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Letshouer S12 final mod (TOTL level) 

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This mod makes this IEM amazing as heck. You want something that can play older rock n roll, reggae, live music.. this is amazing. Easily the best Planar i've heard and beyond that, it just plain rocks.
Mod dampers: www.aliexpress.com/item/32568...

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@chrisstroud60
@chrisstroud60 2 года назад
This was the only planer iem I wanted because it looks like a normal fit. I'm happy with the olina but Im glad you put videos on how to tune I think it incredibly valuable in this hobby.
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus 2 года назад
I adore the fit and size of the S12. There are many reasons Im focused on tuning it. Not the least of which is how damn good it sounds (when refined).
@shalvaknows
@shalvaknows 9 месяцев назад
I just finished the mod, unbelievable improvement, no comparison. Don't even think about it, do the mod yall, many thanks Michael for this gift
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus 9 месяцев назад
Thanks man!!
@carminedesanto6746
@carminedesanto6746 2 года назад
I run mine in balanced with Final Audio E Tips ..it’s a great improvement. Thanks for the video 👍
@gesu1742
@gesu1742 2 года назад
So ingenious! I already have the Hook X and I'm happy, but this almost makes me feel like buying the S12 just to mod it.
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus 2 года назад
It's finally the banger planar I wanted. So fun to listen to and Basically my best bass set.. ever.
@paulosilva8200
@paulosilva8200 Год назад
@@MichaelBruceShortbus wonder if the hook x needs mod?
@wesleyleigh4063
@wesleyleigh4063 Год назад
wow, it's amazing the difference. I think i'm going to try this as I prefer a less V shaped sound. Thanks
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus Год назад
You should man. This is a force of nature.
@gilangax
@gilangax 2 года назад
damn this's what I've been looking for every time open YT.. u r the masterpiece 👌🏽 *btw I always curious about how's the inside of S12
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus 2 года назад
Many thanks my friend!! This mod is stunning.. I'm trying to make soemthing happen with LETSHUOER but its hard.
@ItsJustChase
@ItsJustChase Год назад
Youre an awesome man, I bought the s12 out of curiosity during an aliexpress sale. Once I got them I was very disappointed because of how sharp some words were when the vocalist would sing. I was about to sell these until I saw this.. im going to try this out now considering how well the extra filter on the olina did after learning that from you.
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus Год назад
These get INSANELY good. 400 value damper on back of driver, etymotic foam rubber insert piece in the bore. The bass WILL be a lot in this format so i poke the front vent.. but it turns out its VERY difficult to poke them evenly. I got a microscope and now I can do it perfectly matched L/R. If you want, I am open to helping do the mod.
@ItsJustChase
@ItsJustChase Год назад
@@MichaelBruceShortbus Went through with this mod and finally got everything together, it is a very interesting tuning. The bass reminds me of the urbanfun ybf but better technicalities.
@Thoughtflux
@Thoughtflux 2 года назад
Excellent video! Can you shed more light on the damper you used please? Where do i get one from and how do i peel out the existing one? Also the bore insert please.
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus 2 года назад
www.aliexpress.com/item/3256803866166130.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.78dc3084Z1lbYm&algo_pvid=d1c8e613-db68-492e-ad25-690e6c6404da&algo_exp_id=d1c8e613-db68-492e-ad25-690e6c6404da-8&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000027871670027%22%7D&pdp_npi=2%40dis%21USD%21%214.53%21%21%21%21%21%402101e9d316593776781696730e8ee5%2112000027871670027%21sea Dampers, 2.5 or 3.0mm :D
@Shoopy74
@Shoopy74 Год назад
Nice! I would love to listen to a demo clip comparing the Prometheus to the original. Thank you Michael for this tutorial. Salutations from France
@tomnookcrook
@tomnookcrook Год назад
Just did this mod today. I had high hopes for the mod, but actually hearing it totally blew away my expectations. It definitely needs all 3 steps - the damper and bore tube helped the tuning, but poking the front vent made it dark magic. (I did that with a small straight pin.) I didn't think the mod could be that much better than the oratory1990 EQ settings I used, but it's levels above, and I don't even need to EQ the S12 anymore. Thanks, this really breathed new life into my S12. I can only hope to hear Eru one day.
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus Год назад
Freakin awesome bro! Nice work and now you get the rewards in terms of a nice tuned planar.
@DamianSzajnowski
@DamianSzajnowski 11 месяцев назад
This work for the S12 Pro or would overdo the bass?
@izmirekonomi
@izmirekonomi Год назад
Hi MB... Thanks to you i have a killer iem now :) But i think poking the vent was a bad idea, i closed it again with 3m micropore band and this is better for 'bass slam' i think. Also i'm using Spinfit CP100 and NiceHck Silversir 6N silver cable that's just awesome! Thank you so much.
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus Год назад
Understood my friend! I have a microscope and can get that vent on point if you care. Hit me up.
