ...I will die as a seventh day Adventist .
There is soooooo much money involved hence they won't see White as just a founder. This guy is brave and God knows He can use this guy by using him in TRUTH... So proud of this guy...God will smile on you... Don't give in to pressure by the SDA Church... Peace be with you
I was wondering all along about Elce's religious background.Thank you man for this interview.Just a word of advice to him.Knowledge of these terms Hermeneutics, exegesis is important but there are far more important methods you can use to understand difficult scriptural texts better.1. Dan 1v18-19.seek or desire the mercy on such things.2. Dan 8v15 seek for the truth moreso through prayer.Dan 9v20-22 speaks again of prayer and fasting.The problem that I see with most scholars is you tend to rely more on your theological prowess to understand deep things of God than simple methods as taught by Christ.Rarely these days would you find a theologian who say, I prayed and fasted for to understand,it's all about hermeneutics and exegesis.Guys let's humble ourselves before God and stop these counter accusations which will only help further division among Christians.If adventism or Ellen is wrong, the last day events will prove Christ's method alone for presenting truth will carry us through.As an Adventist myself I say we still love you Elce.
SolaScriptura21 How can you with a straight face use your screen name while depending on a woman's 50,000 + pages outside the bible. How is debate possible if SDA members surrendered all authority in biblical interpretation to EGW?
It is great to hear this gentlemans point of view. As a non-orthodox SDA, I believe this young man has put Christ before a man-made institution, legal entity, or social group. He just needs to take it easy on the theologic jargon. That shows he still has a lot of adventist in him.
Thanks for your input and observation bro. I was still an Adventist two years ago when I did this interview. This was actually my exit interview. I've grown much since then.
@@ReverendThunder your Worley education brought you out of the truth You have left the scriptures for the commandments of men I have prayed for you before sending this out and for myself Make God Grant you to see the light before its to late Rev 3:15-19 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. 16So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. 17Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: 18I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. 19As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
@@miltondofula you can say lord lord all you want that does not mean he is your lord and savior Matthew 7:22 KJV - Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? I have no problem with you Living the sda church With your Babylon mind frame I am glad you did What I have problem with is And i am sad about it You left the true jesus for a Babylonian jesus You know not every one that calls him self an sda is an sda But one that is inwardly Romans 2:28 KJV - For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: Romans 2:29 KJV - But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God. Sow to answer your question If you made your decision in the flesh or on what was better for you instead Of Persevering to the end Then you have answer the question
You will never hear Adventist pastors talk about the Feast of Dedication (a.k.a Hanukkah) in John 10:22-23, what it means and its origins, because there's a clear connection between Daniel 8:14 and that passage in John 10:22-23. If Jesus was there as a fellow Jew to celebrate Hanukkah at Solomon's Temple ( when John 10:22-23 took place) and Hanukkah was instituted back in 165BC by Judas Maccabeus when he cleansed and restored the temple after the defilement by Antiochus IV Epiphanes (fufilling the prophecy in Daniel 8:14 that the sanctuary would be cleansed after Antiochus LITERAL 2300 day reign of defiling the temple ended), why would Jesus need to go back to heaven and cleanse a "sanctuary" in 1844 that was already cleansed more than 2000 years earlier????? Every year in December when you see Jews around the world celebrate Hanukkah, they disprove SDA's 1844 Sanctuary nonsense as applying to an imaginary event in heaven that never took place. Adventism's foundation doctrine and Ellen White's prophetic influence is completely destroyed once you understand the connection between the real meaning of Daniel 8:14 and John 10:22-23. Imaging basing your church on a prophecy that is......wait for it......2008 YEARS OFF (165BC vs 1844AD)? What a joke!
If you take the 2300 days as literal days, then the prophecy would have to be fulfilled in just 6.5 years. What's the starting point for counting in order to reach to the end of the literal days if we are not to understand it as years? Please answer this question.
@@rickhuntling7338, in prophetic time or counting there is what is known as the day for a year principle. God is the one who introduced this method and used it with the prophet Ezekiel and the children of Israel in the wilderness. Pause and read Ezekiel 4:4-7; Numbers 14:33,34. When considering the prophetic time of 2300 days and also the 490 days prophecy. Both prophecies make no sense when matched with historical events and comes to a dead end when the day for a year principle is not used. The 2300 days, for example, when the day for a year principle is used, makes sense. When kept as days instead of years, the prophecy does not match his historical events. 2300 days if taken as literal is only 6.5 years; too short of a time since the Greek kingdom did not even take over the kingdom of Persia yet, historically speaking. Also the children of Israel did not all together return to rebuild the literal temple until 457B.C. historically (Ezra 7-10) during Artaxerxes I rule (464 - 423 B.C.). When the day for a year is used and the ancient Jewish 360 days a year for counting rule instead of the 365 days in a year, all the prophecies match with their historical events perfectly. 490 days = 490 years and 2300 days = 2300 years. 2300 years then becomes the longest time prophecy in the Bible. Daniel 9:24-27 gives us the time to start the counting, which is 457B.C. This date gives the beginning time to start counting down in order to reach the end of the 2300 years. Subtract 2300 years from 457B.C we come to 1844. We also take into consideration that between B.C. and A.D., there is no 0 (zero) year. It was about this time great revivals was taking place in America and many people were studying the prophecies like never before. In 1844, a period called the Great Awakening took place and knowledge was increasing (prophetically speaking). A great disappointment followed after. And then after this disappointment which God allowed, he would raise up a last day movement to keep studying and growing in knowledge and around this he revive the gift of prophecy through the ministry of Ellen White to restore truths that were "cast down to the ground" by the little horn antichrist. Even the Great Awakening and the Great Disappointment is recorded in Scripture. They are found in Revelation 10 (please pause to read this chapter). Read it very carefully, many don't understand it because many don't understand its symbols. It is describing the sweetness of the message and then the bitter disappointment. Ellen White around that time after tears of disappointment began receiving visions from God. In her first vision, she was shown that the Millerite movement was a movement prophesied to take place and that God had inspired Mr. Miller to study the prophecies. The Millerites had calculations correct, but made a mistake in what he believed would happen as concern events. God used Mr. Miller to bring awareness and a fixed attention to the 2300 day/year prophecy. It was after this time and marker that God raised up the Seventh-day Adventists movement for a special work of preparing the world for the end and the second coming of Jesus. They were after the bitter disappointment to rise up from the ground of despair and "prophecy again to many peoples, nations, and tongues." (Rev. 10:11) The Seventh-day Adventists church was given the 3 angels messages to warn the warn the world of impending doom (Rev. 14:6-12). This movement would be a commandment-keeping body of believers that have faith in/of Jesus AND they would have the spirit of prophecy, which is the prophetic gift (Rev. 19:10) bestowed in their midst to guide them after the great disappointment. People who don't really pay careful attention to the prophecies accuse Adventists of being a cult. It's a natural response and an unfortunate label. But the signs are all there that God himself raised up this church or movement to expose the antichrist and prepare the world for the second coming of Jesus Christ by preaching the eternal gospel, the 3 angels messages, and exposing the man of sin--the antichrist (Rev. 12:17; 14:6-12; 2 Thess. 2:1-12; Daniel 7:25). The Seventh-day Adventists church is church prophecied by God to come into existence near the end for a special work or mission. The signs are all there. Do a statistical study of Adventists church history and development from then till now and the statistics along with the growth of this church in a short time will amaze you. Ellen White is known to write more than any woman on the planet. Her whole life was a ministry of guiding and warning the Adventists church and the world. Her writings were not to replace Bible study or the Bible. No! No! No! Her writings is like a microscope or a telescope revealing what's already there waiting to be seen or discovered. She does not add but reveal what's there already. Her work is like that of the old testament prophets. Her ministry also helped to protect the church from the devil's schemes in trying to destroy the movement from within and without. Satan (the dragon) is angry with the remnant (remaining ones) church who are calling people back to the commandments of God and the faith of/in Jesus (Rev. 12:17; 14:12).
