Since you live in Arizona, I was wondering if you could tell me if I can keep your recommended POM in a car and if so how long should it stay useable? Currently located in southern AZ.
@@ugatobekittenme i agree, if the POM was much better then i imagine he would have deleted this video. probably the same shit. i need 2 for my wife so now i dont know. funny the POM Instagram link doesnt work.
Thanks. Some of us need to be reminded. When I leave the house, I alway grab my pistol but as the old saying goes, “when your only tool is a hammer all your problems look like nails”. I’ve got OC, just need to remember to take it.
i sprayed a violent felon in mesa, az while working security. That sabre red made him cry.. The responding officers laughed when they saw i used 3/4 of a can..
Awesome bud lol I do Armed Security out of Las Vegas NV, an Texas Id like u too look into a device Called JPX Jet protector youll throw that stuff u carry away i promise lol check it out tell me what u think. Law enforcement is starting to get away from traditional can carry mace because of this device, an is more effective than taser for sure.
My pepper spray has OC and CS 😈 in experience EXTREMELY effective. Business deal in someone else’s house went south once dude much bigger then me acting like he was going to attack me in his own house... sprayed his ass and got the fuck out was even able to grab the money he owed me as i ran out the door heard him stumbling astound trying to get to his door 😂
@@tarzan6405 CS would be considered a controlled gas weapon here in Poland requiring a permit, likewise old Mace (CN), as opposed to OC. OC alone is more than effective.
3:09 Pink pepper spray.... "God help us all." *Exactly* The more I study this topic the more I agree that pepper spray is a great option to have. For the average road rage encounter or mentally unstable person in a store, pepper spray lets you get a person off you with far less potential downside than pulling a handgun. Excellent video.
After a couple interactions with some local addicts in my city I decided I needed to start carrying a force multiplier a couple years ago. Thought about a firearm but these situations wouldn't have merited it. Then I thought about one of those sweet telescoping metal rods but realized it would still probably kill somebody and I would probably get manslaughter if I used it in a situation that a gun wasn't allowed. I settled on pepper spray cuz it would let me teach a lesson to idiots without killing them or giving them brain damage, allowing me to get out of there. It could also help me break out of a two or three on one situation, I thought. I have a shield 9 and flashlight now but feel comfortable knowing i can moderate the level of force I need to protect myself from the common drunk idiot. Love this channel. Thanks for the dedication and consistency, John.
Sabre Red saved my ass! It works like a champ and paints the face red! The can I had shot a good 15 to 20 feet and was like a stream very good. Hit two guys in the face with it and took the fight out of them 100%. Better to shoot with the spray than the 9mm.
The JPX Jet protector is the superior Mace projecting device on the market today, Considered by police to be more effective than Taser, shaped like a firearm an fires mace at the face at 500mph lol 2 shot device can quickly be reloaded, an its the only 1 i have ever seen law enforcement prefer over the traditional can. check into it let me know what u think, because in a moment of emergency you will need something under pressure to quickly subdue a person. Also legal for citizens to carry thanks an good luck in your e.d.c.
lol throw that out dated can of spray out an start carrying the JPX Jet protector @ 3o'clock lol more effective than taser check it out youll toss that shit out for sure legal to carry for civilians too.
Nice video. I just got my pepper spray last week because I live in a apartment complex and I was walking my dogs and a guy almost hit me with his car and I told him that pedestrians hv the the right of way and he stopped and he said that I was walking slow and didn’t know which way I was going so I called him an idiot and he said if I wanted to throw down and I told him I wasn’t going to settle an argument with fist and he called me a punk and drove away. This morning I saw him and he apologized to me and I apologized back. I learned from u that verbal judo goes a long way but I will carry my pepper spray just in case.
Look into the JPX Jet protector an i promise youll throw that shit can of mace out the window bro lol, If law enforcement consider it to be more effective than taser its worth looking into. its shaped like a firearm an is a 2 shot device, it also has a laser sight an rails to mount flashlight. it projects mace at the face @ 500mph an is under pressure, also 5x hotter than any mace on the market. Law enforcement carry it in the eastern hemisphere, an now Texas, an Arizona check it out let me know what u think, an plz get rid of the dreadful can it wnt help u when the time calls for it i promise, u need something under high pressure to stop a threat.
