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Lexus GS F vs Vauxhall VXR8: mighty V8 saloon track battle 

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Road test editor James Disdale brings together the new Lexus GS F and the Vauxhall VXR8 for an old-school V8 muscle car stand-off.
But which is quicker around a track? The Japanese barnstormer or the Aussie brute?
Lexus GS F review: aex.ae/1Jc1wsL
Vauxhall VXR8 review: aex.ae/1JB0A1k

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@reko3103
@reko3103 8 лет назад
If you factor in the development budget of the Holden vs the Lexus ... I think the team down under did a pretty good job with the resources they had...
@theylive2749
@theylive2749 3 года назад
You mean using GM’s development budget and getting the parts from other GM parts bins? Lol. It’s not a ground up car.
@BatMan-xr8gg
@BatMan-xr8gg 3 года назад
@@theylive2749 The only bit from GM America is the Engine. Everything else is made in Australia. That is why Australia exported them to America s the Pontiacs and then the Chevy SS. So tried of people like you who know nothing trying to be smart. The whole car was designed and built in Australia.
@mark3788
@mark3788 3 года назад
@@BatMan-xr8gg yeah they think the Ford Barra is all Australian car yet they never mention the ZF box is from BMW not Ford.
@BatMan-xr8gg
@BatMan-xr8gg 3 года назад
@@mark3788 Yeah, but the ZF box was cheaper than developing one. And the Barra engine was fully built in Australia. Holden did the same by using Chev engines instead of developing the locally made 5ltr.
@mark3788
@mark3788 3 года назад
@@BatMan-xr8gg exactly 👍 that’s why get so frustrated when people claim the Ford is an all Australian built and designed and Holden isn’t because of the LS, when in fact both companies use other parts. In my opinion they are both great Aussie cars and it’s sad they are no more.
@aerojohnw
@aerojohnw 8 лет назад
Aussie cars are much more raw and their price reflects this. It's a big country with a small population, but we deliver absolute top shelf bang for your $.
@hoonaticbloggs5402
@hoonaticbloggs5402 3 года назад
Thanks for my Hsv vt2 🇬🇧
@ramudithadesilva8547
@ramudithadesilva8547 3 года назад
the lexus sounds better tho, so sad they stopped with the holdens i miss them.
@MeaHeaR
@MeaHeaR Год назад
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@David645207
@David645207 8 лет назад
Dear auto express great review i agree the lexus may be the overall package as it should be at nearly double the price in australia. Please remember the hsv is not just a car with a lsd and an engine. Stage 2 magnetic ride is pure genius, nearly 400mm 6 piston v8 supercar developed brakes that stop in 33m from 100 similar to 458 ferrari better than e63 amg also, nearly 1g in lateral g is amazing for any car now days even if its not like a lotus in a slalom,torque vectoring is clever, proper cooling too. I just get tired of people saying aussie cars just have an engine, we deserve more praise:)
@catfirst2593
@catfirst2593 5 лет назад
Of course dear...but please tell us more about reliability.
@catfirst2593
@catfirst2593 5 лет назад
Of course dear...but please tell us more about reliability.
@nathanodwyer4747
@nathanodwyer4747 4 года назад
CAT First Lexus reliable???😂😂😂
@hsv8s
@hsv8s 4 года назад
@@catfirst2593 Have a look on my channel for reliability. All those hillclimbs/circuit racing and at 90000kms, I have still not had to replace the clutch even. Been through a lot of brake pads, but otherwise brilliant, not sure how a lexus would hold up...
@hsv8s
@hsv8s 4 года назад
Its also has the best lsd available, its actually a wavetrac, gm really did a brilliant job on the 9.9 diff.
@timmyotoole1
@timmyotoole1 8 лет назад
You keep talking about the GS F being a heavy car - it's lighter than an M5...
@mazin2892
@mazin2892 8 лет назад
+Flat Eric It probably feels heavier because of the lack of low end torque.
@augustortiz
@augustortiz 8 лет назад
So, being lighter than an m5 makes it light? It still weighs north of 1700kg, that way too much.
@Dgannt
@Dgannt 8 лет назад
+Augusto Ortiz And M5 has at least 100 hp more and god knows how much more torque.
@weedmastersr
@weedmastersr 8 лет назад
+Fast Er It doesn't. It's got the same horsepower.
@augustortiz
@augustortiz 8 лет назад
+Fast Er yeah, the m5 at least has the power to back that mass up, this 5.0 v8 is underpowered for this chassis.
@SuperLitherland
@SuperLitherland 8 лет назад
this guy is good .......we like him ...he can stay
@TosinSalisu
@TosinSalisu 8 лет назад
I really like this review. We need more alternative reviews like this
@Zygrene
@Zygrene 8 лет назад
+Tosin Salisu Agreed, this was a short, sweet, and to-the-point review that was still backed by a track test. Will use this as an example for my future videos on my channel.