@@ReverendThunder Don't you let them change you brother... you have been released to do Gods will not Ellen White... Go in PEACE and don't let any human sway you as believe me the guilt they will shower u with will be painful as I'm still going thru it BUT OUR reward will be in Heaven and you will be protected by Jesus so who will they have? Even Satan can't win against our Lord... Blessings, I HOPE you remember me if u come to Australia.
@@donnacollins4011 thanks sis. Never. This year will make 4 years since I've left and never looked back. Freedom in Jesus is too sweet to give up for the life-sucking legalism that it offers. Don't let the guilt-trip rob you of your freedom in Christ. When I come to Australia, I hope to connect with you and some other friends I have there.
@@ReverendThunder I'd love that so please pm me on messenger when you come to Australia. Be lovely to meet another whom like me was shown the Truth in a beautiful revelation by God. Remember that they are full of wind, you can eat what you want, worship when you want and enjoy the gracious gifts given to you by Jesus Christ.... May I ask, should I get my baptism revoked and how, where do I? Is this important as I want zero to do with this insidious Cult!! Blessed be the WORD OF THE LORD, HOSANNA IN THE HIGHEST....🙏🙏💝💔💜🤩🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻
@@donnacollins4011 yes, well said. I have a series of teachings on freedom from OT food rules, you can check it out in your spare time. I also have a lot of presentations about the Sabbath. I've written two books this far on these issues and recently graduated from a Christian College about to be a full time Christian minister. It is best to have your membership withdrawn, as they will continue to count you in their roll as a member if you don't. And it's good to be completely severed from the cult. You can write a letter to your former pastor or local church requesting the removal of your name from membership.
Amen. Thanks bro. I've done a lot of works since this that you may find useful. I have a lot of videos on RU-vid, and 5 books on Amazon. Blessings to you.
@@Mizz_JON forgive me sis. Thank you for the correction. Sure, check the links below. Hiding In Plain Sight: The False Doctrines of Seventh-day Adventism Vol. 1: www.amazon.com/Hiding-Plain-Sight-Doctrines-Seventh-day/dp/B09DN35J21/ref=pd_aw_fbt_img_1/141-8431875-0656065?pd_rd_w=2X9oc&pf_rd_p=0ac31943-e5c4-4aef-ab7b-6ab45d3ad9aa&pf_rd_r=HPX9FXTTVRMB5TQ0JKF3&pd_rd_r=4def9c89-e32d-4dc4-ab23-e8de65fa3408&pd_rd_wg=B5gUV&pd_rd_i=B09DN35J21&psc=1 Hiding In Plain Sight Vol. 2: www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B09WHKKM43/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?ie=UTF8&qid=&sr=#immersive-view_1657761730124 Hiding In Plain Sight Vol. 3: www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0BHRFHHR2/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?ie=UTF8&qid=&sr= The Sabbath: What You Need To Know: www.amazon.com/Sabbath-Propositions-Mandatory-Salvational-Sabbath-Keeping/dp/1086686004/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=19WSPKJHMDDLO&keywords=The+Sabbath+what+you+need+to+know&qid=1668782249&sprefix=the+sabbath+what+you+need+to+know+%2Caps%2C475&sr=8-1 All Foods are Clean and Every Day is the Sabbath: www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1937948013/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1673888912&sr=8-3
Jesus said, If you love me , Keep my commandments, For if you fail to keep I even one, you are charged with breaking air of them. Do you believe Jesus?
You don't know Jesus? Seventh Day Adventists dont read their Bible to get to know Him. They read it to prove the Spirit of Prophecy In the word. Jesus is written on every page and tells us exactly who He is and how to worship Him. But instead of having a relationship for themselves and doing the work of going through His word with Him in their thoughts,, they go to Ellen to tell them who she thinks He is. And she is so wrong about Him because Ellen's Jesus is not the same Jesus of the Bible. Instead of listening to someone who has obviously gained much credibility and is actually using scripture, they defend made up stuff, no where to be found in scripture(Ellen says it's there so it's the 😂). Do yourself and your family a favor an repent of making Ellen your God. You put her words above GODS WORDS. Your heart sees no issue with that. You should be concerned. Do you know Jesus?
The beauty of it is that.........while some members are leaving for their personal reasons, others are seeing the light and are joining to learn more. Sometimes people think they know it all, but they lack the understanding of Scriptures. People have rejected God the creator Himself, why should I be surprised to see people leave the Adventist Church and try to denigrate the entire Church the her believe which are based on Scriptures. Reading the book of Daniels cannot be fully understood without reading the book of Revelations. thus simple......God be with you my brother, He alone understands the real reason why you left the church, but this Church belongs to no man, It's rather the Creator of the Universe who commanded us to keep the day holy. Choosing to do otherwise is for God to deal with........I take delight in sharing in the blessings that comes with the observance of the Sabbath. Jesus is our model.........He observed the Sabbath, He is the Lord of the Sabbath, and that the Sabbath was made for man and not for specific people. Choose what you want to worship, as for us, we will follow the footsteps of Jesus Christ
You think you can brainwash us? What are you talking about? You know nothing about the Bible, nothing about the Sabbath and you have guts to defend a Falsehood, Error and Heresy by the Adventists.I mourn hals of my life I spent under that CULT. Open your eyes and leave.
Mathew Blessings bro. But you can only hope that the Holy Spirit opens the person's eyes, as they have layers upon layers of Adventist indoctrination, assumptions and faulty information that'll make seeing different perspectives extremely difficult.
@@ReverendThunder that is exactly what I seen in her eyes. My pastor brought up the scripture, when she came to visit our church, about Lazarus and the rich man communicating. If I am understanding this correctly they also believe the dead cannot communicate. Correct me if I am wrong. And when she read it she was silent. What I am noticing now is she is even more on fire for 7th day Adventism. I hope the Holy Spirit reveals this to her even more and she gets saved.
Mathew Yes, Adventists believe in "soul sleep" in order to accommodate their Investigative Judgement doctrine. I have a video addressing that as well. If she's willing to see different perspectives then you can share these videos with here, along with the Former Adventist Fellowship ones.
@@ReverendThunder ok. I will try my best. Please pray for me as well. I have been trying to learn more about evangelism because I have a heart for the lost as I once was. And I am feeling under attack today both spiritually and physically. Thank you. Is there a way to stay in contact with you sir?
Mathew Definitely bro. I understand. Yes, you can keep in touch with me via email or Facebook, if you are on it. My email address is elcelauriston@gmail.com.
The only thing I can say is we are told that some of the brightest lights are going to go out. May God continue to guide you sir, we are definitely living in the Shaking Times. By God's grace, I pray God keep us all faithful until the end and never lose sight of Him. The church is not a cult. A cult talks about itself, it does not lift up Jesus. The SDA church lifts up Jesus.
SDA is a cult because they believe their false prophet EGW . Many of her teachings contradict the Bible . She said herself, she couldn't understand the Bible . She said her visions interpreted the Bible. I can interpret the Bible . I don't need a prophet to do it for me .
