How come no one said that about Ali? MJ himself telling people he’s black jesus. How you get a name doesn’t matter it’s about can you back it up and most people in the public eye will not give their true feelings or thoughts being interviewed or questioned. No one is “great” accidentally. Egos are thick and no star is as humble as image creation may portray them.
@@Karll541 I didn’t say he came up with it. I said he has proclaimed it. When I first spoke (not sure if that was on your line or someone else’s) my point was there’s players who claim names. It’s not about how you got a name it’s can you back it up. I. E. If I come to the park calling myself “buckets” I’m leaving that park getting called “buckets”. Ali called himself the greatest. They marketed a high school kid, made money off the high scholl kid then people try to use that “no need to say it but nobody said that about Ali then you have dudes claiming black jesus but they get a pass which Mj is one of them. People dogging Lbj for ego trippin’ when Mj & others do the same things and or near similar. All these stars have ego in sports, pro sports, some more than others but image creation some people believe players with egos are humble. They can’t be both. They can show some humility at times but you can not truly be both no matter what the media portrays. Some people (no one specifically)are ok with certain things depending on who it’s coming from instead of being consistent. Regardless he backed up all the hype from hs on no matter what anyone calls that dude.
@@middlfingazup2446 He only called himself "Black Jesus" to taunt his opponents. He wouldn't say that on national TV like LeBron would have. And also, LeBron's signature sneakers don't sell anywhere near like MJ's sneakers do! In fact, the Retro IVs will still run you anywhere from $150-$200!
Its called self-awareness, MJ had it, and it made him charismatic. LeBum coronates himself and calls himself the GOAT, and makes him irritable and annoying. Folks will be wearing MJs in 20 years, no one will be rocking LeBum's. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💪💪💪💪
@@dominiquejones3805It depends, I think Isaiah is one of the best but I can't see him being better than Magic at all. Not even close imo. Magic is one of the greatest all-time players, he accomplished as much or more than most in almost half time time of a lotta other top 10 players aside from MJ. His rookie season alone had one of the most legendary finishes ever. Isaiah is great but not even top 10 I don't think. But really neither were pure John Stockton style PGs, Stockton was one of the absolute best pure 1's. But both Magic and Isaiah were a little more versatile to me, Magic with his size and Zeke with the physicality, they could slip into whatever role they needed to play where a more pure 1 is an ultimate ball mover and facilitator that only shoots when they're the best option and nothing better is opening up in time. Magic and Isaiah could shake it up in a number of ways.
I’m a long time Celtics fan and over the years I’ve seen the best of both Jordan and Lebron. They’re two of the greatest players ever, but I don’t recall opposing teams and fans having the same sort of awe for Lebron that we all had for Jordan. If you were a fan when Jordan played and don’t just rely on statistics you’d know what I mean. After all, it was Jordan who raised the profile and popularity of the NBA in the entire world. If there were two competing teams with comparable levels of talent, and I had to pick one player to make a difference, I would pick Michael Jordan every time, without question!
Yeah Jordan was probably better but it's not by very much. If Jordan made it to the finals with that ass Cavs team he woulda lost to the Warriors to. The Bulls won 55 ganes without Jordan after he retired the first time. The Cavs were the worst team in the NBA after LeBron left. But LeBron was on other teams that lost in the finals that were pretty good. There hands down the 2 best players I have ever seen. They could carry teams like no one else ever has.
Lebron was caught purchasing illegal ped's from the biogenesis lab in 2013, but no one is allowed to talk about that. Jordan deserves more credit for being an all natural athlete.
@@rajathnayak5624 I can prove it very easily. Look up the biogenesis ped's scandal from 2013. Many athletes were caught including Lebron. Just google it.
OMG! I didn't know this. It wasn't just lebron. Other NBA players and MLB players were doing it to. The Biogenesis Scandal is what its called. These guys were not disqualified? WTF
@@Lu_Williams HOF speech is post career.......anything he speaks of is backed up by facts. He didn't say he was better than anyone in his HOF speech either lol.