@nizamahmed5073
@nizamahmed5073 8 лет назад
Range Rover vs Porsche Cayenne
@lambosrkwl
@lambosrkwl 8 лет назад
VXR8 is the best car sold in the UK, I wish they sold cheaper N/A versions though.
@tripsadelica
@tripsadelica 5 лет назад
You can blame GM US for that. They were always too scared to sell the standard model Holdens in the US and UK because they thought the cars would steal sales from other GM makes. Even in base trim (the Commodore "Evoke") with the 3L or 3.6 V6 the cars are formidable and capable family luxury cruisers. Pity that GM US has now killed the Holden factory. If they'd sold Commodores as you suggest the factory would still be going strong.
@joeweaver5712
@joeweaver5712 8 лет назад
Good review, I like this guy. More videos with this quality of reviewer and content please Auto Express!
@jupitersamjk
@jupitersamjk 8 лет назад
Great review auto express
@uruterus7849
@uruterus7849 7 лет назад
Great review!, everybody wants to see track times these days, and u delivered it!!
@RSZ-R34
@RSZ-R34 8 лет назад
he says the holden is over 900kg i think its a lot over like 1 tonne over 900kg lol
@mikejanson1939
@mikejanson1939 5 лет назад
Why didn’t u use the sports mode gear lever? Would have been better time.
@christopherwhitney2711
@christopherwhitney2711 3 года назад
Just remember this is an everyday Holden dumbed down. The track version is incomparable
@lucadawson397
@lucadawson397 8 лет назад
Hey how's it goingC This video is#nice invention sprout What's your opinion about this
@MrGutfeeling
@MrGutfeeling 3 года назад
Good review!
@DreamWorkDrive
@DreamWorkDrive 8 лет назад
Nice review. I would like to see more 0-60 tests being done though, to see what can be done in reality compared to claimed stats from manufacturers.
@mak450
@mak450 8 лет назад
I'm surprised the VXR8's exhaust is so hushed. I would have assumed it would sound like a monster coming to eat your family, even moreso than the ZL1 that that engine came out of.
@ScottZ370
@ScottZ370 8 лет назад
Guess its to stop putting off some more sensible (boring) potential customers and they know some people who want it loud will go get it made very loud
@alliancemad
@alliancemad 8 лет назад
+mak450 possibly it could have a exhaust valve open/close button closed.
@DerangedSloth555
@DerangedSloth555 8 лет назад
+mak450 Get rid of the factory exhaust, it'll sound much much better. Think these has a option for the Bi-modal exhaust.
@SgtGunny-gz5hg
@SgtGunny-gz5hg 8 лет назад
yeah I'm wondering if he had the bi modal exhaust open. cause this car comes with that option as standard. well in Australia it does anyway.
@15sixmedia
@15sixmedia 8 лет назад
I am not entirely sure if Vauxhall has the same thing going, but all HSV GTS models (same car) in Australia have a bi-modal exhaust which can be made way louder through a menu in the media interface.
@XBrandonLeeX765
@XBrandonLeeX765 8 лет назад
A good review indeed!
@michaelduong3852
@michaelduong3852 8 лет назад
i love both cars... huge fan of holden but also love lexus. But i think i would go for the hsv (vxr8) in manual because i just love driving manual over any automatic and even dual clutches...
@justmy2cents_
@justmy2cents_ 3 года назад
Now try the Bathurst edition VXR8 for some real thunder down under!!
@MrMustangrick
@MrMustangrick 5 лет назад
Fantastic realistic review. I agree, I bought the Lexus GS F here in the states. I love it, best car I have ever owned, and I have had modern Audis, Mercedes, and a Corvette Grand Sport. The Lexus is truly special, and makes me feel grateful that I own her.
@jameswillingmusic
@jameswillingmusic 8 лет назад
Fantastic review, i have had HSV's and currently an ISF. Love the muscle car HSV's, but would choose a GSF anyday of the week. Class, reliability, technology, comfort, with V8 fun!!
@sean70729
@sean70729 8 лет назад
I'll take cts-v it kills the gsf
@jameswillingmusic
@jameswillingmusic 8 лет назад
+Lt. wreck Yeah they are very impressive, cant get them in Aus though! Plus, still comes back to reliability and for my job, impressions of class. Personally i dont care, i prefer muscle cars, but such is life!
@tigerpjm
@tigerpjm 3 года назад
But you'd have to look at it every time you went for a drive. Lexus styling is atrocious. More lines than Maradona.
