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Stephen Jackson, Jelani McCoy and Bonzi Wells discuss who belongs in the GOAT debate.
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@jordanjenkins1671
@jordanjenkins1671 2 месяца назад
MJ's legacy is flawless: never guilty of lack of effort or giving up in games, 2 threepeats, turned Chicago into a franchise that will be respected forever, FMVP in every Finals and 6-0 in the Finals.
@frankthetank405
@frankthetank405 2 месяца назад
He literally quit in the middle of his career … fym
@LOR14739
@LOR14739 2 месяца назад
@@frankthetank405quitted after the 1st 3-peat. What more you could ask for? The self-proclaimed GOAT quitted in the middle of the game and with still minutes to go in a game. He also load managed numerously in between seasons which a worst form of quitting.
@Traylormade_Chief
@Traylormade_Chief 2 месяца назад
It's not even close to flawless
@Traylormade_Chief
@Traylormade_Chief 2 месяца назад
​@@LOR14739lol. U r obviously out of ur mind.
@RandyAriss
@RandyAriss 2 месяца назад
💯 bro couldn’t have said it better . MJ than everyone else
@brandonappling5193
@brandonappling5193 2 месяца назад
Jordan Accomplished more than LeBron and Kobe in less years played that’s a fact Jordan is the undisputed GOAT the most decorated player in the leagues history
@hashmoncrief6965
@hashmoncrief6965 2 месяца назад
Jordan knows he got lucky when Magic Johnson falsely got diagnosed with hiv, cuz Jordan wouldn't of had his first 3 peat. Kobe, finally helping Shaq win a championship after 8 years, not one😮 but three in a row, Haters will give reasons why not, but if not for Kobe, Shaq might only have one ring. And let's not forget, the moves that Michael Jordan stole from other great NBA players, Kobe just made them greater.
@NOFACE8779
@NOFACE8779 2 месяца назад
EVERYBODY give Jordan a pass even tho he quit twice lol
@Rubrick23.
@Rubrick23. 2 месяца назад
​@@hashmoncrief6965magic does have aids. And he lost to mj.😅
@Rubrick23.
@Rubrick23. 2 месяца назад
​@@NOFACE8779you can't quite if you on top. If your winning its not quitting. It's retiring. 😅
@eib3137
@eib3137 2 месяца назад
Courtesy of David Stern
@AvisBailey
@AvisBailey 2 месяца назад
MJ and Mamba
@GS-mh6ub
@GS-mh6ub 2 месяца назад
1. Jordan 2. Kobe 3. Everbody else
@peterkoroma7876
@peterkoroma7876 2 месяца назад
hahah funniest thing is when you're talking the game of basketball Bron is more complete than anyone to ever play the game. Regardless of who your favorite is Bron is the most complete
@greatone275
@greatone275 2 месяца назад
Im so glad Timmy got some love
@marinzivkovic7935
@marinzivkovic7935 2 месяца назад
💯👍
@elielmuniz3201
@elielmuniz3201 2 месяца назад
He has the most finals losses of any top 10 player..... and lost in his prime with a super team agains dallas.... MJ is the undisputed GOAT​@@peterkoroma7876
@elielmuniz3201
@elielmuniz3201 2 месяца назад
1. MJ..... 2 Kareem....3 Lebron
@rtut456
@rtut456 2 месяца назад
MJ is the sole proprietor of the Mt Rushmore
@jesusricardodominguezrosal8580
@jesusricardodominguezrosal8580 2 месяца назад
Thank you J McCoyi for mention Tim Duncan, don't forget he never had a loosing season, he Made the playoffs every year with Kobe and Shaq Lakers, Dirk Mavs, OKC with Durant, Westbrook and Harden, Gsrnet T-Wolves, Rashed Blazers, Nash Suns, Webber Kings
@Traylormade_Chief
@Traylormade_Chief 2 месяца назад
Don't forget who Tim had wit him. Cut it out. Spurs were lit
@Geemonroe11
@Geemonroe11 2 месяца назад
Khawi????? Why is his name being brought up in this conversation
@FibaFanatic
@FibaFanatic 25 дней назад
That dude must have been high as heck. Jordan, Kobe, Lebron......Kawhi? No Magic or Kareem?
@Ezedinobi
@Ezedinobi 2 месяца назад
@Stak real question. How is LeBron better than Duncan? Also Peak LeBron vs Peak Shaq. Who you got? Thanks.
@darrylharvey2520
@darrylharvey2520 2 месяца назад
👑🐐
@Madman-en8db
@Madman-en8db 2 месяца назад
If he don’t put LeBald on the top list, Bronsexual and the mainstream would kill him for that
@user-fu5zk7hs3j
@user-fu5zk7hs3j 2 месяца назад
It’s wild that the focus is who scores the best. These are team players. I guess that’s why so many guys don’t have titles. All the killer instinct in the world doesn’t equal a title
@onidtubes
@onidtubes 2 месяца назад
There's Mt. Rushmore and there is the Mt. Everest. Michael Jordan is alone on Mt. Everest.