@elliottsalt
@elliottsalt Год назад
did you put the micropore inside the iem or on the nozzle?
@zeissiez
@zeissiez 2 года назад
Just checked with my favorite EQ setting for the S12, +2dB at 250Hz, -2dB at 2Khz, which I created to make the S12 sound fuller, especially male vocal and to reduce forwardness of the treble. And that EQ setting conforms to the graph of your modded S12.
@JohnClarkW
@JohnClarkW 2 года назад
Thank you. Adding that -2dB at 2Khz was exactly what I was missing. I have been running mine with a bass shelf of 4-5db at 166Hz, and really enjoying that, but they were still a bit hot, and I always assumed it was in 8K range. I even dropped my bass down to 3db after that change.
@sagaman4785
@sagaman4785 2 года назад
I don’t like to eq. my stuff, mod I think is a better way to go. This mod should be a step up from the P1 Max for sure, and I like the P1 Max. Keep up the good work!
@zeissiez
@zeissiez 2 года назад
@@JohnClarkW I did try reducing the 8Khz peak, while it did make the upper register a little more natural, but it’s no way as significant as reducing the 2Khz peak.
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus Год назад
I got P1 max right here. S12 mod destroys it!
@c4monkey
@c4monkey Год назад
Thanks for you guy's eq. I did like the 166hz with low shelf. I would also say try out adding 1800hz 2-4 dB (I use 4). Brings vocals a little more forward in line with the other instruments. Before, I was feeling them more recessed for my liking
@mikelim1894
@mikelim1894 2 года назад
The graph without dampener reminds me the Focus EDM graph ;) I might try that
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus 2 года назад
I just got the EDM for testing... I hate it. Horrible IEM that is overpriced. Go figure.
@ZeusPropofol
@ZeusPropofol Год назад
Any other tips how to open the shell? Seems like they improved their glue. Seems near impossible to break open. My X-acto knife blade keeps breaking, the shell stays tight.
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus Год назад
Hot air, about 160F. Heat while holding the shell until your fingers are hot.
@TonkyTronicus
@TonkyTronicus Год назад
Just finished the mod. I heard it briefly at Canjam thanks to a kind fellow Short Bus fan but damn... I don't even know what to say. Huge improvement. I don't understand how you can remove the grill but still cut down on sibilance and treble harshness; I guess the back filter really helps a lot. Yet another Short Bus win. Someone needs to scoop you up for a real sound engineer position. (Exotica by Martin Denny is an experience on the Prometheus)
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus Год назад
NICE BRO!!! I think I heard Grizzly talking about you. Whats fixing the treble is the insert in the bore tube.. along with the back driver damper.. moves all the peaks, etc. Makes it amazing. Glad you got a listen my man!
@TonkyTronicus
@TonkyTronicus Год назад
@@MichaelBruceShortbus Shout out to Grizzly. Cool guy. Prometheus is the unicorn everyone has been looking for of an IEM that sounds like a full sized headphone. Sounds went from being a few inches tall on stock S12 tuning to sounding room filling and life size on Prometheus. It's crazy listening to anything at all on them.
@gyurko
@gyurko Год назад
Hey man, did you use a microscope to poke the front vent? Thanks!
@blitz6167
@blitz6167 Год назад
Where/How can I get the bore inserts ? ( I'm relatively new to the hobby ) , also do the dampers and/or the bore narrowing improve the bass ? since poking the front vents takes off the bass . Thanks a lot for the idea and the video .
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus Год назад
Be careful poking the front vents, there is a v2 of the shell that has larger diameter holes and it requires a 250 or 300 value damper after poking. The bore inserts are from Etymotic foam tips: www.amazon.com/Etymotic-Research-ER38-14F-Replacement-Eartips/dp/B0078JXDRI/ref=sr_1_1?crid=EVKL9IEEHN9Q&keywords=etymotic+foam+tips&qid=1661091923&sprefix=etymotic+foam+tips%2Caps%2C116&sr=8-1
@andyjackson2910
@andyjackson2910 Год назад
Hello I have just got my s12 's but the grill has come off 1 of them. how do I get it back on to stay on? thank you.
@blobeyeordie
@blobeyeordie 2 года назад
Very interesting tuning mod. Out of curiosity do you have any measurements of just the external vent/port being opened up without the internal driver filter? I was actually quite surprised, shocked actually, to hear how airy and open the sound is just by removing that vent filter thing(or poking a hole in it rather). Fortunately, however, it appears to be easily reversible by just covering the vent port with a small piece of tape or sticker. But Im wondering if I can get a reading as to what portion of the low end it affects to see if I can eq it back but still retain the airyness, if at all possible of course. Thanks for something fun to try out by the way!
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus 2 года назад
Sadly I think I deleted the graph entirely. This driver does so well with bass, I was focused on maximizing that aspect. Good point though, poking out the front vent means you can easily modify the bass response either being more or less than stock.
@Mykeoguns
@Mykeoguns Год назад
Please link to the rubber that was inserted in the nozzle/ bore.