@Janet Davidson but I guess you don't believe the Catholic doctrine is cultic in nature: praying to Mary, a dead woman, confessing to a man your sins instead of confessing to God, believing you can talk to the dead and that when you die, you are not really dead when the Bible explicitly says, we remain in the grave until the resurrection, 1st or 2nd, keeping Sunday as the day God did not bless, sanctify, and set apart as HIS Holy day. But my suggestion to you is, don't go to google for your information, read her books for yourself without bias, for we believe the whole Bible, from Genesis to Revelation. The entire Bible which includes the 10 commandments. Blessings
@Janet Davidson Right. But not just many errors; that is the church that is spoken of in Revelation 13, the Beast or kingdom John saw coming up out of the sea; which is the 1st Beast. And Revelation speaks of America 🇺🇸 being the 2nd Beast coming up out of the earth. (Sea, meaning a multitude of people, a populated area) ( Earth, meaning a sparsely populated area, not many people). History will tell you, America grew into a great Empire. One day and soon America WILL make an image to the Beast of Rome. Mind you, there are many true believers in all denominations, including the Catholic church. They will learn the truth and God will lead them because they will hear His voice and follow Him. History WILL repeat itself; and Rome WILL try to rule the world once more. This is Bible Prophecy! There were 4 kingdoms that ruled the world: Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome. Rome, under the Catholic church, martyred many Christians for their faith, and she will do it again, with the help of the United States of America! America, the lamb-like Beast will speak as a dragon. America is changing even now as we speak. The Bible will not lie. Blessings
I listen to you and some others and I wonder if there's more than one adventist church cause I have left Pagan Sunday worshipping and been going to seventh day adventist church since 2007,happy the day I did have no issues all of these nonsense you talk about Ellen G white as if she's God no church I have been to talk much about her .the problem with people like you you're too educated, jesus nor his disciples were scholars and they were true believers in christ. The devil have your mind confused and focus on the wrong things, your salvation is base on believing in jesus and we obey him because we love him. You better look up to jesus he won't ask you about investigating structure or people in n Alaska. You have sold your soul to the devil.
Elce Lauriston May the Lord open your ears, eyes, mind and soul. Fast and pray and supplicate to the Lord to do this since your are questioning His Sabbath. You are still young in the faith. The Lord says seek and you will find, knock and the windows of heaven shall be opened unto you but you have to really want it brother Elce. May God bless you.
Hi, The Adventist claims have righteousness by Faith for only past sins. Future sins remove that Righteousness that was freely Given! That Grace is only for Repented confessed sin not ongoing for the believer! They are saved but only by day to day! They have righteousness only till there next transgression! They are not under law until they Break the law they are not under! Is Adventism the master of double talk?
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. 1 John 2:19
@@darrensteward3335 there's nothing to elaborate on. If you are an SDA, as you seem to be, you know exactly what I'm saying. Adventists are not historical Christians. Adventists see historical Christianity as apostate, pagan, devilish, etc, and departed from the in the 1840s after their Great Disappointment fiasco and then invented this SDA cult..
I thank Jesus for leading Elce out of the SDA cult. Now Elce has a personal relationship with Jesus and knows the true gospel. SDA'S are stuck in the Old Testament . God created the New Testament for a reason . It's the new covenant that we live by . Colossians 2 :16 . Matthew 22 : 30-40
They are good at twisting Scriptures and truths. Exactly what you are doing and I am not surprised to hear that from an Adventist. To hell with Adventism. Its a false religion and a cult.
I am in the truth as it is in Jesus. I'm a Christian. The Seventh-day Adventist cult is not the truth as it is in Jesus, no my how hard they have brainwashed many people to believe that it is.
@@ReverendThunder I almost feel silly Thunder; like a fan boy. It’s just that I appreciate your presentations of the pure gospel message by refuting Adventist heresies. I’ve been confused for a very long time about where I came from. Maternal grandfather a radical Adventist pastor and a father a radical Adventist health evangelist. It’s only in the last five years that I have begun to study Adventism. I appreciate good teaching from Former Adventist Fellowship with Dale Ratzlaff and Colleen Tinker and the brilliant Mr. Kaspars. I like Mark Martin quite a bit and C.M.B. The Ambassador, but none compare to you; at least for me. I like your style and the Greek word definitions. And I too, enjoy dressing sharp. I listen to your message while working out at the gym, and while driving, and walking. Bose over the ear headphones are the way to go. I’ve read the first volume of Hiding In Plain Sight and I’m ordering volume two today. Your hard work has helped me understand my family history which has been a blessing. Hope you are well and happy. God wants us to be happy. Keep rockin the cool clothes.
@@rayray4192 I understand bro. And I greatly appreciate your support, the way that my humble efforts have helped you in your journey, and the way your faith is nurtured in Christ as you look into these things. I'm happy for you bro. I'm greatly to be a part of your journey and you using the resources. My family and I are doing well. I hope you and yours are too. I'm just settling into the new pastorate. It's a lot of work. Need a lot of resources (it's a rural area), but so far God has been good and we have been moving along well, since I came to provide pastoral care and leadership here.
@@nahzewilliams5912 humans look at how a man presents himself to the world. Men with dignity and self worth dress with pride to the best of their abilities. If you dress like a slob and don’t get a haircut and practice good hygiene then you have no respect from humans, and you have no message for them because they will not listen to you.
Else is telling me truth. For proof go to Academy Apologia on RU-vid, the Seventh Day Adventist series. Jim will show EGW'S books and page number. Please leave me SDA cult and find a Bible only church
@@janetdavidson8798 He isn't correct about the scriptures. All these scriptures that supposedly "throw out" the Sabbath are talking about judging how others eat or fast. The scriptures do not contradict themselves....
We are so close to the end times, this man has studied himself out of true Seventh Day Adventism, the more we study error, to prove what we want to believe, God allows us to believe that error.
What error? You are preachers of error , heresy and falsehoods yourselves. Your group was founded by a False prophetess you call Ellen White. You are not even ashamed of perpetuating Error and Falsehoods.
Elce Lauriston has not yet speak about his personal walk with Jesus. He however spoke about his studies on scripture and his exegesis of scripture. The apostle Paul in Phiippians 3:5-6 Circumcised on the eighth day. A hebrew of hebrews He was zealous as far as righteousness in the law. However in verse 7 He say he count all but loss for the sake of Christ.
How many sins kept Moses from entering the promised land? How many sins did Adam and Eve have to commit before getting kicked out of the Garden of Eden? How many sins did Anaias and Sapphira have to commit before God struck them dead, and this was under the new covenant where grace abounds and deeds of believers supposedly aren't judged? The wages of sin is STILL death.