Me personally I think Wade is a better player than Lebron. Injuries shortened his career. Hell there r a lot of players that had a better game than lbj but injuries shortened their careers. Penny, B-Roy, Rose, McGrady,Hill,
@@dominiquejones3805 Kobe should’ve been the first name you said. The only things that can match the amount of times Lebron lies, flopped, dodged games, gave up on defense, have finals losses, and gave excuses all together is the amount of fish shït in the ocean and all of Kobe’s injuries 😂 And that man still put up 81 pts & finished his last game like a Boss. Lebron would never.
Jordan pushed his teammates to be better. Worked with them to be better. He was coachable. Playing pg when asked. Buying into the triangle offense. He didn't stop playing defense. He didn't act like a fool when there were blatant no calls against him. The narrative around brons selflessness baffles me. He literal controls the game to the point where the team has no identity when he is off the court. He chooses who eat and who doesn't. But he always makes sure he eats first. That's why you see every 3rd superstar on his team suck. No chemistry. Just talent and James way.
Let’s not forget the inability to win a chip without at least 3 HOF/allstars. And at the same time, losing chips with at least 3 HOF/allstars on his team. Inability to actually build a team from the ground up. He can only form Voltron to win. Cannot mentor young players to win because it’s about him. Remember what he did to the lakers young team. Look how good many of them are now playing with their respective teams. The dude is great at certain aspects of b-ball, but fundamentally flawed at others and also mentally weak and extremely narcissistic. That being said, he is human and we all got bad ways, but the media just excuses all of his and have shills all around try to tell the masses what to think when they see his nonsense.
@@snakebitten6967 forming voltron is the perfect description or at least power rangers; he always has a great starting lineup and he always plays the red ranger whenever he wins a chip
@@troliskimosko Jordan helped build the bulls up to where they got. He didn’t join a super team and play with multiple all stars to buy his championships unlike Lebron
Lebron : I am the GOAT, and I am trying to break records by longjevity to look greater. Jordan: I dont need to break records by longjevity, I retire, may the people judge me. *Jordan > Lebron*
LeBron's NBA Finals record against his contemporaries: 1-3 vs Steph Curry (top 75 player all time) 1-2 vs Tim Duncan (top 75 player all time) 1-2 vs Kevin Durant (top 75 player all time) 0-1 vs Dirk Nowitzki (top 75 player all time) He does have one winning record though 👀 1-0 vs Jimmy Butler (not top 75 player all time)
Lebron is a clown saying that, he should be happy being considered top 10 with his record of choking in the playoffs and usually needing a superteam to win. Stats are generational, 6-0 in the finals? GOAT JORDAN
As a Spurs fan it's disrespectful to put himself over Tim especially since Tim owned him in the finals. As a Wade fan I knew as soon as he got there casuals would forget they won before he got there because they give James credit for everything.
It's insane how they skip Tim and Kobe who have two of the best finals records against a time soaked with Hall of famers straight to the guy with the worst finals records since Jerry West in one of the weakest conferences ever
Lebron knew Wade was gonna be the FMVP that time he purposely let the team down against Dallas. He want all the glory to himself he'd rather lose than to give it to Wade. That's why Wade hated him after that.
Ahh hell nah don’t talk basketball if you truly have Tim and Kobe > Lebron. Literally any list that doesn’t have Jordan and Bron at the top is automatically invalid.💀 and before you try calling my a Lebron meat rider I personally have Jordan firmly as the GOAT. But a lot of people disrespect Bron like if he ain’t the only NBA player who you could actually argue against Jordan as the GOAT. Jordan and Bron sit at the top as the 2 greatest players and then it’s everybody else
The reason why this Lebron's "claiming" works in todays basketball is bcoz today's players aren't mentally tough like before. Isiah Thomas also said this "If I'm a player now after hearing this, dude I'm gonna get ready to DO YOU the next time I seen you on the court" I don't think that any player in today's league had THAT in him to just go out there and make this guy eat his words🤦🏽♂Soft groupies!
If Kobe's still with us, he would shut so many people up before they even try to talk, Mamba always spoke the truth disregarding people's weak feelings. We need men like Kobe especially these days
That's why Bill Russell and Tim Duncan are two of my favourite players. They achieved a lot with the "team first" mentality. I put both of them ahead of Lebron in my GOAT list.