@yo3429
@yo3429 Год назад
Namaste Michael! About your mod: Pinna gain is pretty well done, almonst perfect! So I do like it too, that's the sweet spot! Congrats :) I picked up the z version after catching your mod vlog. Just wonder (before I start to tune the z12), if the fall off around 8k of the modded version is to accept and comes with the rear damper mod, or if it has other reasons?
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus Год назад
The rear damper mod changes the entire mid and bass shelf. Then I bleed the excess bass of via front damper. The insert in the bore helps control the treble around 8k.
@jawaligt
@jawaligt 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for doing all this detective work! For the S12 pro, do you recommend just putting in the two different dampers and the tubing in the bore (Glamdring mod) or changing the back damper and piercing the pinhole as well?
@normalhumanbeing6066
@normalhumanbeing6066 Год назад
i love mud so this was very cool thanks man
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus Год назад
You might be mistaken.
@The_lastfallen
@The_lastfallen 2 года назад
plz tell me because i need your experience 🙏🏻 i finally got to 2 choices, Monarch Mk2 & Moondrop variation !! my only concern is about Monarch Mk2 in the part of bass !! is better than variation in part of bass?? do you think Monarch Mk2 is worth paying twice as much?? i will be happy if you have a better recommend!!
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus 2 года назад
I can't say man. Never tried The Monarch or MK2. I can say Variations has a low midbass shelf and a ton of subs.. might be different than Monarch MK2 by a bit.
@arup_en
@arup_en Год назад
Can I do it with the s12 pro?
@ayushbhaumik7980
@ayushbhaumik7980 11 месяцев назад
Can I use 4mm 300 mesh instead of 3mm 300 instead? Any other mesh sizes you can suggest?
@colorpilot
@colorpilot Год назад
is the "unknown soldier" IEM still a thing or has this replaced it, if not what do you prefer unknown soldier or s12 mod?
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus Год назад
The Unknown soldier mod is not this, It's my favorite retuning of Olina.
@Allaces305
@Allaces305 2 года назад
Amazing work bro.. I'm still looking for a used cheap set to get this mod done..👍
@MichaelBruceTaos
@MichaelBruceTaos 2 года назад
Lets make it happen. I might give ya a call here in a bit
@Mixail747
@Mixail747 2 года назад
The diameter of the insert should match the nozzle diameter? Any idea what can be used for the inserts other than Etymotic tips?
@audioAI
@audioAI 2 года назад
Any other silicone tips' inside with right diameter.
@Mixail747
@Mixail747 2 года назад
@@audioAI The problem is that for tips they usually specify inner diameter, while I can only tell the outer one that equals the nozzle (~4.6 mm)
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus 2 года назад
Im getting some silicone tubes and see if I can match the ety tips. Soon.
@Mixail747
@Mixail747 2 года назад
@@MichaelBruceShortbus Cool, keep us posted
@matrixmodulator
@matrixmodulator Год назад
If i just want to reduce treble a little, about 1db or 2. Will it work fine if i get high density foam on aliexpress? I like the overall tuning i just wish the treble was a little lower.
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus Год назад
Thats the entire thing im doing, tuning that down. I cant say anythign except shrinking the bore down will hit the treble.. but it will pop up in the super highs.
@Tomas123110
@Tomas123110 Год назад
Hey what is the inner diameter of the hole on the insert that you put into the bore?
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus Год назад
about 3.15mm but it squashes down a hair to around 3mm
@someoneusa
@someoneusa 17 дней назад
Does the Pole the vent mod only work on planar? Been looking for a way to add soundstage and /or reduce 8k, to a few single DDs. Curios too if there is a mod that brings up lower mids? Thanks!!
@rishabhs2010
@rishabhs2010 2 года назад
Michael can u compare your modded version with the Dioko in future? As I might grab on of them. Thanks 😊
@MichaelBruceTaos
@MichaelBruceTaos 2 года назад
I can try, who knows if i'll run into it.
@rishabhs2010
@rishabhs2010 2 года назад
@@MichaelBruceTaos plz lemme know whenever u be able to do it brother Thanks 👍
@MichaelBruceTaos
@MichaelBruceTaos 2 года назад
@@rishabhs2010 I got a friend that said he was getting a pair so maby in my future!
@yablokosmonaut571
@yablokosmonaut571 Год назад
Bought a second hand one today out of faith in this - shelled out the extra $10 for Ety foams in case the Etymotic cores are the only ones with that particular diameter. It'll be frustrating waiting for the filters to come from China, but at least it's meant to be a pretty good IEM in stock form while I wait!
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus Год назад
400 value on back of the driver. I can't find anything that works as well as the ety foam inserts. When you poke the front vent, fair warning, its VERY hard to get exactly right on both sides. If you go too far a 300 or 350 damper on the vent will fix it.