@A.n.u.b.i.s.911
@A.n.u.b.i.s.911 2 месяца назад
When he said KD over Steph that did it for me.Out of all 4 Steph the only loyal player up there who had a better run than LeBron in his era and the Greatest Team who he is the Greatest Shooter,won all his Championships in 8 years to LeBron 20.He's 4-1 against LeBron i mean if you swapped Curry and LeBron careers and LeBron did what Curry did you guys will pick LeBron and say Curry had to go join superstars and 3 other teams just to win his 4 Championships.And y'all know I'm telling the truth 💯
@Dipset415
@Dipset415 2 месяца назад
Another thing about Steph is look at all the talent at his position and what he accomplished 💯💪🏿S.F it was only Melo KD hoe ass lebron joe Johnson who were gone give you that work. Now look at prime kemba Lowry John wall Westbrook harden cp3 rondo dame gheesh and he rose above all
@brianlarkins4250
@brianlarkins4250 2 месяца назад
How many lies had to be told in this one comment lmao. Steph is 3-2 vs Lebron also in 4 finals Steph got 0 finals MVPs again 0. Yes lead a team to 73-9 but was apart of the first team to blow a 3-1 lead. If Lebron had Steph career Lebron would be the biggest bust in nba history Steph has missed the playoffs 6 times about to 7 in 15 seasons. Lebron resume completely blows Steph out the water Steph also without KD is 2-1 it should be embarrassing for you even type this level of stupidity base in hate
@Dipset415
@Dipset415 2 месяца назад
@@brianlarkins4250 🥱lebrons go to move is where’s the foul while Steph was cheffing up the whole league💯not 5 not 6 not 7 bra won 2🥱formed another super team and barely won 1🥱then won a bubble Mickey Mouse championship and the league will gift him with the most the most rigged nba title this year vs the Celtics🥱lebron underachieved while Steph changed the game and set the NBA on fire with no gimmicks just skills. While lebrons minions are all in the media telling lie after lie🥱
@ajjones5504
@ajjones5504 2 месяца назад
I’m diehard Mike but y’all GOTTA stop dissing Kareem. Two of those Final MVP’s that Magic won actually belong to Kareem
@theonly_VT
@theonly_VT 2 месяца назад
For real.💯
@kennethharrison9409
@kennethharrison9409 2 месяца назад
Kareem had 10 finals appearances, 6 rings, the most scored points in an actual era of defense, and still has the most won games in NBA history.
@CockShoe
@CockShoe Месяц назад
Kareem or Bron have had the best basketball careers from HS to the end of their pro careers
@AlLane-ug9bp
@AlLane-ug9bp 2 месяца назад
He is in my top 200
@ajjones5504
@ajjones5504 2 месяца назад
Who’s in your top 200?
@ferdiedizon6907
@ferdiedizon6907 2 месяца назад
1 MJ 2 KOBE 3 MAGIC 4 TO 199 MJ 200 LBJ ... 😂😊😅
@CockShoe
@CockShoe Месяц назад
You couldn’t even name 200 players all time scrub😂
@koolshop1653
@koolshop1653 2 месяца назад
Lebum not top 10 he took shortcuts his whole career START THERE..n bonzi said Tim Duncan game wasn't sexy lebum ain't got no finesse to his game either nothing but bully ball smfh make it make sense
@digi_tv
@digi_tv 2 месяца назад
Kareem has 6. He played in the toughest era. There was no flagrant fouls. They banned the dunk on him in college. Btw he won on All 3 levels. High-school College Amd NBA. He's the real All Time Points Holder
@jermo1213
@jermo1213 2 месяца назад
MJ is universally considered the GOAT
@thespot5722
@thespot5722 29 дней назад
MJ & Mamba only right answers
@frankiefernandez9225
@frankiefernandez9225 2 месяца назад
MJ 💯🐐
@Civtex
@Civtex 2 месяца назад
Respect to Duncan
@user-ff3zn4ds8v
@user-ff3zn4ds8v 2 месяца назад
So if you go ask why a lot of players refuse to play with Bron..
@travesotom6890
@travesotom6890 7 дней назад
MJ, Kobe, LBJ in that order 😎
@ShaadsComicsandBeers
@ShaadsComicsandBeers 2 месяца назад
Jordan is number 1. That's the only right answer
@dparks2856
@dparks2856 2 месяца назад
That's your opinion
@katrinachavez3533
@katrinachavez3533 2 месяца назад
@@dparks2856 That's the opinion of the majority. More hall-of-famers (Cousy, Baylor, Magic, Bird, Hakeem, Shaq, Ewing, Mourning, Mutombo, McHale, Barkley, Kobe, Reggie Miller, Richmond, Iverson, T-Mac, etc.) have Black Jesus as the GOAT than any other player. Even today's best (Curry, Leonard, Durant, Tatum, Doncic, Lillard, Zion, AD, Edwards, Westbrook, Harden, Butler, Ingram, LaVine, Mitchell) view His Airness as the GOAT. You see the last poll the NBA had on the GOAT? Black Cat doubled King Flop in votes. Even the pretty lady (Jeanie Buss) that pays Queen Diva his immense salary has MJ as the GOAT. And she knows b--ball like Bo knew Nike cross-trainers. Since her extremely charismatic father taught her very well. And I can guarantee you that the majority of fans commentating here also have MJ.
