Let $4,800 Stop Our Marriage? 

He’s not the smartest, obviously 😅

it is not just health insurance... it probably includes food stamps, monthly stipulations, dental insurance, free rehab, etc....

You kind of come to the realization that women cost a lot.

$5000+ a year richer or a piece of paper saying your married. I'll take the $5000 and my significant other agrees. That's almost 10% of their families yearly income

@@wewhoareabouttodiesaluteyo9303 That is a really poor statement.

She picked him.

I will marry you, but you'll have to get a job to afford it... Would she still want marriage?

As he should!

What man in their right mind today wants to get married.

@@nessliestrife993 True Dat

@@nessliestrife993 One that wants kids... except this guy has already done that.

@@lajhoncampbell8141 First, he should love her, then crunch the numbers. He doesn’t love her and he doesn’t want to get married.

But if someone wants to buy a house they can't afford, suddenly finances matter again, and that's for shelter. You don't need marriage.

I wonder what plan the kid is on. HIS kid

Yup

Yeah, why should the tax payer fund his lifestyle? She's taking care of him and his child, not me, why am I on the hook for her bills? He's reaping all the benefits and someone else gets to cough up the cash. Also guaranteed he has one foot out the door and will abandon this woman and child altogether at the drop of the hat, meaning the tax payer will start having to pay their section 8 housing, food stamps, and care for this woman in her retirement. Man up or don't impregnate people!

Ummm...you would have to anyway because unless married, some women do not work. She is an adult!

💯💯💯 These kinds of people annoy me!

​@@stratelite1337 you're 12 bro

I guess her womaning up isn't an option?

@@luminous6969 what would "womaning up" entail?

Especially since most women work full-time, whether they have kids or not.

Totally agree!

You are 💯 right!

We have DNA testing, so it isn't hard to determine who the biological father is. Whether married or not, fathers should be on the hook to pay child support for children they create.

I saw this in a special about destroying the black family. A good husband was considering divorcing his wife for the simple reason that she could collect more benefits by not being married to him.

Women are becoming more and more desperate.

@@Nolaman70 and yet I remain single. Most humbling indeed.

@@Nolaman70 especially when they are near the age of 30+

Women have low standards

​@@handsomeawkward1822 stop being awkward

I know a lot of people that approached their relationship/family this way and all of them are still together and very loving, al the ones I know who insisted on getting married first are all divorced now.

@@Lon1001 interesting. From my observations, I have seen the exact opposite. Those in this case who stayed married are miserably so, remaining together because they didn't want to split the assets.

@@Lon1001Because being willing to commit to life with someone over a child before marriage makes all the sense in the world.

Facts!!! Dr. John is an asset to the show.

@@KC-kg3ld Agreed. He’s my favorite personality. I’m glad that he speaks his opinion even if it disagrees with Dave. I think that’s one of (the many) reasons they hired him.

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

We need to start petitioning our petitioning our local representatives to stop this nonsense. Why should we be paying people not to get married

Medicaid, but yes

@MasterShake89 I hear you. At this point, Medicaid for all is a better option than the idiocy we have now.

Well, technically, everyone should be treated as an adult and she is definitely not a kid so...

Totally agree. Get away from this guy.

Dude is a loser with that mind set.

Uh...they have a baby, own a house...etc 😂

Too late, they have a kid

She's already baby trapped him now she wants spousal support on top of child support.

Tell the state to keep their sticky fingers out of the marriage business and cede it to the church, maybe people will value it again. Currently, as it is, marriage is a rip-off.

I love it! Wish we had done it that way. Our wedding day was more than we two introverts wanted or needed. 😀

Exactly… that’s why so many don’t get married. They keep living off the system.

@@deecali Maybe fix the system then? Idk why everyones so upset about people choosing to not get married for financial reasons. If they can't afford it, they can't afford it. the $400+ of expenses a month to a 60k yearly income is a lot to bear to be legally married. This guy already has a family. Why should he get married? To make you feel better about about more people getting married?

@@ChadmladYou missed the advice about the spiritual and emotional connection. Plus data was presented showing that married couples win financially the long run.

Don't hate the player, hate the game

Exactly. He said as much.

@@perotal no, I'm going to hate the actions of the player too... Just because it's legal doesn't mean it's moral. The Govt program was developed to help out a SINGLE mom with a child... but they've moved in together and are married in all ways except a piece of paper. So yeah, they absolutely are gaming the system and I'm not cool with paying for that... but I have to.

​@@sidwhiting665No sorry there smart tax payers just payed for SVB

Why would he call in with this question then?

How is marriage a convenience to him, when he's not even married?? Sounds like more of an inconvenience since it will cost them a huge portion of their monthly take home pay.

@@Lon1001 I don't mean that as a particular to him, but as a general statement to the state of marriage itself. Also, convenience is meant as the ancients understood it, not as the modern one you inputted. What you just wrote would be unintelligible to them, i.e. Aquinas, Farabi, Maimonides, Aristotle, etc.

Amen

And what happens when her friends and parents hear the call from this loser???

