Legendary Cheater Todd Rogers Just Lost Another Lawsuit 

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Good grief, that “Silly Bitchell” line caught me off guard lmao. I’m never calling him by his real name ever again.

"Todd Rogers has claimed more fake world records than anyone else." Finally a legit world record

I love the Todd Togers cases. They feel like side stories following a tertiary character in the Silly Bitchell extended universe.

I love how Karl can keep a relaxed voice when saying stuff like "silly bitchell". Never change, Karl

"While Billy Mitchel lawsuits have a tendency to last years, Todd's end up failing after just a few months." With such a natural talent for speedrun, if the guy had put that kind of effort in video games, he would've had a few legitimate world records by now.

Hi Karl! Lawyer here. As always, I am very impressed by your non-lawyer legal analysis. The reason Twin Galaxies and Guinness cannot recover fees from Todd is that in the U.S. parties typically bear their own attorneys’ fees absent an agreement (i.e. a contract) or specific statute that allows the prevailing party to recover attorneys’ fees. Parties usually cannot get fees for winning a standard tort case. However, parties can recover “costs” like filing fees-but early on the filing fees (~$1,000) are not worth the expense of filing a motion. Theoretically, Twin Galaxies or Guinness could recover attorneys’ fees by filing a malicious prosecution action against Todd. However, a malicious prosecution claim is hard to prove because it requires showing a lack of “probable cause” and, even if successful, would take years to adjudicate. After being dismissed, most clients are just happy they aren’t being sued anymore and move on. Todd can try again in Florida if the dismissal was “without prejudice.” If the dismissal was with prejudice, Todd cannot refile an amended complaint in the same case. The personal jurisdiction holding means that Todd cannot sue Guinness and Twin Galaxies in Florida, but leaves open the possibility that he could theoretically sue them where they are based (assuming the claims are still timely). I guess we will have to stay tuned to see what happens next. Thanks for the great vid.

The best part: One of the games gave you like 2000 points and then started counting down in intervals of 5 until you win. His Highscore? 999,999 He just went down a list of games and wrote his name and a high number on it, at least 100 times greater than the current number 1 player. He never even started or looked at most of the games once. I think playing "Have you seen this game before" with him would be great. And Todd has to guess if he is the self-proclaimed world record holder who blow everyone out of the water or has never played it. "Oh yeah I have the record" "No, you are not in the list." "Never seen that game before" "oh yeah? you are 300 times higher than any other player ever according to this highscore..."

Back in 2010 when I was pursuing the Yars’ Revenge world record high score, there was a category for a 15 minute contest, wherein Todd led the leaderboard with a 700k score. I constantly puzzled over techniques to figure out how he could have scored that high that quickly. The pace of Yars Revenge starts slow, and simply doesn’t allow this. I should have figured he just made up that score. My WR submission to Twin Galaxies at that time even included some commentary on Todd’s 15 minute record. I should dig up that VHS tape.

Dude legit claimed over 2000 records in an interview? Insane.

At first I felt quite antagonistic towards Todd for his obvious lies. But seeing more of him, I feel just sorry for him. His entire personality and identity is built around a lie, to which he clung onto way too long. What Todd needs isn't a lawyer, it's a therapist.

The courts just don't get it. They're not accounting for the "human element" in his lawsuits

Tod Roger’s second lawsuit lasted 5.51 seconds in the court room.

Lawyer here! Will they get their costs back in any fashion? Highly doubtful. The odds of them seeking costs (if not done so already in their motion) are low. But even if they do, Todd is what we call "judgment proof" meaning he doesn't have any assets they can take (assuming that in this jurisdiction a sanction award/cost shifting award can attach to property like a judgment can). And then, of course, even if they did get an award for their costs, he just wouldn't pay them.

Todd's lawsuits are so short because he is trying to master speedrunning the "lawyerless" category, it has no marathon safe strats, but that just goes to show how hardcore of a speedrunner this man really is.

Judges and lawyers must be like “oh god not another twin galaxies lawsuit”

The funny thing is that these guys are WAY more famous than anyone with a real world record will ever be

Todd should have started his lawsuit in second gear

Todd Togers may not have the world record for Dragster, but if he keeps it up he'll have the world record for most frivolous lawsuits in no time!

Todd Togers is an absolute legend, in his own mind.

I love how Karl calls Todd Rogers an idiot three times, lmao. What a legend.

I love how hard Karl is swinging on these idiots. You can only push a good man so far before he pushes back.

I swear, Todd and Billy are like that comedy relief villian duo you see in cartoons like Team Rocket.

I literally died at “Silly Bitchell.” I had to be resuscitated and am now hospitalized.

Wow. I remember finding your channel all those years ago when you dual commentated one of Goose's Speedlores (I think they were trying to branch into PD-Lore at the time). So it brings deep warmth to my heart that Todd (and Billy) are still giving you so much material to work with... And I love every dang seccond of it... Keep it up, dude!