Tim Duncan is a great choice, but Bill Russell?? Ya he was good, but he was good because he was first, not because he was necessarily an freak of nature. LeBron and Jordan are literally at least an oder of magnitude better than other players.
LeBronze all time scoring title title is like my 15k kills stat in league of legends that means nothing on how well I played but just how much I played. 14 seasons with 6 rings and 2 threepeats, ill take that.
Jordan was considered THE basketball player in the 80's, even before he won a title THAT's how good he was Let's get it straight: he's not the greatest because he won six straight titles. No, he won those titles because he's the greatest. See the difference?
Ik bro, its the new generation. They probably jus started watching bron as a Laker 🤣 I been watching the Nba since Bron first stint in Cleveland. These new kids get on ig and suck him of all day calling him the goat. They don’t even know that Kobe was miles ahead of LeBron for a whole decade before Bron joined a superteam and kobe was older.
@@6ixvy no he isn’t better than Kobe. What makes him better? It’s not all about numbers I hope u know that💯 I like Kobe better just because I can respect him as a man. LeBron moves like a female & I don’t respect that. He’s a terrible teammate like do u have eyes? I bet u wouldn’t love LeBron if u were on his team and he went behind your back trynna trade u & then smile in your face. So idec what u say he’s not better than kobe. Kobe is a better leader u saw the impact he had on Gasol (vice versa) LBJ can barely get it done with AD. I DON’T RESPECT HIM I CAN’T RELATE TO HIM WEAK MENTALITY
@@Kay_Locc You just a lebron hater. Lebron a better finisher, 3pt shooter, rebounder, playmaker, interior defender, more clutch, a better leader, and has better accolades. The only thing Kobe is better than Lebron at is Scoring, Midrange shooting and Perimeter defense. It’s literally no debate and don’t let me go into stats💀.
A very simple scenario to consider, if a guy enters the NBA at 18, leaves at age 45 years old. Never wins a championship or even plays an NBA final, has a lower average points and assists per game. But break Lebron scoring record and passing record, is this new player better than Lebron. If Lebron fans would be honest they say no, but it is exactly the logic they use. More games played leading to more career points made does not make you a GOAT.
Lebron has MVPs, finals MVPs, great averages, even now at 38 great averages, stats, wins, championships. He has been the best player in the league longer than anyone ever, he has been a top 10 player in the league longer than anyone, he has the most All NBA team selections, most all star selections. Lebrons PER is higher than Jordan's in the playoffs from his first championship win to his last. His finals averages are better. He didn't play in the expansion era. He played in a far more competitive landscape. His finals competition was far better. Aside from scoring - passing, rebounding, defending - Bron is better at. All that - and he has been doing it longer than anyone. There is plenty of points that can lead you to the conclusion that Bron>MJ. Your "simple" scenario isn't so simple when there has never been anyone like that. End of day - Lebron is 38 averaging 30ppg. When has that been done? This record won't be broken for 100 years.
@@reignmankemp Jordan has 6 FMVPs 4 of which he was also the League MVP and First team all defense for all those chips. He also has 2 of the top five Finals performances of all time, 1 & 5 respectively. Tell me how is anyone surpassing this? Put it like this..who are you drafting 1st pick out of all the greats? Nobody is taking LeBron #1 stop the🧢. Ask Jason Terry
@@Getloose360 I'd take Bron first. He may have more mishaps along the way - but he has been at the high level he has for longer, and doing it in a far more competitive and better NBA. Giannis, KD, Curry and a handful of others are better than anybody Jordan saw. Not just that, the teams he faced outshine anything in the expansion era Jordan played in. The Jazz and 96 Sonics are the best teams Jordan ever faced. Let that sink in. You had Harden, Westbrook and Durant taking on Bron. Curry, Green, Klay and KD. Duncan, Leonard, Ginobili and Parker... Even the Miami Heat team those Lakers beat are probably better than the 96 Sonics talent for talent.
“If Lebron fans would be honest” Lebron has 4 rings and 4 finals mvps and 4 mvps, and 10 finals appearances but your guy has 0 of each. That’s not even remotely the same thing.
