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Lexus GS 250 2012 - acceleration 0-... not enough km/h 

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New Lexus GS is extremely good car in the terms of quality, luxury and refinement. Its basic 2,5 liter V6 engine is not a problem at all, but most of its dynamics and comfort is spoiled by extremely "long" gears of its automatic transmission. Watch how it fails to reach its top speed for many kilometers and how the car is even slowing down when you try to hold higher speed on 6th gear. And it is not only question of dynamics, these gears spoil the comfort either - the transmission shifts down to 3rd gear when you are just cruising around 90 km/h on 6th gear. What an absurd fail for such good car...
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@felixlaupc
@felixlaupc 3 года назад
Electronically controlled top speed, genius!
@user-vb7vv9hb7j
@user-vb7vv9hb7j 11 лет назад
i own this lexus and it is electronically limited at 228km/h
@razagilani
@razagilani 3 года назад
I have a GS250 and the high gearing is not an issue at all. It is plenty fast enough and gives economy very close to a hybrid. They have now cancelled the GS line and now the ES is your only option. This means we're stuck with FWD in the future and in the UK at least, a dull hybrid powertrain.
@abdulrhmanalzahrani6056
@abdulrhmanalzahrani6056 2 года назад
How about mpg per city! Good or bad
@Kacicka999
@Kacicka999 9 лет назад
this isnt racing car...if you want performance buy bigger engine..this is about luxury and comfort and it does it well. Those gears are there for regular efficient driving...
@chekpoint0899
@chekpoint0899 3 года назад
bigger engine has same shit, if we both talking about 3.5. speed limiter
@adamw2911
@adamw2911 5 лет назад
The GS250 is a rock solid reliable cruiser. Its simply not designed to be ragged about at over 130mph. Saying that though, it could handle being pushed hard long after your average Audi or BMW had clapped out due to being pushed.
@142414244
@142414244 11 лет назад
still going to buy it : )
@losteden
@losteden 10 лет назад
the 6 gear is overdrive! cruise control like for less rpm and fuel economy in freeway
@gentle285
@gentle285 11 лет назад
I want it anyway! :) Very nice video!
@Krzych092
@Krzych092 9 лет назад
At what RPM is rev limiter? Did you try to accelerate on 4th gear to 7.000 RPM (or rev limiter wherever it is)? Maybe therefore shifting up to 5th would happen more power (higher revs) on 5th gear so more speed you would be able to gain?
@superchargedturbo
@superchargedturbo 11 лет назад
it makes a weird sound when going into 5th, maybe there is something wrong with the torque converter?
@cypv12
@cypv12 11 лет назад
I think it's got the gear ratios from the gs 350 sold in the US,the people at lexus probably didn't change it for the smaller engine.Anyway is top speed really that important?
@309fa2
@309fa2 4 года назад
Electronic speed limit okay? What's the problem with you?
@omranalbalushi9200
@omranalbalushi9200 8 лет назад
It is 2.5 litre with a heavy body what did you expect try gs 350 or gsf v8 you will know the difference
@GSB39
@GSB39 3 года назад
Good reply bro
@4039byrne
@4039byrne 6 лет назад
How often are you going to go 130mph anyway? It got to 120mph with ease.
@tenti1524
@tenti1524 7 лет назад
I agree , the zf 8 speed box would if been great in this car ,
@MaMahmod
@MaMahmod 10 лет назад
to much dump ppl here talking shit!!!! this is a 2.17 ton car with a small 2.5L engine with 202 hp and 6th gear is overdrive......if you want speed and performance get the 3.5L it goes up to 260km/h (160mi/h)
@FrederickGFX
@FrederickGFX 7 лет назад
This engine may be slow, but it certainly sounds great. Maybe even better than the 3.5.