TruHoudini is inconvenient to carry is like gun which by that point might as well conceal carry a real gun lmao the point of pepper spray is easy use and small easy to take out
Lol Naegleria idk which one your looking at cuz the jpx jet protector is small an compact is 2shot device an just a lil bit bigger than a can of mace an lighter to carry has a laser sight an strobe flashlight + mace discharges 5x more potent than any mace sold in u.s. an is equivalent to having an airbag go off in your face lol if i produce a device like the jpx an red dot u, u will get scared an run away or reach for weapon an get hit anyway not to mention the blinding strobe flashlight in your face so its designed to be a deterrent before u have to actually use it, an i forgot to mention its as loud as a 22 when fired so youll think youve been shot bud lol A can of mace does not have any deterrents like i described u just spray an pray it works lol loser so aside from that if u want to just carry a lil bitch ass can of mace thats just gonna make someone mad an get your ass kicked anyway, or force u to pull a firearm prematurely go ahead be my guest, but i guarantee what i carry is more effective than your lil can of hot sauce an + my jpx can reach u 7ft away with little to no chance to react, your mace cnt do that an jpx is preferred by law enforcement over taser for a reason to so haha an if i hit u with jpx u aint using your gun either your blinded instantly an if you go for your firearm after ive hit u with jpx you cn be killed in self defense situation so in closing its better than a can of mace an worth carrying around like i do all the time with my glock19,plz stop online trolling bud its dangerous someone can find u an pull your card good luck an god bless.
Amen brother - I carry OC spray everywhere I go too. MACE Pepper Gel with UV Dye, and it is actually 1.4% capsaicinoids, which is slightly higher than your Sabre brand. Saved me twice from some crazed dogs. Multiple layers of defense is the only way to go.
You hate Mace, yet your description of Mace gel is completely unrelated to reality. Works great in real life, and it's nothing like silly string... try again
I use to carry that silly can too everywhere till i started doing security an a Texas Police officer showed me the JPX Jet protector lol youll love it, it fires mace at the face @ 500mph equivalent to an airbag going off in your face, 5x more hotter than any mace carried on duty by Police, an its made by the Swiss which means perfection. its also a 2 shot device an can quqickly be reloaded, let me know what u think once youve seen it.
I recommend have 2 pepper sprys one stays in my car and one in my pocket. I have the one in my car just for when some idiot comes banging on my window over road rage. Of course if they have a weapon or something I do have my gun with me but I would rather use a spray.
As always, thanks John! I had a fellow CCW holder point out the deficiency of OC spray in my EDC a couple of months ago and now never leave home without it. I bought that identical Sabre Red Mk6 and the trainer based on your last video and am very pleased with your suggestion John. The one thing I would add to this is that you should generally avoid pepper gel sprays (outside of choice situations such as having asthma or anticipating having to use pepper spray around small children, etc). I had a Kimber Pepperblaster and had to use it on someone who was an imminent threat to myself, my wife, and infant daughter. It took WAAAAAAY too long (maybe 10-15 seconds) for this guy to feel the effects of the pepper gel. He was startled that he just had red goo shot on the bridge of his nose but he was wearing sunglasses so the gel had to drip into his eyes before he felt the burn. In the end the Pepperblaster did what it was supposed to, but if he was more determined I would have been going hands on with this guy for sure. Stream OC spray is totally the way to go. It is aerosolized and gets into eyes, sinuses and mouth much quicker and also has more range than most handheld fogs/cones. I don't have much experience with foam OC sprays but they instantly turn to liquid when they hit the target and in theory would be a good alternative to stream OC spray. Bottom line, if you're at all self defense minded ALWAYS have OC spray on you! As stated, per FBI crime stats, 80% of all violent attacks DO NOT warrant lethal force. Have less lethal on hand!
Not gonna say OC spray isn't a (usually) effective device, but it does have its limitations. Some can be ameliorated with training, some cannot. In my opinion, ESPECIALLY if you are not carrying a firearm, you should have a second less-lethal weapon on your person. I favor a collapsible baton because it extends your reach and will never run out of whupass. But whatever option(s) you choose, you had damn well know very well how to use them - what parts of your adversary are the most vulnerable to your weaponry and know how to use them to your best advantage. If you just casually lift a can of OC spray in a bad guy's direction, he's gonna grab it from you and stream it into YOUR face. Stay the hell away from trouble. If you see anything resembling trouble, get away as quickly as you can. Your first line of defense should always be avoidance. ALWAYS.