@dparks2856
@dparks2856 2 месяца назад
@katrinachavez3533 Ok and my opinion is lebron is. Not worried about theirs
@ShaadsComicsandBeers
@ShaadsComicsandBeers 2 месяца назад
@@dparks2856 of course it's my opinion. I'm just talking trash. Ppl that say LeBron or Kobe or whoever else say the same thing. It's just banter at this point
@katrinachavez3533
@katrinachavez3533 2 месяца назад
@@dparks2856 Since your highest level of b-ball is at Dave & Buster's arcade, your opinion is as meaningless as carbon fiber spoilers on AMC Gremlins.
@peterkoroma7876
@peterkoroma7876 2 месяца назад
1:19 are you hearing dudes reasoning for having bron behind kobe and mike 😂😂dude said because he's physically superior
@ladhurothalwedel9465
@ladhurothalwedel9465 2 месяца назад
Ped user should not be included in any list
@ryankellz
@ryankellz 2 месяца назад
Oed user who got a tumor.on his jaw from the steroids and hadd to get it removed during 6 hr surgery.. then wore a beard thereafter.. you.meam Lebron?
@chriscummings9178
@chriscummings9178 2 месяца назад
Don’t put Jordan on any list then
@peterkoroma7876
@peterkoroma7876 2 месяца назад
ped user because h's the best you've ever seen and you can't fathom what he's doing?
@sirsir108
@sirsir108 2 месяца назад
Lebron is closer to Jerry west than mj kobe and Kareem and Duncan my opinion
@MC-sj2ji
@MC-sj2ji 2 месяца назад
MJ is 1 to me, but anyone saying Kareem gets no argument out of me. From Power Memorial High School, UCLA, Milwaukee to L.A., he was a problem. I'm cool with KB24 & Magic after that.
@FreeAgent797
@FreeAgent797 2 месяца назад
It amazes me how overlooked Kareem is in these conversations. I mean, have yall seen his resume?????
@ihabibrahim8902
@ihabibrahim8902 2 месяца назад
People really underestimate Duncan. I always said a team of "quiet" players like Stockton, Kwahi, TD, Hakeem , Scottie Pippen can beat any team in NBA history. This is a team that will get 99% of the NBA "fans" today wondering HOW??!
@ggth1990
@ggth1990 2 месяца назад
It is very funy because when you listing to some comment it look like LBJ is a average players🤣. 4 titles, 4times MVP of regular season, 4 times finals MVP, been the best player of each team a played for in 21 years in the league... Etc. I personnaly thing MJ is the goat but people have to put some respect on lebron name, because he accomplish more in is field than all those haters. Before talking shit on the web you have to ask to your self "i am in the goat conversation of which field" ? and we all know the answer.
@aleksandarhadjov8536
@aleksandarhadjov8536 2 месяца назад
"The best there ever was the best there ever will be" that's MJ 🐐
@Ambassador_Network_TV
@Ambassador_Network_TV 2 месяца назад
Fckin lies, Bron was better than him at 17
@themiseducationoftheameric7407
@themiseducationoftheameric7407 2 месяца назад
yeah Tim was dope. A nice guy too.
@vickystokes8514
@vickystokes8514 2 месяца назад
Everybody but lesoft
@leecorleone
@leecorleone 2 месяца назад
LeRoid is a quitter, flopper, bronze medalist and has a negative percentage in the finals. A NEGATIVE WIN PERCENTAGE IN THE FINALS........
@fernanr5176
@fernanr5176 2 месяца назад
Old head bullshit
@peterkoroma7876
@peterkoroma7876 2 месяца назад
just say you think he's the goat already lmao
@albolton4974
@albolton4974 2 месяца назад
When did he quit he didn't retire twice
@CockShoe
@CockShoe Месяц назад
He played the fucking Warriors like 4 times🤣 that Warrior team was as good as the ‘92 dream team idgaf what y’all say
@kauffamn1016
@kauffamn1016 14 дней назад
Lebronze is worse than retiring , he walks off the court early so many times , quitting on his team , and being a poor sport . It’s frowned upon , and disgusting .
@arianparker2482
@arianparker2482 2 месяца назад
Larry Bird, Tim Duncan and The Dream.
@user-qq5ec6vr1l
@user-qq5ec6vr1l 2 месяца назад
McCoy is right Duncan should be there
@StCropper
@StCropper 2 месяца назад
Now rank them as far as basketball skill & playstyle?
@seanwilliams6967
@seanwilliams6967 2 месяца назад
I got M.J !