Basketball is a game to be played to win and to be number 1. That is not only in basketball but to all games. Games are being played to win. Let us put it in chess game, yes, you have taken your opponent's pieces but you did not win, was it worth it to have most of the pieces but you lose.🎉🎉😂😂😂
This is such a dumbass argument 🤣 Lebron has more game winners in the post season then kobe and Jordan combined Lebron put up better finals numbers then Jordan against far better opponents then any Jordan faced in the 90's Lebron in 2018 with the worst playoff team ever had the most 40+ point games in a single post season ever and the most game winners ever
That's idiotic.LBJ is a much less selfish player than MJ. Who is no. 4 all time in assists and no. 2 in NBA Playoffs History? It's not the bald headed cigar chomping gambler I'll tell you that. LBJ is no. 1 all time NBA points, no.1 in playoffs history by a long shot.
He alienates fans when he says he's the goat. A lot of people think Bird was a better 4 than Lebrick. Jordan used to play whole seasons. One time he wanted to play on a bad ankle but management wouldn't let him. He had a 'love of the game' clause in his contract that would allow him to play anywhere any time he wanted. Things like that made him a legend.
He had respect for his own brand, he knew that the fans paid money to watch him. That is the difference between eras really, one understood and respect the product and fans; the other is entitled. Entitled to take any day off because they felt like it, entitled to being the goat.
Never heard 1 pro say that they lost sleep the night before having to guard LeBron lol the next day . MJ struck fear in players. Not evern Kobe did that. MJ is the 🐐. Kobe closest to that. LBJ way down the line
@@azrielnguyen9586 He still took a year and a half off as well as “retired” right before the the season was about to start. The dude that’s played more minutes than anyone ever is getting compared to how the league used to be? Why? Greg Popovich is the one who started load mgmt before it was even a phrase. He eventually got fined but no one said a thing about him nor when they speak now no ex coaches, players bring up the fact Popovich started it then if you ask former players if they could’ve played longer with load mgmt what do you think they would say?
I grew up In one of the most isolated places in the world. We didn't know anything about basketball but there's one name that everyone, knows without even knowing anything about the man. Is the name Michael Jordan. Now that says alot about the man and how far his legend spreads.
EXACTLY!!!! Something that most Lebron James fans will never learn about. MJ and like Bird and others will be always remembered to end of times. Players like Lebron James will be lost and forgotten in the pages of time.
I'm still confused what STATS prove LeBron is better? I'm pretty sure the longevity STAT argument has been debunked over and over, but averages, per game , and accomplishments go to MJ, I think LeBron is trolling maybe to help motivate himself because if he really thinks that he's delusional or a complete moron which I don't think he is.
It's from media's constant pushing of this narrative. As you said the only argument that favors LeBron is Longevity, that's it. Almost no one other than Max Kellerman, Brussard and Rob ever mention anything about stats. It's always he did this or he has the most points. No unbiased person with facts laid out on the table can say that he's the goat, it defies all reason!
This is because LeBron has been told he's God's Gift to Basketball since he was like 16.. So he fully expected to have his NBA Career make Jordan's look like how JJ Reddick looks at Bob Cousy... Once LeBron realized just how much winning Jordan did and that he wasn't going to surpass him, he (and I highly think it was under the direction of older NBA advisors who hate Jordan) started influencing the media to focus on certain things so that he could be viewed as surpassing Jordan or at least make it a great debate... Problem is other players who are similar to LeBron (great players, great stats, very very few Rings) all got kicked out of the GOAT convo under the stance of "Ok you got great stats but you don't win. Winning matters." With LeBron and LeBron Fans they are trying to change that standard so LeBron can be amongst the greats and keep their egos/pride in tact
Not giving 2 shits about all the kids in the crowd who wanted to see him play. Some maybe that was the only opportunity they'll ever get. That's what bothers me most about all these players taking so many games off. Total disregard for the fans.
@@Getloose360 Karl Malone became second of all time scoring and only celebrated with his teammates in the locker room against the Rockets after the game and with the Media he only spoke on the jazz clinching a playoff birth Class act
I'm so glad there are still some people that can see how LeBron has spent his whole career stat padding and always putting himself in the best position to win instead of doing the hard work of establishing a winning culture. Too few of us are speaking out.