As a corrections officer I had to get pepper sprayed in order to carry it. It caused my eyes to immediately seal shut. Any attempt to open my eyes resulted in extreme pain. It also makes your face feel like you have an extreme sun burn. Highly recommended for self protection.
Anti-dog trick: reach down and act like you are grabbing a rock and make a throwing motion at the dog(s). They will retreat every time. Works on any surface. there doesn't have to be rocks. Try it on any dog and you'll see it works. Courier for over 20 years.
Blackbelts in both Taekwondo and Hapkido here and carry both pepper spray and a firearm. Always good to cover long, medium, and close range with lethal and non-lethal skills. Sure wish I could comment on the main channel sometimes, not sure what happened there. Sporting my ASP hat today!
Thank you for highlighting the benefits of pepper spray. You changed my thinking. I just bought several canisters of sabre red gel after doing some online research. Thank you again.
As a mail carrier for over 20 years I can say that pepper spray is 95% effective. I have had dozens of encounters with dogs and have yet to find one dog it would not stop. I have even stopped two dogs at once with my pepper spray. Both were German Shepherds.
I recommend the flip top one. It is larger and safer to carry in your pocket. The smaller one with the slide activated switch was sliding over into the ready-to-spray position in my pocket. I had to add a bit of easily defeated tape to prevent that.
I started carrying OC spray just a few years ago and I must admit to not carrying it as often as I should. It is my only option when I work however because carrying a firearm is both prohibited and illegal at my workplace. Unfortunately that workplace is next door to the county jail.
Ive been carrying Sabre Red pepper jell for over 5 years . It comes in it's own "holster". It's supposed to have an effective range of 18 feet. Hooks right onto your belt where it's accessible. Ive never had anyone ask about it. They either think its a small cell phone or dont notice it at all. The M &P shield stays inside the waist band.
Wow! Didn't know some people have no reaction to being sprayed. I'm a female runner, felt safer when running w pepper spray. Definitely learned from this. Yes John, mine is/ was pink! 😕 Lesson learned!
Very true. It has been said at my company that Samoans and some native Americans and even some Hispanic people seem to have a high tolerance for the stuff. I know myself personally it hurt quite a bit. Honestly I’d trust a taser over the pepper spray but a tool is better than no tool and I give you major props for carrying while running!
I'd say a taser is more likely to fail than pepper spray, so I wouldn't recommend it. +Katherine King , You might want to try spraying a little of the pink stuff onto a towel/whatever and smelling it, and see how overpowering it is to you. If it's too tame, you'll want to get something new. You could also try taking a whiff directly, if you want to really test your tolerance.
Van Ivanov you know I’d agree that a taser is more likely to fail, however when it DOES make good contact it normally has its full effect regardless of any personal pain tolerance, drugs notwithstanding Pepper spray on the other hand will almost never fail to deploy, however its effectiveness is subject to the suspects potential tolerance It’s an interesting trade off, reliability of mechanism vs effectiveness of the mechanism.
I think Van Ivanov was referring to how tasers fail often even when they hit people, not that they might miss fire. If the juice doesn't go through the right nerves it won't incapacitate them. When they work, they work well but I would recommend pepper spray over a taser any day.
For all people who are ordering spray after watching this video: Be sure to get a can or two of the inert training version of the spray as well if it’s offered. It is really useful to familiarize yourself with the real world range of the spray as well as how to aim it, how it feels to defeat any of its safety mechanisms as well as how hard you have to press the button. I know Saber Red’s training Gel has pretty accurate stream consistency and range as the real thing having used both. You can also use the inert as a force on force training tool where you have your friend/sibling/spouse pretend to attack you while you attempt to get the spray from your pocket or purse and then spray them with the inert to get a feel for the reality of employing the tool. Good video as always John and looking forward to the next one!
I started carrying Sabre OC every day a few months ago, as you say its nice to have an option before firearm, particularly if encountering a not-so-friendly dog while walking mine- I would hate to have to shoot a human/dog unless absolutely necessary.
Word. My dog and I have been attacked by another dog twice, and we don't want a 3rd time. Those attacks were enough to make is both nervous while walking in our neighborhood. I now carry OC spray (Pom per John's recommendation) with me every day,and it gives me peace of mind.
