LET'S ARGUE: J. Cole Isn't Even Big 3 

NO PLEASE

@@isaacdr3w62 dork

oh my God

“We” being Anthony and Cal

goddammit

Fr I’m so uncomfortable watching this I’m sorry Anthony but if you want human contact try a video call next time

@@MrPoKe007fr

now I'm imagining a Let's Argue with fantano and Cal, that would be fun

@@eedoan That would be go insaneo style

It’s AI bro, everything is AI

Like, Jonny Cash didn't just 'cover' Hurt by Nine Inch Nails? It was a transformative performance that is now the preferred version.

I love declarative statements on subjective topics.

Well, some covers don't really do much but I agree :l

@@acksawblackyou don’t need to say “in my opinion” before every single statement. You can just infer that the statement is subjective based on what the person is talking about. Not addressing their argument and instead going after them because they left out a clunky and unnecessary phrase seems like a cope to me tbh

@@mingledingle1556 that just makes you a well adjusted person and not the norm hah

Lmfaoo

Watch how Buggy ends up being the pirate king

But have you thought about the size and influence of buggy’s feet?

@@4dbagel945 good point, but Luffy can always stretch and have a ginormous feet if he wills to. I guess Buggy wins against Blackbeard in terms of feet, since i theorize that BB's feet would smell horrendous, potentially the grossest thing in all of the Blue Sea. Even outside of Big 4, does Buggy have the best feet in the game still? I don't think so, I have many names in my mind that would fit that, so i don't think it's correct to put him in big 4 by focusing on that quality.

@@bienzoo Mothafuck the big 3 it’s just big feet

I was gonna say having two people older then me standing up and arguing brings me back to childhood!! Fantano experimenting with some mummy and daddy play

This is your Dad introducing your step-Mom to you

@@vinceeager8553Wait you’re so right

Probably trauma

My talk started off the same way too .. Lets argue... You're Father isn't even Big 3 ...or somethin idk

bot?

@@neuronaljunctiondecay5673 no you >:V

thatistheplan been real quiet ever since this dropped

You’re forgetting thatistheplan

Cal Chuchesta?

9. Melon Hearts

Disc 2. 1) Count melon out

@@runningman3769 11. Clown 🤡

Melon Morale and the Big Chuchestas

Stop tap dancing around the controversy

lmaoooooooo. You too funny bro😭

Heyyyyyooooo!

But doesn’t he love vegan cookie recipe?

🎶BBL DRIZZY, OH! BB ELL DRIZZAAAY, HOOO HOO-HOO🎶

Fr lol

Ugly Plaza *

​@@ludou7🙄

She lowkey looks like that lady from ratatouille

Melon tryin to clap

​@athilhenderson971 and?

after the apology he did it to himself

He deserves it for what he did to his fans

Even still.. a lot of people will tune into “The Fall Off” (God that album name has aged poorly) to see what he has to say.. but it’s not gonna hit the same. And anytime he says he “wants smoke” on the album - people are gonna fast forward 10 seconds or change to next track 💀

​@@firstlast9846you mean gracefully

Only move that’ll save him a full diss album that goes hard

JL Cole

Tf ,thats his government name 🤦🏾he's called Jermaine Lamarr Cole hence Jcole

​@@LutherTheOner/woooosh

​@@LutherTheOner/whoooosh

@@LutherTheOneactually his name is Jermaine Cole Lamar. His last name is Lamar. Kendrick’s middle name is Lamar. Kendrick Lamar Duckworth

Lmao 🤣🤣

He shoulda never been up there in the first place

We all knew? You’re basically taking knee which is a bitch move. That’s it period.

@@Orpheus_Onlineyou gotta tell me somebody who raps on his level that would replace him

​@@dashondennis-watkins530maybe Denzel

Perfectly said

big 3 consists of rappers whose main strength is lyrics,bars and flows. travis or future are trap rappers and lyrically weak, production,autotune and flows carry them. they wouldn't fit in the big 3 where the two others are drake and kendrick, neither future or travis can body cole while rapping. cole kendrick drake is the perfect big 3

I thought it was about right now. If it's strictly 2010s then it's Kanye.

terrible list, kid rock over fred any day.

​@@KL6Soup Wrong. Obviously G-Eazy

No Tom macdonald?!?