@kolrobi
@kolrobi 11 лет назад
its a heavy car and not meant to be fast with the 206hp V6 think!!! if you want better performance try the 450h
@georgipopov8989
@georgipopov8989 3 года назад
It is quite light for a car this big actually. The 450h is a lot faster but almost 200kg heavier which is would be obvious if u compare the 250 and 450h handlingwise
@anandnainar3590
@anandnainar3590 8 лет назад
This carmaker has been around since God knows when and their mother company (Toyota) is the largest carmaker in the world. I'm sure they know what they're doing and have reasons behind it. I believe the long gears are set up for fuel economy and refinement with the best compromise in speed. I'm sure they have the knowhow to make fast and exciting cars (RS200, Celica, Sprinter, Soarer, Supra, Chaser, IS-F, LFA, etc). Ultimate speed is probably never the aim in the GS250. They have the GS350, GS450h for the more demanding (and financially able) ones. Nobody in their right mind buys a 2.5L V6 sports "biased" sedan that weights round 1.7 tonnes and complaints about its 0-100 in 8 seconds time and 220 km/h top speed. I bet Lexus didn't see that coming. With that said, those acceleration and top speed are not bad; and it would probably help to have a closer 2, 3, 4, and 5th gear with a 6th over drive. But then again, they probably know what they are doing...
@clover7359
@clover7359 10 лет назад
I agree with you about the gear ratios. The previous generation's five speed auto was much better in that regard.
@utubecomment21
@utubecomment21 9 лет назад
Yes, 'cause all of us drive at a constant 152mph on a regular basis don't we. What a pointless video!
@Comycboy06
@Comycboy06 10 лет назад
This one has KM Limiter!!
@kennyurdanofuall534
@kennyurdanofuall534 3 года назад
is it not just a limiter?
@mooauto2388
@mooauto2388 2 года назад
is this reliable what things failed ?
@georgipopov8989
@georgipopov8989 9 лет назад
It's a shame it has 2 gears overdrive... and tops out at 4th gear. I am a Lexus fan but admit that sometimes Lexus and Toyota does weird things, such as putting this transmission that would probably suit not a 2.5 v6 but a 4.5 V8 ... And they just had to put their eight speed auto into the car ...
@georgipopov8989
@georgipopov8989 9 лет назад
Even the GS 350 has difficulties reaching more than 245 kmh... It's a hell of a transmission
@Dragy.
@Dragy. 8 лет назад
+Georgi Popov you are right I have GS350 2013 and when it changes to 5th gear you feel the car become too slow not like the previous model because before I had GS430 2008 and I can reach 260+ but with new one you can race only to 4th gear
@julanda223ify
@julanda223ify 7 лет назад
Gs350 F Sport because they are speed limited at 245 ....even in down hill you will notice that it can't reach 250
@georgipopov8989
@georgipopov8989 3 года назад
​@@Dragy. It all would be fine if 5th gear has closer ratio to 4th , not 5th to 6th. That step between 4th and 5th is huuuuge.
@jgh548
@jgh548 4 года назад
Sounds nice though.
@u4ig
@u4ig 8 лет назад
you may try shorter 4.1 diff . stock is 3.9.
@TheMuzikall
@TheMuzikall 4 года назад
The car hits it's Max speed and kicks into Overdrive . Same thing happens in 6speed in a Manual transmission..Revs drop when you hit 6th gear...
@MitchelvdB
@MitchelvdB 10 лет назад
The problem with this car probably is that the real power is in the high range of rpm and the gearbox doesn't allow it to rev that much at high speed. The ZF-8 speed with close ratio gears would do this car good.
@clover7359
@clover7359 10 лет назад
Lexus has their own eight speed auto (one better than from ZF) and you're exactly right.
@stam1ska
@stam1ska 9 лет назад
Mitchel van den Berge almost every car has max power in the high range
@MitchelvdB
@MitchelvdB 9 лет назад
What i mean is, when it shifts into higher gear the engine falls out of it's powerband. You can fix this friend of mine has an IS 250 and he has done an ECU remap. It only adds around 10 hp but it won't lose it's power when redlining in higher gears.
@nnr3
@nnr3 8 лет назад
@ExactlyPrecisely How is it better than the ZF's 8 speed?
@Kenik1991
@Kenik1991 11 лет назад
moje anglictina neni na takove urovni abych tomu rozumnel takze co je s tou prevodovkou?
@Matejxx3
@Matejxx3 11 лет назад
I can imagine that this could be an issue in Germany for example, where is lot of highways without speed limit. So Germans (big market for Lexus) can prefer E Klasse or A6 over this GS...
@Twixx32
@Twixx32 10 лет назад
Maybe it's an electronic speed limiter?