It's truly saddening to see Todd Roges go through this when he is objectively the greatest human being ever made

I never would have expected to be so invested in the "idiot cheaters suing people" series but here we are.

This was equal parts savage and hilarious. I try not to find too much joy in other people's failings but I'll be damned if I didn't laugh multiple times during this video

I love how you just casually sneaked the word "Bitchell" in there 1:18, had to replay it to catch it hahaha.

Todd Togers never fails to surprise and entertain me- more so than a lot of the internet drama recently

Todd Rogers seems like the kind of guy who'd go to random gatherings in the park and stand around until someone asks what he's doing there, just so he can tell them he has 2,000 world records.

"Silly Bitchell" and "Todd Todgers" 😂 brilliant 👏

With respect to costs, they'd need to provide proof of whatever costs they asserted. Rogers would also get an opportunity to defend against the asserted costs so he could demand a hearing. Ultimately even with the bare minimum obstinance from Rogers it would probably cost almost as much to get costs as it did to write a response to the original lawsuit, because you have to pay the lawyers to sit in court all day until their case is called.

I WAS JUST ABOUT TO GO TO SLEEP! DAMNIT KARL!

I just imagine the lawyers at Guinness and Twin Galaxies phoning each other when the latest lawsuit comes around, going over the papers and sharing a good (if slightly tired) laugh at the contents. They should frame the lawsuit and display it in their offices as the easiest win they've ever had.

I literally never heard of this man until I discovered these videos. At least with Billy Mithcell I've seen AVGN mention him as well as seen the Regular Show episode that makes fun of him but never Todd Rogers. Before I watched these he was always a complete stranger.

Not only can you not serve by certified mail in this type of case, but the summons papers literally say that the Plaintiff CANNOT be the one to serve them. He didn’t even read the instruction

Todd Togers and Milly Bitchell are a comedy gold mine. Thanks for keeping us updated and entertained Karl, you're an absolute legend.

Karl quickly becoming the most knowledgeable Aussie on Florida law.

3:56 "Todd Todgers" sounds kinda appropriate tbh.

I lvoe your videos; recenty found your channel, and devouring all of it. You're hilarious. Hope these guys fail at coming after you, because you're the hero we need :)

Wow Togers couldn’t even respond to the motions to dismiss within 14 days, let alone in 5.51 seconds.

The fact that at this point you're just going ham on them because they will sue you even if you don't is amazing.

0:43 I legit had to rewind it back twice to make sure I heard that name right 😂😂😂 Thanks to you, I’ve been on speed running for the past 2 years and last month I decided to start speed running Golden Eye since it had a remake. But besides that, you do a great cover on these guys and I love the content! Im a happy subscriber 😎

The Todd Togers saga indeed never ends. Also Billy being named "Silly Bitchell" is just hilarious.

We need a King of Kong type documentary with Todd Todgers and Silly Bitchell filing and losing lawsuit after lawsuit.

0:42 That caught me off-guard, kudos for the savagery lmao

Lol I love that the "Most replayed" point is to skip the stupid mid-video ad. I hate those, so thank you previous viewers for all doing the same thing enough times! :D

I will say this. I used to be a Todd Rogers believer. Todd and I used to be friends; in fact, he was a huge motivator in me quitting smoking back in the late 2000's/early 2010's. But man, seeing all of this has just made it all go downhill. I used to have faith in his impossible Dragster, but that's been straightened out in my head. Take care of yourself, Todd. You can be a better man.

Not a lawyer but I do work in litigation - my guess is they are very aware that he's not going to be able to pay up re costs, and consider the idea of chasing those to be more trouble than it's worth. Whether they'd be so lenient a second time would be interesting to see.

I don't know how I fell down this rabbit hole, but I've watched a few of these Billy Mitchell and Todd Rogers videos now and where is the Netflix series?

Im loving Karl's lawyer arc 👨‍💼

Karl's savagery has improved 10 fold after this whole Silly situation. I love it

As echoed in many other comments, I love how you've just given up hiding how ridiculous you find these charlatans. Your videos were beyond entertaining before, and even more so now! It's admirable how much research you do onto the exact reasons why they're such idiots. You're an absolute legend.

idk why but hearing "Hello you absolute legends" always makes me smile.

I would honestly love to see a live stream between you Billy and Todd where you ask them questions and they have to answer and have it out 😂

"Silly Bitchell" just broke me. Well played.

After the absolute annihilation of Todgers, I feel bad for him. Basing your entire identity on a lie, with no money in it, living in squalor, and having the lies exposed, leaving nothing. Nothing. What a crazy way to choose to live.

0:42 Silly *itchel had me dead

Haha the opening clip with Billy flipping the bird is my hometown in NH.

Todd should have already been in second gear before the lawsuit was filed.

Karl woke up and chose violence 😂 He just came out swinging! “Sheer patheticness” “Silly Bitchell” “Because Todd, is an idiot” Glorious 🤣

I like how this is basically revolving around 60 year olds arguing about high scores.

