I appreciate you putting out info for people but 2 things need to be clarified for future viewers. #1. Never use red thred lock. If your sight ever needs to be repaired or a battery needs to be replaced, you will find out why. Blue thred lock is what you want. #2. The reason you had issues sighting in is because you were trying to adjust your shot group over to your dot. You actually do the opposite. Move the dot to the point of impact. In your initial group, you were low and right, so you need to move the dot down, and right until it meets your point of impact. I have found that the fastest way to do this is using a sand bag. After your first group, with your shooting hand, hold the gun at original point of aim, then use a small screwdriver(so you can see around the tool) and ajust the dot until it lines up with point of impact. This will get you close very quickly assuming you hold still. Best of luck all and happy shooting.
I served as a firearms instructor at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center for a total of 15 years and I can say that Lenny is truly an outstanding instructor.
You have a great way of breaking things down to the lowest level of knowledge that makes it easy for newer shooters to understand but doesn't put off experienced shooters. Awesome mini series.
I would recommend blue Loctite instead of red in my opinion. From my experience, blue works the best in this application because it leaves an option to remove the device easier in the event the red dot unit breaks and needs to be swapped out. I have never had blue loosen up on me.
Yeah unless it's something you're able to take a heat gun to putting red on there is going to be a recipe for regret. Isn't red one stop away from Black Max?
Lenny this reminded me of my typical day in the military. Spend all day on the range shooting and testing weapons. You know your stuff. I appreciate you brother.
I think that Lenny needs to do a video around Christmas and sit at that same table and read us a Christmas story......sporting the GlockStore shirt, Mug on the table along with the G19, add a red hat and a beard.... Twas the night before Christmas and all through the house not a creature was stirring Except the three unwelcome visitors who broke down the door....... take it from there.
Maybe you haven’t met California Gun owners. We are more Pro 2A than anyone else in this country. We actually have to fight it….ever thought about that?
@@GatCat dude just move to a state that has less laws on guns California is broken. Move to az it’s the best and people think twice before stealing knowing everyone and thier grandmothers are packing .
A little “hate” on here for Lenny, but y’all need to give that a rest. Lenny is being deliberately slow and meticulous with this so that anyone at any knowledge level can understand the process. Yes... it’s like watching paint dry to you high-speed operators, but why did you even click on a 20 minute video on installing an optic in the first place? You already know this stuff! Lenny, nicely done. I even like the fact that you click/adjust in the wrong direction once. Heck, that’s a mistake that many folks would make. Well, not the afore mentioned high-speed operators of course... :-)
This is the most informative video I watched on how to site a Holosun optic. Lenny Magill is very concise and easy to follow. I really had my optic out of whack. This helped me easily site it. I wish i could visit their facility in San Diego. 10+ video
Thank you "Lenny" for the articulate, easy to understand video. I will buy one of these[507C] in the next 10 days. I have learned many things from your videos and purchased dozen's of great products from the "GlockStore. Take care, Michael
With iron sights you adjust the blade (rear sight) in the direction to where you want your groups. If you hit low to the right, you adjust the blade up and to the left; thus the barrel will point higher and more to the left, with the same sight picture. I don't know but suppose that the "Up" and "Right" on the Holosun 507C dictates the direction of impact, if adjusted accordingly (as is the case with Aimpoint red dot sights).
Correct. Turn the screw "up" to move point of impact up on the target, or "right" to move point of impact to the right. This will be the case for just about all modern scopes and red dot sights, but there may be some odd-ball exceptions.
Red is BRUTAL for those tiny screws. Gonna need to bake your optic with a heat gun to get those screws out. Yep, Blue is the way to go. I even have PURPLE Loctite on hand which is for small fasteners.
I just subbed. I've seen a few of your videos. This one, in particular, really solidified my decision. If you keep putting out videos like this, affable, honest, checking yourself when needed, this channel is going to explode. Good luck to you, sir. I look forward to seeing your channel grow.
An observation; Holosun should spend a “Penney or two” to provide an appropriately sized tool/handle to adjust the optic. Lenny was fighting the mini tool as much as the adjustment challenge. Thanks for all you do Lenny.