@sportsfanivosevic9885
@sportsfanivosevic9885 8 лет назад
While waiting for a new sports extractor to be fitted in my Nissan I noticed a skip bin full of new and complete exhaust systems, asked the manager what was wrong with them and he said nothing is wrong, they are the original exhaust from Holden V8 cars because owners replace them with aftermarket performance exhaust asap. It would be interesting to review both cars with performance exhaust systems but I have a suspicion the Lexus may already have a fine system and not benefit as much as the Holden. Totally agree with the conclusion to this road test though. Good review.
@bigboy9983
@bigboy9983 3 года назад
My grandfather would love this Lexus
@DavidLyon
@DavidLyon 5 лет назад
An Australian made Car beats Japans most respected Car Maker, that's an awesome result.
@6SLeGM
@6SLeGM 7 лет назад
The GS f does not come with a Torsen. It comes standard with a TVD and it even says so in the car! Still, I'm not surprised it completed the lap 1.5 seconds ahead of the RC F.
@j.s.t.n
@j.s.t.n 6 лет назад
Wait up. If you take the limiter of a Vauxhall VXR8, it can go 195 mph? Just wondering.
@kristianspencer1978
@kristianspencer1978 3 года назад
205 mph.
@Wittybruh
@Wittybruh 8 лет назад
the gts Would have been quicker if he left the esp on in track mode, the esp allows slip but still points you on the straight and narrow to put the power down. The Gts also has torque vectoring as standard btw.
@ScottZ370
@ScottZ370 8 лет назад
6:04 Over 900kg? Surely not...
@storck08
@storck08 8 лет назад
+S Miller He meant Nineteen hundred, but was obviously a bit surprised with the acceleration and made a mistake...
@ScottZ370
@ScottZ370 8 лет назад
***** Yeah I know haha it's fair enough and I guess they're not going to refilm it for a tiny mistake...which I guess is still true
@nicolasdujardin5691
@nicolasdujardin5691 8 лет назад
I think he meant it's 1900 kg's...:-p
@nikb6528
@nikb6528 8 лет назад
+S Miller you know what he meant to say. It's hard to drive properly fast and talk concentratedly.
@ScottZ370
@ScottZ370 8 лет назад
Yeah guess its hard to get sarcasm across in the comment section, 'Surely not...' was me doing a sarcastic comment lol
@hoonaticbloggs5402
@hoonaticbloggs5402 3 года назад
I’ll have the Hsv with manual box please
@myplaylissst
@myplaylissst 8 лет назад
what's about audi s6?
@2ndGen_HondaNSX-R
@2ndGen_HondaNSX-R 8 лет назад
both very very cool.
@roflcopterkklol
@roflcopterkklol 8 лет назад
I think the problem with that GTS is it was an Auto, Holdens autos are shit. should have been a 6 speed manual.
@tripsadelica
@tripsadelica 5 лет назад
You can get a manual model in Australia. Holden autos are just fine... Made by GM powertrain.
@tigerpjm
@tigerpjm 3 года назад
You've hit the nail of the one weak spot in the Holden. That said, it's pretty much only in the context of fanning around the track. The other 99.9% of the time the auto-box is actually a really nice thing.
@spinbaldak
@spinbaldak 8 лет назад
Great to see the Holden Commodore being sold over seas ..but alas GM closing them down R.I.P Holden
@Fishfingers232
@Fishfingers232 8 лет назад
The Lexus is way better equipped and is actually a premium/luxury car, unlike the re-badged Holden. Not hating on the Aussie, it's just that it's a poor comparison.
@zoltek7
@zoltek7 8 лет назад
+Fishfingers232 but 20k cheaper
@manofwar577
@manofwar577 6 лет назад
Fishfingers232 And 1sec quicker, thats an a lot on a racetrack, or the strip
@Ian-eg3gr
@Ian-eg3gr 8 лет назад
If Lexus really wanted to take on the germans they should have put the lfa v10 engine in this car and stunned the whole car market. It saddens me because you know there were probably atleast some engineers at Lexus that probably suggested this but were turned away. As a huge Lexus fan I am a little disappointed and wish they would have done more to take on those germans. :( great video :)
@PT111111
@PT111111 8 лет назад
+Ian Bugatti Emission law says no.
@IntensiveEdits
@IntensiveEdits 8 лет назад
plus it would have to be reworked the gs f is bigger, and weighs more then the lfa.. remeber 4 doors there could be a family in there or multiple please weighing it down even more, no matter the lfa will still be in my top 5 cars ( personal favs i guess )
@Ian-eg3gr
@Ian-eg3gr 8 лет назад
+Intensive +PT111111 Its not like Lexus have a shortage of cash Toyota, one of the most profitable care companies, could have given them some more money to play with and they could have engineered the v10 engine into a gs body. The current v8 is 5.0 liters and the v10 is 4.3 so theoretically it would fit under that hood just saying. :)
@IntensiveEdits
@IntensiveEdits 8 лет назад
+Ian Bugatti doesn't matter every company is its own, toyota also has scion.
