Not really, just like NBA players aren’t their own coaches. Jay cutler had insane genetics and worked hard but most of his info is very outdated. There’s no such thing as a finishing movement vs mass builder movement. When you do a set near failure in the gym, the muscle that got close to failure had all its fibers stimulated and that triggers muscle protein synthesis to be elevated for a few hours. It’s really that simple. No hate to jay and you could prolly learn a lot from him but the science of muscle growth wasn’t really figured out back in his day so not that lol
@@smallfry7304yes. 16-20 sets per body part is the ideal amount. Especially if you want to blow it up quick. Any less and you’re leaving gains on the table unless you’re a beginner. Any more and you’re probably over training
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THIS. I do something similar. Normal speed to the top, slow descent, and then on my last rep I pause at the top as long as I can tolerate it. It's torture, but I have learned to love it.
I like to do these in conjuction with hamstring curls right after a big leg press or squat set. Definitely always do big muscle group workouts, into isolation for those same muscles.
I do the same workout for legs and my leg press has blown up, I went from 160 for 10 to hitting 500 for 10 today, my leg extension and leg curl strength has doubled as well, this is just from one month of consistently working out
I've got some left knee pain with squats. Leg extensions and Sissy squats are all i can do right now without any pain. Love leg extensions, they give me a great pump!
Planet fitness leg day go like this: hit five sets on the calf extension machine. Then hit five sets on the leg extension machine, then five on the leg curl machine, then 5 on the leg press machine. All seated and cushioned machines with very low chance of injury with the ability to push as much intensity as you can manage. Smith machines are there if you want to do squats and so is a rackable leg press machine. If you are brand new you can start your legs with the workout laid out in this comment with the resistance settings at their lowest point.
Love them & discovered doing them reclined is exponentially better. I discovered not being able to walk after an exercise when I started doing reclined extensions. Insane difference.
I always do some sets of pause reps on extensions after a heavy squat workout, getting a damn good burn after a strength exercise always feels so great
I do leg extension first, 20,18,16,14,12 then I move to squat 15,12,10 then leg press 20,18,16,14,12 then finish with lunges. My quads are pumped after that.
One of my favorite exercise ever. Like Tom Platz do alot of repetitions. Either nice and slow or explosive. Can do the whole stack on any machine so weight doesnt really matter to me. Amazing pumps and burn sensations. Always do more sets and reps, quick or slow depending on what angles and what weight ranges.
@@Carlos-n2g5j yes. Drop sets are effective, although I prefer pyramid and reverse pyramid. Adjusting variations in set and rep numbers whether I'm going up the scale or down.
I do think for more advanced lifters, they utilize isolation movements like these for pre-exhaustion and use it at the start, bit for beginners to intermediates it’s much better to use your freshest state for compound exercises instead and do extensions after
I've actually never really thought about it and have always decided in advance which exercises I should do and in what order and I now suspect that I may have wasted a little potential. Where could I find out more about how the different exercises are differentiated according to these 3 criteria?
Also good for one of the craziest burns you can get on an exercise. I think it's because it works a large muscle group, but there isn't a real way to cheat to get the weight up like most excercises.
I love Jay’s advice so much more that Mentzer’s. So much less pompous and gets straight to the point. Still takes his rest days but just keeps it real. Every time I watch a Mentzer short it’s always so vague and him just talking about rest.
I like to do all of my compound lifts and movements first so that I’m not tiring out one muscle by isolating it doing something like leg extensions. I usually do them at the end
Maybe someone here has a few tips: I train legs 1x every week consistently but I see almost no strenght and muscle gain. I usually start with either Smith Squats for 3 sets, denn legextensions or legpress, both 3-4 sets, after this I do leg curls for 3-4 sets and sometimes I do abductor and adductors too. On Extensions, Legpress and Curls I usually try to do 1 Dropset per LegDay (lower the weihht atleast 2 times)
Hack squats and Bulgarian split squats are the only 2 movements where i feel my quads burning. Never felt my quads when I did squats, leg press and extentions.
What if I fractured my patella and had reconstructive surgery? I've been told to steer clear from leg extensions. I try flexing my quads at the end of every squat but I can never get them as pumped as when I used to do leg extensions.
I do the same, these are my warm ups before squats. But I do a lot more reps. 20-25 then progressive go heavier weight down to 12 reps. And hold a 5-10 second count and squeeze the quad s 😭😭😭
If you think it's too easy try holding to top contracted position for 2-3 seconds and 3-4 seconds eccentric Try that and I'm sure you'll cry as you achieve failure on the machine
I do leg extensions and leg curls on upper body days 😁 and all my workouts are 4x15 I havent worked out my legs in 10 years and have seen a growth in durability, flexibility, strength, size, and toneness within 3 months! Stay flexy! Stay hard!
I always do these after hack squats. Usually 4 or 5 sets of those and 4 or 5 sets of these and kind of freestyle it for the remainder of my leg workout. Been working out great for me
I do the same thing I warm my legs up starting th3 workout with it and then I Finish the work out with them , well I finish with the Calfs but it's next to last
Leg Extension is a great finishing exercise after you've done some heavy squats and leg presses. It's never ever the first exercise though, that would just fatigue and weaken my legs.
3 sets leg extensions, 3 hack squats, 3 regular squat, 3 leg press, 3 deadlift, throw in an extra set on one or two of them or try two different but similar machines for 3 sets each. I'm pretty sure that's how he trains each muscle. So for instance this is his quad routine. But it also compounds with hamstrings. Ideally each muscle gets 20 sets per week. Use good heavy weight. As much as you can handle.
@@swingonthespiral that’s wayyyyy more volume than is needed for almost anyone but a pro enhanced bodybuilder. 6-12 sets per week per muscle group should be a starting point for most people.