@@sweet1mcs 19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things SHALL NOT inherit the kingdom of God. Gal 5: 19-20
I see many here without the ability to hear. This man professes the truth and like those Sabbath keepers who stoned Stephen you hate the Gospel. Anyone who says we are under the 10 Commandments as a Christian, or must listen to a false prophet, they need to repent. Turn to Christ Jesus. 🙏
anyone who thinks they are going to Heaven while hating the Ten Commandments is very confused ..... Jesus did not die to give us cheap grace license to sin , He came and died to save us FROM sin .... NO ONE is perfect , we ALL need the blood and mercy of Jesus , but we must also TRY to obey God's Commandments , to do otherwise is absurd ..... You love Jesus but hate His commandments ???? and let's face it , once the Sunday Laws are in force , everyone will be yelling for the TEN COMMANDMENTS ...... The only one they have a problem with is the 4th Commandment , change it to Sunday , and all of that "oh we don't have to keep the commandments" will go out the window .... and SDA's are accused of "legalism" ???? Yet Sunday Keepers are going to LEGISLATE BY LAW Sunday Observance , it will be a CRIME to violate Sunday ..... THAT is Legalism on steroids
@@shure46 You seem to be confused because your statement is incorrect. The only people who are NOT going to Heaven are this who reject Christ. One of the ways a person rejects Christ Jesus is by clinging to the Law and the Old Covenant. Ever look into what the OC is? Check out Deuteronomy 4. I would like for you to leave it and come to Him. 🕊️
@@RandomTChance Here's the NEW COVENANT ..... Jeremiah 31 - 31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a NEW covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: 32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord: 33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my LAW IN THEIR INWARD PARTS, and WRITE IT IN THEIR HEARTS; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. You are ABSURD to think honoring the Law of God is rejecting Christ , you CANNOT "Love Jesus" and "Hate His Law" .... The problem with the Pharisees was NOT "The Law" , it was "Them thinking they were saved by their own goodness" , SDA's do not believe that , I do not believe that , I am a wretched sinner who needs Jesus , but that does NOT mean I throw God's Law in the trash ...... That's ridiculous , the Law TELLS ME "I am a sinner" and points me to Jesus for help , the whole idea , "There's is none righteous , no not one" , and if you accuse me of thinking I am saved by my righteousness , you are VERY mistaken and in great error , falsely accusing me with a lie
I see too many false claims in the little bit of the video I watched here. For example the beginning of the conversation on the investigative judgement quoting EGW is a misinterpretation on what she is saying. She stated that in 1844 that judgement is starting for the righteouss (this is in reference to the dead and living) and when it is completed then Judgement is pronounced on the living. This is when judgement time is over and in line with what the scriptures teach. The pronouncement is made in REVELATION 22:11 after the judgement "He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. No where in Adventism do they teach that EGW (Spirit of Prophecy) comes before the Word of God or should be followed instead of the Word of God but that it is the Word of God ONLY that it points to. The claims made in this video are simply not true. Also adventism does not teach that JESUS only entered the most Holy place in 1844 this is also not true. The scriptures teach it is at this time that JESUS began his Work in the most Holy place of the investigative judgment for which Yom Kippur is the type from LEVITICUS 23 (annual great day of atonement). Sorry but I cound go no further then 15:27 as everything said up to that point simply had no truth in it and I felt sorry for the person making these claims.
None of the twelve apostles nor Christ himself preached about the investigative judgement. The gospel they preach is what I will listen too. Not to some person who was having contridicting visions and statements. Follow Jesus and live.
Oh But the heart though..you know what the Word of God said about it. It is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked, who can know it. Jer 17:9-- If anything he needs to ask the Lord to search his heart since He is the Only One Who searches the heart and try the reins...
@@ReverendThunder l lost the spot where u commented, So you go to church on Sunday or Saturday Is your church a sunday keeping church? I commented elsewhere and lost the location. Also.so do you believe their will be a sunday Law?
@@catalinababy6068 1) I go to church on Sunday. 2) My church goes to church on Sunday (we don't keep Sunday. What is keeping Sunday?). 3) I don't believe there will be a Sunday Law. And even if there is to be one, it wouldn't matter nor affect the salvation of Christians in any way. I have done a lot of video teachings and lectures about Saturday, Sunday, Sunday Laws, etc. They are on my channel. You can check them out in your spare time for reasons why I believe the way I do and my reasons for rejecting the SDA views about the Sabbath, Sunday, and Sunday Laws.
@@ReverendThunder you dont believe there will be sunday law , the same way people dont believe there is GOD , your believe means nothing to anyone, the truth is the word of GOD .
1 Corinthians 12:28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondly prophets, thirdly teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, divers kinds of tongues.
I am pleased that he acknowledged the enormous help And encouragement He got from the adventist people. Rome's challenge was written by the Catholic Church. In it they Said. Anyone who practices and teachers our doctorans Will receive the Full wrath of God. I love the Catholics thay are honest. They said in the 1945 catechism. We changed The Sabbath to Sunday with no scriptural evidence. Two day the Pope and America. are bringing in Sunday law on The back of climate change. We need to rest the family on One day. The Pope has suggested and all the world has said yes to Sunday as the day of rest. Quote. The Pope has actually stated That the Jewish Sabbath And Sunday. Are the same. One thing all the reforms were unanimous on. They all knew what the Pope is. We don't have to wait long, To see what the adventist have said Are 100% correct. All these people that have left the church will come screaming back. Everyone has free will. Unfortunately this man Has bit the hand that feed him. We do not condemn the people that leave. We pray for them. And we love Them. All the Sunday keeping churches that come out of the reformation Are our brothers and sisters in Christ. When Tony Palmer and Kenneth CopelandMighty empire churches. Apologise to the Pope of the Reformation. The Catholic Church stated in Rome's challenge, The Catholic Church is the mother, All the other churches that worship on Sunday are her daughters. That is pretty plain that is not rocket science. John Paul II, Said Anyone who doesn't accept the mass. Should be tried as a heretic. Well we know what the Catholic Church done to heretics. Look at the Inquisition, They killed over 50 million people. Simple history. What will they do this time when church and state Unite. God help us, No sorry God help them.
Brian Holloway, your claim that the Catholic Church killed 50 million people is ludicrous! Where would you bury that many bodies? Who would dig all the millions of graves to put them in? These kind of stupid statements are why people don't take Adventistism seriously. If you put enough lies and half truths together you come up with a " Revelation Seminar ". Adventists make up less than 1% of Christianity worldwide, and there is a reason why. Bad theology from bad theologians is the first reason. Next , abortions for profit in Adventist hospitals . Totally against the Sixth Commandment. Remember that if you break one commandment you break them all.
@@daisyhavenergaming4610 Dear Mike Obviously you have no idea of history. The Catholic Church themselves has confirmed most of these. In their archives. If you read the foxes book of marters that has nothing to do with Adventism, if you go over to India and have a look at how many people the Catholic Church killed over there in the Inquisition let alone anywhere else in the world. It's like the people now in America saying that the holocaust never happened. History and the German people and the German universities and the German schools openly teach what they had done. The Americans forced the German people in buses to go round and have a look at, the gas ovens prison camps etc these after the Second World War. I am a keen historian. What you have stated here is offensive. To the marters that have died at the hands of the Catholic Church. Five years ago the Catholic Church even apologised for the many millions of people they killed. It will be interesting to get your opinion when the Sunday law actually comes in. People like you who completely oppose scripture and history without any real facts. I think will find it difficult to understand what's coming up. Even the Christian Coalition want to Sunday law in America. The Catholic Church now are pushing all churches to come together and worship on Sunday to help the planet have a rest. They are bringing in Sunday on the back of climate change. It will be interesting to talk with you when the Sunday law comes in and when probation closes. Noah preached for 120 years, the message was clear get into the boat. When the door was closed probation was closed. With the virus now around the world handling cash has almost ceased. The automatic telling machines are down at least 80% I have two family members that work in the bank. Across Australia in the last two years they've actually taken out 1000 telling machines. If you think the cashless society is not coming. And the Sunday law is not coming. Then I think you need to rethink your strategy. Because right now buying and selling is an open book. But when the cashless society comes in. You will see things change quickly. Then church and state can force their legislations easily. As you know the Christian Coalition in America is calling Sunday the fourth commandment. Which you know is incorrect from scripture. Even Jesus Christ himself pointed you to the book of Daniel. Even Daniel said at the end time there will be a person a man change Gods time and law. Do you remember that. There's only one person on planet Earth that can have the title of 666. Many people's name around the world can add up to 666. But there is only one person that can have the biblical perspective of 666. He must sit on Sevenhills. He must have killed the saints of the most high. He has never married. He he calls himself God on earth. He sits in the place of God. He has change Gods law and time. He is Pontamus maximus. There is no other person in history there is no other person on earth that can have this title. I suppose you think 666 is a computer chip, is a plastic card, is a barcode, is a brand that's going to be put on your forehead, most of the Pentecostal people believe these. Because they don't read Scripture. Yes we are living in some very interesting times. And we don't have to wait long. One question I would like to ask you Mike, if you are alive when Jesus comes which commandment can you be breaking for Christ to take you back home without repentance and obedience. Simple scripture God bless to your family Keepsafe
@@samuelwilliams1559 the bible doctrines are part of the gospel 1tim 4:16 Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee. The only thing that can save us Is the gospel of jesus christ
@@samuelwilliams1559 Matt 25 speaks about foolish virgins We are not to be foolish The foolish didn't have faith they Had presumption The wise Continue in the doctrines This is the key point continue in the doctrines There is a condition we must meet if we say we are savedJust like 1 tim 4:16 to continue If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father’s commandments, and abide in his love. Matt 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be save Now concerning on a person who is wrong in some doctrines If he is new in the faith I understand What the word of God says in James 4:17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.