I really don’t need to watch other videos like the times I tried to look up something and had to watch 5 videos and one of them was concise. This video is EXCELLENT and informative. Thank you sir.
We have more experience here in Europe, because in most countries it's really really hard (if not impossible) to get a CCW permit, so many people have to use it against deadly threats too. In Europe the Pfeffer KO is a very popular and a very good spray. I carry this, I had to use it one time against a bigger drunken/drugged guy who followed me, and wanted a fight. Instant stop. One time I had to use it against a dog. It also worked instantly. I prefer the FOG version because of the too many stray dogs here. It's really hard to hit a very fast and small target (dog face) under stress with a stream. I also don't really care about the distance, because these fights are usually in contact distance. Wind: it's not really a gas, it's an oily stuff, basically fluid, only with a wider spray pattern, so the FOG is not that much worse. Of course you have to decide what is more important to you. I also recommend to buy minimum 2, but maybe 3 bottles. You have to try out and see how far it goes, how long it works, etc etc. About the agents, we can buy these: PV/OC: One is a natural extract the other is lab made, but basically they are the same. Natural stuff, so very very small chance for an allergic reaction, but very effective against dogs and humans, or humans on drugs - even if they don't feel the pain, they can't see (of course nothing is 100%) CN: the oldest and less effective stuff CS: not so good against drunken and drugged people and animals. It doesn't mean it's not effective, but PV is much better. CR: russian stuff. Nasty against humans, we don't have as much experience as with the others, but they say it's more effective than PV. Also if you wash it water it gets worse. Against dogs PV is more effective - source: some reports from friends of friends, so who knows for sure... You can also buy some mixed stuff too. We also can buy gas guns. They fire blanks filled with different agents, they make a 2-3 meter long gas cloud with a bang when fired. I hope maybe I gave some extra info. If you have some questions, feel free to ask, I'll try to answer. For me it was very surprising too that not every CCW carrier carries some kind of spray too. I think you can say it's almost "mandatory".
I have a question i was thinking of buying a defenol CS made by balistol but would you say that Pfeffer KO is better. Here in Bosnia and Herzegovina there is not much choice.
I just saw another video that recommended PALM….thanks John. I opted for the gel in the Magnum 3 canister. It saved my bacon from an attack this week…thanks ASP
I was advised by a criminal defense attorney to NOT carry a less lethal option if I am carrying my firearm. His logic was that if I have to face a jury after a deadly threat situation, a prosecutor can question why the lethal option was used rather than the less lethal option. He made it sound like an obstacle for a legal defense.
You need to replace your attorney because that line of reasoning is specious. Why do cops carry less lethal tools? To handle non-lethal threats. I was taking the example of my local LEO. (that's as easy as it is to refute that argument in court, and ANY attorney worth their salt should know it...the attorney you asked knows nothing of self-defense law, which is common)
I always had the sabre gel but going back to the spray, chased by a dog in my condo complex ....had to get an accurate hit with the gel when you are panicked, the spray is more spread out so you don’t have to have a perfect aim...
One of your concerns about pepper spray occupying your hand - one could always do as I did, working in a prison for many years. I trained myself to utilize pepper spray with my OFF hand. Since it's not being used to actively strike or defend, keeping it in the off hand allows use of the stronger hand and lessens the likelihood of disarming. Also, if using a belt holster, don't go with the popular horizontal style, make sure you keep your holster vertical - this allows immediate deployment without even necessitating removal from the holster. And the user should ALWAYS be aware: If you spray someone, you're spraying yourself with the blowback/cloud. Be prepared. As for brands; Sabre Red is the only OC that ever stopped me in my tracks. LE10 and a couple of other names I no longer remember were unpleasant but I could function. I got a hit of SR and I certainly lost a lot of my fight. Top Cop had a good whallop too, but I could bull through it.
Good call on practicing with spray. Beeped my horn at a guy at a green light last year and he proceeded to run me off the road as well as pursuing me across state lines. I sent my Fox Labs 5.3 stream at him at one point and the wind took it and it had no effect on him. The ending was ok for all parties once the State Police got involved but I learned an important lesson from the experience. Practice everything!
Sabre Red is Trash an ive seen a fellow officer getting his ass whooped because of it, please bud look into the JPX Jet protector we all use it @ my company an its more effective than taser, it fires mace at face @ 500mph with little to no chance to react, 2 shot device that can be reloaded quickly, laser sight an flashlight mount. also 5x hotter than mace sold on the market today. look into it many videos of law enforcement using this device. Texas, Arizona an law enforcement in eastern hemisphere have adopted this over taser an cans. good luck in your e.d.c.
