We've seen a lot of reports of color fringing around text when using the CX as a monitor. This can be seen in the text clarity photo with ClearType enabled. To improve this, disable any sub pixel rendering (ClearType)
There's also a pretty thorough ClearType calibration tool that allows you to adjust how the sub pixel text smoothing works if you want the feature enabled but want to clean up the fringing. I got a new monitor about a year ago that I almost returned due to text fringing... until some internet searching reminded me that ClearType could be tuned. I believe the calibration exists for when the sub pixel structure doesn't match the "standard". IIRC in the monitor I have, the panel is "upside down" so the standard RGB is actually BGR which royally messed with ClearType. Of course I haven't tried this with an OLED TV, let alone the 48" CX, so YMMV.
I had the C9 55 for one year (sold, i will buy the lg oled cx48, need a more small monitor), never had burn problem. Really pc gaming/use dont burn the lg oled. Just do not unplug the electrical outlet when the tv is off (lg tv have a program runing to avoid burning when the tv is off)
I have this and use it as a monitors I taskbar to auto hide, his desktop icons and use wallpaper engine to always have a cool animated wallpaper. It’s an incredible experience!
I used an FZ950 as a monitor and had no issues. You have to be sensible and minimise static objects, hide taskbar, black background etc but its worth it for the image quality. I find IPS glow far more annoying.
Thank you so much for doing this review and video from a 'monitor' perspective. I have wanted an OLED monitor for a looong time and it is great to get a perspective on it.
Fantastic review! I always use your site for TV purchases, and I grabbed a B7 years ago based on the in depth information your reviews provide. I'm keeping the B7 in the living room for media, and grabbing the CX as an accompaniment to my 2K 27" 144Hz monitor for my gaming setup in my office. I'll keep using my 27" for regular PC use, with the CX off to the side for gaming, so it seems I can dodge the caveats and enjoy all the good points to this TV/monitor!
I love this site. Used it for all my tv purchasing comparisons over the last couple of years. Great in-depth, numbers-based reviewing. Now video, too? It’s like the GN of monitors. Love it 👌
@@moepOo Mount the TV on the wall, move the desk back ??? profit. The display is only too big when you can't properly accommodate your setup for it. I sit 2 feet from a 24", I'd move back to 4 feet to keep my same viewing angle with a 48" display.
@@Malinkadink Yea but you have understand, most people usually can comfortable accommodate a 32"-34" screen on their desks, which is why its the most popular size statistically. 48" is just too big for most people unless you have a "man cave", although people will usually want to go bigger than a 48" in those scenarios. So I think LG really missed the ball on this one for their targeted audience.
I'm using the 48" as my primary monitor. I wasn't overly impressed at first but after running a full calibration with different settings for different modes for the most part I am satisfied with it. IMO the worst thing about this as a PC monitor is the ABL. I understand what it is doing and why it is there but it's hella annoying when the screen dims down and you have to "wake it back up".
I've been playing TLoU2 on base PS4 on this TV for the past week it looks amazing considering it's 1080p. OLED and HDR really kick the image up a notch. I can't help but wonder how insane PS5 games are going to look on it.
nice. I have some questions, How does text and word documents look at that distance? Being a larger size how do you feel it would be for the production type of work ie, editing, digital art working, and multiple types of documents open?
Ive had one since they came out and I've been using it as my second monitor... its been great, no burn I can see so far... I also disable taskbar and icons on it and my oled light is set to 45-50 for normal desktop use.
I’ve used my C9 with 2070 super and it’s really good. I have zero icons on screen and hide the task bar, cycle the wallpapers and have all the logo brightness limiter on in the settings. 3000 of game and tv play and zero burn in so far. As an OLED “wears out” I hope to get $1/day usage out of it so 5-6 years given what I paid for it. I’m very happy so far. It’s really about not being stupid about how you use it and if you walk away, turn it off.
I have a C9 with my RTX2060 laptop connected to it. I agree 100%. As long as you use a screen saver and never let it sit on a static image, I've had no problems with it. It works great as a monitor, but a bit big at 55 inches. Considering getting the 48 inch model, but not sure if I want to pay again for less screen. Otherwise, I think it does everything reviewed for the CX including the higher bandwidth HDMI connection for the next generation of graphics cards.