The people that are MJ fans are the ones that saw him play, and very few of the people who are growing up nowadays think that he was better. The "too few" comes from all his fans becoming old and dying lmao.
"Too few of us are speaking out" 😂😂😂😂 you act as if this is a big deal 💀 im pretty sure MJ couldnt care less if you "speak out" in his behalf lol lets be real. People are aloud to have an opinion even if its wrong or something you dont agree with. Is it really worth starting a MJ movement to prove he is goat 😂😂😂 grown men crying over Lebron.... Is it really affecting your life that much that you feel you need to "speak out" 😂😂😂 im actually dieing
@@tyrellleach1846 Couldn't help yourself, huh? Triggered because you can't refute the truth about your boy so you resort to ad hominem attacks. I'm not speaking on behalf of MJ, I'm speaking on behalf of the game I've watched for 35 years turn into a sissy, feminized bastard sport in the hands of your boy. He ruined the game and cratered the ratings. Even the All Star Game has been changed to "Team Lebron" every year. That overly-sensitive, attention-seeking narcissist ruined the game. And yes it is a big deal. The NBA was as popular as the NFL when it was in MJ's hands. It's less popular than the Pro-Bowl now. LeBron even got booed at the Super Bowl! So clearly I'm not the only one that sees through that fraud.
@@TayGee-mh8eo im not triggered at all thats why i am laughing so hard 😂😂 im not even a Lebron fan... Nothing i said indicates im a Lebron fan... Judging by your answer you are definitely the one who is triggered 😂😂 im sure MJ really appreciates you defending him.... When he reads your youtube comment he gunna be so proud 😂😂😂
@@tyrellleach1846 Yeah right. Plus reading comprehension is obviously not your strong suit. That's what happens when you get triggered and want to lash out. But keep on "laughing". Adding 😂emojis makes it look so real. Keep it up.
The thing LeBron doesn't seem to understand it's not up to him who the goat is, it's the fan's who will decide who's the greatest. LeBron is all about himself and racking up stats
Lebron James beat jordan and Kobe's record in points without the need to make the number of shots they made .. (1240 fewer shots, and Lebron had already passed jordan) .. means that lebron has more effectiveness to score. ..for those who do not understand, that means that for every hundred shots, lebron was more successful than jordan and Kobe ... and also beating them in assists, !! And not only that, also having more offensive and defensive rebounds .. Lebron James is simply an unprecedented player, and his records keep taking off more and more ... his versatility, speed and strength allow him to play all positions- point guard, shooting guard, forward, forward pivot ... things that neither jordan Neither Kobe, Malone, Magic, nor anyone else could ever do.
@@pianomusic9699 lebron is more efficient only because he is a small forward who takes more shots at the rim. Lebron took 35% of his shots at the rim for his career, and was attempting 42-45% of his shots at the rim in his last 3 seasons in cleveland. Unfortunately, we only have data from jordan's last 2 bulls seasons, along with his wizards seasons (which im ignoring). MJ was attempting about 20% of his shots at the rim. Even then, bulls jordan and lebron both shot 50.5% from the field. Also, it should be mentioned that MJ as a bull averaged 4 more ppg than lebron did, and had 30+ ppg on 50%+ shooting 5 straight years. Lebron did it once. So Jordan was much more productive, while still being very efficient.
@@glizzygladiator601 You conveniently forgot to mention shot attempts per game.... MJ shoots on average 6 times more a game than Lebron. You also mislead due to lebron shooting 5 threes a game (less %) compared to jordans 1.3 three's a game. You're not comparing the same things. Lebron is a better player, accept it and stop trying to manipulate incorrect data to prove your point.
@@nickgould2510 and now you just making shit up. Jordan shot 3 times more on average than lebron. He also averaged 3 more points per game in his career, including his wizards years. And jordan's 3 point percentage and volume would be higher if he played in an era that valued the three, like lebron did
Michael Jordan didn't call himself the goat, the LEGENDS called him the goat and the best player of basketball of all times. In every highlight of Michael Jordan his stylish way to play is breathtaking art in the air. Happy Birthaday MJ!
LOVE the NFL running back analogy. I've used this exact "metric" in other threads/posts about Jordan vs LBJ. Along these lines, Karl Malone scored far more points than Hakeem, Tim Duncan, Larry Bird, etc., so he's better than them, right?