Been trying to find a pepper spray that isn't too big, has a flip top lid instead of the less than reliable slide tab, and a pocket clip. I've had sabre red with the slide tab in a smaller size but had to use tape to keep the tab from sliding in my pocket. I then got a 1.5 oz. Fox 5.3 with flip top lid but it's just a little too big, protrudes too much in pocket. I found a .69 oz. Sabre red with flip top lid and pocket clip. Model mk22. It also takes refills. Waiting to receive it, ordered from ebay. And I wholeheartedly agree that every concealed carrier should have pepper spray on them. Could save you from serious legal problems. If possible it's better to spray and get out of there then have to use your firearm as first and only choice.
I been sprayed Level 1 (directly in the face) and Level 2 several times while in the academy and in law enforcement for recertification and it's never a good thing. One of the worst feelings.
I live in an area where I can’t legally carry a firearm and I’ve been carrying some pepper spray lately. I think it would at least calm the situation or give you time to get away.
Not going to lie, it took me just shy of 20 minutes to recover from a foam OC blast to the face(training). It felt like a million needles in my eyes, face, and mouth. And breathing? Not so much an option because it felt like I swallowed a bucket of broken glass. My face turned into a mucous dripping faucet. Later in life I was presented with a reasonable physical threat, I held him off physically and opted not to spray him. Why? Because I didn't want to have to babysit the asshole after the fact. Another guy in my group took a full blast and it didn't phase him. I felt like a big puss, but that stuff is real. Then I reactivated it in the shower, son of a B. I'd rather take a few punches to the skull than go through that again.
*LOL* Yeah, reminds me of my first experience with OC spray (LE10). Used on a fight, and the asshat using it actually raised the dispenser when I got to the scene and painted me knee to brow. And the supers would not let me go home and change. 10 hours later the effects were pretty much gone... until I needed to use the toilet. I found out just how long that stuff lingers on your hands (far longer than 10 hours!).
Not a fan myself. Took that thing off my duty belt years ago. If it’s all you have or you are worried about dogs, then okay. It will give you a small edge in a fight if you don’t spray yourself in the process.
I've been hit twice with OC, once in the Navy and once in the academy. Sabre red was used in the academy and it was 10 times worse than what they used in the Navy, I also recommend Sabre red
Longtime viewer and really appreciate your tantamount of information. I've been on/off carrying pepper gel for a few years to supplement my edc but know of many who question 'why?' as I'm just a civilian. Would love to hear some on thwarting multiple attackers (thinking along the lines of the 'knockout' game) other than minimizing risks for being a target. Keep up the great work.
I don't understand why people choose to walk around in public completely defenseless. It's like they think bad shit never happens, or their keen sense of wits will save them.
sqlb3rn segfavlt is better to carry than not. If you don’t have a gun, at least carry pepper spray and a steel bat or baton in your car under your seat
@@naegleriafowleri1715 If it comes to fighting, you better bring empty handed skills rather than a baton and especially not the wimpy telescopic junk that tends to fail when hitting hard. You probably won't be able to carry a longer stick on you, one that would actually be potentially useful. (A knife works, for obvious reason, always beats baton and most of the time a pipe or a stick. Similar metal pointy tools cause similar damage.)
AstralStorm you don’t want to use knife as its lethal weapon and unless is proven your life is in real danger lol obviously you should have one but in real life you’re safest bet is probably the spray
In California, OC Pepper Spray is regulated as "Tear Gas". Wherever you see "tear gas" prohibited, or the amount of "tear gas" you can carry, that includes pepper spray.
Started to carry oc after a few videos you posted John. One thing I need to mention, check your local laws. Example, Michigan has a size limit and it can not have other products mixed in. Sabre red has a three in one that is not legal there.
got pepper sprayed in order to carry it on duty. nasty stuff, had to engage 3 targets after being sprayed never want to do that again. shared this video with the wife. bought some with blue dye, to mark the attacker for the cops afterwards
I used an OC (Fog type) on an attacking pit bull when I was a LEO and it worked well. Could you look at and maybe test the Kimber Guardian Angel Pepper Blaster? Great channel.