@PT111111
@PT111111 8 лет назад
Ian Doesn't matter how much money they got. For that class of car, V10 will never pass the emission law and I don't think they want to cheat like VW. Plus it's a luxo sedan. Why would they want to put a high revving V10 in it?
@bluesky3694
@bluesky3694 8 лет назад
why don't both car start from 0 mph? why they have to be in speed to began the race?
@Habitashi
@Habitashi 8 лет назад
+Boss Bic good point!
@ouzomitsos
@ouzomitsos 8 лет назад
thats the thing when you have the money you wouldnt mind spending it on quality, but if you dont mind your door handles loosening and other minor manufacturing issues, you cant beat a holden, My uncles 08 Holden SS had a rusted out radiator in just under 6 years...after having holdens for over 20 years he know wants to move up to a Lexus!! Smart Man!!
@fast_eddie3441
@fast_eddie3441 8 лет назад
Please choose a different expletive to Mr Plato! 'fighter; is well used Other than that, good review
@brucelamberton8819
@brucelamberton8819 6 лет назад
Cheaper, more powerful and faster than the Lexus, and looks a LOT more fun too - the VXR8 is the clear winner. Plus in the hands of a more capable/aggressive driver, I bet it would lap even faster still.
@hoebywan
@hoebywan 8 лет назад
The Holden looking dated but perhaps even because of that much better looking that the fussy Lexus. For the money it has to be the Holden.
@v_alexiadis
@v_alexiadis 8 лет назад
The Lexus is obviously the better car but the Holden is such a special beast. It would be my choice with a manual gearbox.
@SgtGunny-gz5hg
@SgtGunny-gz5hg 8 лет назад
good news. you can buy it as a Manuel if you wish.
@15sixmedia
@15sixmedia 8 лет назад
+Sgt. Gunny sadly I could never afford one. I'd probably be able to go about as high as an SSV with the six speed. Which is not a bad thing. A four door family sedan with a 6.2 litre N/A V8 is still pretty impressive in my books.
@SgtGunny-gz5hg
@SgtGunny-gz5hg 8 лет назад
+15sixmedia my oath it is mate
@H0LDENSUX
@H0LDENSUX 6 лет назад
The fact that that the Commodore is no longer made while the Lexus still is running off the production line means spare parts for the Commodore won't be necessarily be cheaper than those found on the Lexus.
@strawboi
@strawboi 8 лет назад
6.2 v8+ super charge vs 5.0 v8. What do you expect?
@vlad1889
@vlad1889 8 лет назад
+Rong Q expected more than 1 second...especially of how loaded the gs f is.
@V8CHRGD
@V8CHRGD 8 лет назад
doesn't sound like much but 1 second over a relatively small track is more substantial then your making it out to be. Also, they are similar weight.
@siberiusllovota6158
@siberiusllovota6158 8 лет назад
So a comparison between a fancy Toyota and a true Australian muscle car? Let's put it this way. In the UK, no one is going to look twice at a Lexus, whereas everyone is going to look several times at the Holden going past.
@baseline4102
@baseline4102 8 лет назад
you are dreaming dude .. thats my first time that I hear about that holden thing .. and it's a shame 80hp more 300pft super charged 6.2L for 1 second a lap faster .. Im just wondering if lexus makes the gsf engine 5.5L N/A what will happen ??
@joytech23
@joytech23 8 лет назад
You're missing the point, this commodore is 10,000+ pounds cheaper. If it's winning in anything against a car that outprices it so significantly it's a win overall. Btw it doesn't matter if Lexus made a 5.5L engine, there's a new HSV GTS-R model already announced with 638HP and 819NM of torque.
@seanfenwick
@seanfenwick 7 лет назад
Funny that. I will take the Lexus everyday. Far more build quality and luxury. Both will last well and we have the Holden here as the Chev Lumina. My Lexus IS350 hammered my friends 6.2lumina day in and day out until he bolted a supercharger on and even then he only got a little bit on me. The 3.5 ltr Lexus had 233kw to the 6.2 ltr Chev's 280kw. How pitiful. Imagine the 5.0ltr IS-F with 375kw. Makes you wonder who has superior engineering.
@joytech23
@joytech23 7 лет назад
Well I know that's bullshit since there have been races between the 270kw SSV and Infiniti q70 (240kw) and the infiniti was destroyed pretty hard. (Infiniti is quicker than the IS350) So I know you're bullshitting, and I own a Lexus.
@avgass1
@avgass1 7 лет назад
joytech22 Actually, the published specs for the Lumina vs an early is350 have the is350 ahead and there are lots of examples of the is350 doing better than published numbers. I want to like Holden but they just don't seem to translate power into speed very well
@jponz85
@jponz85 7 лет назад
is the Vauxhall the chevy ss in america? I swear they almost look identical
@jponz85
@jponz85 7 лет назад
Chris. W really?