We are undoubtedly in the shaking time. We can expect to see more of this in the near future as we approach the second coming of Christ. It is important that we prepare ourselves for what is to come. Through Christ, the Holy Spirit will strengthen us as long as we keep our focus on Him. We have more to fear from those within our own ranks than from those outside.
Buhrochem... not very amazing at all. Many people saw the miracles of Jesus - feeding the 5000 and calming the stormy sea, and still walked no longer with him (John 6:66). This young man is not that seasoned at all. He even admitted so himself - he is very young in the faith. In contrast to this video here's one of a real life former Professor and a current University Lecturer, Researcher and Author - both of whom became Seventh-day Adventists from being Atheists. Both are use to asking hard questions and getting proper answers. It's sad that the University Lecturers at USC were so woefully pathetic and unable to answer the questions raised... they ain't that deep!
Ray Davis You said, "... laymanlowe only his disciples saw him calm the sea..." Oh really..? Well you have just provided an excellent example of the difference between nominal Christians and Seventh-day Adventists. According to John 16:13 Jesus promised to send The Spirit of Truth to guide you into all Truth. So let's go to The Word of Truth and see which one of us the Spirit is guiding. Remember, you were the one seeking to correct me. I have presented the pertinent text in capitals to help you. [35] And the same day, when the even was come, he saith unto them, Let us pass over unto the other side. [36] And when they had sent away the multitude, they took him even as he was in the ship. AND THERE WERE ALSO WITH HIM OTHER LITTLE SHIPS. [37] And there arose a great storm of wind, and the waves beat into the ship, so that it was now full. [38] And he was in the hinder part of the ship, asleep on a pillow: and they awake him, and say unto him, Master, carest thou not that we perish? [39] And he arose, and rebuked the wind, and said unto the sea, Peace, be still. And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm. 40 And he said unto them, Why are ye so fearful? how is it that ye have no faith? [41] And they feared exceedingly, and said one to another, What manner of man is this, that even the wind and the sea obey him? Mark 4:35-41 (KJV) I have check Mark 4:35-41 in 16 versions and cannot find a single version to support your view that, "only his disciples saw him calm the sea". Jesus performed this miracle from a standing and not a seated position - did he need to stand? Could he not have remained sedentary and spoken the words to as great affect? But he stood and normally people stand to be seen by others beyond those who are on the front row as it were. So which one is the Spirit leading into all truth?
Mr. Lauriston, thank you for your comment on the SDA church. I have written some comments on what they said about the Catholic and Protestant Churches as the dragon, the beast or the anti-christ. These churches are founded on the Christian Faith brought to earth by Christ Jesus Himself 2000 years ago. And is a church under Grace and Jesus Christ is the Head. I believed that the judgement is not for the church but for the individual person born into this world. They not against other religions whom Jesus or the GodHead is not their God . I said we the Christian Church under Christ should have One Lord , one Faith and one Baptism instead of accusing us of our faith. We the Catholic and Protestant churches doesn't say anything bad of their faith, if they have any for they picked the words of Mrs. White instead of the words of the written Bible I believed. This is what Mrs. White wrote.!!! Yes I quote the writings of Paul in Romans 14:5-6, I heard you mentioned it and I put in my comment also about them blaming us Christians worshipping on Sundays. I said what Paul have said , He who put a day aside for the Lord , it is because of the the Lord we put that day aside." I said they are the Pharisees of today exactly to the Pharisees of Jesus time who said to Jesus You and Your disciples have broken the law of the Sabbath. And Jesus said the Love of God is more than the Sabbath when He mentioned to them the bread eaten by David and his men. And even He went on and said to them, you are looking at the Sabbath, " The Son of Man is also the Lord of the Sabbath. Jesus is the Sabbath. He is the Sabbath of the Christians starting with disciples promised to them and came down on Pentecostal Day, of the Holy Spirit . And I quote also that the Jews Sabbath is not of God for says Himself to Hosea 2:11. When they were against GOD and do evil and worship other God's, He said to Hosea, tell Israel, " I will stopped all their celebration, I will stopped all their festivals. and their New Moons, their feasts and I will stopped all their SABBATH DAYS, it didn't say ( MY SABBATH DAYS) but. theirs Israel's Sabbath days. I said that the reason being, it is a law to them and their children. But to us it is GRACE given to us through Christ Jesus. There are so much to comment but Brother I think this enough for now. God bless and to all Christians around the world.
"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctorine,but after their own lust shall they heap to themselves teachers having itching ears. And they will turn away their ears from the truth,and shall be turned unto fables." 2Tim.4:3-4
Good text that perfectly describes Seventh-day Adventism. Adventism came on the scene in the late 1800s, while the Christian Church has always been here. Adventism heaped to itself a lot of false teachers and teachings to itch the ears of errant fanatics and enemies of the Gospel.
Adventism is death - the skeleton of the old covenant (Hebrews 8:13) dressed up as Life, as the New Covenant, but it is just superficial. The people in it are blinded by Satan (2 Corinthians 4:4) and they want to stay that way (2 Corinthians 3:15). They refuse to turn to the Lord (2 Corinthians 3:16). God wants your love and He wants you to love Him and others (Mark 12:29-31); Adventism is trying to get to God through rules, error and someone else (EGW) who is a fake shepherd (Galatians 1:6-9) and someone you should get away from if you are serious about your salvation (John 10:5). EGW hated people since she was messed up and full of pride and slandered people and called them mark of the beast (thou shalt not bear false witness against your neighbour, including other Christians) She is currently dead. Jesus is currently alive (Hebrews 7:25). You can't get to God through training wheels (rules from the Old covenant/the book of Moses); you get to God through a living Messiah (1 Timothy 2:5). October 22, 1844 is a lie; you get atonement at the cross (Hebrews 9:28) if you believe in Jesus as the sinbearer (Romans 10:9).