@yablokosmonaut571
@yablokosmonaut571 Год назад
Hi Michael, I like my IEMs warm and spacious. Just earlier today I added my first PEQ to an IEM, and it was to raise the low end of the Penon Serial a further 3dB. Today was also when the filters arrived from China! I have to say, this may as well be a modder’s KIT for how easily it opens (I’ve struggled far harder with pistachios) and reseals without glue. Plus the perfect diameters inside and out of the etymotic bores…? Someone divine has been ordering our works patiently for this mod to happen. Well, I listened to my first 10 seconds and I’m already pretty sure I’m going to LOVE these. I’ll be busy the rest of the evening but can’t wait to hear more and share more soon! So warm, and bass has impact!
@gyurko
@gyurko Год назад
Hello Michael! Thanks for the amazing video. I'm about to try the mod myself. I have a slight condensantion issue with my pair, though. Small droplets of water appear on the nozzle grill after a couple of hours using the IEM. How do you think taking the grill away would affect that? Should I still do it? Thanks again!
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus Год назад
that will fix that entirely, also the grill is not a damper so you can remove it and just use it like that if you wanted. Now I will say that modifying the front vent is NOT easy without a microscope to see what you did. Poking a hole is going to be random chance at best.
@gyurko
@gyurko Год назад
@@MichaelBruceShortbus I see. So to be clear, the mod is removing the grill and adding the rubber ring only, right? Thank you again.
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus Год назад
@@gyurko No, that is only the last part of it, I have to open the IEM, replace the back driver damper, then add that stuff to the front bore AND poke holes in the front vent to decrease bass to where it sounds good
@gyurko
@gyurko Год назад
@@MichaelBruceShortbus Yes, I saw the entire video. I meant on the front bore part, the idea is to take the grill off entirely, replacing it with the rubber ring, right?
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus Год назад
@@gyurko yep!
@mikelim1894
@mikelim1894 2 года назад
Can anyone share a link where can get the 3.0 400 filter?
@daddychunk
@daddychunk 2 года назад
Aliexpress , search for "earphone filters" There only a couple of quid 🙂
@ZeusPropofol
@ZeusPropofol 2 года назад
Seems like you rock them with an open nozzle without the metal grill. Do I need to put back metal mesh grill on the nozzle or it's going to affect the sound?
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus 2 года назад
I don't really see the point of the grill, but I'll slap one on when i get some extras. It does not affect the sound.
@shawnhitchcock7541
@shawnhitchcock7541 Год назад
Hey Brother, thanks for your time tweaking and sharing your results. If I just do the bore mod, will I still see a good improvement? I'm nervous about opening the shell to do the full mod.
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus Год назад
I think so, yeah it would help. I can say the newer shells are hard AF to get apart, much much harder than before.
@shawnhitchcock7541
@shawnhitchcock7541 Год назад
I figured they are, especially since I have the Z12's. Thanks for answering, I'll reply once I do it. I'm sure I should just go ahead and order the filters also, cause I'll always be wondering until I finally do the full mod. Audio OCD sucks ...lol. Enjoy the holidays my friend.
@gyurko
@gyurko Год назад
@@shawnhitchcock7541 I was thinking about doing the exact same thing. So, how was it?
@shawnhitchcock7541
@shawnhitchcock7541 Год назад
@@gyurko I just got the Etymotic tips a few days ago. Heads up anyone else wanting to do the mod, Amazon has them on sale for $10.49. I just pried the boar grill off; a pin works the best as Bruce suggested. I just cut the plastic down to 2 mm and inserted them in the boar. My granddaughter is here so it's hard to do any critical listening yet. I did notice that it tamed the treble some, and it seems to put the mids, vocal wise, a little more forward. I can't tell if it has affected the bass, if anything it seems a little more detailed in the bass. I'll try to listen more tonight when I go to bed. Ill post more once I can really give them a good listening session. Bruce thanks again for your insights. I'm still scared to try and do the filter mod on the planar. Mine are Z12's so I have a feeling they will be even harder to pry apart. Do you think if I prick that rear vent it would have a good effect, or does that mod rely on the filter over the planar? I also notice that on the Prometheus mod that you totally leave the grill off the boar, is that on purpose?
@carlosl.2673
@carlosl.2673 Год назад
I just received my S12s. I’m interested in getting this mod. Are you still offering to do the Prometheus mod and how can I contact you?
@Hijynx87
@Hijynx87 10 месяцев назад
Should I do this mod on my z12 golds? Or should I get a 2nd hand s12?
@Jemmartin
@Jemmartin 2 года назад
Which graph is stock and which is modded? The yellow line looks like every other S12 measurement is the green one the modded measurement? (Judging by its bass curve)
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus 2 года назад
Orange is modded, Green is stock. You can compare directly on shortbus.squig.link S12-SB3 is the mod
@Jemmartin
@Jemmartin 2 года назад
@@MichaelBruceShortbus thank you!
@Jemmartin
@Jemmartin 2 года назад
@@MichaelBruceShortbus I’m very interested in S12-SB graph. How was that modded? Was that from the prev S12 mod video?