If I know anything it’s hot peppers! I started winning hot pepper eating contests in 1975. At age 52, water started going down like lava, until I was 57. I even quit eating hot peppers for a few years after that.
I was so worried because my pepper spray was pink but thank goodness the package says SABRE. It even comes with a quick release key ring which maybe helpful.
The spicy treats lol. I like and carry Freeze +P. I chose that brand because it's what are local law enforcement carries. It has 1%CS and 1% OC in its mixture, for an extra spicy treat, and is dispensed in a stream of gel. Great video. Would be nice to see more self defenders carry a nonlethal option SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
Lol your local Law Enforcement will be throwing out traditional cans soon to make room for the JPX jet protector, my company did an its all we carry now as far as non lethal id suggest u do the same bud. Texas, an Arizona Law Enforcement have already adopted the device because it fires mace at the face at 500mph with little to no chance to react,an is a 2 shot device that can quickly be reloaded, an is shaped like an actual firearm with a laser sight an flashlight mount enough said. look into it let me now what u think good luck in your e.d.c. an p.s. throw that silly can away wnt help bud, you need something under serious pressure to be effective in an emergency situation.
Paul Flannigan Hey bud thanks for reply everyones asleep still sucking on the can lol weve moved into the future already with the Mace this has true stopping power the JPX jet protector they have a 2shot for conceal, an a 4 shot for someone on duty, ya its from a company called piexon based out of Switzerland, $375 out the door look at videos on youtube of its actual performance 1st tho an get back to me. this is considered by Law Enforcememnt to be the most effective non lethal weapon on market, more effective than taser.
Something VERY important to note about STREAM style sprays is the hydraulic needle effect. Generally, if sprayed within 3 feet of the target, the pressure from the stream can actually inject the target with the spray. (Particularly the eyes) This can permanently blind someone if it punctures their eyes. The warnings are on the can, and taught in classes. You can be held accountable in a court room if you hurt someone with it. Get training, and use it.
I carry Sabre Red, Brass Knuckles(they are now legal in TX), pocket knife, kubotan, and a Denver 2ply leather sap every single day! I don’t care if I’m going to the gas station in my basketball shorts for a cigarette run they are on me tucked in the waistband. My coworkers ask me why I carry so many weapons and my response is “why don’t you?”
Enclosed spaces and wind are a big problem to pepper spray, so keep those in mind. You might want to test your own tolerance for your spray, as there is a reasonable chance you'll get hit by it in a struggle. And of course... if you have it, you have to be good at transitioning from it, to empty-hand techniques, to a gun, to a knife and etc.. If you end up drawing pepper spray when you need a gun, God help you.
You omitted a couple of things from an otherwise excellent video. First, get a new can every 2 or 3 years. The propellent can slowly leak out leading to a useless weapon. Secondly a huge advantage of pepper spray is that you can carry it in your weak hand and nobody will see it. I've been doing that for 25 years. If I had a handgun or other weapon in my hand, I'd have had some problems. It's in my hand after I exit the car and on the way to the car. If somebody comes out of nowhere, there is a non-lethal weapon immediately ready for use. As for the pink stuff, I've given cans of the spray to several women over the years. One was frightened of a classmate at a nearby university. I gave her the can I had in my pocket. A few days later she gave it back and proudly showed me her pink can of pepper spray. Same stuff in a different container. It appeals to some women's sense of fashion. It might be a gimmick, but if it will get a person to carry, then it doesn't matter if it's decorated.
The JPX Jet protector is the way of the future bud, those little cans just are not under enough pressure, this device is considered by law enforcement to be more effective than taser, look into it its a 2 shot device that can quickly be reloaded, has a laser sight, an flashlight mount, it projects mace @ 500mph equivalent to an airbag going off in your face lol an is 5x hotter than mace carried by Law enforcement, things a beast an is legal for civilians to carry. Texas, an Arizona police are already carrying them on duty look into it an let me know what u think. Its a Swiss made product by a company called Piexon.
I wouldn't outright get a new can, just test spray it sometimes to check. Clean the nozzle too. Obviously if it's bad, it's bad and you need a new one, but it is actually rather rare that modern isopropane or isobutane gases leak on their own through a gas seal.
@@cindylong624 You're carrying it in the wrong place - the right place is on your person, presumably in a pocket or small of the back or such. Very similar like concealed carry of a gun but much easier.