I’m trying to learn the truth about SDA. It would be much easier if the interviewer would ask the question and then be quiet. He keeps trying to overtalk the young man. I really want to hear what the young man has to say without the interuptions
Ever religion repents and teach it, you do not need to law to know because the law was already in us from day one. Repenting isn't enough because all fall short and sinned, those who need salvation find salvation in Christ
@@VardyMoss Dear Vardy you stated something absolutely profound. I quote "every religion repentance and teachers it. You do not need to law do you know because the law was already in us from day one". This is 100% true the law was in us from day one Jesus took the law of stone and put it in your heart remember when the 10 commandments were given they were put on the inside of the Ark and Moses law that was against us that was contrary to us that was nailed to the cross, was put in a pouch on the outside of the Ark. Yes you are 100% right we don't need the law it is already in us so we should be doing it. so why aren't we, doing it, we've only got 10 and one of them is the sabbath so if you keep going against what God has put in your heart and was already in your heart what do we call that isn't that disobedience and isn't that why we need repentance because we have been disobedient. You can't be disobedient if you don't break the law or if there is no law if you do away with the law you can't be disobedient to it. Transgression of the Law is sin. According to scripture. If you break one of the 10 commandments it is a requirement of scripture for you to repent. So if you don't know what you are repenting about then you don't need to repent and if you have no law to tell you that you have broken the law of God then you don't need to repent. So Jesus has an enormous problem at the end of time. In the book of Revelation it states here are they who keep the commandments of God and have the test me of Jesus Christ in Deuteronomy it actually says here is the testimony put in the ark. Jesus actually stated in red writing not one jot not one title will be removed from the law until all has been accomplished. I actually looked up the encyclopaedia Britannica and to date according to this book heaven and earth hasn't disappeared yet. So according to scripture and according to the Brittanica the law is still binding. Or you are totally going against these two witnesses. Good luck
Well, actually that is why you are where you are, is because you interpret the Bible, it should be the other way round, the Bible should interpret it self. You must ask yourself the question why our calendars changing or Sunday the seventh day and why is the Pope bringing in a green Sabbath Sunday anyone who read Scripture knows that Sunday can never ever be the sabbath, with this fact alone should send a red flag up in every church. And with the Christian coalition in America forcing the government they have Sunday or have the 10 commandments enshrined in law and bringing Sunday in as the sabbath you of all people should have red flags going up. Because as soon as you get church and state should also send up a red flag. And you never answered the question how do you know went to repent.
@Chike: Ellen White is a fraud and unlike you I will be specific. 1. Ellen White claimed to have recieved a vision (funny all her lies are couched in visions) that confirmed Crosier's rendition of Snow's upgrade of William Millers ideas a year previously. If this is true, why did she teach, preach and propagate William Miller's error which lead to her dis-fellowshipment from the Methodist church? Know you adventism history sir. 2. Did you know that James and Ellen White, Joseph Bates and most of the founders of the adventism movement were arian in their theology? Did you know that James White was a member of the christian connection? Please research the christian connection. 3. Did you know that Ellen White taught that Jesus was a created being who was elevated to the Godhead by the Father and Jesus did not posses divinity of himself? Even though the bible says " In the beginning was the word (Jesus) and the word was with God and the word was God and by him all things were made" 4. What are your comments Chike about how the heresy of the investigative judgement proposed by Ellen White violates John 3:16 with regard to eternal life? What about Ellen White's teaching about race? How certain races of men are the amalgamation of men and beasts? Your guess is as good as mine to which group of men this overtly racist teaching was referring to in line with the prejudice of the time. 5. What about Ellen White's heavenly injunction on the reformed dress? Please research the machiavellian pragmatism Ellen White displays on this issue. What about her teaching that Jesus will come back in her life time? We now know that this was a blatant falsehood and an embarrassment to the SDA establishment, which has sought to walk back this lie. I can go on and on and on. Please don't berate this articulate young man for having the courage you appear deficient of. You cannot imagine what it must have cost him to reach this conclusion. Set aside the ranger Chike, compare the SDA doctrine to the greater light which is the bible.
@@clarkent61 Jesus coming in her day,so did the Apostles thought and He didn't so shall we call them LIARS ? The answer is no. Humans having intercourse with animal, what do you see when Evolutionists point to those animal-like humans to say humans evolved from animals,so doesn't it to the fact that humans were doing what she said they did? I can answer all the questions you have but I don't have the time for combative minds because they are there to learn but to argue blindly.
@@clarkent61 .. l believe you have read your Bible well so take one teaching of the Seventh-Day Adventist and compare with the Bible you know and show me the difference between them. Now, let me tell you about Sunday Churches, in Revelation chapter 17 ,GOD calls them HARLOTS with their Mother the Catholic Church which God calls WHORE and all of you have very many FALSE TEACHINGS, so please correct your Churches many FALSE TEACHINGS and leave the Adventist Church alone,also read Revelation chapter 12:17 and know that ADVENTIST CHURCH is the only TRUE CHURCH.
@@@josephessilfie7777 : I say this with stoic objectivity you are a LIAR Joseph and a coward. Your powers of perception have been dulled by your intellectual laziness and willful conceit. That is why you cannot answer simple question. Did'nt you learn you should not answer a question with a question? The apostles did not teach that Jesus would return in their lifetimes, most of then died prematurely. You LIE intentionally and you should be ashamed. Ellen White taught this and on this score she is a confirmed liar. Are you now an evolutionist? What does the SDA and the bible teach on evolution? For you to reference evolution is defense of Ellen White shows you are just as much a fraud. Luther said " Let the minds clash but keep the fists down" It is helpful to intellectually spar and engage, the reformers did. I know the teachings of Ellen White are an embarrassment to the contemporary SDA church that is why even within the SDA it is problematic.
@@@josephessilfie7777 : Arrant nonsense, lol. I respect that you even try defend the indefensible. I hope one day you will have the courage to reclaim your agency and read.
Brother, if God didn’t really made Sabbath Holy, why would Jesus keep it when He was here on earth? It was Jesus custom to go to the synagogue on Sabbath. He also warned in the future that when His followers were going to get persecuted that He warns, that it may not be on the Sabbath? Just things to think about.
Thanks for your comment. I have produced a lot videos dealing with these assumptions and prooftexts. Perhaps you can check them out in your spare time. Or maybe I can post the links here for you.
I'm this debate, I proved that just because certain things were declared "holy" for the Jews under the Old Covenant it does not mean that they are obligatory today. The Sabbath is one of those things that were holy but not obligatory for Christians today. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8LNaTjY1p0Y.html
You are fulfilling prophecy. "There shall come a falling away first" and "many shall depart from the faith". This is another sign Jesus' coming is emanate. "Even so, come quickly Lord Jesus"
It's always a wonderful thing when persons fall away from false prophets and churches like Adventism and align with biblical and historical Christianity. I'm happy that this has been my experience.
@@ReverendThunder "Historical" Christianity is NOT biblical Christianity. You sound more like someone who was NEVER Adventist but purely Jesuit from the beginning. And the "falling away first" I mentioned above IS to "depart from the faith". It's how Catholicism started in the first place. I pity you and your household. But the Worse condemnation falls on those teachers that have led you astray.
@@davidstarr6604 you're a passionate but ignorant SDA fanatic who is clueless about the basics of Biblical AND historical Christianity, and also the cult to which you belong. It's always the same senseless gump and rantings when you'll come on my channel.
@@ReverendThunder I have said my point. I expect you won't hear from me again. By your own words you have shown you reject what the bible teaches on the subject and have also rejected the God who created all things in 6 days and rested on the 7th as a memorial of His creation. You have little time left. Make sure you vote correctly when it comes time to elect someone who will FORCE everyone into a Sunday observance.
Wow! "Thunder!" I have speculated upon the reason for this nickname - but I want to hear it from you - why the nickname? Anyways, I came upon this interview sometime after seeing the one on SDA Q&A. I have never been SDA but most of the issues, dealt with here, concerning EGW'S writings, when held up to Scripture, I have come to similar conclusions. I started reading bits and pieces of her work when I couldn't understand why my Adventist friend and I couldn't agree on Scripture. "Picking, choosing, ignoring certain Scriptures, using it out of context," have formed part of my comments on social media platforms regarding Adventism. I'm glad that you held on to your bibllical convictions, to the Gospel of Christ - and not that of EGW! The statement about having had the desire to "bring" others to Adventism stemmed from the fact that, among Scriptures personalized by EGW for her church is, John 10:16. Since SDA is the "true, remnant church," everyone, including other Christians (the other sheep) have to be brought into the "fold" of Adventism 😀 I will be checking out your vids, interviews on other platforms, etc. I first saw you on "Answering Adventism," not having any idea who you were. I know now 😁...Blessings 🙏🏾🇱🇨🇱🇨🇱🇨
Blessings to you sis. Glad that you are discovering who I am, and the experiences You've had researching Adventism for yourself. 🙌🏾 The nickname is indicative of my passion, the respect that I command when I'm preaching, fearlessness, and charisma. Interestingly, I got it when I was an SDA evangelist and because my name is so uncommon here in Jamaica, and difficult to remember, the nickname Thunder stuck ever since and I'm more popularly known by it than my actual name. So, it sticks and I can't shed it.