@guybrushtwood
@guybrushtwood 8 месяцев назад
So the s12 is a bargain right now. Got a second set coming on Sunday. Gonna try this on my original and see if the hype is real. Dope idea. Would love to see more mods out of the community
@mikelim1894
@mikelim1894 Год назад
I have to say thank you for sharing how to mod S12. I'm comparing this modded S12 (I would call it SB12 ) with EJ07M Kinda Lava, I actually like the bass of SB12 than KL... :) I'm sure KL is better than other areas, but it's $500 more expensive. 💯💯👍
@blitz6167
@blitz6167 Год назад
How much of an improvement is " SB12 " over regular S12 is it in your opinion ?
@mikelim1894
@mikelim1894 Год назад
@@blitz6167 very noticeable bass response. Lean bass to meaty bass, recommend for hip hop, rock, male vocal.
@blitz6167
@blitz6167 Год назад
@@mikelim1894 ​oh reaallyy ? would you say that the bass actually improved even better from S12 to Modded S12 ? what other improvements / drawbacks if any , to the Modded S12 from the normal one ? Thanks a lot for the insight
@mikelim1894
@mikelim1894 Год назад
@@blitz6167 overall tuning is way better than stock S12. It depends on your taste though. If you don’t mind mid bass(planar mid bass is pretty clean and doesn’t much bleed to mid, well separated from vocal, give good energy to mid), I would recommend it. As Michael mentioned, this mod brings up 100% of potential of this planar driver. I totally agreed.
@blitz6167
@blitz6167 Год назад
@@mikelim1894 Thanks a lot for the information and the confirmation , Yes I actually like good bass , i'm getting the accessories needed . Last questions for me , what tips are you and the ones michael is using if you know ? and how hard was it to open the shells . I appreciate your help man . Have an amazing day and journey !
@SileDevil
@SileDevil 4 месяца назад
how does this tuning compare to a stock first batch mp145 ?
@amanieux
@amanieux Год назад
you say s12 with this mod is perfect for your taste but i remember you said the same thing a few weeks ago with olina and your totl mod so how does these 2 compares in your mind, do they co exist as being sidegrades or is this new s12 totl mod now closer to your individual taste ?
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus Год назад
Man, you are making me compare two incredible sets. I'd say a DD isn't a planar set and cannot be. They have certain mojo. Olina might have slightly more visceral 3D staging while S12 mod has the most insane bass ever and also some incredible detail resolution. I will personally always own both.
@amanieux
@amanieux Год назад
@@MichaelBruceShortbus a comparison olina/s12 would be interesting to us and meaningful to you for your search of your own individual "perfect" sound signature
@paulosilva8200
@paulosilva8200 2 года назад
This mod is for people like me, because i like to listen high volumes for sure.
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus 2 года назад
You know me man, I need my volume and this nails it.
@paulosilva8200
@paulosilva8200 2 года назад
@@MichaelBruceShortbus lol. You right
@fnarvii1810
@fnarvii1810 2 года назад
where can I find the 3mm 400 dampers?
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus 2 года назад
I did update the description with the parts.
@bunsw2070
@bunsw2070 2 года назад
Who do you buy the back dampers from? I've looked around the internet a little bit and not found anything even close. Thanks.
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus 2 года назад
Here ya go: www.aliexpress.com/item/3256803866166130.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.1ed43084IxQTSL&algo_pvid=06777484-0c1d-4bf2-a53d-fc91764d403b&algo_exp_id=06777484-0c1d-4bf2-a53d-fc91764d403b-11&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000027871670027%22%7D&pdp_npi=2%40dis%21USD%21%214.53%21%21%21%21%21%402101e9cf16593751220968034eb463%2112000027871670027%21sea Get 2.5mm Mixed 70 pcs. Or also the 3mm, both fit.
@bunsw2070
@bunsw2070 Год назад
@@MichaelBruceShortbus Thank you, Thank you. Thank you. I have notifications from anything to do with Google turned off and recently left Chrome for good so I had to recheck these comments from memory. I was close to checking out head-fi to see if I could find something there. No need to respond unless you can add something important but I was wondering if any of this was mentioned in previous videos? I watched several at high speed and didn't find anything. But no one else seems to be asking about this so I assume everybody knows this stuff. If so, did they learn this from Reddit or head-fi or some of your videos? I have no idea why I'm the only one that didn't know this. Maybe this could be put in the notes below the video. Maybe there's a forum where they talk about this stuff.
@profound369
@profound369 Год назад
Wondering what reason to choose 400 vs 350 or 300?
@Yemacondensada
@Yemacondensada Год назад
Hey, can the apple dongle drive this iem? and also how does your mod affect the imaging? Does it improve or it just stay the same?
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus Год назад
I would say no, the apple dongle isn't enough.. but I don't own it. I'm just going by output numbers.
@onthefences
@onthefences Год назад
Would you make the same mod for the LETSHUOER S12 PRO?