No Macklemore???

No MGK??

What's craziest is Fantano bringing a woman on screen

For real, Cal's made a massive comeback on the main channel

Fantano has been off the rails this year lmao

​@@skilless935 this is not the first time. Guessing you're new here.

Divorce really made a number on him lmao

Wild

Why did we ever ditch top 5, 5 was a number that felt like could include different lanes and vibes while forcing you to be selective. 3 is some real scarcity mindset, "what grain based food should go?" type beat

J Cole just saidbthat and now everyone's acting like its a thing

W take, actually.

​@@ogpandamonium literally, it was just a cold bar he wrote for first person shooters, not meant to be some codified rap bible "the big 3". Theres really no big 3, kendricks one of the best technically skilled but theres plenty of rappers out there who can go toe to toe with him

Well in Metal, there was 'the Big Four'; so either J Cole said this to be deliberately different OR ....someone else popularized the idea of big 3 in hip hop culture 🤷‍♂️

Tf you mean Kendrick isn't in the big 3 OAT

​@@username-ek1kdHe's not

​@@JACK-OMARI I would think K has a better shot than anyone else in the modern Era at this point

People need go swap "fantano you didn't need to say racist thing and " it would be an 8 if it were blank" with Corey Feldman relating comments or just the word Corey Feldman

The best version of Corey Feldman is Donatello the Ninja Turtle from 1990 .

I disagree because if their dominance continues into the next Era why would it matter? I don't think Wayne has but kanye for me definitely

You're correct. It's more about the time in which they came up and maintained their status. People can say whatever they want but Cole has progressively been getting better and I'm here for it

theyre still influencing this generation tho too, so i think its also valid to carry them into big three this gen too - minus kanye in that

​@@runa_7022why minus kanye

Why minus Ye?? ​@@runa_7022

based list. I would put my sleep paralysis demon at 2 though, just so much versatility

What about Cal???

So this is where people go to develop mental disorders 😭

@@conors.6669who do you think my sleep paralysis demon is?

Idk how to tell you this but your sleep paralysis demon has been visiting me in my sleep 😔😔😔

If we're talking about the new generation of rappers than for sure but if we're talking about the 2010 to 2019 decade I'd put kanye in that conversation

@@Flat_top_king12 Kanye came out in ‘04, he does not fit there.

X looked up to Cole ….

X probably looked up to cole because they were/are both wildly overrated.

@@nedisahonkey X probably looked up to cole because they were/are both wildly overrated. - fantano and his clones

@@EthanShen-dh7sq If you can't make a good argument just claim I'm a fantano follower and then like your own comment. You're clearly a master debater.

​@@WickedHill And... 🤷🏾‍♂️

why you so pressed about it lil bro??

Ur right we need to be talking more about the real rappers like Viper

You know I’m sure people will give you shit for this comment but yeah it’s starting to get annoying af 😭 it was fun at first but now 😑

Kendrick drake ice spice Travis scott Eminem Kanye

@@kmw319tell him!

- Give me your wallet or i hit u in the face - No, dude! F you... I herebly warn you i can handle a fight and you can get screwed so you better turn around and leave -..... - Umm, wait. Maybe you need this wallet more than me actually. I'm sorry I threatened you when you jumped on me. Here you go, take this and i hope we can stay friends. I didnt mean to cause any harm and i want to stay in my own lane.

he's got the meat lolololol

Yooo 😭

Pusha t also dropped a dope ass arbys commercial

if drake's arbys cole is high school cafetaria

Damn this didn’t age well

@@joelknopp2323 What did I say that didn’t age well?

Well for starters, Kendrick responded plenty hence why you're comment didn't age well. Also, these people hating on cole too much fr

Drake's going to give his existence a redux

@@countyfacts6920In 2 pac’s ai voice too

I feel like this should be the next discussion on the Joe Budden podcast

That girl has to be 28 at LEAST dawg

​@@countyfacts6920 BRO 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

Just smile and wave, smile and wave

A polish man is talking, listen and learn

Naw, that’s Honeydew

nah melon is

Rap is about the bars and will forever be about the bars. Ya'll can hype all that other stuff and get crunk or whatever, but Rap and Hip Hop over all is about craftsmanship, elevation, and competition.