@jponz85
@jponz85 7 лет назад
Chris. W that's cool man I didn't know that thanks for the info
@lukeslocomotives8521
@lukeslocomotives8521 Год назад
The Chevy SS and this HSV GTS (Vauxhall VXR8 if you want to call it that) are based on the same chassis and platform structure of a Holden VF Commodore. The Chevy SS is however based on the Commodore SS-V Redline whereas the HSV GTS is a factory tuned version of the Commodore by Walkinshaw Performance.
@EvoPower2010
@EvoPower2010 8 лет назад
This Lexus is hot as fuck. If it's realiable as a Lexus should be, then it's just a win-win.
@12389h
@12389h 8 лет назад
+DAZ605 I'll be willing to bet it is bulletproof. Those engines have been running for 8 years now in the ISF. Haven't heard of an issue with one yet. Toyota is one manufacturer who knows to build V8s.
@EvoPower2010
@EvoPower2010 8 лет назад
***** Well I'd choose it over the Vauxhall for sure then. Even though I'm a big fan of the E63, I'd also consider this or the Infiniti. I just like those new gen of perfomance sedans from Japan :)
@12389h
@12389h 8 лет назад
DAZ605 I love the German sedans and they're definitely faster, but I don't think they can match Lexus for reliability. Also everybody and their dog has a M5, RS6 or E63. You probably won't see another GS F on the road. I wouldn't buy them new though, I'd wait for them to hit the used market. You'll get a bargain then.
@rts1161
@rts1161 6 лет назад
he almost hits the curb really hard at 2:46
@tripsadelica
@tripsadelica 3 года назад
"Classy looks" is a subjective comment. I think many people would say the Holden is better-looking than the Lexus. As to the handling...well, if you can actually drive you can control this car quite easily. The handling of all VF series Commodores is right up there with the finest cars in the world. Holden chassis engineers were world-renowned for their abilities. Sure, the Lexus has a more modern powerplant and more hi-tech goodies but if you want a car that can trounce most anything else on the road with ease... a car built tough to withstand outback conditions and not have to pay a huge amount of money as you would for the Lexus then it must be the Holden as first pick every time.
@adamscott2219
@adamscott2219 5 лет назад
Interesting comparison but if you are talking a track comparison and bang for your buck the “Vauxhall” (Holden) is the clear winner. These 2 cars are both built with a completely different philosophy however and appeal to two different types of buyers. Cars aren’t always about practicality but how they make you feel and I suspect if you are drawn to either one of these cars for their quite different attributes you would be happy with your purchase.
@Ben_Mayall
@Ben_Mayall 7 лет назад
He forgot to mention the Lexus RCF for the performance Lexus'
@1022gtv
@1022gtv 8 лет назад
5l V8 NA vs 6.2l V8 + SC Not fair.
@oldschoolracinggames5729
@oldschoolracinggames5729 8 лет назад
+1022gtv BMW fucked this american shit with 3.0 turbo.
@Avrelivs_Gold
@Avrelivs_Gold 8 лет назад
+Sergey Popov Lexus is Japanese, Holden is Australian. And everyone would take a V8 over v6 turbo for executive class.
@papaannefranku9693
@papaannefranku9693 8 лет назад
+Sergey Popov how? when the LSA makes a hundred more hp and a hundred more pound feet of torque
@christiann6350
@christiann6350 8 лет назад
+ZenZory Overload tires, cant get traction.
@papaannefranku9693
@papaannefranku9693 8 лет назад
Flying Bigfoot but its still more powerful than that bmw 3.0t
@PT111111
@PT111111 8 лет назад
For that Holden fans, enjoy it while you can because what the video failed to mention is that Holden will stop making cars by next year, so that VXR8 will become somewhat a collector's item.
@robisa09
@robisa09 8 лет назад
whole point of Lexus GSF is its NA. Cant compare it to a supercharged motor, different category.
@AdzSONLINE
@AdzSONLINE 8 лет назад
Much rather the VXR8. Would get the manual one they do though
@TechnoMonkeyFarm
@TechnoMonkeyFarm 8 лет назад
+AdzSONLINE Correct, comes in manual and is easily tuneable
@AdzSONLINE
@AdzSONLINE 8 лет назад
anyusernamesleftest Yeah saw an after marked exhaust with valve control so that would be a decent addition I suppose
@Avrelivs_Gold
@Avrelivs_Gold 8 лет назад
japanese V8 = win
@Thulebeez
@Thulebeez 8 лет назад
Its lively
@natnut2008
@natnut2008 8 лет назад
What about the GS-F vs the BMW M5? Almost certainly the Lexus would win.