@@ReverendThunder 😁...I knew it! It's just as I thought when I saw you on SDA Q&A - and seeing you here, looking much younger 🙂, I was convinced. You speak well, are well versed and have backbone, qualities I admire in individuals; persons who speak out and hold on to the truth - irrespective of the circumstances - instead of taking the comfortability route. An added plus, I love the tonal quality of your voice! 😁...Finally, you've got, an already diehard follower, in St. Lucia! 🙏🏾🇱🇨🇱🇨🇱🇨
@@camillaa.5231 I'm not sure if you know, but I have authored several books that go much in depth on these matters. They are all in the "links" section of my page and available on Amazon. If perhaps Amazon doesn't ship to your area and you're interested in reading them, feel free to give me your email address and I can send you free PDF copies.
Devote yourselves to prayer, being watchful and thankful. Colosians 4:2,3. Hebrews 10:25.Not giving up meeting together, are some in the habit of doing, but encouraging one another- and all the more as you see Day approaching. This is the will of God. God is pleading us to forsake our sin, but if you want to follow the will and doctrine of man, that is your descition,; God is love, He will not force you.
I continually hear people quote Hebrews 1:1-3 for evidence against Ellen White being a true prophet because it states that Jesus was the last prophet. Should we then also reject the apostle John and the book of Revelation?
John was a personal disciple of Jesus Christ, who we are absolutely sure wrote the Book of Revelation under inspiration. If you want to reject both of them in attempts to embrace Ellen White, have your fill of that. If you want to embrace Ellen White, Joseph Smith, Charles Russell, Margaret McDonald, and all those other 19th century quacks as true prophets who should be followed in conjunction with following Jesus and the Bible, you can have your fill of that too.
@@ReverendThunder So this text would apply to Jesus and his personal disciples only? It would be good to clarify that when quoting this text. Are you saying that the gift of prophecy ceased with the apostolic church? Did Joel 2 have it’s complete fulfillment in the 1st century church. I am asking because it seems to me the language used indicates the end of time just before Jesus comes “And I will show wonders in the heavens and in the earth: Blood and fire and pillars of smoke. The sun shall be turned into darkness, And the moon into blood, Before the coming of the great and awesome day of the Lord.” Joel 2:30-31 . I am not embracing or defending Ellen White or any other professed prophet, I am just wondering if you are teaching that it is impossible for God to raise up another prophet before Jesus comes. Anyone who claims to be a prophet we should automatically reject and not even bother to test the prophet, based on Hebrews 1:1-3. In other words ALL prophets would be false prophets. Is that correct?
While God has given ample evidence for faith, He will neverremove all excuse for unbelief.All who look for hooks to hang their doubts upon will find them. And those who refuse to accept and obey God’s word until every objection has been removed, and there is no longer an opportunity for doubt, will never come to the light.... DD 11.3 There is but one course for those to pursue who honestly desire to be freed from doubts. Instead of questioning and caviling concerning that which they do not understand, let them give heed to the light which already shines upon them, and they will receive greater light. Let them do every duty which has been made plain to their understanding, and they will be enabled to understand and perform those of which they are now in doubt. D
So many people call themselves ex Adventists but they cannot tell you what they are currently. Is Ex Adventist The best affiliate name they can come up with? Adventistism has sooo much cudos and truth ex Adventists need to somehow stay linked in name.
Also, dear brother, did you even consider Revelation 10? 12:17? 14:6-12? What other church on face of the planet if this isn't the finger of God that raised up this church? What other church do you know having such a fervent conviction to go and proclaim these messages?!? I'm not boasting. It's true. Think about it. All the signs are there my brother. I know of no other denomination proclaiming these messages from Daniel and Revelation. No other. And I'm certain that God did not have John write all these things so they could be ignored.
Adventists think that it is only the ceremonial law that they not under! No Adventists, its all law you are to be required to be Dead to! Now Faith has come you dont look to just some laws.....Faith replaces law! Gal 3:25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. You are led By no laws, you are led by spirit not laws. Gal 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. commandment's
@@ReverendThunder Hi, The Adventist claims have righteousness by Faith for only past sins. Future sins remove that Righteousness that was freely Given! That Grace is only for Repented confessed sin not ongoing for the believer! They are saved but only by day to day! They have righteousness only till there next transgression! They are not under law until they Break the law they are not under! Is Adventism the master of double talk?
@@JaxCover I am dead to the law and alive to Christ. I am free from the law of sin and death the Covenant ten commandments. Are you? Rom 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Its interesting Elce says at some moment How can someone in the poles (where 6 months daylight) keep the seventh day Sabbath? Well, I will find a personal way but like to know if there is a specific and biblical way for that? Thanks, God bless.
@@Caleb-mi4hi neither the Sabbath nor the Mark of the Beast is for me. The Bible doesn't say that the Mark of the Beast is for Christians or that Christians will have the Mark of the Beast.
@@ReverendThunder OK, with this one you knocked me out! May be I am kind of an alien and now I better understand those who wonder if SDAs are also Christians. ? Wow. Thanks for answering.
That's is my point exactly. I have argued that when Jesus came down from the cross he became our prophet, priest and king so he did not send any other prophet.
Joseph Essilfie you say Grace alone. Yet the Covenant ten commandments are still binding upon the Adventist. That is the law. Adventists are being Judged now for every thought and action and one unconfessed sin can remove the Adventist from the book of life. There lies the Double talk. You may well claim that salvation according to Adventists is but Grace alone but breaking a commandment law removes said Grace! So maintenance of grace is dependent on your law keeping not Grace alone! Break a law and the Adventist is back under the full condemnation of the law. That is not being saved that is having a type of salvation that is on loan ...conditional Grace.
I appreciate the anguish and anger experienced by former adventists who have left and are eager to embrace the gospel. My advice is be cautious and make adequate research on the history of Christianity and specifically the early church, the early church fathers as well as by who and when the bible was compiled. Compare the teachings of the church you want to join wth the teachings of the early church, they should be the same as God's word does not change. My brothers the gospel has been hijacked, where with the prolification of thousands of denominations everyone is interpreting the Bible in his own way. Jesus established a church and not churhes; Mathew 16: 13-18. and Paul says the Church of God is the Pillar of truth, 1 Timothy 3: 15. In Hebrews Chapter 13: 7-9, we are urged to rember and imitate and follow the teachings of those who brought us the faith, and that Christ teachings are for ever and we should not be sweid by new and foreign teachings. Kindly be aware of the above and be cautious before you make a move to avoid making a wrong choice. May God bless you all and let us pray for Christian unity so that our Lord Jesus may be exalted.