I've been using a B7 for the past 3 years as a monitor. I haven't even been all that careful about icons, taskbar, etc and I don't have any burn in at all that I can tell... Not sure if I got lucky or what. I very often watch videos full screen and I do turn it off whenever I leave the room for a while.
Got this off of LG.com about a week after release in the US. Had mine before a majority of people. Had to replace the panel cause of a grey thin vertical line on the left side. Even with the line this is the best picture I've ever seen. Love it. Now that its been replaced...its even better. So glad I purchased this
@RaozSkillz do you relize how expensive big houses are in some cities? besides 48" looks kinda cute. I like 65" TVs, but my old 49" just has something special about it
If you're using it as a TV for streaming+console etc. there's a 55" review for that. You're not going to be productive or have a good keyboard + mouse setup if you're on a couch
I use my 65in C9 as my PC monitor in my living room. I don't use this PC for work, but I do use it for gaming and internet a lot. From my own research, it seems that in the last year or two there have been great advancements in preventing burn-in. It seems that bright blue static images are the only real threat now (I could be wrong). I've been using it heavily for the past 8 months without any signs of retention or burn-in. I did purchase it from Best Buy because they offered an extended warranty that covers burn-in 1 time, but it's not a cheap warranty... $500/4yr. For those who care about the 40gb/s of the HDMI port and not having 48, the 9 series TVs (2019 model) have full bandwidth HDMI 2.1, but I believe 55in is the smallest they offer. If you want to a Living room TV for playing games on, the LG OLED 9 and 10 series are the best. Also, the VRR 40hz minimum is better than the other TVs at 48. It also has native support for Atmos, so if you plug straight to your TV Windows will recognize it and allow you to send that signal. I do this because my receiver does not have HDMI 2.1 ports.
Upgraded from my Acer Predator x34, the old 100hz one. This monitor is great and I would definitely recommend it. My only concerns are the text in certain situations can look strange, the 4k resolution can strain even my 2080ti to the point that some games FPS make me dizzy, and the HDR in many games just has not caught up with the hardware. Cleartype off helps with the text, dropping in-game resolution has helped my frame rates / dizziness, and I will test HDR as patches / games come out. What I love is the versatility - not only can I PC game with this but my Xbox and Switch are connected too! And I can have the hockey game on while I am on the phone. I also like getting back more vertical screen ... the x34 felt really wide but not tall at all. 9.5/10 - definite buy!
So do you have to physically turn this off when your done using the PC or the display stays on? I also have the Predator, wondering how much better this is?
Hi! just wanted put my personal experience with OLED as monitor, been using LG 55GX for about a month now, and all i can say it the best screen i have ever seen. Text is super sharp for me, and i use cleartype. Remember to put off the screen shift in your oled screen saver settings, makes a huge diffrence. For the monitor size all i can say that 1-1.2m distance is the best as this is wall mounted it is easy to make this possible. Perfect size and love playing FPS games also from it, no need to turn head etc.. just make sure you have good mouse and mousepad.
What I would like to see in TV reviews is power consumption. I want to know how long a TV takes to turn on, especially as I use automatically turn off monitor function on a PC. My current monitor, takes about a second, which is annoying while reading, and my last was near instant. I had a TV that took about 60 seconds to turn on, booting up like a smartphone (android OS) One work around is to have a blank screen saver, but my monitor still uses 20w when I have HDR+local dimming on, otherwise, the backlight is on an uses 50w typically, regardless of picture or a blank screen saver. I'd probably use a screensaver, regardless, to prolong the life of the display and reduce screen burn.
Great vid! I am using the cx as monitor and like it. But there is one thing that it is auto dimming when the screen is showing darker contents. I have to switch to a full screen white content to “wake it up” even tho in the middle of playing. Tried every settings I got...
I just got mine Tuesday. I like it so far. 48 is a bit big but there’s nothing smaller available. I have used LG OLEDs since 2018 and luckily haven’t had any burn in so far on any of the three panels I own. If I can get 5 years out of it without noticeable burn in it’ll be worth it. Absolutely can’t wait for HDMI 2.1 GPUs going to reserve one as soon as they’re available.