@Xdev1lG00D
@Xdev1lG00D 8 лет назад
The vaxhaul reminds me of the Pontiac g8
@mrheyfuckoff1
@mrheyfuckoff1 7 лет назад
I'll take the GTS anyday of the week, although I'll take the sportswagon version thanks
@strawboi
@strawboi 8 лет назад
In Australia, Holden GTS is more expensive than gsf
@henrytoussaint7
@henrytoussaint7 7 лет назад
No it's not, The HSV GTS is $94k and the Lexus GS-F is $123k in AUD.
@kbling2946
@kbling2946 8 лет назад
Ok so old matey reviewing the cars didn't really talk about the technology in either cars. It sounds like you guys don't get all the features of our GTS in the Vauxhall version? The suspension has an extra setting, as well as the bi-modal exhaust, heads up, lane departure, collision avoidance, blind side, torque vectoring, automatic self parking as well as the standard heated seats etc.The GTS is around 1930kgs.
@H0LDENSUX
@H0LDENSUX 3 года назад
Look, to be fair to traditional naturally aspirated V8 Holdens, someone should drop that Lexus V8 in the 1990s Toyota Lexcen (in addition to parts from the HSV parts bin) and call it a day. The fact that 1990s Lexcen weighs only 1340 kg puts it on par with modern day V8 supercars.
@noordada2491
@noordada2491 8 лет назад
dont like sorry we need focus rs vs audi rs3 plz
@ayrtonatif572
@ayrtonatif572 8 лет назад
👍
@noordada2491
@noordada2491 8 лет назад
+Ayrton Atif yeahhhh
@oldschoolracinggames5729
@oldschoolracinggames5729 8 лет назад
+Noor Dada I'll answer you right now: focus is shit
@MyGoogi
@MyGoogi 8 лет назад
Long life Lexus.
@AlbionTarkhan
@AlbionTarkhan 3 года назад
RIP Holden 😢
@nikb6528
@nikb6528 8 лет назад
A second faster sadly does not make up for the difference in refinement, workmanship, reliability, comfort, technology in which the Lexus shines in comparison to a Vauxhall/Holden/Opel or whatever it's actually called.
@appelpower1
@appelpower1 8 лет назад
+Nik Brudar True, though thanks to the price difference, I think I'd rather have the bonkers VXR8. Mind you, I'd have an F-type R or an Alfa Giulia QV over either.
@nikb6528
@nikb6528 8 лет назад
appelpower1 I'd undoubtedly pick a Lexus out of these two, but the Giulia is indeed more sexy and 510hp sounds alluring!
@appelpower1
@appelpower1 8 лет назад
Nik Brudar Indeed, I can't wait for the Giulia. Sadly, it's been delayed. That's not a good sign.
@nikb6528
@nikb6528 8 лет назад
appelpower1​ the delay may sort some things out and prevent future recalls, so let's wait patiently. I was probing through our used car marketand saw some 159s in mint condition and low mileage for very attractive prices... I wonder why such a car with 200hp and in such condition is prices so relatively low ... As I've heard Alfa's reliability has improved lately, so it couldn't be that..
@appelpower1
@appelpower1 8 лет назад
Nik Brudar I sincerely hope it's just quality checks, not problems with capacity on Fiat's part. It's merely an image problem. Younger 159s (that includes the 1,75 turbo with 200 bhp, the one you mentioned) are quite reliable, but people don't trust them. As such, you can get a fast, young, well-equipped and pretty Alfa estate with low mileage for just 10 grand. It's great value, as long as you don't mind the relatively cramped back seats and relatively small boot.
@Toyota4Life
@Toyota4Life 8 лет назад
6.2 liter supercharged almost 600 hp to the Lexus natural aspirated 471 hp and its BARLEY a second faster ? Even with OVER 100 more HP it cant outrun the Lexus. Testament to great chassis development in the Lexus. Lexus GSF is the winner. Beautiful and well engineered sedan. High tech with Lexus Luxury with great performance. The Vauxhall saving grace is just a big engine where the Lexus is the COMPLETE package. " Lexus doesn't have much high performance history " Wrong Lexus has produced the ISF, LFA, RCF, now this GSF. Thats more then enough cars to show Lexus is serious about performance. Thats more high performance cars then Ininiti and Acura.
@Mrzeng1
@Mrzeng1 8 лет назад
Can't go wrong with lexus , too bad i own a kia..
@Toyota4Life
@Toyota4Life 8 лет назад
CarEnthusias Ber You cant. Lexus qualities are unbeatable.. now to their usual qualities they have high performance
@Mrzeng1
@Mrzeng1 8 лет назад
Love lexus
@thesulo12
@thesulo12 8 лет назад
+Toyota4Life this is holden were talking about here always were a BOAT ON WHEELS
@henrytoussaint7
@henrytoussaint7 8 лет назад
+Toyota4Life It did outrun the Lexus though?