@Dipset415
@Dipset415 2 месяца назад
Mj Kobe bird Hakeem tmac Wade Durant Kareem zeke embid Baylor kawhi Barkley steph Garnett Duncan both gasols Paul george cp3. Not in order these are players with game changing strengths and no glaring weaknesses that can effect the game in a multitude of ways
@CockShoe
@CockShoe Месяц назад
@@seanwilliams6967how do you have MJ? Like please explain how he has the greatest all around skill in the history of basketball…I just don’t understand the logic…he was a below average perimeter scorer wasn’t a great playmaker for his teammates and never did anything but rush the lane and yam or shoot mid range
@Wink827
@Wink827 2 месяца назад
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
@nanmanledamtong7282
@nanmanledamtong7282 2 месяца назад
Very mature conversation......
@kkuderer5
@kkuderer5 2 месяца назад
More players saying Mike than Kobe and then Lebron 🤔. Too many are saying this. It is 100% correct.
@CockShoe
@CockShoe Месяц назад
Kobe has the nostalgia and death affect in his favor…there’s no way you seriously think Kobe was a better all around player than Bron…Kobe seriously was carried to damn near all his chips
@kkuderer5
@kkuderer5 Месяц назад
@@CockShoe Kobe is 100% a more skilled player than Lebron. It’s not even close. You must have forgot that Kobe made the finals 3 years in a row without Shaq and won back to back without Shaq or any other top 75 player. I can tell you never actually watched him cause that’s a wild comment you made
@CockShoe
@CockShoe Месяц назад
@@kkuderer5 Kobe always needed a big to make up for his mistakes…there’s a reason he didn’t win anything in his prime from ‘02-‘08 he was terrible with involving his team…he had like 5 HOFers on his team in ‘04 and choked harder than any player in league history to the no offense Pistons😭 Pau was a HUGE piece in those last 2 chips he got
@CockShoe
@CockShoe Месяц назад
@@kkuderer5 Kobe shot 44% from the field for his career he took 40 shots a game and was never the all around player Bron was
@kkuderer5
@kkuderer5 Месяц назад
@@CockShoe shot percentage isn’t the determining factor. Most of Lebron’s shots come from the 0 to 3 foot area where Kobe shoots from all over the floor. I’d sure hope Lebron had a better shooting percentage. Doesn’t mean he’s a better player tho. Real hoopers know
@JSdeen87
@JSdeen87 2 месяца назад
Whole time thought that was Rasheed Wallace 😅
@darrylharvey2520
@darrylharvey2520 2 месяца назад
👑🐐
@rudykadous4005
@rudykadous4005 13 дней назад
another player having kobe over LeBron... I wonder why players have kobe higher than LeBron, while the media doesn't?...hmmmmm
@pokerNGold
@pokerNGold 2 месяца назад
No disrespect to Tim, greatest PF of all time but Tim Duncan had a great team around him with a great coach damn near his entire career
@Dipset415
@Dipset415 2 месяца назад
Tim was first team all nba like the 1st 8 years of his career won a championship and finals mvp in his 2nd year. I personally didn’t like his game and I feel like kevin Garnett would have had the same success on that team
@Aloneda3rd
@Aloneda3rd 2 месяца назад
Exactly if u give Karl Malone Garnett or even Dirk that squad they would probably do more
@CockShoe
@CockShoe Месяц назад
Duncan also played a decade too long😂 his numbers were BRUTAL at the end of his career
@55cleon
@55cleon 2 месяца назад
SHEEEEEIIIIIIID! TIM DUNCAN USING THE GLASS ON THE LEFT/RIGHT BLOCK IS "SEXY". THE PRETTIEST SHOT IN BASKETBALL IS THE KISS OFF OF THE GLASS 🤷🏿‍♂️. NO ONE USED THE GLASS BETTER THAN TIMMY 👌🏿. FUNDAMENTALS ARE SEXY. THAT'S WHAT IS MISSING FROM THE GAME TODAY...IT SHOWS!
@fredbrewer8282
@fredbrewer8282 13 дней назад
Not even a debate Kareem Mike and Kobe. Period!
@tag7376
@tag7376 2 месяца назад
That's why Jj and Bron doin the podcast they doing. BECAUSE THESE GOAT NARRATIVES, COMPARING PLAYERS, WHO THE GREATEST CONVO GETTING OLD AND TIRED.
@Ras1Ball
@Ras1Ball 2 месяца назад
Like you guys have the power to end this debate... there's no debate... it's in everyone's head... we all have our favorites... and no one can convince us otherwise... so, my question is this... are mfs just Trying to convince themselves that their choice is the right 1...