It is the teachings of the denomination itself that are so divisive. Just consider the notion of the National Sunday law. "Rather than promote love and understanding between those of different faiths, these teachings create fear and suspicion. How can a Seventh-day Adventist have fellowship with a Sunday-keeper whom they suspect is secretly planning to pass laws to torture and kill them? This false doctrine divides by creating an artificial adversarial relationship between Sabbath-keepers and Sunday-keepers. No cult can survive long with an "enemy." The SDA "enemy" is not the world; rather, it is the non-SDA denominations. Sadly, the SDA sect has made out all Sunday-keeping churches to be the enemy. This promotes hatred and suspicion amongst believers, not love and peace. The National Sunday Law serves only one purpose. It generates fear. No cult can survive long without fear. The time has come for the SDA Corporation to face the facts and admit that a National Sunday Law is no longer feasible or even meaningful. It is time for them to turn away from this unscriptural teaching and turn away from fear. It is time for SDA evangelists to stop using fear tactics to persuade people to join their sect. Many people become Sabbath-keepers for reasons other than fear. Giving up the Sunday law teaching does not mean Seventh-day Adventists must give up Sabbath-keeping or any of their other odd doctrines. It simply means that they are willing to take a second look at Bible prophecy and admit that perhaps the future may not unfold in the exact manner that their pioneers had predicted. It is time Seventh-day Adventists stop preaching terror. It is time for them to bury their past hatred of Sunday-keepers and join wholeheartedly with their Sunday-keeping brothers and sisters in fulfilling Christ's Great Commission to take the gospel of salvation through faith in Jesus Christ into all the world." (Above excerpts are from Dirk Anderson's *National Sunday Law: Fact or Fiction?* , available for free online)
Doesn't it bother you that SDA'S have a false prophet? Many of her teachings contradict the Bible . The Sunday law and investigative judgement are phantoms. No scripture to support either one .
This young man is talking about Romans 14:5 saying the Sabbath is cancelled. However, I am researching that passage and it looks like it actually refers to people preferring one day of fasting over another, not the Sabbath. I already know that Colossians passage was mistranslated, as well. It doesn't say not to judge whether someone respects a Sabbath but rather what they eat regardless of which Sabbath.
It’s all about selling your books. Hey!? I’m glad I’ve joined the SDA church 41 years ago. There will be more like you leaving the faith. My experience with Christ speaks for itself and I’ve actually watch this video because someone new in the SDA faith coming from your rapture beliefs was sent to watch it. I’m now showing that person where you are wrong. We are bringing many sheep to the fold, we will protect them from those teaching doctrines of demons also.
It’s all about selling your books. Hey!? I’m glad I’ve joined the SDA church 41 years ago. There will be more like you leaving the faith. My experience with Christ speaks for itself and I’ve actually watch this video because someone new in the SDA faith coming from your rapture beliefs was sent to watch it. I’m now showing that person where you are wrong. We are bringing many sheep to the fold, we will protect them from those teaching doctrines of demons also.
It’s all about selling your books. Hey!? I’m glad I’ve joined the SDA church 41 years ago. There will be more like you leaving the faith. My experience with Christ speaks for itself and I’ve actually watch this video because someone new in the SDA faith coming from your rapture beliefs was sent to watch it. I’m now showing that person where you are wrong. We are bringing many sheep to the fold, we will protect them from those teaching doctrines of demons also.
It’s all about selling your books. Hey!? I’m glad I’ve joined the SDA church 41 years ago. There will be more like you leaving the faith. My experience with Christ speaks for itself and I’ve actually watch this video because someone new in the SDA faith coming from your rapture beliefs was sent to watch it. I’m now showing that person where you are wrong. We are bringing many sheep to the fold, we will protect them from those teaching doctrines of demons also.
Another misunderstanding i see with this. I would be happy to come on platform if i was in Jamaica to eeason with you all. There is a very big misunderstanding with what the young man said mostly
AMEN MY BROTHER, I LOVE SDA PEOPLE, THEY WALK GODLY BUT GAL 1:9 APOSTLE PAUL SAYS IF ANYONE PREACH A GOSPEL OTHER THAN THE ONE WE HAVE GIVEN YOU , LET HIM BE A CURSE. 1COR15:1-4 IS THE GOSPEL FOR THE CHURCH TODAY THE 3 ANGELS GOSPEL IS THE EVERLASTING GOSPEL DURING THE TRIBULATION, NOT NOW
You are allowing yourself to be the devil's agent...heaven help.Remember Sister White said "bright lights will fade.....and there will be a falling out during the end time."
@@ReverendThunder dimwits keep Sunday when the Creator's calendar is one of the most provable doctrines in scriptures. No one said to stop the new moon days. It's mathematically impossible to have 3 months in a row where the 7th day of a week is the 15th of the lunar month if there are only consecutive weeks, yet there are examples in the scriptures where this happens 3 months in a row. There's a new moon day, which isn't part of a week, followed by 4 7 day weeks every month. The calendar is in the sky and sets our body's natural cycles. Jesus never broke the Sabbath. What else would you do on a rest day than to rest-ore your neighbor as yourself? All the initial feasts have come to fruition: the passover for the death, firstfruits for resurrection, and pentecost feast of weeks for the coming of the Holy Spirit. What about the Yom Kippur, will it be the threat of the earth, or feast of shouting be the return and the feast of tabernacles be the saints going into the heavens for a time? God's complete plan of salvation is made full in the feasts and the tabernacle which the mother church harlot has corrupted. The headgear of the latin man .. add up the roman numerals. The evidence is all there. Walter Veith didn't want to accept it, but he knew it was true. The prophecies and the protestants all point to her. You don't need Ellen White to conclude this.
I think the education went to your head ,remember church can't save you ,having a relationship with Jesus is the answer my brother may the Lord bless you.
The 2,300 year period was not an answer to "How long did the abomination of desolation do its work? For how long did the abomination of desolation continue?" But, the question was, "How long was the vision of the abomination of desolation?" That vision began long before the desolation of the heavenly sanctuary, the persecution of the saints and blaspheming of the heavenly angels, and the casting down of the atoning crucifixion of Christ, all of which occurred during the Dark Ages by the little horn power. The vision began during the Persian Empire, which connects with the reign of Artaxerxes when he funded the restart of the Jewish economy and government in 457 b.c. The little horn came out of, not one of the four horns of the he-goat, but it came out of one of the four winds. In light of the previous two prophecies, Rome would be the empire that followed the Grecian he-goat, and it also had a little horn element in the Daniel 7 prophecy. Therefore, the greatest blasphemy against God and His heavenly sanctuary occurred during the papacy of the Dark Ages. And Revelation 13:1-7 and Daniel 11:21-45 agree with the Daniel 8:10-14, 23-25. The cleansing, as in restoring, the heavenly sanctuary from the defiling by the little horn, would consist of not only clearing all sins from the throne of God, but also a special work of purification on earth. That special work of purification must necessarily require the cleansing of false doctrines and of clearing up the high standard for sanctification by faith. Together, the work of cleansing of heaven and earth temples would begin in 1844 and continue until the saints are sealed and sins not longer pollute the heavenly sanctuary.. When the character of Christ is perfectly reproduced in His children then He will come and claim the as His own. Regarding His entrance into the heavenly sanctuary upon His ascension, Hebrews 9 shows that the skene is what He entered, as the Holiest of all because the heavenly temple is holier than the earthly. And by design He must enter the Holy Place first before entering the Most Holy Place. There were three veils. He entered within the veil into the skene in 31 AD, and 1813 years later into the hagia hagion. Blessings, brother.
How can you not know when you are in a dangerous religious organisation such as the ADVENTIST CHURCH? Founded on false Prophecies and false doctrines. If you are one of these people FLEE with your life, There are many healthy churches out there.Find them.@@mitchellosmer1293
On the contrary, it's because many don't understand their Bible, covenants, and Christian church history that they are often misled into becoming an Adventist. When persons DO begin to understand the Bible and those other things, they generally leave the false system of Adventism.