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus Год назад
Im going to be selling IEMs next month. Tune in!
@onthefences
@onthefences Год назад
@@MichaelBruceShortbus That's great news!
@sagaman4785
@sagaman4785 2 года назад
I really like the way you did this mod! Makes me want to buy one of these just for that mod. I would like to do something with the Tripowin Mila to cut down the bass and get a little more high end. Do you have a mod for that? Thanks for the good video, excellent!
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus 2 года назад
I assume you mean Mele? I'd prolly add another damper of a higher value on the bore.. but I can't be specific sadly.
@sagaman4785
@sagaman4785 2 года назад
@@MichaelBruceShortbus Sorry about the misspelling of Mele I should know better, but that’s what I meant. I have the Mele, and it lacks in the treble region. Thanks for the reply.
@sagaman4785
@sagaman4785 Год назад
I replaced the filters on the Mele with filters I had from the Olina, and it did bring out the high end better. Still I am looking at the Kai because the mids are still not as forward on the Mele. Changing filters is still not the answer. Thanks for your help.
@sagaman4785
@sagaman4785 Год назад
I changed ear tips to the JVC spiral dots and that really made a difference. Between the filter change and the ear tips, less bass and more high end! I could add another filter to tame the treble if it’s too much.
@AcidexMax
@AcidexMax Год назад
"According to the LETSHUOER representatives, they have fitted a new filter on the ear nozzle that has also improved the tuning of the S12 Pro" Gizaudio
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus Год назад
I dont use filters. Naked driver hitting ear.
@AcidexMax
@AcidexMax Год назад
@@MichaelBruceShortbus I was just pointing out what's supposedly new on the S12 Pro, besides the cable and the color
@paulosilva8200
@paulosilva8200 Год назад
Long time man.
@elyad67
@elyad67 Год назад
That's a great demonstration might have to do this mod aswell, because I find it hard to get a good equalizer for android that has 30 bands, I know poweramp exists but it never seemed to work with my devices, seems it requires root. There are a few good 10 band EQs but they are definitely not sufficient or accurate enough
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus Год назад
Poweramp doesnt require root man. The mod is acoustic and requires nothing. :D
@lain2236ad
@lain2236ad Год назад
wavelet is good, has full parametric eq
@toxic1428
@toxic1428 Год назад
God
@paulosilva8200
@paulosilva8200 2 года назад
About time to see you again. Lol.. I do the same as you do .apart from that nozzle rim. Where you got that from?
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus 2 года назад
Dampers: www.aliexpress.com/item/3256803866166130.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.78dc3084Z1lbYm&algo_pvid=d1c8e613-db68-492e-ad25-690e6c6404da&algo_exp_id=d1c8e613-db68-492e-ad25-690e6c6404da-8&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000027871670027%22%7D&pdp_npi=2%40dis%21USD%21%214.53%21%21%21%21%21%402101e9d316593776781696730e8ee5%2112000027871670027%21sea
@mucklechumps
@mucklechumps Год назад
Would you consider doing this mod for people (me) if I sent you a pair? Happy to pay a premium for your magic
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus Год назад
yup. Hit me up.
@tirogaiden
@tirogaiden 2 года назад
Would love to see a video like that about trn Kirin u.u
@MK-ro7ee
@MK-ro7ee Год назад
Will this compete with iems like blessing 2?
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus Год назад
I find it actually a level up from B2
@andrejgarbar7180
@andrejgarbar7180 Год назад
That is awesome man, did you try filters with higher or lower density, what were the results?
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus Год назад
Absolutely, the changes are drastic and not like you get more bass or less, you get an entirely different curve.
@andrejgarbar7180
@andrejgarbar7180 Год назад
@@MichaelBruceShortbus yes, did experience it, didn't have those filter so put two Tanchijim filter on each side, did the trick.
@andrejgarbar7180
@andrejgarbar7180 Год назад
@@MichaelBruceShortbus so the rule of thumb the denser the filter the lesser low end and sound signature becomes brighter? Guess still need to get those filters, I do like more extended treble, I kind of was ok with original sound signature, just didn't like that graininess and occassional shrillness, just wanted to smooth it out a bit, overdone it kinda, got it too smooth. So it seems I need to go for higher density filters?
@SlumptyDumpty
@SlumptyDumpty 4 месяца назад
​@@andrejgarbar7180 according to the product details on Ali Express for these filters it ​says "increases low frequency, reduces harsh sound and balances high frequency. The greater the density, the greater the impact." Are you still tinkering with your s12 or did you land on a final mod? I have some ideas I'd like to discuss if you're open to chatting.