No she’s not. She’s a stay at home unmarried mother. If she leaves, she’s almost guaranteed a life of poverty

@@privacyplease1556 that’s why he’s a double dirtbag- she’s a financial hostage when she should be an honorable woman and be married to a MAN instead of shacking up with an immature boy who wants to play “house.”

She chose to get knocked up by a loser. She has the life she deserves, just like him.

@@privacyplease1556 she has a life of poverty as is with a can kicker who doesn’t want her health insured because “the premiums will go up”. Her and the child has more value than to be hanging around with a can kicker.

This is ONLY about money. Stay single and continue to abuse the welfare system OR get married and be completely off the system.

Yep. After crunching the numbers, she just isn't worth it. That's perfectly acceptable. Women do it all the time. They make marriage and divorce decisions based on a man's income.

Sounds more like fear to me

@@kindredkey yah.... I guess we listened to two different videos.

It's just a ceremony. Who cares.

​@@firefly9838There is a HUGE difference between a wedding and a marriage. The 2 are not comparable.

Yeah One’s a funeral and the other is a life sentence.

Most women have to know that they need to be adults as well. I mean you guys can have kids, but that is no excuse.

@wewhoareabouttodiesaluteyo9303 that's exactly why I think being a stay at home mom is unwise. So is not having, and keeping up, a job skill adequate to pay for childcare as well as living expenses if you have to go solo. But part of being an adult is not being a pushover. And a legal contract is the least I'd expect if someone wanted me to take part in bringing a kid into the world.

Had she been responsible, she would not be staring single motherhood in the face. She thought she would trap someone by becoming pregnant, so her plan worked to an extent but otherwise has backfired. Also, the guy needs a DNA test on the kid to confirm his parentage.

She's clearly a welfare queen who has the system figured out. It's just an unethical ordeal.

@@christinebutler7630And paying for other people to raise your children makes all the sense in the world? Not ever being home to be with your children makes sense? The best thing I can do for my kids, aside from staying with their dad, is to be here for them.

Experience from sticking one's foot in one's mouth.

This is why they brought Jon on board.

I mean, your lifestyle does affect how much money you have lol

@@danielrn133 He mainly focusses on the mental side of things while George, Jade and Kristina do a little of everything and Ken focusses on career stuff.

I couldn’t have said it better myself.​@@vanesslifeygo

The power of diversification.

It feels a lot better raw.

@@strangeroamer3219nobody’s denying that still irresponsible to bring a child into a world where you’re unhappy, unsatisfied and immature. Plan accordingly and if you’re going to be a family man BE THAT. Instant pleasure is the biggest problem of today.

@@Dontrollingyou know nothing about this man but judge away

He would never say the same with a female caller, challenge me

No just the kids

That would be Ramsey Saudi Arabia.

Tell the fiance to get six jobs.

Nah, Papa Dave always beats out beans and rice. He doesn't want this guy anywhere near his daughters so he's not letting him manipulate this woman

It's not that simple. He may not want to work a 2nd job and try to cover the different which will cause more stress and time. He's option would be lyfy, Uber or some type of delivery service which would cause more wear and tear and maintenance on his vehicle. In the end its not worth it and she probably not either.

@@tsaunders4684 exactly my point if her value isn’t more than a car or finding a new job then they don’t need to get married. Wear and tear on your car is not a reason to call off a wedding. We’ve heard Dave say either paint or get off the ladder, he needs to go ahead and step down. He’s looking for reasons to not marry her when people that want to be married find reasons to do so.

@@chuckiedavidson719 But he knows there really no upside for him to marry her. I'm sure he taking care of his child. Marriage is just not worth it for most men today. There really no upside for him while risking having to pay alimony down the road. The divorce rate is now over 60% in America just in case you didn't know.

There is no love when divorce laws came into the picture.

How is he selfish for wanting his whole family to have more money?

​@@Matt-sq5zw You get more money the right way - better jobs, cutting spending, use cash, etc.

@Jim Roscovius no. His girlfriend needs to stop being selfish, lazy and manipulative and go to work.

@Air Force to Civilian Chronicles I agree with that. I and my wife both work, and we had kids too.

Marriage is about money, how she’s going to be an stay at home mom is there’s no money coming

@@willjean1614 It is not about no money coming... it is about if they get married she will lose her welfare benefits. This guy makes money... but if they do get married she losses her welfare benefits and some things like health insurance will go up.

@@willjean1614 You know what I mean.

Depending on what state he’s in he is already common law married. 🤷🏽‍♀️ how about don’t have a kid with someone you wouldn’t marry!?!?But too often this isn’t the case.

That's what happened to me in 2004. When I was engaged to my ex-wife, our parents were pestering us on when we are going to officially tie the knot. All of our friends at the time were getting married so we did it to keep up with the Jones's. This should have been an omen, but I just didn't think of it back then. But this is an omen for sure, when we returned from our honeymoon, the city of San Jose lost our marriage license and we had to go before a judge to fix the problem. My instincts were telling that was very odd, but I thought it could laugh at it in the future. Little did I know that was a sign of what was yet to come. I've been divorced since 2011 without children. I learned a valuable lesson don't get married unless it's the right move without a reasonable doubt.