@Ezedinobi
@Ezedinobi 2 месяца назад
My Top 10 based on a Scale of 1-30 (Scale of 1-10 each for Offense, Defense, Intangibles). Only players to get a perfect 10 in any category were MJ, Wilt, Magic and Bill Russell. 1) MJ (29) 10 Offense 9 Defense 10 Intangibles 2) Wilt (28.8) 10 Offense 9 Defense 9.8 Intangibles 3) Kobe (28.2) 9.5 Offense 9 Defense 9.7 Intangibles 4) Kareem (27.5) 9.5 Offense 8.5 Defense 9.5 Intangibles 5) Dream (26.6) 8.8 Offense 9.8 Defense 8 Intangibles 6) Magic (26.5) 9.5 Offense 7 Defense 10 Intangibles 7) LeBron (26.2) 9.2 Offense 8.5 Defense 8.5 Intangibles 8) Bill Russell (26) 6 Offense 10 Defense 10 Intangibles 9)Bird (25.8) 9.3 Offense 7.5 Defense 9 Intangibles 10) Shaq (25.4) 9.4 Offense 7.5 Defense 8.5 Intangibles
@IeyeAeyeM
@IeyeAeyeM 2 месяца назад
Super cool, like the way each facet is its own then calculated.
@Ezedinobi
@Ezedinobi 2 месяца назад
@@IeyeAeyeM thanks. Wanted to provide some context to my list.
@universityoffree
@universityoffree 2 месяца назад
Wilt's intagibles were horrible. He really didn't care much about winning. He was before my time but I saw a Finals were he was just chilling on the bench in the last game with his team losing. They say you had to make him mad before he would care about anything other than his stats. I think he was so much better than everybody else, he felt a little guilty about winning.
@universityoffree
@universityoffree 2 месяца назад
Dream's intagibles well over Lebron's. Repeated with a subpar team (I know Jordan was gone). But if Lebron thinks he can't win, he starts stat padding and putting fake casts on his arm. He has the worst intagibles (on court wise).
@gumballwaterson1957
@gumballwaterson1957 2 месяца назад
Love the breakdown. I disagree on the intangibles for Wilt cause if he had intangibles only 0.2 off Wilt, I think he would've won a lot more. His playoff stats dropped a decent amount, and Bill was on record talking about how he played with Wilt mentally (with results to back it up). Idk if I'd give Kobe the same defensive rating as MJ either, or MJ the same defensive rating as Wilt, but again, good stuff.
@juneelder2997
@juneelder2997 2 месяца назад
#GoatJames💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
@chrisb5000
@chrisb5000 2 месяца назад
No player that is known for losing should be sniffing the top five in anyone's list. 4-6 in the finals. Has the record for most games lost in the finals in NBA history. While playing most of his career in the weak East and with super team after superteam. Getting swept in the finals TWICE! And almost 2 more sweeps in two 1-4 finals loses lol. And as far as mastering the game of basketball, LeBron has never been in the top 10 of most skilled players in the league in any year that he's been considered the best player in the league. His skill set is limited compared to many other greats. I can go on and on. No player with that many faults should be sniffing the top five. And stats without context are meaningless. Also Lebron got back to back bronze medals leading teams full of NBA superstars, and didn't win gold until Kobe came and gifted him the gold.
@lex6794
@lex6794 2 месяца назад
No player who quit the NBA 2X for almost a total of 6 years should be called the GOAT. No quitter who quit and walked away from his sport can be a GOAT and this dude quit twice for years. That quitter is Michael Jordan.
@Commsense750
@Commsense750 2 месяца назад
So Bill Russell is the Goat then. TRASH argument. 11-1 in the finals.
@chrisb5000
@chrisb5000 2 месяца назад
@@Commsense750 Bill Russel isn't the goat just on winning rings, because he played in an era where there were only 10 teams in the league. BUT I can understand someone arguing for Bill Russell being the goat more than for LeBron , which his biggest achievement is stat padding for 20 years.
@XL3T__
@XL3T__ 2 месяца назад
What’s yo middle school record 😂
@andrewlerma3348
@andrewlerma3348 2 месяца назад
Thank you sir 🙏 loud applause 👏 cheers to common sense 👏 the false king is a fraud
@donovananderson396
@donovananderson396 2 месяца назад
Wilt then then pick ‘em
@chitownsfinest6445
@chitownsfinest6445 2 месяца назад
Why is championships a measure of individual greatness? Championships are a team effort. Robert Horry has more championships than all of them. Is he one of the greatest?
@Dipset415
@Dipset415 2 месяца назад
Don’t be dumb my G it’s how the championships are won. Creating super teams trying to win easy championships is a straight sucka move it’s not competitive and hoe ass bron tried to take the easy way out and failed in the process and the rings he won are very questionable with the way those games were officiated 💯🤙🏿
@willawentertainment
@willawentertainment 2 месяца назад
Although he’s one of the greatest role players ever, he was never the focal point or leader of a team.
@monochrome493
@monochrome493 2 месяца назад
@@willawentertainment DUMB DUMB HIS COMMENT WAS RHETORICAL🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@chitownsfinest6445
@chitownsfinest6445 2 месяца назад
@monochrome493 so I guess you've never heard people compare Jordan to Lebron and use championships as the measuring stick? If u haven't, you telling a fkg lie which wouldn't surprise me from an asshole that can't respond without being disrespectful.