@marceldinozzo9262
@marceldinozzo9262 4 года назад
100%
@andrecarrato6359
@andrecarrato6359 10 лет назад
It's a pity this car can't get a extreme accelaration. Otherwise, it's real use is focused towards comfort, and this car absolutely offer it!
@mr13377
@mr13377 11 лет назад
Clearly made for cruising.
@akmasn9429
@akmasn9429 3 года назад
Try another wind direction 😏
@vighneshramesh2569
@vighneshramesh2569 8 лет назад
Atleast this is not like the new Lexus Gs450h with the CVT. This has proper gears!
@RicardasV
@RicardasV 3 года назад
Did you even tried GS450? Fast as fuck with the same fuel consumption. Once you would test that you would change your mind.
@finnmd.4208
@finnmd.4208 4 года назад
Cool car because it is rare in germany
@fylhtq10
@fylhtq10 2 года назад
my gs300 2007y/ 4grfse DIFFERENTIAL, REAR 3.7 8.5 sec to 100
@phil8683
@phil8683 5 лет назад
Hello. So I calculated - on 5th gear it maxes out with 253 Nm @ 4800 rpm so it's spitting out 173 HP. Where's your 209 HP, Lexus?
@MarkVinewood
@MarkVinewood 4 года назад
What point are you trying to make here? That this engine does not develop 209hp? If you know how power is calculated and it appears you do, you should know that it is the product of engine speed and torque, hence peak power does not have to be where peak torque is. 4GR-FSE has peak power at 6400 rpm.
@phil8683
@phil8683 4 года назад
@@MarkVinewood The point I am trying to make is that there is no way to leverage it's engine power to reach adequate top speed because of it's gear ratios. At the top speed with this gearbox setup on fifth gear - as you can see on the video - it's almost precisely at it's peak torque data point where it spits out 173 horsepower. Common practice among manufacturers however is to choose gear ratio of the predicted top speed so engine revs are between peak torque and peak power. No matter how many overdrive gears one chooses to have, the one for top speed (not limited, actual) should give much closer to engine rated power output. Certainly not sit on peak torque output.
@MarkVinewood
@MarkVinewood 4 года назад
@@phil8683 This comment makes much more sense than your first one, fair enough. Whether the top speed is adequate or not is debatable though I guess. You are looking at a base level engine for a nearly two ton car (which also is not designed to be a track monster or a 300km/h+ autobahn killer).
@phil8683
@phil8683 4 года назад
@@MarkVinewood It is heavy vehicle. However mass of the car doesn't directly imply it's top speed. On incline it will decrease top speed and on decline it will actually increase. Having that in mind - there is a car like Mazda 3 which tops out at 220 km/h having 165 hp rated output. There is no question that vehicle's top speed is important thing even on so called comfortable cars. Why is that? Because of emergencies that simply happen in a life of a car.
@MarkVinewood
@MarkVinewood 4 года назад
@@phil8683 Because everybody drives on autobahn all the time, ESPECIALLY when emergencies happen. I get it.
@Comycboy06
@Comycboy06 10 лет назад
At 5k revs!
@BFKGintaras
@BFKGintaras 4 года назад
I think it's limited I'm sure it's limited 99%
@razagilani
@razagilani 2 года назад
Driven gently 27mpg and on the highway 40mpg
@2011RCT
@2011RCT 3 года назад
Why
@ptoncu
@ptoncu 11 лет назад
ma velmi dlhe prevody, hlavne 5ku a 6ku pre taky motor, a preto od tachometrovych 220 nevie na 5ke ani 6ke zrychlit a dokonca aby zrychlil zo 190, musel podradit az do 4, a ked bola 4ka na maxime, pri 5ke to opat nezrychlovalo. Mozno by to zuvlyadol silnejsi motor
@yr4yr4yr4
@yr4yr4yr4 11 лет назад
sad
@tomsolo9360
@tomsolo9360 8 лет назад
unsure what petrol you tank, I got GS250 past 3 years and accelerates better however I have assumption that 6th gear is rather for the economy than for the acceleration.