Stupid argument. The problem is, the next big superstar will be compared to Michael again. That's when you know, LePuss never was near the GOAT. It's an artificial debate. Pushed for young people to have something to talk about.
In a way he was right. 20+ years later and there are people arguing that he isn't the GOAT because they *don't* know him like the people that grew up with him and have watched today's game know him.
The Stat thing is what a lot of lebron fans use especially Nick Wright and Shannon Sharpe they love using stats unless the stat debunks their goat argument and u made a great point or MJ did when I’m judging the greatness of players I go more off of watching them play then looking at the stats because as u said Stats alone are very deceiving I’ve said this since it happened when lebron decided to go to the Heat that immediately took him out of any kind of talk of being the greatest and then he choked on a stacked super team and was the sole reason the Heat lost that series that stamped it for me lebron will NEVER be the goat to me I don’t care if he found a way to win 9 rings after that it was over at that point
@Kauffman Family it wasn't stacked The heat with wade had 30 wins the year before lebron got there and the 4 Yeats preceding wade never got out the first round
It's not just stats lebron also played far better competition in the finals If you just take into account 15 17 and 18 In 15 lebron took the warriors 6 games with no kyrie and no love Then in 17 and 18 lebron faced a warriors team with 2 mvps in there prime, 4 all stars, and a dpoy And in 18 also lebron gad no kyrie when facing those teams Lebron would have 10 rings if he faced jordans 90's competition
You made a mistake. In Miami, Lebron didn't play in a system. Dwayne Wade, after they lost in 2011, saw fir to learn how to play off the ball so Lebron could control the ball more. How did Wade do this? He watched tapes of Michael Jordan.
so i'ts LBJ mistake he spent his season playing in the team he chooses to win, if dwayne watch too much MJ so as LBJ he tried to catch the ghost he could never hope to catch
They had 2 start playing n the LBJ system 4 him 2 b effective. Bosh really became a spot up shooter. What also happened was they played a young iso OKC
I am a very good judge of character and I can read people very well. I had always said Lebron was a closet "self centered" dude. LIke he tries to play the part of a humble guy, gracious, blah blah blah but deep down he's full of himself. That's the problem I have with people like that is when they pretend to be something they're not. Kobe, he was cocky, arrogant, self centered and he will tell you about it. He wasn't hiding that part about himself like Lebron.
Great Vid goatish forsure 🏀🥳🐐, and MJ never had to say it because all of us that witnessed his Career we all knew it and this is from a life long Rockets fan here in H-Town but respect and love are earned . MJ will always be our generation's 👑👑👑👑 👑👑
Wow this video is very well done highlighting very valid points and bringing up how the guys handle their cadres and priorities differently . Good job .
The biggest difference between the two in my humble opinion. Is that Jordan wanted to play against the best players in the league. And beat them to show how great and better than them he was. And LeBron wants to play with all the best players in the league. To get stats and try to win as many chips as Jordan. But somebody should have told him. That you play with the best players in the league during the Allstar. Games and in the Olympics. Not during the regular season. When you play against the best players during the regular season. That's what's called. Competition. But he doesn't want to compete. He just wants stats. But that doesn't make you the goat. Competing against the best players. And beating them and winning chips. Does.
MJ only lost one playoff series when he played with at least one All-Star on his team (oops, my bad, he's only had one All-Star on his teams) while LBJ has lost eight series when playing with one or more all-stars . In the play offs MJ is 20-7 against 50 win teams while LeBron is 10-9 and MJ is 7-2 against 60 win teams while LeBron is 3-4 . Pretty cut and dry as far as who the G.O.A.T. is. If it's about winning, it's pretty clear who is ahead. If it's about stats, the only stat LBJ is ahead of MJ is in longevity. With longevity comes the good (points, assists, steals, rebounds etc.) and the bad (turnovers, missed shots). Longevity doesn't make you better, it just means you played longer. Other than longevity, MJ is ahead in every other statistical category such as PPG. However, MJ won more League MVP's, Finals MVP's, scoring titles, steals titles, first team all defense selections, Defensive Player of the Year, not to mention championships, in less time than LBJ. I could go on and on but any smart person would have figured it out by now. There is no comparison between MJ and LBJ.