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I don't want to spend more for tools I don't need and others would agree with that. Don't use little mini tools, buy new or from a pawn shop. Tools are very cheap at pawn shops... because they were stolen.
I like using (or borrowing a friend's) a stationary pistol vice (HySkore, Ransom Rest, etc.) for sighting in optics. It takes the human error out of it. After all, a fellow wants his optic to be dead on. As always, another good video by Lenny.
Red Loctite is used when you don't need to ever take the sight off again. Green or blue is used on a the sight screws to hold it but still be able to remove it to change the battery when needed.
I think i am to ocd about sighting in my pistols because i use a 1 inch circle at 15 yards and i am not happy unless i am damn near touching the circle with every shot. Thanks for everything you guys put out!
I had tried a few red dot sights and gave up on them. I have astigmatism in my eyes even with prescription eyeglass the red dot always appears as a comet or a flare no matter how expensive the red dot sight was. Also, sticking a bulky thingy on a pistol just doesn't seem right so I am still an iron-sight shooter for over 40 years.
The 1st group is the best causing the min parallax position is there.This kind of reflex sights by moving the light sources against the glasses to complete E/W adjustments get the same problem. One will understand better by 200y or longer rifle shootings. It’s hard to hit the target paper even. Try to compare it with Sightmark Mspec that has a different E/W system to keep the sight always at the min parallax .
Great instructional video, again, Lenny. I've been vacillating between buying the Trijicon RMR 2 or Holosun. I think I'll save my $$ and buy the Holosun "circle dot". BTW, your probably one of the only guys our age that can rock a short sleeve shirt. I need to put my gun down and go do some bicep curls! 🤣 You da man!
I get on paper, then chase the impact with the reticle, it's the easiest way to zero in my opinion. The go left, go right, go up, go down gets confusing!! Reticle always follows Poi, it's never failed me yet.. Great Video as always!!
First time I watched one of your videos sir. It was very understandable! I want a rds on my 2.0 EDC but all the ones have looked, less then $200.00, I had to completely remove my rear sight. That just doesn't feel right with me. I've spend hours of dry fire and $1000.00s dollars on ammo and loosing the rear sight just doesn't set right with me. Even tho my 71 year old eyes are finding it getting harder and harder to see my front sight, even HiVis sights like truglow TFX Pros. True be known, I probably need new glasses and my problem should be solved!
Holsun 507c on a G19 Brownells windowed slide. Least expensive way to get in to a quality RDS on my G19. I used my old slide and bought a brand new G19 frame for $109. Bought Glock parts kit and Made a SECOND G19!!
I'm pretty sure, with ransom rest, at 9 yards, all holes would be touching or at least less than an inch (not a 1.5-2" group) with most decent ammo even with the OEM barrel.
Hi lenny, great video as always, but I think you are going to ruin the sight if you ever have to take it off if it is malfunctioning or to change the battery because of the red loctite. If you have to remove red loctite as you know you have to heat it severely and I feel that might ruin the electronics in the sight. When I purchase mine I will be using blue loctite just in case of a problem. Keep up the great videos.
@@pollock56th it doesnt make a difference if you are zeroing or not. Focusing on the target is the correct way to use a reflex style sight. With both eyes open
🤦🏼♂️ front sight focus hit where your aiming, the target should be a blur in the back ground. As per the dot same as before, focus on the dot not your target. Get some training and get off RU-vid
@@mikehoncho806I focus on target with my irons and I can hit 100 yards easily. With my red dot? Definite target focus as that's how they are designed. Focusing on the dot defeats the purpose of one. A red dot is for fast target acquisition. You look at the target then just bring the dot up into view. Having both eyes open is also key to this as it makes the optic body go opaque/see through, due to binocular vision. Fun fact. You can shoot a red dot accurately with the front cover blocking it. Assuming you have two eyes of course. Before you claim someone else needs training, why don't you do a fact check?
Only issue with a smaller dot is getting a quick target acquisition. I have a 2 moa green dot on my Glock 23 and sometimes it's hard to find that small dot. Lots of practice.
Lenny if you read these did you really use RED lock tight? Do you know that RED lock tight requires heat to disassemble? You’ll have to take a torch to the red dot to remove the screws.