@c4monkey
@c4monkey 2 года назад
And I had just returned mine. The timing. I liked the s12 a lot. Got those and the olina and as much as I liked the olina, I feel the s12 were just technically better and the lean towards the treble didn't bother me. I was mainly looking for something close to my eq'd beryer 880 600ohm. I ended up staying with my Nanna 2 pro. On the Nanna, foam tips give it a warmer looser tube like sound, and with silicone I get the detail. I also eq that sometimes to add 2-3db to 100hz with a low shelf filter and 4-5 at 20hz when I'm feeling bass head. If I end up selling those for a decent price might try the s12 again
@andrejgarbar7180
@andrejgarbar7180 Год назад
Be cautious guys, there is some variation in production, my unit has its sockets on one level with the body so I am not able to do that trick with the screwdriver to open it and I poked the vents first and thinking now how to open it without damaging it to much visually got nebula gray version which is coated, so first make sure that you can open it first only then poke the vents, otherwise it might be a problem, sure we need to take in the account that it is a DIY project and anything can happen to the IEM, so don't expect that everything will go smoothly and it will look like new. Did insert those rubber filters in the oppenings and poked vents, everything seems working, got a smoother sound now the main challenge to open those shells without doing to much of damage.
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus Год назад
Yeah that happened to the pair I just modified, a 250 or 300 damper on the front vent will fix the problem.
@haalogen1917
@haalogen1917 Год назад
What would happen if you do only poking?
@andrejgarbar7180
@andrejgarbar7180 Год назад
@@haalogen1917 I wouldn't do that actually, it gets the bass reduced, to get it back you need to stick dampers on venting holes, I even took the drivers out of the shells to see everything closer, what you are poking is the same damper which you later stick on venting hole, so it is counterproductive you make a hole in the inner damper just to stick other damper outside to get sort of same results, of course it was a try and error for Bruce so it is alright. So if you would do only poking you would lose your bass impact and nothing more, the best results achieved when put something in the nozzle and change damper on the driver, at least try the nozzle trick it should reduce that peakiness, you can always go back to stock but if you will poke those inner dampers, there is no way to go back unless you want to take the drivers out to replace the dampers which were poked which is risky cause you can damage the drivers. Once or twice I thought I killed my IEM but in the end I got pretty nice results, used 550 dampers actually.
@haalogen1917
@haalogen1917 Год назад
@@andrejgarbar7180 well I was stupid enough to poke my new pair of shouers, because on the video he said it will bring more sub bass. Now I am having less bass. I've just ordered new dampers, but I'm afraid I'll ruin iems trying to open the shell
@andrejgarbar7180
@andrejgarbar7180 Год назад
@@haalogen1917 Don't remember him saying that about the sub bass, he said poking will bring a better staging. I guess you had first to accept that this is an experiment and some damage might happen. If you are worried then just leave it as it is and stick dampers on venting holes, it will bring bass back.
@sovac9107
@sovac9107 Год назад
Will the s12 pro be based on this?
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus Год назад
No but it will have a ton more bass.
@kirankuttan
@kirankuttan 2 года назад
Hi! Does this get better results than eq?
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus 2 года назад
I'd say maybe not but the amount of EQing you need to get to this is a lot. I think I did 20 PEQ bands!
@kirankuttan
@kirankuttan 2 года назад
@@MichaelBruceShortbus thank you for your response! On one of your older videos I found a spreadsheet with all your impressions about the iems. But its not updated with the latest stuff. Do you have an updated sheet? Thanks in advance!
@Wingedmagician
@Wingedmagician 2 года назад
Zeos just did a colab. Dude you need to send some emails and use your connections. Id love to buy your set. Olina/O2 or S12 variants especially.
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus 2 года назад
I know.. I know. I've chatted with Letshuoer and the answer is probably not. Im going to have to buy and mod sets myself.
@Wingedmagician
@Wingedmagician 2 года назад
@@MichaelBruceShortbus I’m naive lol
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus 2 года назад
@@Wingedmagician nah man pure love from me.. i want this to happen!
@jaygopinath1694
@jaygopinath1694 Год назад
😅 opinions are funny to i loved there sound with a bit of eq
@randynguyen6402
@randynguyen6402 7 месяцев назад
Would you recommend this mod on the s12 pros?
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus 7 месяцев назад
Sure.
@TareqASamra
@TareqASamra 2 года назад
The late treble peak looks like it will lbe emphasized more though. Seeing as the planar driver is just a standalone enclosed driver, the casing cha,ber does nothing...,.so I guess there is no solution for that peak.
@blobeyeordie
@blobeyeordie 2 года назад
Fortunately however, these do VERY well with EQ(most planars in my experience do). I dont know if this an inherent perk to planar drivers in general, but the S12 in particular is extremely forgiving when EQing down high spots or boosting others without distorting, far more than others Ive found.
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus 2 года назад
Id say the 8k peak is half the coupler and half the IEM. For the most part you won't hear it with actual music. Having said that, push 8k down with a PEQ -6db, and Q of 6-8.
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus 2 года назад
So far I haven't worked out how to kill that damn peak. But for the most part it's not an issue.
@ZeusPropofol
@ZeusPropofol Год назад
@@MichaelBruceShortbus I am using Ts-500 Comply foam tips, and the 8k peak is significantly less
@lucaslopes5863
@lucaslopes5863 Год назад
can i do this mod on the s12 pro too?