@@TallicaMan1986 not true rap is about the content just as much as the bars

@@TallicaMan1986”crunk” LMAO

I don't think it had anything to do with technical ability (because if it did, Drake wouldn't be on the list) It just so happened that they were the three most beloved/popular rappers of the 2010s, so the label was put there by the fans.

@@TallicaMan1986lmfao you’ve gotta be at least 40. Your time is up, old man

Kanye is from an older gen, I think that’s why he’s not being included. I believe his era big 3 contenders were Eminem , 50 cent and himself I hate that mf but he is really one of the most influential artists out there. They’re not leaving him out, it’s just a different gen

@@totallynotS1 that's a good point, but Kanye continued to be influential into the 2010s with MBDTF, Yeezus, life of Pablo, Ye. If anything those are my favourite of his albums and from a decade where 50 cent and Eminem not really relevant.

He would be top 3 if he didn't drink a 12 pack, whip it out, and absolutely drench his reputation. But it's soaked and it needs to dry out for a while. Too bad he keeps on pissing

@@vegbetlemy brother we’re almost halfway through the 2020’s. the 2010’s ARE the previous era hes talking about. And Kanye hasn’t put out good work in like 7 years

@@totallynotS1 If youre talking about his era then top3 would be Em, Andre 3000 and MF DOOM

Facts. I'm just sitting here reading and watching while shaking my head

It’s because Cole himself claimed that was the big 3, anyone over 30 that I speak to about it completely disagrees with it.

@@kazerossb cause old heads are biased towards the music they grew up with. They refuse to accept that kendrick, drake, and Cole are in fact, the big three of this current generation. Whatever the big three was back then doesn't matter now, they're outdated for a reason.

@@jokerbatman3516 I don’t know nobody in the world who’s favorite artist is cole. Most I see is he drops something and people bump it for a week then it’s gone. No reason for him to be big 3 and Tyler is 100% more influential than cole.

@@travisdavis7290 That's just crazy to hear. Idk who you're hanging around that doesn't listen to cole enough that he's their favorite artist. Idk much about Tyler to say he's more influential than cole, but I haven't heard anyone rank him higher than Cole

Isn’t this whole big 3 thing about 2010s artists?

Kanye is in a different generation, though, no?

If it wasn't the big 3 of the 2010s none of them would be on it, it would be pac em and ye

I 100% agree even if I don’t like some of the artists

@@sandensonhe’s multi generational

Facts

Who? Outside of anthony

Shit I forgot Austen. Sorry Austen!

@@blarghblargh who is austen?

@@asherrmathewshe’s one of Anthony’s editors, seemingly the person with the biggest input on his videos other than him. He mentions her a lot.

Cal?

​@@HelkrugCal Cuchester

clearly no #1 is DJ CRIB DEF no debate

J Cal

The vast majority of humans aren't that creative. Not to rip on them or anything, but True creativity is so incredibly rare. Most of us are recycling stuff and will continue doing it subconsciously. And besides. I already heard some rather Banger Ai music lol. Yeah it comes off as a bit bland and generic like how Most Beginners will sound, but pretty soon. It's going to be able to take creative liberties during the rendering process and there might even be a slider or an option to do that. In a DAW. There's a VST for Kontakt thats a guitar. There's a knob in which you can add randomness to it like its a human playing as opposed to the riff sounding the exact same everytime it's repeated. Ai is a space in art that we didn't think was possible. I believe this is more a blessing in disguise then anything else. Nobody had the foresight to see that Ai could be creative before taking over white collar jobs and labour jobs.

Almost every "new" idea is just recycled or repackaged from old ideas

@@TallicaMan1986 the difference is that humans have personality, and that personality will more often than not show in their music. that, and they'll also make errors and have those little humanizing touches that you can only get from a human. computers do not have personality and so they have nothing to express. it's actually pretty disturbing how many people are willing to defend AI infecting creative mediums way before actually doing something beneficial to society. a VST using a "randomizing" algorithm to simulate human playing (which is still *simulated*) is not the same as AI generating slop that's being directly pulled by other artists based off of a prompt that you write in 14 seconds. there is also a world of difference between a human being inspired by something and those influences making their way in their own music, and telling a computer "make a 4 minute track that sounds like Metallica". even if the human is "just copying" another artist, they are still using their brain and their human impulses to think of a song that sounds good to their ears, and composing it whether it be on an instrument or in a DAW. there is still artfulness in that because you are engaging your mind and your body in some way to make sound. there is no artfulness in telling a computer to generate music and then putting it on the internet to sell for money or rack up views on social media, and to say "AI art is fine because humans aren't that creative anyway" is a very pessimistic and defeatist way to think about art. it's honestly quite depressing to read.