@tapyoqyej
@tapyoqyej 8 лет назад
The Holden is dead in the water next year when GM stops manufacturing vehicles in Australia. The Holden Commodore was the best seller in Australia for many years but has been overtaken by the humble Toyota Corolla. I think Lexus will be around a little longer than Holden, and in any case I know which one of these two I would have.
@petercavellini3232
@petercavellini3232 6 лет назад
Different Animals entirely, once’s a sports Saloon the other is a posh Car than can go fast if you wan to, my money would go on the Holden....😎
@james64ibm
@james64ibm 8 лет назад
The Lexus engine runs so smooth, it sounds a bit artificial, like a video game V8. I think Lexus could have put a bit of barking in there ...
@lukemothug
@lukemothug 2 года назад
After market exhaust will easily do the trick.
@jonsamuel3454
@jonsamuel3454 3 года назад
You could tell which one is more fun to drive and so many things you can do for even more fun vxr8 leave the lex for the wife
@arthurzaremba3382
@arthurzaremba3382 8 лет назад
Lexus sports sedans, expensive as hell yet continuously beaten in speed/handling by AMGs, M5, CTS-V and now add a Holden HSV into the mix. Vauxhall VXR8 for the win, no competition.
@d1sturb3d119
@d1sturb3d119 5 лет назад
You do realize that Lexus NEVER benchmarked their cars against any other model. It was meant to deliver Lexus reliability while still be capable at a track. Tell me how many races you've won with an AMG, M5 or CTSV? Folks who drive these cars including myself daily them. I would rather have a reliable machine that never breaks but can be fun on track. To win races, I have a track car. Common sense.
@harrisonhunter7512
@harrisonhunter7512 5 лет назад
Value for money is the GTS.
@michaellivesey4354
@michaellivesey4354 4 года назад
Holden was drifting..should be 3 secs quicker
@RBFR01
@RBFR01 5 лет назад
I'll take a Holden any day or the most Luxury Lexus...
@90boiler
@90boiler 6 лет назад
The best fast sedan. Looks perfect, sounds the best of all. Will outlast Germans too.
@ryota5220
@ryota5220 8 лет назад
Lexus has changed
@ganoostermoppy4325
@ganoostermoppy4325 8 лет назад
50k + for that corsa they should be put before the European court for robbery.
@georgipopov8989
@georgipopov8989 8 лет назад
The GS F has Torque-vectoring diff, not torsen... what a beginner
@fredoes
@fredoes 3 года назад
It's not the diff, it's the brakes that do the torque vectoring
@georgipopov8989
@georgipopov8989 3 года назад
@@fredoes In vehicles with open diff, the brakes do the vectoring, with a torque vectoring diff - it is the diff that does the vectoring!
@Theagchm
@Theagchm 8 лет назад
A supercharger that doesn't kick in till 3000rpm??!!! Every and any turbo will beat that...so why supercharge it rather than strap a turbo to it? So all the extra power, massively bigger engine and torque led to a 1 second difference, perhaps Holden should have stuck to a turbo as they don't seem to know what a supercharger is!
@EdgiePower
@EdgiePower 2 года назад
Holden made a point of not using turbos ever since they used six cylinder Nissan engines in the 80s with turbo that could beat their stock V8 models. Think it hurt the pride. Ever since then supercharger only, even when Ford was dominating six cylinder performance models with turbo, Holden still only supercharged.
@Pandamasque
@Pandamasque 8 лет назад
"Lexus is low-key"... WHAT? There's no curreny produciton Lexus model that is anything like low-key!
@idworkhard
@idworkhard 8 лет назад
I take Holden any time over Lexus. fewer things to go wrong on it.
@ponygt6629
@ponygt6629 8 лет назад
OHV SC vs DOHC
@fobsters1
@fobsters1 4 года назад
It's still a Toyota...lolz...with a V8...I may go there then...
@MrRoosters75
@MrRoosters75 8 лет назад
What a cop out , not as charismatic , cheaper and quicker.
@sean70729
@sean70729 8 лет назад
why do Lexus make boy racer cars and then skimp on the horsepower.
@d1sturb3d119
@d1sturb3d119 5 лет назад
Skimp? 467hp is not enough now? What races have you won so far in whatever you drive?
@pereldh5741
@pereldh5741 8 лет назад
Lexus. "Classy looks"..?
@ifiwherearichman
@ifiwherearichman 8 лет назад
who.drives a car like this in real life - nobody
@AlbionTarkhan
@AlbionTarkhan 3 года назад
Who wants a glorified Toyota Camry though? They’re such grandma cars
@tonypasby8287
@tonypasby8287 7 лет назад
That Vauxhall looks Repulsive next to the Lexus. the lexus looks Sexy.