@@Jay.prodzzzzzz What does that say about LeBron? He's had more all star help yet lost more. You obviously don't have a clue about what you're talking about.
@@luminousrxk7288 I don't think it was that one, Pippen wasn't an all star yet. I think MJ lost to the Orlando Magic right after he came back from baseball. Should it really count when he had played less than 20 regular season games? What do you think?
Pat Riley wasn’t going to let LeBron run his team like he did in Cleveland. LeBron had no choice but work with Spolestra & it resulted in some of his best seasons. I’ve always found it odd just HOW many coaches LeBron has had. If a coaches doesn’t bow down to him, he wants them gone for a coach who will Let’s not forget he got David Blatt fired in 2016 despite Cleveland being at the top of the Eastern conference at the time
Jordan transformed the style and substance of basketball, expanding the scope and meaning of athletic achievement. We still see his influence in ways big and small
Uncut Hoops, so appreciate this video!!! I've been screaming this for so long! Goat doesn't call themselves that, they just are. Just like the real animal, a goat ain't walking around saying hey, I'm a goat, but all of us call it that. It doesn't have to call itself that. Same principle. LBJ is disqualified by MANY things in being the greatest of all time. And rhe bad part is, he doesn't even know it. Smh
One of the most annoying things about LeBron and his fans are their hypocrisy. They jump up and down happy when he gets good stats but crucified Westbrook when he chased stats.
Prop to Lebron for his longevity and the way he takes care his body, but I think deep down inside, he knows he didn’t have Jordan’s hunger and mentality for winning. So he took the stat padding route.
In 20 years time nobody will remember this debate. There will be new Lebrons, Lukas, Gianises who will be compared with the GOAT again. Lebron's fans are loud right now as he still plays the game.
I always use the Karl Malone having more total points than MJ to destroy the LeBron debate. MJ played less seasons. The same goes for Vince Carter fans saying he was a better in game dunker than MJ. Yet in 22 seasons Vince had 941 dunks compared to over 2900 in game dunks for MJ in 7 less seasons. There's not a single dunk that Vince did that MJ couldn't do....but Vince could never jump from the free throw line while cocking it back and bending his legs.
Been saying the same for years about VC and MJ. He's the best in game dunker ever and nobody's even close at 2nd. Especially considering the peak era of bigs MJ did it in.
I really do think if Jordan didn't miss those 5 year's in his prime that Jordan would have 8 rings possibly 9, NO matter what people say Jordan's the GOAT and always will be the GOAT!!!!!!
When you think you're great, you tell someone you're great. When you're the greatest, people around you will tell you that you're the Greatest Of All Time. Thats the difference between a great player and the GOAT.
Es increíble ver a MJ la disciplina que se tenía con el mismo que no tiene tatoo en su cuerpo , ese hombre realmente sabía lo que el quería ser el mejor de lo tiempos y lo logró , no habrá comparación con ningún jugador de estos tiempos, ese hombre tenía estilo , flotaba en el aire , este man es un alien
Me: Even if Lebron plays countless decades, surpassing MJ, KB, Steph, Kareem and other former NBA legends a million times....he will always be just 'One of the best player in NBA'.. But never come close to GOAT debate
This reminds me of when I was at my fitness gym about 3 years and they had a basketball on the second floor. Long story short, I was getting free to score, but was missing easy buckets because I hadn't played any kind of ball in about 15 years so I was out of synch. I was so angry and distraught at myself! But rather than let it get to me, I readjusted and went into my guard mode. I sacrificed trying to score and focused on setting up my teammates. But the guy guarding me knew I still had some game left, so he stuck with me and I was able to draw him away from the middle and let my teammate who was hot, do his thing. As a result, we won three straight games and I only scored about eight points in all those games. It's a good thing I saw some of the best guards and floor generals in their prime while growing up! All that to say that if LeBron was the basketball historian he claims to be, he would've never said what he said!