Less than one week ago I tried to use my pepper spray gel on a dog. I'm sure it would have worked but it didn't reach out far enough to get to them. I bought a bear spray to use against the dogs. We'll see how it goes. :-)
Mace or tear gas is illegal in WA. Pepper Spray is Ok . Washington is a limited Stand your Ground State. Limited in Seattle and King Counties have a insanely high threshold for use.
I always recommend civilians to buy the Mace brand triple threat, it has OC, tear gas and a UV marking dye, but if you want something stronger the Disabler brand with 15% OC.
I can say without a doubt, Fox Labs 5.3 is by far the worst. Also as an instructor, I recommend always carry a pepper spray that has a safety device. So it does not accidentally go off. Speaking through personal experience. Lol. 2 times. First time I had it in my pocket off duty and I did not realize that my keys kept pushing the button. Back then, FOX made pepper sprays that did not have a safety lid. I found out soon enough. Let's just say chestnuts roasting on an open fire. Lol. And the pain got worse and worse. It lasted over 2 days.
Most felons, particularly the violent ones, are not affected by capsicum/pepper spray. That 85% statistic is very optimistic, like claims of ammo velocity.
I got my daughter now 10 a pink one, because it looks like a harmless wrist toy when she's out riding her bike, or playing outside. I feel it would give her more time because it doesn't look like oc. Saber also makes pink.. so you know.
The other time it was in my center counsole i was driving while my friend put something in there. Whatever he put was too long so the cover for the center console did not close. He kept pushing the lid trying to close it and still it couldn't close. After about 6 times I smelt a burning smell. So I pulled to the side to see what was burning. He didn't realize that whatever he put in my console actually was pushing on the actuator for the pepper spray. And every time he tried to close the lid, he was spraying the pepper spray in my console. The pepper spray was so nasty, it melted the plastic on the inside of my console. Besides those 2 situations. I used Fox before and even got sprayed in the face. So I can attest that Fox pepper spray is nasty. Perfect for self defense.
I carry Sabre Red 3-in-1. Just bought it after a near knife attack. Hope to never have a situation like that happen again. I am curious how effective it is against someone wearing a Halloween (SCREAM) mask as that's what the attacker was wearing.
Google User sad, meanwhile anti gun Senator Feinstein has armed security detail. Anti Gun obama has armed security detail. Anti Gun Hollywood has armed security Anti Gun Bloomberg has armed security
You convinced me. Ordered a couple. I sometimes wish I had just a little tear gas, it really clears the sinuses. Loved it when nearby units used it for training and just a tich blew my way. I could breathe through both nostrils for days! Hooo Ahhh!
CS gas sucks to have applied to you, but it is not debilitating (I was able to ride a motorcycle nearly 1km with blurry vision after attack). And pepper spray should only considered a deterrent to the attacker, but it might be the only choice available. Be safe.
Some people take it hard, or just aren't tough enough to fight through it. It's OK for chasing off a belligerent beggars, I wouldn't rely on it for much else. Unless you get the military/police grade stuff, which will take out most people with a good dose (including yourself).
sun shin3 logical answer, I was riding a motorcycle down a street 3 hours after a riot was over, but an over zealous cop decided to gas me with a can popped & thrown in front of my path about a 1/2 block before I hit the cloud. I quickly had snot running from my nose and blurry vision but made it to a gas station to call 911. It is public record, if you really fell like checking
Dick Riley He was at a blm protest with his shirt off and chest painted. He was driving around on the bike with a giant blm flag on the rear of his bike. Jason woods is very passionate about the cause (BLM)
When I get enough bones, I plan on making a taser/stun gun and pepper spray as my EDC. I live in MD and getting a conceal carry permit is too tricky as I meet none of the qualifications to acquire a firearm. But I can carry and even conceal a taser so, I figure I might as well try it and train myself with it.
I gotta say I agree. If u carry a fire arm in public u should carry a less lethal. On top of it being usefull in tho situations where a fire arm isnt justifed... I strongly believe if u ever had to use ur firearm (and I hope that u dont) it would look better from a legal defense that u carry less lethal and are not one of tho people just looking to end a life. I'm not a lawyer tho so don't hold me to that. It's just what I believe. Plus I don't wanna have to end someone's life. Don't think u do either. It's small weights almost nothing and after over a year of carrying less lethal now it's never been in my way. Ty John for all the fun education u bring. Watch u every day brother. Stay safe ALL!