@MGPCycling
@MGPCycling 2 месяца назад
1st Team PG: Magic SG: Jordan SF: Bird PF: Hakeem C: Kareem 2nd Team PG: Steph SG: Kobe SF: LeBron PF: Duncan C: Shaq 3rd Team PG: Isiah Thomas SG: DWade SF: Durant PF: Russell C: Chamberlain
@universityoffree
@universityoffree 2 месяца назад
Can't argue too much with these teams except Russell should be on 1st team can't overlook 11 rings.. Kareem was great, but I saw 5 of his rings and Magic made them happen. Dr J over Durant (can't credit those rings). Switch Duncan (5 rings) and Hakeem.
@MGPCycling
@MGPCycling 2 месяца назад
@@universityoffree Russell's defense was above all, but his offense was too much of a liability imo. With Hakeem you approach Russell's paint defense but he's got way better offense. I'm 51/49 on Kareem over Shaq as my starting C so I don't have a strong dog on that one. I wish we counted the ABA accolades and stats in the NBA officially, because I would definitely take Dr. J above KD then. I'd take Hakeem over Duncan completely after seeing both careers in full.
@universityoffree
@universityoffree 2 месяца назад
@@MGPCycling If you're talking about putting a team on the court, then I can't argue with you. I didn't see Russell. I saw Hakeem & Duncan and eye test, or at their peak, I go with Hakeem too. Shaq over Kareem in this scenerio, but I didn't see 70s Kareem. Isiah and Steph become a debate in this scenerio too. Steph all day in the regular season. But with the money on the line in a big game? Hard to take Steph over Zeke. KD more talented than Doc, but I saw how KD folded with the pressure on in 2016 against the GSW. Then hopped on the team for his rings. But for the most part, I'm with you.
@raymondbennettjr.8845
@raymondbennettjr.8845 2 месяца назад
Good team
@EntertainmentGuru101
@EntertainmentGuru101 2 месяца назад
Bird above LBJ... come on man -_- Bird is a better shooter but that's it.
@bigl1903
@bigl1903 2 месяца назад
Bron, Kobs, Shaq, Ming, Waybem. It's Ovaa
@angelcamacho3712
@angelcamacho3712 2 месяца назад
Kobe beat Tim in the playoffs more times than Tim won and mine also beat him one on one.
@judahmourneth3211
@judahmourneth3211 2 месяца назад
He had shaq for some of those wins. Tim won more as the head guy for his teams Vs Kobe
@Sldumas1983
@Sldumas1983 2 месяца назад
@@judahmourneth3211young fella that’s not so go back and watch those finals, Kobe with a lesser team put 30 on Duncan do your research
@Sldumas1983
@Sldumas1983 2 месяца назад
@@judahmourneth3211that’s a narrative sir Shaq didn’t win nothing until Kobe and Kobe kept them in the run for the championship whe Shaq fouled out and he went on a 40 point streak until Shaq came back 😂 make it make sense
@judahmourneth3211
@judahmourneth3211 2 месяца назад
@@Sldumas1983 who was the best player and most impactful player to the lakers dynasty out the two. Shaq.
@judahmourneth3211
@judahmourneth3211 2 месяца назад
@@Sldumas1983as the franchise players for their teams Duncan accomplished more than Kobe. This is not even a debate sir. Young fella, I’m 41 I actually lived and watched that era. Separate your fanboy feelings and talk basketball
@adamsamuel8593
@adamsamuel8593 23 дня назад
Its simple MJ Kobe Curry Lebron
@browneric68
@browneric68 2 месяца назад
Man a lot of ppl as in players formers and current don’t even have LBJ in their top 5 and it’s a reason why so many fans don’t have LBJ in top five does that mean he didn’t have a great career or he wasnt great no it doesn’t
@ArmandoKozomara
@ArmandoKozomara 2 месяца назад
Kobe and MJ and then everyone else
@ITECAUDIOSTUDIOS
@ITECAUDIOSTUDIOS 2 месяца назад
Magic? 🥶 5 chips in 12 years
@ChessChemo
@ChessChemo 2 месяца назад
There's no such thing as 1A, 1B, 1C. That's a cop out. There's 1, 2 and 3.
@mr.e347
@mr.e347 2 месяца назад
MJ Bird The rest
@GiantsRebel
@GiantsRebel 2 месяца назад
What was Jordan doing at 39??? Oh i'll wait.....
@kauffamn1016
@kauffamn1016 14 дней назад
You lebron fans 😂using age for a debate . Only thing lebron won in his entire 30s was a Disney bubble title, and fmvp , wich AD should’ve won . That’s it bro . Jordan won multiple titles , regular season mvps and scoring titles . Enough with this , at 38 what did mj do 😂.
@GiantsRebel
@GiantsRebel 13 дней назад
@@kauffamn1016 how many NBA seasons did MJ play???
@entertainingsportshighligh7525
@entertainingsportshighligh7525 2 месяца назад
LEBRON been GREAT in his Young Days, and he's still Great as an OLD MAN. Both JORDAN and KOBE been Great in their Young Days, but was Average Players as OLD MEN. There for LEBRON = G.O.A.T.