@@spiritualcosmeticss OK, common law marriage but the gov't does not investigate this type of marriage

It is religion. They need to not only have a class in finance, but also in divorce.

@@chrisconsorte7893 we just don’t listen to our gut intuition and everything happening to avoid the situation but I’m glad yu divorced and even better no kids no child support no ex drama always listen to the universe talking to us

I can’t stand this guy!! I heard it on the full show and listened again now. It’s nauseating!

So being nerdy os disgusting to you? You wouldn't be watching RU-vid if it wasn't for a nerdy guy

Caller sounds like a guy that hasn't come to terms with his own homosexuality. He is in this "relationship" as a cover.

​@@jeromehenry4484 No he is not. He just using logic and knows deep down inside that he shouldn't get married.

@@tsaunders4684 He shouldn't be creating children he has no intention of financially supporting, leaves taxpayers footing his financial responsibilities as a biological father. By the way, there is probably more than just medical insurance subsidy, like food stamps, Life Line, ACP, etc. Don't understand why you want to support some other man's child when you didn't get to sleep with the mother at least once.

He is paying his own.

@@jimmymcgill6778 and he doesn’t want to add his gf to his plan because Uncle Sam (we the people) are funding her healthcare.

@@silentnot4812 exactly …

@@jimmymcgill6778 but we’re paying for his family; wife and child.

That is what bothers you? Not the fact that Warren Buffet pays 0.1% in taxes and he is one of the richest people in the world. But that someone who is on welfare, and perhaps should be on welfare may or may not get married due to losing benefits. You are watching to much foxnews cause welfare is not the problem... and I believe we need to be providing more money and more benefits to people on welfare.

Of course, why would you leave your sugar mama? What a stupid question!

Agreed. If the two individuals take courtship patiently to make sure they both Yoke together properly, the marriage works out. There will be bumps along the Road Way, but they are marble size bumps not bowling balls. It is doable and manageable as long as you are following God's direction. Non-religious individuals will dismis marriage as oppressive and useless and replace it with a life of lust, selfishness, unhealthy lifestyle that they call good. It is sad but true.

@@JohnPaul-ol5zl Amen!

Absolutely!!

Women always can attest to benifits

Which comes out to less benefit in the amount he would lose in divorce.

It’s the opposite for her. She needs to calculate the costs of being unmarried. If he plots before her and they don’t get married, she is homeless with a baby and his parents get his estate

^Watch further back, 3:00

@@LittleMopeHead I heard that. Why he said "her son", not "our son"...it doesn't add.

@@XXnickles I heard "our son" originally, but now that you mentioned it, not sure anymore.

How come he didn't mention the payroll tax deduction or double the standard deduction savings?

Really. Stop taking money from the neighbors and pay for your own family

$60K is low income

I agree, but can understand where he's coming from. When you're lower-to-mid middle class, you make enough to where to you don't qualify for anything, but you don't make enough to where stuff like healthcare and education are still really expensive for you. $5000/year is pretty substantial on an average salary. That's just in premiums. He also mentions that his deductibles would double, which means one unexpected hospital visit could be an even bigger blow. Anyone saying they wouldn't at least have similar thoughts in a similar situation is cap.

@@panzer_TZ exactly. It's better to keep the girlfriend and the child on the free service. He makes 60K per year so he's paying taxes.

A wimp like him would never make it in the military. He’s not a man he’s a little boy.

Not all states have common law marriage.

They all do. Go before the judge, owning a house and having a baby and the judge is gonna treat you like the husband end of discussion. It is what it is.

It really starts just after 1:35 🤔😳😆

😂😅

The way he sounds, yeah. If he said the truth, Dave wouldn't let him on the show.

Shows you didn’t watch this video he clearly said she at 3:17

Right? Don't make someone a mother that you would not make a wife!

Living the dream

You may be missing the point.

4800 extra per year is an extra 400 per month which seems like a lot but its not as much as some guys take on getting into marriage. Especially if they are taking on by themselves the burden of providing for their wife or kids

@@russle1054 Its 2023 I know sooo many people with kids together 10+ years never married for various reasons...Its normal now to me I feel like if you have kids you SHOYUDL be married but times have changed...

We are getting duped. We pay fiance's healthcare because they didn't get the license. She reports little to no income but they, best I can tell, live as married. He created the baby who apparently keeps her from working more. I am sick of paying the bills for couples like this...

We are talking about WELFARE. So saying a million is just stupid.

We do. Our society is so messed up. There is no shame in shacking up, making babies, then expecting the rest of us to pay their bills.

@@eurekahope5310 And that is your problem????!!!! Not that Warren Buffet pays 0.1% in total taxes!!!! Please stop watching foxnews.

My sister's ex-husband was this cheap. Needless to say, she divorced him.

He said, “We have a child together.”