@holdenls1ssz
@holdenls1ssz 7 лет назад
Actually its the lexus that looks repulsive.
@tonypasby8287
@tonypasby8287 7 лет назад
holdenls1ssz You need to get your eyes tested fella. should have gone to specsavers springs to mind. comparing that hideous Griffin to that Lexus?
@tripsadelica
@tripsadelica 5 лет назад
@@tonypasby8287 Tony...really! One man's meat and all that. Personally I think the Lexus looks like a Camry with a nose job (and in many ways it is just that because I believe the basic platform is shared between those two models). The Holden looks great and if you were to buy the luxury model (the "Caprice", not available in the UK) it would look just fantastic. Horses for courses mate...no need to name call and suggest that eyes need testing!
@georgipopov8989
@georgipopov8989 8 лет назад
Vauxhall, really??? As relevant as comparing a car and a scooter
@MeaHeaR
@MeaHeaR Год назад
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@cantavukcuoglu4375
@cantavukcuoglu4375 8 лет назад
Naah not much interested in these two...
@CheekyCultured
@CheekyCultured 8 лет назад
+Can Tavukçuoğlu I am interested in the Vauxhall/Holden
@PT111111
@PT111111 8 лет назад
+Yin Cheung Lau (Camera Geek) Better be quick because by next year, Holden will stop making that car.
@bluesky3694
@bluesky3694 8 лет назад
+Can Tavukçuoğlu but you took your time to watch the video and post a comment which make you a fucking loser!!
@cantavukcuoglu4375
@cantavukcuoglu4375 8 лет назад
Boss Bic​ Ok
@bluesky3694
@bluesky3694 8 лет назад
+Can Tavukçuoğlu lmao the loser reply. loser!!
@pascalmpower7944
@pascalmpower7944 8 лет назад
Will take the Vauxhall VXR8 over that Lexus. The only American powered car I like beside SRT Viper and the Challenger Hellcat. To be honest, Vauxhall build better American powered sedans than Cadillac, the Vauxhall is definitely my favorite sedan beside German sedans. What's better than a LSA+ Limited slip diff+ Manual+ RWD? (Although this got an auto). Get over it, Lexus is the looser, too many technologies that aren't gaining speed. Just add a LSD. Is that difficult? Why always have to be a ricer? The TVS won't get the car any faster but seems much slippery than the RCF, maybe more weight transferred? Anyway, can't beat Vauxhall's higher cornering speed and much quicker acceleration. This is how you lose 1 second :P
@haedenshanklin
@haedenshanklin 8 лет назад
the Vauxhall VXR8 is sold as a Chevy SS minus the supercharger in the US.
@pascalmpower7944
@pascalmpower7944 8 лет назад
How about the diff? I heard VXR8 uses a 40% side to side lock LSD
@damefaso
@damefaso 8 лет назад
+NISMO N ATTACK 東瀛戰神 R34 Z TUNE AHAHAHAHAHAHA
@pascalmpower7944
@pascalmpower7944 8 лет назад
damefaso ???
@tripsadelica
@tripsadelica 5 лет назад
Pascal...I agree with your comment but this car was not built in the UK by Vauxhall. It was built in the Holden factory in South Australia because it is really a Holden Commodore.
@micko11154
@micko11154 7 лет назад
lol!!! The engine is not as "charismatic" wtf does that mean? What a load of dog tripe! The performance difference is obvious by his comments while driving the car and the lap time. lol 'charismatic engine' lolol
@oldschoolracinggames5729
@oldschoolracinggames5729 8 лет назад
plastic crap for ones who couldnt afford real supercar by BMW/Merc/Audi.
@TheFunkyair
@TheFunkyair 8 лет назад
And also what is the price of M5
@adiththomas4045
@adiththomas4045 8 лет назад
+Turbo Snail I swear it's more like £80k
@TheFunkyair
@TheFunkyair 8 лет назад
+Turbo Snail no way it is too expensive than I thought
@TheFunkyair
@TheFunkyair 8 лет назад
+Turbo Snail ı am not expert could someone help about on road price is 72k£ or what content.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/digital/mobile-offers/retail-finance-offers?sbId=51
@adiththomas4045
@adiththomas4045 8 лет назад
+TheFunkyair Yeah it's around 74k but if you add options it'll probably end up around 80k
5 лет назад
So many salty Toyota fans.
@gperrin9050
@gperrin9050 6 лет назад
look at that lexus and its similarities with the Holdens meat and potatoes variety of reasonably priced high performance sports cars..the layout...the performance selector dial..even the interior layout..pretty scabby and maggoty that lexus would look to, and without being inspired by, choose to leech of a concept that has its roots in pedigree in order to profit
@laxthiru1644
@laxthiru1644 6 лет назад
LMFAO.. Comparing a tractor technology to a Lexus.seriously
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