@TommyCorleone
@TommyCorleone 2 месяца назад
You mean Lebum PED using good at an old age. If thats the case I agree lol LEARN THE GAME!!! BLASPHEMOUS to compare him to Jordan !! After you get schooled and destroyed by JJ Berea and completely dissapear in that series as a choker the debate is over !! Mike never chocked and made all those fools on his team because after 98 they all did nothing
@byroncameron6503
@byroncameron6503 2 месяца назад
If we going by eye sight what you said is correct
@chrisb5000
@chrisb5000 2 месяца назад
The goat is not based on longevity awards.
@Rubrick23.
@Rubrick23. 2 месяца назад
What? Nothing average about kobe, or Jordan. 😅
@TommyCorleone
@TommyCorleone 2 месяца назад
@@Rubrick23. Forgive him lol He's a prisoner of the moment and needs to learn the game !!! Lebum is not even better than Bird lol
@blackjesus6433
@blackjesus6433 2 месяца назад
Sorry, but it's MJ, Kareem, Magic, and Russell. Everyone else is behind them. 🙏🏾
@matthewhawkins2379
@matthewhawkins2379 2 месяца назад
The thing I look at is Jordan won with the hand he was dealt with more accomplishments in less time span then all them in a more physical Era playing almost the whole season not taking games off yea Jordan had pippen and Rodman but they wasn't no Shaq not taking nothing from kobe because his last ring he carried that squad and lebron as good as he is I can't really respect his rings because no matter what u lebron fans say his squad was juiced up on some 2k level type of teams
@alfredespx
@alfredespx 2 месяца назад
My Top 10 all time 1. MJ 2. Kobe 3. Duncan 4. Curry 5. Shaq 6. Kareem 7. Magic 8. Lebron 9. Bird 10. KD
@user-ff3zn4ds8v
@user-ff3zn4ds8v 2 месяца назад
Bron looses points because of his characters ristic got coaches fired and player's kick off teams
@peterkoroma7876
@peterkoroma7876 14 дней назад
Bron everything you wanted shaq to be and people still complaining xD
@user-wz7eb9lj7f
@user-wz7eb9lj7f 2 месяца назад
IF YOU WANT TO GIVE IT TO SOMEONE WHO: FLOPS PROCLAIMS HE IS THE GOAT SCARED OF TAKING 4TH QTR SHOTS LOVES TO TEAM UP WITH OTHER SUPERSTARS .. so be it.
@kerhin
@kerhin Месяц назад
We put to much emphasis on stats when talking about the GOAT. It hard to compare using these metrics because each player played in different eras and under different circumstances. The GOAT isn’t about stats but more about skills. It’s about put each player in the same situation all things equal who would have excelled. If we use stats then Wilt or Kareem have to be in the GOAT conversation but they are not so stats can’t quantify who’s the GOAT. I’ve had the pleasure of watching Jordan, Bryant, and James and it indisputable that Jordan is the GOAT followed by Bryant a close second. James have been a great player but have too many weaknesses to be the GOAT. He requires more to succeed. James needs certain type of players to succeed. Jordan and Kobe only need an additional all star caliber player and they will win championships. In addition, LeBron have played with more great players in a softer league and have less rings that tells you all you need to know.
@KeshawnHarris-hv8qr
@KeshawnHarris-hv8qr Месяц назад
Like who you like it's all opinion based but LeBron 1 take your pick with 2 and after that it's just talk
@ManagerMatt1
@ManagerMatt1 2 месяца назад
Kobe literally is behind LBJ in every possible stat except free throw shooting... Even head to head LBJ dominated him across the board. KObe wasnt even the best player on his own team half his career, by the time Shaq left, LBJ was already the best player in the NBA...
@andreawilliams4778
@andreawilliams4778 2 месяца назад
You sound Dumb AF
@williampettis1831
@williampettis1831 2 месяца назад
How u not put wilt Chamberlain in your conversation so disrespectful
@AarioneAbrahood
@AarioneAbrahood 2 месяца назад
A big can't be the best because they can't shoot as good
@reconstructione-dub7802
@reconstructione-dub7802 2 месяца назад
Kobe is The G.O.A.T. Most Skilled...Mamba Out
@prodigyy8
@prodigyy8 2 месяца назад
Dont like Lebron, but he top 3 for sure. But if Im building a team, Lebrons not on it.
@theonly_VT
@theonly_VT 2 месяца назад
Magic got 5. Kareem got 5. Sorry, Tim isn't better than either one of those players. Tim didn't stop shit. It was their time to lose. How many times did KOBE end Tim's ass.
@mookboy4514
@mookboy4514 2 месяца назад
Lol somebody said bron aint top 5 😂😂
@theonly_VT
@theonly_VT 2 месяца назад
I'm sorry KD isn't over not Steph and neither is Bron.