My b6 has burn in now 2016 model I ok I bought it in 2017 when they just stated announcing the 2017 series later in that year so I had my tv for 4 years coming up to 5 now. Next year I plan to get a 42inch oled And I plan to get longer life out of it buy using the screen in a darkroom environment calibrate the panel at 100nits darkroom after calibration go back.into settings and turn on all the burn in protection features
I returned 2 of these due to a faint grey line that runs across the entire screen. Both had this issue in the same spot. Went back to the PG27UQ and honestly couldn’t be happier. A gaming monitor with 1000 nits peak brightness is just amazing for PC gaming.
I'm using it, also for playing Battlefield 4 with maxed out FOV. Responsiveness is remarkable; contrast, picture depth and blacks are amazing. Wouldn't go back to non-OLED and smaller screen. Thanks for the video!
I've been gaming mostly on a base PS4 on a 23 inch 1080p, non-HDR monitor throughout this generation. I've been playing on the 48 inch CX for a week and the difference is incredible. It's like I just got a mid-gen console upgrade--at 1080p! Horizon 2: Forbidden West trailer looks INSANE on this TV, whether you're watching the official trailer or the HDR one somebody made. I can't help but wonder how amazing it will be to finally play a next-gen game on this TV... on top of that, I've never played a game at 120 fps. There's so much to look forward to right now!
48" is clearly too large for the "average" computer desk, correct sizing is always important for the viewing distance. Over sizing is as bad as under sizing, if this was in the 32 -40" range they may be onto a winner for PC gamers.
I’ve been using this exact tv for two months as a monitor. And it’s great honestly. I came from a 34” ultra wide monitor. And I have no issues with burn in as of yet. But honestly if you’re careful and take precautions you can prolong burn in. Plus it’s not something you can test in a short amount of time. It takes years. So by the time I can tell you when it will get burn in there will be a new model.
Thank you for your reviews. I have had this set for about 4 weeks. I wanted to let you know that with the "Screen off" power saving feature in windows, I do see the TV turn off the power. I am not sure if this is what you were talking about comparing it to monitors that do the same. Hopefully this will be helpful to someone thinking about getting one. I also agree with your comment about a 3rd party stand. I got one with swivel and it honestly feels more stable than the built in stand. It allows me to move it a little farther away. The included stand is about 8.5 inches (21.5 cm) in depth. The 3rd party is less than half that.
@@zidavey MOUNTUP Universal Swivel TV Stand for 27-55 inch TVs, Height Adjustable TV Table Stand with Tempered Glass Base, Table Top TV Stand Base Holds Up to 88lbs, Max VESA 400x400mm. Strangely it seems to be taking me to a non-swivel version when I pull up my history. It was 29.99 so make sure you get the swivel if you want it.
Decided to purchase one of these last night over a Samsung Q80, a bit more damage on the pocket but I’m hoping it will be worth it for next generation council gaming!
The problem I have with this display is the aggressive ABL. The screen just dims too much while PC gaming when there are bright highlights covering the screen to the point it's really distracting. Its really the only weakness of OLED vs LED that I can see. LED, you deal with the local dimming zone halo issues.
My exact thoughts. HDR is subpar compared to the led counterpart. I'd sacrifice black levels for better HDR gaming anyday. My x930e can hit 1400 nits and I cannot play games on anything dimmer
I love my two Lg C7 oleds but there are still some issues they have with their software that don't seem resolved in newer models. I don't like how aggressive the ABL is when showing mostly white scenes that visibly dim down as its recognized. The tv also will auto darken near black scenes thinking its a fade to black but its not and results in weird pulsing between black and grey. it does this to help pixels reach full off mode for near blacks to boost contrast but its not smart enough. I can't seem to disable this in any setting. Also firmware issues when using hdmi arc & the tv has been getting slower after three years when using apps. still love it but not perfect. hope cx has improved on these things.
The over-time burn in test is very important. As I'm wondering should I buy this HDMI 2.1 OLED for a gaming monitor, I literally can't make a buying decision without a burn-in and degradation test.
I wouldn’t wish for this TV to be smaller, I’d rather get a monitor at that point then. The LG CX is a TV first and monitor second regardless of marketing
I bought a G9 a few weeks ago and set it next to my 55" CX and there was literally no way I could possibly use the G9 after having used an oled for a while. 2k hours so far and no signs of issues with the panel but I don't use it full time as a monitor it's about half the time.