Jordan was extraordinary. Nothing like you have never seen before. Remarkable. Incredible. It wasn't just a killer mid range fade away jump shot. Some shots just would have you like, wow. We didn't see that coming. And he made it look easy. It wasn't just the jump shot. It has never been anyone quite like him. Nothing in comparison. Kobe came close. But never could pull off on the fly some of the most unforgettable moments in NBA history. It was a lot of good players and teams that couldn't win unless Jordan retired. Lebron has teams that's beat him 6 different times in his finals run. The Buffalo Bills made it 4 str8 times without winning. There you go lebron. You belong in that same boat with them. He lucky to have four and not just 2. Someone else had to win it. He loaded up on teams to assemble a team that worked, give a little edge. If it wasn't for Ray Allen Spurs get them twice in a role. If it wasn't for Kylie the warriors get them also. He luck he has 4 🏆. With 3 different teams. Lebron has accomplished some great stats during a 20 year career. Tom Brady has 7. Now who's really better? Jordan has 7 rings total. My Tarheels and the Bulls never lost a finals appearance. Get mad kid from Ohio
This may be beyond the scope of this video but Lebron's behaviour is typically that of a man raised without a father as to a man raise by one. Lebron is always in his feelings and he's manipulative like a female while Micheal display humility and the composure of a real man never disrespect another man legacy for selfish gain it a shame to even have this boy's name mentioned in the same breath as a real man. Happy Brithday MJ!! the man, the G.O.A.T, the Legends Legend.
Lol that’s because he didn’t have one..but still he has the responsibility to better himself as a person he still has that child like mentality unlike Jordan
To me, deep down Lebron knows he couldn't surpass Jordan with championships and even if he did, it took him much longer and more tries. So with his career winding down, he chose the only thing he knew he could have over Jordan and that's the scoring title. Now that he's got that, he's just going to coast to retirement. Great video as always.
Lebron for his career is shooting only 37% outside of 3 feet and in the playoffs that goes down to 31%. This to me is a huge weakness and Jordan didn't have any...not one. If you combine this with Jordan being SIGNIFICANTLY better on defense and also much better in clutch moments (especially in the playoffs where Lebron has many meltdowns) it's just really not a contest. Lebron is probably the 2nd best player I've watched since the early 80s but the gap between him and Jordan is actually pretty big.
Everyone seems to forget that LBJ was drafted on 2003 yet he was nothing during the early 2000's he got his first championship after his trade in Miami with 2 superstars and the best supporting cast yet hi got destroyed by the old dudes from the spurs, not to mention that LBJ fans disrespected Ray Allen on 2013 after saving LBJ's ass and giving him his back to back championship.
I was a big fan of Lebron for many years but the first time he called himself the goat my jaw about touched the floor because of all the reasons you mentioned. The fact that I never heard any player call themselves the goat, and how MJ always gave the utmost respect to the greats he never played against and refused to call himself the goat when absolutely most people were, it was so off putting that Lebron said that. Lebron has been very interested in building his resume on an individual basis and totally motivated to stat padding over anything else including winning...which is why a goat plays the game. Period. Exclamation mark etc. etc. etc. Also a P.S. as far as Lebron getting the "all time scoring record." Who's the better scorer, the guy who's the all time points leader or has the highest scoring average which is Jordan at 30.1 to Lebron at 27.2. also Lebron has one scoring title in 20 years.MJ has 10 scoring titles. So the all time points scored record has been a media hype for recent ratings and talking points but doesn't mean as much when analyzed.
I've been comparing LeBron to Emmit Smith ever since it was a foregone conclusion he would break the record. So glad he included that in this video. If Barry or Walter had the longevity Emmit had they'd be number 1. If Jordan has the longevity Kareem and LeBron had at the he'd be number one. Kareem has 488 games over Jordan. That would give Jordan an extra 8000 points if you extrapolate his average out. Of course he would've had a gradual decline. But he averaged 25 with Washington. So, the decline wouldn't have meant much.
Don't even compare how Emmitt and LeBron are the same. Emmitt never said he was the best in fact he has said Payton is the best and Barry would have broken the record and put it out of reach for him. Emmitt never manipulates the news by hiring Shannon Sharpe and Nick Wright to spread his propaganda
@@davidstewart799 dude... I'm not saying EVERY aspect of them is the same. I'm only talking about the scoring record. Calm your dumbass down and learn how to comprehend what you read.