@arturoluna475
@arturoluna475 2 месяца назад
Bron fans are indignant and flabbergasted 😆
@melgoat
@melgoat 2 месяца назад
Got LeBron 6th all time
@thecliffold5879
@thecliffold5879 2 месяца назад
Lebron broke the all time turnovers record too
@Stopphating
@Stopphating 2 месяца назад
There’s definitely wrong answers lol kawhi over KD is a wrong answer SMH
@bobbyjimenez4482
@bobbyjimenez4482 2 месяца назад
My GOAT is kobe but the GOAT is MJ... if lebron will win 6 championship and will be 40k 10k, 10k..he will be the goat
@TheWizeGod74
@TheWizeGod74 2 месяца назад
The weirdest comment section ever lol
@Keysade
@Keysade 2 месяца назад
Mount Rushmore is Kareem, Kobe, Lebron and Jordan
@disciple37mt
@disciple37mt 2 месяца назад
The only reasons this is a debate bc you don’t have to have any knowledge in anything just fast fingers and caught in the moment of what’s hot! Jordan stands alone at the goat! Lebron lost 6 period!
@forkhead679
@forkhead679 2 месяца назад
No Pippen did not . Don't believe the hype . Documentation and eyes of those that watched in real-time don't lie . Do your research ! Stop it !
@Rubrick23.
@Rubrick23. 2 месяца назад
I'm sorry but Kawhi Leonard get some more praise than anyone out of that group because he did it himself
@jeromeestrada6087
@jeromeestrada6087 2 месяца назад
What?!don’t forget how lbj got those championship..he’s not in the same level as mj and kobe..😂😂😂whatsoever!😂😂😂
@AnnAnn-il2lk
@AnnAnn-il2lk 2 месяца назад
What haters need to do rank them self against king James y'all are just haters
@brown7104
@brown7104 2 месяца назад
1AMJ 1BKobe 1CLebron No better way to put it
@myselfandeye3884
@myselfandeye3884 2 месяца назад
I am a Laker fan and we've had goats on our teams since the 50's/60's. I am watching LeBron and I really don't see greatness. I see a great player but I don't see an MJ, Kobe, Magic, Bird and so on. I mean, yeah he is still good at 39, but it's about the results and he is 4 and 6 in the finals. He only got to those finals because he played in the weak east. As a Laker fan I have MJ on nr 1 and I used to hate the guy.
@chrisb5000
@chrisb5000 2 месяца назад
Exactly. To me LeBron is just an above average player that has been doing it at that level for a very long time. Which is great because that is super rare to do. But he doesn't have that "magical", wow Factor. Like Jordan or Kobe , Magic, Bird, had. That they amaze you with incredible plays or shots almost every game. You never know what's going to happen. With LeBron you know exactly what he's going to do because he has a very limited skill set. When he goes for his dunks, it's going to be one of three dunks he always does.
@vickystokes8514
@vickystokes8514 2 месяца назад
Lebron is not a great player.
@jamesmartin5347
@jamesmartin5347 2 месяца назад
So what u see in the bubble ? Was that not greatness 🥱 👑
@_teezyDaVIs
@_teezyDaVIs 2 месяца назад
Kobe didn’t get in goat conversation until he died 🤷🏽‍♂️
@DFlowetry
@DFlowetry Месяц назад
You a casual if you think that. Kobe had the Jordan debate faithfully on espn starting around 2003. The Kobe, Jordan debate got serious around 2006 as well up until 2012. Around 2014 is when the media switched up on Kobe and starting pushing Lebron with Mj
@jdrobin1
@jdrobin1 2 месяца назад
1. Bron 2. Mj 3. KAJ 4. Magic 5. Duncan
@ShaadsComicsandBeers
@ShaadsComicsandBeers 2 месяца назад
Great list.
@judahmourneth3211
@judahmourneth3211 2 месяца назад
I don’t understand how you have lebron number 1. Especially with a 4-6 finals record
@melgoat
@melgoat 2 месяца назад
Having a dude with a losing legacy at the top is so wrong imo. Sports/competition at it essence has always been about winning
@jdrobin1
@jdrobin1 2 месяца назад
@@melgoat so Bill Russell is the GOAT. Gotcha
@jdrobin1
@jdrobin1 2 месяца назад
@judahmourneth3211 Jerry West is the Logo with a 1-9 finals record. Rings are team achievements. Bron is the best all-around player ever in my opinion.
@clarissawestbrook2203
@clarissawestbrook2203 2 месяца назад
1) Michael Jordan 🐐🐐 2) Kobe Bryant 🐍🐍 3) LeBron James 👑👑
@broderickjohnson1427
@broderickjohnson1427 2 месяца назад
MJ, Bron,Kobe....
@MrCreed-ss2ve
@MrCreed-ss2ve 2 месяца назад
KOBE 🐍.
@terrancesalazar3162
@terrancesalazar3162 2 месяца назад
We done with the 90s 😂Stephen Jackson sucks 😂 stop commenting on sports please and thank you
@salvadorromeromolina3719
@salvadorromeromolina3719 2 месяца назад
1. Steph,2.Hakeem,3.Isaiah,4. Michael,5. Tim,6.Larry,7.Magic,8.Shaq,9. Kobe ,10.Klay,11.Scpttie,12.Leflop
@manupbandup23
@manupbandup23 2 месяца назад
Mj,Kobe and curry Top 3
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