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus Год назад
I think so yes, but this mod is highly hard and good luck.
@indio5099
@indio5099 Год назад
is it open sounding like there's a lot of air or is it dark like the graph is showing
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus Год назад
Its wide open. AS extended as a set ever gets.
@sand9577
@sand9577 8 месяцев назад
Is the vent poking reversible?
@princeajaz9167
@princeajaz9167 8 месяцев назад
Do you suggest same mod for S12 pro?
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus 8 месяцев назад
This mod has been surpassed. But Yes, try it..
@princeajaz9167
@princeajaz9167 8 месяцев назад
@@MichaelBruceShortbus what mod do you suggest then.
@asabristol
@asabristol Год назад
Has anyone tried this with s12 pro’s?
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus Год назад
Yep, they are a hair better than stock due to a small bit of foam in the bore.
@amanieux
@amanieux 2 года назад
Can we get the same result with EQ ?
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus 2 года назад
I think so yeah, but it requires a mother of PEQ bands, like 15-20
@amanieux
@amanieux Год назад
If not too much work for you please share your equ settings as opening the item is a bit scary
@elemental3756
@elemental3756 Год назад
Bump
@jon7677
@jon7677 Год назад
How does the mod affect the soundstage?
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus Год назад
Massively, stage goes boom.
@jon7677
@jon7677 Год назад
@@MichaelBruceShortbus OK, "boom" as in it widens it?
@carminedesanto6746
@carminedesanto6746 2 года назад
Great ..can you do a miracle on the Dioko 😳
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus 2 года назад
Im focused on the S12 because it's 14.8mm. BIG boy driver.
@carminedesanto6746
@carminedesanto6746 2 года назад
@@MichaelBruceShortbus good, better for your sanity ..whatever’s left after being in this hobby 😋
@Astralysis
@Astralysis Год назад
So you're not using foam with this mod anymore?
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus Год назад
S12 never had foam. That is my Unknown Soldier mod for the Olina.
@Astralysis
@Astralysis Год назад
@@MichaelBruceShortbus I'm referring to this video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1qgXKHjwefc.html you even linked the foam to use in the description
@matildaqueen5343
@matildaqueen5343 Год назад
My experience looking for best sound I prefer with s 12 .. that is deep bass with mids and open trouble with no fatigue… and it seems i achieved that … now my s 12 is sound very different then it was at the beginning.. the method that this video used.. i used even for HBB mele.. and blow my mind and i made mistake that i poked the driver, then i lost that sound …. Now i achieved that with s12 with much much better technicalities.. i am so happy now .. every time I listen song with this amazed me how many instruments being used in the songs … that’s right … here the thing use copper cable doesn’t have to spend much use xinhs cable 8 core pure copper cable from ali express cost you 12$ ( copper cable gives you bass pronounce) then use tips soft one gray color, cut it to best fit, (don’t have to spend on other tips that will cost you 25$ noooo)… so use tips that comes with s 12, fit in to nozzle hole( what it does ? It cuts the shouty trouble and upper mids still there is upper mids and trouble enough to give energy to vocal and shines new ones (by the way i used many tips and only this tips give me best sound like bass pronounce with airy trouble) ..also best image that iem have has small nozzle like sennheiner , etymotic and expensive iem use tubes ) and then make vent hole little 1/3 size big ( it gives driver breath properly so doesn’t feels driver is not breathing properly to give you full sound. (Actually you can feel it .. driver having issue with breathing.) this will improve even the image of songs and you will notice so many instruments being heard … i am sharing coz It doesn’t make sense you have to spend to hear better … find your preferred tune and enjoy your music like i am doing now with s12… when I bought this didn’t like the sound at all actually found that HBB mele had better sound then this because I achieved on mele only it had big stage , then as i said I ruined that with poking driver.. while thinking can i make it better… hope my experience will help you to have better music experience….
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus Год назад
Awesome bro! Im glad you understand just how good this IEM driver is. Glad you did the retuning!
@hariramv7764
@hariramv7764 2 года назад
Hi Michael long time......Seems bit complicated may be doable once i start....i dont have 3.0 400 filter doea olina stock filter or tanya filter is ok.
@MichaelBruceTaos
@MichaelBruceTaos 2 года назад
I can't say, you would have to get that exact damper for the back of the driver.. The olina or tanya might work, but I just don't know.
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus Год назад
yeah its not the easiest mod, is what it is
@jaygopinath1694
@jaygopinath1694 Год назад
This seems likely you'll damage your driver trying to do this try it tat you own risk😅
@st200ol
@st200ol 2 года назад
If you really don't like it so much that you basically have to redesign it, why not just buy something else in the first place. :-)
@MichaelBruceShortbus
@MichaelBruceShortbus 2 года назад
Because I can actually tune things and also, this is the largest planar driver on the market at 14.8mm. It has a ton of magic in it but needed some help imo.
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