I just bought my Glock 17 MOS and the Holosun 507c X2. My question is. If I use loctite 242 (red) will I ever be able to remove those screws should I need to? By the way fantastic instructive videos!
Probably gonna get one of those Holosun's. But with the Glock Blue Label Program it almost costs as much as the gun! I have come to really appreciate your videos even if I have to be patient with the "one size has to fit all" approach. Still, the Mike Rowe voice is intoxicating. I've decided to start carrying again and my state requires us to pass the police firearm qualification so I'm hoping this sight with be a help to these old eyes.
Zeroing these can be tricky but I try to clear every other factor out of my head and ignore the irons and just do the clicks and trust the math. Zeroing rifles I fee is much easier because you can be more steady and they’re more accurate.
Lenny I live just south of Nashville and am eagerly awaiting the opening of your newest location. I have a sig P365 that I would like to have a ShieldMRSc or a HOLOSUN 507c X23 installed on. The slide is not milled. Could you tell me when you will have the capabilities to perform that task in Nashville. My best regards Paul
I gotta say Lenny is great. He's like the Mike Rowe of the Glock world. Great content and I'm glad your business is killing it. I'm here in san diego and I can attest to the fact that the Glock store is incredible. They literally have everything Glock. If it's not right there in the store they'll have it in the warehouse 10 minutes down the road. Someone will run it up and you'll be on your way. If you haven't been go there and check it out. It should be the 9th wonder of the world. Lol
Its easier to hold the gun on center and move the adjusments to point where your first three shots hit. then fire three more, then do fine adjustments...
Question on correct sight picture. I have been told the correct sight picture for Glock handgun is placing the front sight dot just 'below' the desired aim/impact point. The reason....it allows the shooter to see, have a clear view of, the desired aim/impact point, i.e., the aim/impact point is not blocked/obscured by the front sight. Is that correct? Comments please. Great video. I want a red dot optic sight.
Well really, where the point of aim is located relative to the point of impact is mostly personal preference.....but you are correct, zeroing a handgun optic for a slight 6 o'clock hold is good because you don't have the dot obscuring your vision of the bullet impact zone. It's the same reason you zero an optic with a chevron reticle to just above the tip of the chevron point, so instead of a 1-3 inch area being covered by a dot where the rounds will impact, basically you have a point of aim that is the size of the bullet itself; this is what people mean when they say a chevron reticle has a "0 MOA" or "infinity" sized point of aim. ( I hope that made sense, and this doesn't only apply to RDS optics....irons as well )
Tried to go to the GS in Nashville, Tn to get my G19 slide milled based on LM indicating it could be done while you wait. NOT TRUE! I think it was a vague attempt to get you in and tell you they can’t do it on the same day, and will send it back within ten days. I was totally disappointed since I’m in LE and it’s my primary weapon. So, I suggest don’t allude to this being a possibility if in fact it’s not.
If you had to pick one optic with price not being an option between the RMR type 2 or this what would you run and why? Thanks for all the insightful videos I get tremendous value out of them
I just want the iron sights to hopefully increase my speed in finding the the red dot. Do I need both the rear and front or just the front sight? Thanks
I'm an old fart of 70, never even looked through a red dot and I'm not ashamed to admit I'm confused. I hope someone can help me understand. I just bought the taurus gx4 toro and a holosun 407k x2. After mounting it I looked through my iron sights and when I was right on target with the iron sights the red dot was near the far right side of the optic. So, I tried to turn the windage adjustment left to bring the dot over to the left to align over my iron sights. However, the holosun windage adjustment was already turned left as far as it would go. I didnt have any "to the left" adjustment remaining. I figured the optic was defective. But just for the hell of it, before sending it back, I turned the windage adjustment to the right, which of course had full adjustment available. Well as I adjusted right, the dot came into match my iron sights to the LEFT???🥴 what the hell? Now in line vertically with my iron sight picture, I wanted to bring the red dot down a little to be sitting about midway on my front sight. To bring it down a little I ended up having to turn the elevation screw UPWARD? What in the world is going on? Thank you to any and all who could help shed some understanding to this old guy! 🤪
Yes lol, as a firearms instructor I was yelling on the inside for him to follow thru. Also to stop racking the slide on the front and putting his fingers so close to the muzzle.