@@charlenemaximumget his ass

​@@TallicaMan1986i think this is a superficial take. It's true that no one creates anything out of thin air, but, even just subconsciously, people never copy someone's idea as is, even when the origin of it is clear, it gets mixed up with that person's personal beliefs and personality to the point where it gets different, original, in a way, because YOU made it. AI doesn't have anything inherently in it that does that, it copies work from other artists as is, it doesn't have any ability to fill what's missing or to produce anything truly interesting. In sure AI has produced some interesting things here and there, but art is not about making things, is about making good things, if you just keep trying you will eventually make something good, with ai one could say the process gets easier, but let's not pretend ai can create anything a human could not because it's not true, not at this time. Also, an important point I don't see people talking enough about, ai is cool and all when there is enough art around for it to learn and copy, but if the content we give the ai is made by other ai, the process brakes down really quickly. AI doesn't produce art that is better than the content used to teach it, people can do that. Now, what does "better" mean in this case is debatable, but the point remains

The apology. He too weak to be inna Big 3 💀

And the music 🤡😆

Jcole been clowned on since b4 the apology. I like alot of his music but I never understood why people were always hyping him up as apart of the big 3

These comments revisionist asf lmao

The issue is that the apology made most of his bars for the last 10 years irrelevant. He's been talking so much shit about wanting people to test him, and when someone did, he made a mid disstrack where he was clearly lying about his opinion of Kendrick's music, and then apologised. In 48 hours he destroyed the image he spent over a decade building.

FRRRR

I mean I'm happy for bro but Jesus why is she in like every other video and live stream

@@ChadIs she is?

@@tristanfrench7198isn’t melon married?

@zeedananwar1740 she was in his live stream recently and I think they made a review or something together. Idk it's nothing against her but I subbed to Fantano so I get kinds annoyed when he starts shoving guests into his videos when he's a music critic. I don't care about other people's opinion I subscribed for his specifically

ok but in terms of influence who would be the big 3 music critics? Pitchfork, Rolling Stone, and???

@@isaacdr3w62 Man that's depressing

@@isaacdr3w62Brad Taste in Music

@@isaacdr3w62Village voice dude, robert christgau

​@@isaacjones5937 Christgau is a legend but what's his influence like today? How about Stephen Thomas Erlewine - surely everyone online has read at least one of his allmusic reviews

Enjoy it while it lasts, Fantano is in his thot era. He'll have a new baddie in 2 weeks.

​@@nedisahonkey Question, do you actually go outside? Like, at all?

@@NamelessInternaut I stay fucking. Fuck touching grass, I'm grabbing ass.

​@@NamelessInternautdude he was just joking. What happened to this channel? We used to clown Fantano in the comments all the time. With love obviously

He a 2000s kid

n. the disresct to put rocky........... all because of an apology! cause cole respects a nigga

Drake has been the most popular rapper since 2010 I think he deserves to be on their lil bro

Arguments can be made against Drake AND Cole. Kendrick was right, there is no big 3, just big me

@@chiky1070 WRONG !!!! There is only BIG CAL

Well the problem is It comes down to more than just technical skill. I think most people who aren't drake stans would admit cole and kendrick are more technically skilled but Drake has the popularity, the persona, and the dominance to make up for it.

This might be a homeschooled joke lmao

damn he ain't never coming back from this one

This is going too far man...

Yo bro, you got him good there, he gonna apologize soon

@@ac-kk9er😂

Low bar

Low-key I feel the opposite. While I enjoy both of there music a lot I feel like Billie's music is more unique and varied than Olivia. Even just looking at the last 2 albums of each of them. Imo Billie feels like a metamophasis. While Olivia's feels like an evolution. If that makes sense 😅