Got mine in today. Used your link and thought it was the flip top but it's the slide to the side safety. Still cool though, I will just train for this setup instead.
I carry a ASP, triple action mace, 2 benchmade daggers 1 around my neck and 1 in pocket the the glock 30s 45acp that's my EDC. So I do carry less lethal tools. I don't want my 45acp the only way to go if I don't have to as a ccw carrier. That is because I don't want to deal with the lawyer when the bullet leaves the barrel if I don't need to.
I'm in college and can keep a gun on my car but not very mine times I can keep it with me. I decided to get pepper spray combines with my strength and wrestling I should be able to defend my self most of the time.
I travel with 2 German Shepherds everywhere I go-highly recommend it. Also sprays, and other things. GSD's force me to use the best weapon we all have-situational awareness. GSD Best. Dog. Ever.
@@ASPextra it's one of the most common brands in LE. I believe they also have many or most federal contracts as well, including military. Defense technologies is owned by safariland. .
Everyone should carry it; literally. It’s legal in all 50 states , NYC and perhaps a few others have some restrictions as to where one can buy it etc. Effectiveness. Far more effective than people think. It’s not a tolerance thing ; it’s a physiological response much like soap in your eyes. Some can pry their eyes open a bit but all still will be severely compromised and give you more than enough time to run away. I would disagree with may not needed it if trained in H2H. There is a good likelihood of a drunk throws a punch at you and your response is a palm heel strike to their nose followed by a takedown , choke out there is a high likelihood you will be charged because your trained. The same laws about excessive force applies to police ( citizens with some enhanced rights ) as well John Q Public. OC can be used in many situations ( state laws vary so check with your attorney) as to when it can be deployed. Often it’s intent. If the aggressor states “ I am going to kill you “ pulls back his fist he has probably crossed the threshold to deploy OC even though he has not struck you. The assailant has demonstrated intent and opportunity and means. I trained in martial arts for 40 years and taught for 15 to LEO, citizens etc including the use of less than lethal tools ). I think your spreading of knowledge is a great service to those that realize it only takes one BG to ruin your day ... or life.
Everyone should carry the JPX Jet protector an throw those outdated cans of trash out that don't do there job like taser lol you need something shaped like a firearm that is under pressure an fires mace at the face @ 500mph, equvalent to an airbag going off in your face, its a 2 shot device an can be reloaded quickly, it is carried by Law Enforcement in the eastern hemisphere, an now Texas, an Arizona. considered by law Enforcement to be more effective than taser, fully legal for civilian use. Also 5x hotter than regular mace so 1 shot is usually more than enough to render a person defenseless.
The PNW Rider training in martial arts doesn’t mean shit in real life lol you could still get your ass kicked by some bum who just happen to have better instinct and natural talent than you do Ive seen it many times
lol u sound scared an threatened by me because im a jiu jitsu practitioner im flattered thanks, and i want to see proof that you have seen a real Jiu jitsu practitioner/Boxer with over 7yrs of exp get beat up in a 1on1 fight against someone with just street fighting skills lol because if u cnt provide proof its fake news an hearsay an proof your just upset calm down buddy. Now to respond to you wanting to carry a lil can of mace to protect yourself lol theres no pressure an like ASP guy says there not really effective, law enforcement has blinded someone completely already with JPX, so again more effective than taser an your lil can of mace, an guarantee if i hit u with JPX your done instantly, then i can use my jiu jitsu on you an it will work for sure good luck buddy an stop trying to be a troll because in real life you would just keep your mouth shut an we both know it.
I used to carry that Sabre Red, but now I carry POM. I went to the police station and talked a couple of police officers into spraying me with each one (one day between sprays so I wouldn’t get over lapping results). And POM is much harder to fight through. Fun fact: the police thought that I was both crazy and smart. Don’t worry, they enjoyed every minute of it. 🤣
@@ASPextra I felt like the Sabre was much easier to clear away from my eyes, where as the POM it felt like I was just making it worse by trying to wash it. 30 minutes later, I still couldn’t hold my eyelids open for very long. Side note: The officer behind the counter said “are you sure?”, but the officer they sent out said “yeah, we always need to improve our range of skills, and I think we’re going to enjoy this.”. All in all, I had fun with them and I think it was worth knowing what I found out.