Had this TV for a month. Best monitor for all around usage I ever had. 4k netflix, hdr movies, hdr gaming and even manage to stay masters in overwatch with 120hrz. Must buy
I have been searching about informations about this topic for a few day now. My conclusion is, that this cx display only has a 10 bit panel, so 12 bit color encoding is not going to benefit the cx at all. So in the end the specs for data transfer from what I learned actually hits a sweet spot. But besides that, the more notable issue is, that a for example 1080 ti will not work with the gsync feature. This is a much bigger problem. I will upgrade, but it took me two days to find out about this small detail, why the gsync tab did no show up. Aparently it only works with a 16xx series or 20xx and above, any 10xx disqualifies. This was not stressed out enough in my opinion.
A.K.B do you even have an OLED or you just a puppet repeating what you hear, I have and lg C8 - owned for the last few years and used EVERY day for gaming and tv, have the LG CX for the last few months for gaming and neither have any BURN in.
@@kaospr8442 I don't believe you one bit, either you have tested your TVs for burn-in and it's right in front of you, or you game for less than an hour and you aren't at extreme risk. It has been proven beyond reasonable doubt that OLED WILL suffer burn in damage from static images from gaming, TV networks, ect. I laugh when they advertise how good it is for sports, that sucker is a ticking time bomb. Enjoy your burn wounds 🔥 🚒 🧯 🔥 🔥
@@dragonfeatherz They could make 32" 1440p tho, it's the same pixel density and IMO better suited for 32". 4K is just too much for such a "small" size.
@@Sevapcici I don't know if they'd make 32" unless it's an inkjet OLED panel. Most markets consider anything 48" and less to be small tvs, and 32" is almost exclusively budget tvs now
nice. I have some questions, How does text and word documents look at that distance? Being a larger size how do you feel it would be for the production type of work ie, editing, digital art working, and multiple types of documents open?
@@RTINGSdotcom I appreciate the quick response. The reason I asked is because the QN90A has a 50" which is pretty close in size to the 48", and has all the gaming features that has. My main question was about the text clarity. Do you think the QN90A will have a better text clarity and is more suited for productivity and office work? Given the pixel arrangement is a traditional LCD pixel arrangement that we see in PC monitors and not the OLED arrangement that you discussed in this video? Thank you.
For the Pc gamers out there that own this Monitor...How far are you sitting from the scree itself? A typical desk is about 30" deep, a 36" is also available. Thanx. very informative Video, thank you
Just ordered one. I still have to decide on a 3080 or 3090. There is just too many sacrifices right now with monitors (light bleed, poor blacks, flickering, old ports (1.4/2.0), poor nits, poor FALD or edge lit/blooming, quality control, price for what you get, etc etc.). Excited to play with it/see what it can do.
HOW DO I FORCE HDR OFF? I have eye problems, HDR keeps turning on when I have manually disabled it in Windows 10. I cannot do bright screens. Please help.
I bought the LG 48" CX back in May when it came but ended up returning it for a refund 3 days later. The glossy screen was extremely reflective. With the lights on in the room, glare was maximized. In a dimly lit room during dark movie scenes, the screen acted like a mirror, reflecting myself and all the furniture in the room. This was very immersion-breaking. But the main reason I returned the TV was due to LG's bad programming of the eARC HDMI socket. I had my Denon X1600H (an eARC AV Receiver) plugged into the TV's eARC socket. In the TV settings I had eARC turned on and Passthrough selected but there were several problems. While watching the TV's built-in Netflix and Amazon Prime apps, Dolby Digital and Dolby Atmos content always had a 1 second lag delay. The audio was always 1 sec behind the video footage. eARC is supposed to eliminate lip-sync issues but this was not the case with the CX. I also had my PC plugged into HDMI 1 via my RTX 2080Ti GPU and my Nintendo Switch plugged into HDMI 4. With both devices passing audio through to the Denon AVR, sometimes audio would cut out completely, sometimes it worked and sometimes it sounded like a cybernetic dolphin singing underwater. After talking with tech support, they deemed the TV to be faulty and told me to either get it exchanged or refunded. I chose to refund. For now I'll keep using my 55" LG Nanocell SM9000. That TV barely reflects at all and the eARC works absolutely fine with my Denon AVR. I think i'll wait for Mini LED before i upgrade.
anybody here still enjoying and amazed by how great the LG C9 is in 2020 ...GAMING ON THE C9 is still great on ps4 pro hopefully it will shine even greater when the PS5 and XBOX series X drop during the holidays. :)
I personally use the OLED for my gaming and entertainment, and my regular LCD display for work. This way, you preserve the life of the OLED and don't have to worry about burn in, it really is a win win situation
I'm planning on using a 65" LG CX for a gaming monitor when I build out a new ampere computer for Cyberpunk. It will be a beast, but it will only be used for gaming.