For the legal cost issue: Yes, a judge WOULD likely affirm a reasonable asking amount for costs. The fact it was thrown out so quickly only strengthens that likeliness since the court obviously and correctly saw it was a clown show being run by an idiot simply to waste time and try and coerce a company into doing what he wants. Also, SLAPP suits are quickly fading out in North America, as court after court after court is rejecting them and ordering costs to be paid out.

i like how you mentioned that during your sponsor segment, war thunder vehicles are made to be as realistic as possible. and it's all thanks to those guys leaking classified documents

Guinness really went “Nah, I refuse to be sued like that” and it worked. Absolute legends.

11:03~ You know something is up when the least upsetting image of Billy Mitchell you've seen is one where he smiles (a weirdly innocent smile coming from him) and gives the camera the finger, lol.

Savage. Love to see it. Hope things are going well for you on your front, you absolute legend.

I love how videos with Billy and Todd started out neutral and relatively polite, but with both of them being litigious bungholes the niceties have gone out the window.

You know what this situation with Todd Rogers and Billy Mitchell reminds me of? There was a great Soviet movie, The Ordinary Miracle, and one of the characters in it was Hunter, who is, well, a supposedly great and famous hunter who spends all his time defending his past achievements ("So far he procured fifty diplomas confirming his fame and shot sixty detractors of his talent") instead of actually going and shooting some game because he's too afraid that other hunters will scrutinize his every shot. And when he actually goes on a hunt again, he cheats.

The judges need to start asap with billy Mitchell asap. Start making him paying back all the people he sued with his stupid lawsuits

Karl, thank you for the content, love your videos.

The most shocking thing to me in all of this is that Todd somehow managed to survive and feed himself for this many years.

I feel really bad for Todd. His life must be very hard, to cling onto a high score for a video game. I hope his life gets better.

0:43 1:19 - Silly Bitchell 2:21 - Back to Billy Mitchell

It's crazy how this saga of two random dudes filing dubious civil suits over the legitimacy of their video game records hardly anyone cares about except them, has better viewership on average than actual sports events and some Netflix shows. What's also interesting is how within this tiny little ecosystem, there are somehow TWO guys operating in an identical manner to one another.

Imagine living your entire adult life, desperately clinging to a singular achievement that defines and shapes who you are as a person, and knowing in your heart that it's a lie. I think Todd's actions start to make more sense when we consider that this "record" literally means everything to him. It IS him. Just let it go, Todd.

0:42 - Silly Bitchell!! HAHAHA!

Billy Mitchell's hair looks like he's wearing a hoodie especially that shot at 0:02 it's so distracting. How much hair spray does this man go through in a week

"Silly Bitchell" is the best dig I have ever heard in my entire life

I swear Karl, that one day Todd Rogers and Billy Mitchell will want you to write their biographies with how much knowledge you have of them.

If Todd keeps this up he’ll finally hold an actual world record for failed lawsuit attempts.

"Can you imagine what kind of insane twisted ramblings would arise if Todd actually did respond to these motions? It would have been AWESOME!". I'm dead

referring to him as Todd Togers occasionally is the cherry on top

10 seconds into the video "He doesn't have a weird mullet or a nice suit" I'm howling already 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Yes more frequent uploads. Please keep it going

"Todd looks at his friend Silly Bitchell" Dead 🤣

looooooooool when he said "silly bitchell", i almost shat out my pelvis

Todd "The Human Element" Togers and Silly Bitchell never fail to entertain with their shenanigans! The dynamic duo!

At this point I'm pretty sure Todd is just a broken record in disguise

Choked on my drink at "Silly Bitchell" LOL!

"Again, this is one of the pitfalls of both representing yourself and being an idiot."

Really started off my day strong when I clicked this. Less than 5 minutes after waking up I hear "Silly Bitchell" and it's put a smile right on my face. Thanks for your updates Karl. Without you, truly no one would give a shit about these old dumbasses. Your presentation is the only thing that keeps them interesting enough for me to click a link about.

Lol you can tell Karl knows that Todd will probably love watching these videos because they are about him so Karl has to make sure to call him an idiot as much as possible. I love it.

"Silly Bitchal" Lawyers: Karl Don't mention Billy until after the lawsuit. Karl: Sure no problem! Lmao

Wait a sec this is *new* !! Lemme just go binge re-watch the previous Todd Togers videos, then get to this one!

The thing that is the most ridiculous and hilarious to me is the fact this man managed to misspell his own goddamn name

It's almost like Karl is working hard to get cheats to waste their money in suing him for slander. What a legend!

i love how karl’s gloves are just fully off at this point

it should have been a part of the counter filing to claim costs; If you read it through and it says "party party" that's the old phrase for full remuniration; otherwise there should be at least a filing for the "costs unborn due to spurious and vexatious litigation" .. If that wasn't in any of the documents maybe they saw fit to let it slide?