@DenisAlexanderr
@DenisAlexanderr 4 года назад
i drive my one 235 km/h easy and its go more try change oil and check engine
@BaxaLexusGS
@BaxaLexusGS 5 лет назад
Well, that’s ok for mid-size sedan with 200 horse power.. GS 350 would do that much better.
@Trades46
@Trades46 8 лет назад
That's why you go for the GS350 or GS450h. Nothing against the 2.5 V6 but that motor is short on torque and power yet it only returns average MPG for such a small powerplant.
@USAFmedtech
@USAFmedtech 11 лет назад
6th is just an overdrive duhhh
@Comycboy06
@Comycboy06 10 лет назад
My GS300 goes up to 255 km/h
@georgipopov8989
@georgipopov8989 9 лет назад
I still can't get it... why Lexus doesn't use this engine anymore
@skiptaker
@skiptaker 8 лет назад
GS 250 has small engine compared with GS 350!!!!
@Rahdjeev
@Rahdjeev 11 лет назад
Weird, my dad's 1998 GS300 does 255 on topspeed, in fitfh gear.
@awesomusmaximus3766
@awesomusmaximus3766 5 месяцев назад
Not ennogh torque did well though
@gaba-gool2129
@gaba-gool2129 3 года назад
my accord euro cl9 has even longer gears :))
@calibraaa1
@calibraaa1 3 года назад
Yes, yes. 200 km/h = 4100 rpm in 5th gear. (highest gear) - for the Top speed, should be driven in 4th gear manually. (230-240km/h)
@airtouch01
@airtouch01 11 лет назад
Next tim try the GS350 ;) Faster than the shitty and ugly 535i
@emiliospowerballer1441
@emiliospowerballer1441 3 года назад
lexus cars were designed and built to be comfort cruising cars, not racing cars. if you want a fast car, get a benz, or a lexus lfa or a gsf. any other lexus is no different than this, even their top speed isnt any respectable by any means
@andrzejbudzynski9237
@andrzejbudzynski9237 5 лет назад
My Auris 2.0 d4d can do more... 210km/h with no problem....
@RicardasV
@RicardasV 3 года назад
Yes your Auris is way lighter. Also it would ride like crap comparing to this Lexus.
@andrzejbudzynski9237
@andrzejbudzynski9237 3 года назад
@@RicardasV i bought new lexus es300h.
@RicardasV
@RicardasV 3 года назад
@@andrzejbudzynski9237 Good choice, Andrzej!
@Deming91
@Deming91 8 лет назад
The gear ratio between the 4th and 5th gear seems too far apart, and at 220 km/h (5000 Rpm), the revs is too low for the engine to sustain its speed, considering it is a 2.5 liter V6. The transmission is not meant for this engine, and perhaps for the 4th, 5th and 6th gear, the gear ratio should be closer to each other, to allow for optimal revs which can help maintain speed, e.g. at least 5800 Rpm at 220 Km/h on 5th gear. The engine appears to be struggling to build speed once the 4th gear is reached. Even on the GS350 which could be using a similar transmission setup, the acceleration is pretty slow once 4th gear is reached, which could mean the gear ratio is a little too long, but the performance is definitely better on the 3.0 liter V6 engine of the GS350 due to greater torque: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-R-yXPT-Gc2Y.html
@user-qu6cx3rl8y
@user-qu6cx3rl8y 7 лет назад
350の音がする
@tonypasby8287
@tonypasby8287 4 года назад
What a pointless video, this isn't a "race" spec GS, this is a daily motorway grinder to get you from A to B in comfort and relaxation. If you want a "race" spec GS, buy a GSF, that's the Performance version.
@Wajchenau
@Wajchenau 11 лет назад
this engine acts like a woman- it wants and at the same time it doesn't
@K1BiHBomb
@K1BiHBomb 11 лет назад
2.5 vs 3.0 .... your logic is no where to be found
@StreetFlamer33
@StreetFlamer33 10 лет назад
This is bullshit look at rpm its 5 for top speed you must beat the car ass to 7 or 8
@jerry6711
@jerry6711 9 лет назад
It's time to switch to European or American cars in such a case.
@user-oq3lv6lv7x
@user-oq3lv6lv7x 5 лет назад
jerry6711 or get the gs350
@TheEryk03
@TheEryk03 11 лет назад
Jetta 1.6 goes better.
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