@@isakh8565 I'm not sure I could stomach paying more than 1600, tops for a gpu, but we'll see. If the performance is eye watering enough, I will definitely be tempted. My seating position is 6 - 6.5 feet from my television. I love it. I want Cyberpunk to make my eyes bleed and my head explode. Not literally, but you get my meaning.
The text clarity is a bit of an issue for me but everything else on this TV is just so darn great. It's sitting in front me right now waiting for a RTX 30 card to unleash it's full potential.
I have a 1440p 27 monitor and a 49 inch x900f that I use as a monitor, I can clearly see pixels on 27 1440p despite higher PPI even at the same viewing distance. Everything including text is just sharper and cleaner on the TV, especially the games.
This is a 10bit panel, it doesn’t need the 48Gbps. All that’s needed is 40.1Gbps HDMI 2.1 4K@120hz 444 10bit HDR is what you will get when the new GPU cards come out.
@@CaveyMoth Let's not go there. There's no such thing as too much bandwidth for digital signals. I could easily think of uses for the higher bandwidth.
Sir plz suggest between lg c9 and sony x 9500 or lgsm 9000 for 65 inch for 7 to 8 hours daily viewing and no gaming.. need perfect picture quality and durability.. . Thanking you
Hi, not sure if this was answered yet. Curious about the part of the video where you guys mention that the TV is expected to only have 40GBPS as its maximum bandwidth instead of the full 48 in HDMI 2.1. What does that mean for gaming on the ps5 example and how do you guy determine the maximum bandwidth of the TV? I'm interested in purchasing this TV to use with the PS5 and want something that can take full advantage of its 2.1 HDMI output.
Pretty sure that Sony A9 is a fail, doesn't support HDMI 2.1 so no 4k 120hz and no variable refresh. Sony is completely out of touch between its different divisions.
I am a TV pc gamer from 2008. Never think to coming back to " Monitor ". Better color , big affordable panel . At beginning finding detailed spec was very difficult, input lag , overscan, full pixel resolution 4:4:4 where little know specification. New recent TV switch from 1080p to UHD gave utter complication. The pc hardware were not ready for resolution jump requirement. But now in the end of 2020 we have the new nvidia rtx3080/90 series and with can couple with lg cx new fantastic tv monitor
Could you post the Inputlag times in PC Mode with 1440p and 1080p 120Hz too as in the 55“ Cx reviews, this could be important for Users who want to game in the 48“ Model. Is there a huge difference in Inputlag Times in PC Mode Gaming Preset and Game Console Mode Gaming Preset?
I thought that OLED's had Auto-refresh and other Options to avoid the Burn-In? Like the ones who have full screen test to refresh the pixels, along the automatic refresh after a few hours before they turn off automatic.
Yeah there's some built-in functions to prevent burn-in. But I don't think they can say how effective they will be when using this as a monitor since there's a lot more static content being displayed. I think most people who use OLED TV's as monitors do things like auto-hide taskbar, hide desktop icons, etc. to help reduce the risk. Personally, I'd rather use this primarily for gaming and watching movies and such, and a secondary display for web-browsing and all that.
I'm pondering exchanging the 55 for the 48 inch, the 55 inch looks great but after two weeks I'm still having eye strain when playing games for prolonged peroids. I also notice that anime doesn't look quite as sharp on a bigger screen. Does anyone else notice this? I sit 5 feet away from the TV which is why I grabbed the 55, was the recommended size to distance.
TruMotion greyed out when on Dolby Vision. Hi I recently bought the 55 CX and noticed that when I enable Dolby Vision TruMotion is greyed out making it impossible to turn off. I really dislike the soapapora affect that TruMotion creates. I’ve updated my CX with the latest software, updated Apple TV 4K to latest OS and am using an hi speed HDMI cable sold at the apple store. I also have a 55 B7 with Dolby Vision enable and on that older model I am able to turn off TruMotion. Has anyone heard of any upcoming updates that may resolve this? Thank you all! For now I am using HDR.
