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LGBT+ Discourse: Bisexuality and Fluidity of Labels 

Nicholas Black
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This probably won’t help the palpable tension between the pansexuals and bisexuals. We should just kiss and make up.
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@NicholasBlack
@NicholasBlack 4 года назад
***disclaimer: this is not my official stance on the entire bi lesbian discourse. Just the one side of it. I’m still filtering through different lesbian hot takes for the other circumstances/nuances.
@ThisGirlReviews
@ThisGirlReviews 4 года назад
I personally thought bi lesbains were bisexual women in lesbain relationship who just said lesbain because it was easier.
@emmar4085
@emmar4085 4 года назад
If you're collecting lesbian hot takes on the bisexual lesbian discourse I'll throw my two cents into the collection box: a lot of bi girls use the label lesbian because it is situational appropriate, and certain lesbians are mad not because it creates any danger to lesbians but because they hate bisexual women. Situational appropriateness can include a lot of things, like pursuing women at the moment, dating women at the moment, or even just expressing a connection to lesbian culture. In my experience, a lot of the lesbians who get up in arms about this are usually very fixated on viginas. They tend to also be transphobic and Ace exclusionary, but not always. I think the danger excuse is exactly that, an excuse. Bi women aren't putting me in danger because now strait men think I'll be into them, strait men already thought I'd be into them. I haven't been asked if I'm sure and if I ever think about dicks and did I know how big his dick is because of bi women, I was asked that because some men don't have any boundaries. The idea that lesbians can be changed by good dick gas been around for a while. Bi women don't need to give men false hope that they can fuck a lesbian, they already have it.
@emmar4085
@emmar4085 4 года назад
Also, good job on the foundation, but please start using sunscreen everyday. Your white boy battle with the sun hurts my soul.
@justwhy9427
@justwhy9427 4 года назад
If you’re still taking any more lesbian hot takes I’ll give mine: you cannot be a bisexual lesbian. Lesbian specifically means a woman (or woman aligning person) being attracted to exclusively other women (aligning or otherwise). Because of this discourse I have many friends who are being perused by men at much higher rates than before. They also get more “corrective” comments including: men offering to “fix” them with dick, men insisting that they can be attracted to men, and the ever so common “you’re just playing hard to get”. What pisses this lesbian off about this whole discourse is that THERE ARE OTHER WOMEN LOVING TERMS THAT MULTI-SEXUAL PEOPLE CAN USE. Terms like wlw or sapphic can be used by bi/pan/omni/poly people with no issue as those terms only are defined by the love of women, while the word lesbian is not. The word lesbian is both defined by the romantic and/or sexual love for women, AND also the lack of romantic/sexual love for men. At least that’s how I see it.
@Cloudiicandi
@Cloudiicandi 4 года назад
Hey Nicholas off topic here but what's your opinion on biphobia. Love your vids😙
@winter_wolf3284
@winter_wolf3284 4 года назад
Daily reminder: I have half a brain cell left and I’m very afraid to use it
@NicholasBlack
@NicholasBlack 4 года назад
Winter_Wolf32 honestly yeah That’s exactly how it’s going rn
@bladesofderp4649
@bladesofderp4649 4 года назад
Mood
@falconoreilly2607
@falconoreilly2607 4 года назад
That really is a whole ass mood and I love it.
@adettessubs444
@adettessubs444 3 года назад
@@falconoreilly2607 I like your name
@falconoreilly2607
@falconoreilly2607 3 года назад
@@adettessubs444 thank you! i like your too!
@catdad2757
@catdad2757 4 года назад
I identify as bi but i am attracted to everything. The reason i chose bi as my "label" is bc i am more attracted to people who present as a binary gender than people who don't. Not to say that i find enby's or or agendered people unattractive because i absolutely dont, i just tend to lean more male or female- and if someone tries to come at me and tell me i am invalid for identifying as bi when i /should/ identify as pan i will actually devour their unborn childs soul.
@jestphoenix
@jestphoenix 4 года назад
pan usually means all without preference, so ig you're like.. just fitting the labels.
@autumnkuzmik2992
@autumnkuzmik2992 4 года назад
Same!
@gabezwurld9615
@gabezwurld9615 4 года назад
Honey SugarBee I think leaning towards some over others is still pan, but that’s my opinion. I respect your label! Feel free to educate me and my uncultured self :)
@catdad2757
@catdad2757 4 года назад
@@gabezwurld9615 its not that the identity itself is not pan. Yeah, maybe i should use that label but due to my more favored preference, the ease of acceptance towards using the label bi, and my over all favor towards the label i choose to use it. Technically because i am attracted to all i could use it, but i am more attracted to people who identify within the binary than people who do not and tend to date within the binary. It's just my preference. Others who feel similar may just use pan. This is just how i choose to identify.
@madamemystery4256
@madamemystery4256 4 года назад
I kinda see how you feel. I'm pansexual and I often get told I'm just bisexual. It's really annoying isn't it?
@RyelynCaster
@RyelynCaster 4 года назад
I just get kinda pissed off when people try to tell bisexuals they’re pan or pansexuals they’re bi. Like I saw a person on the internet trying to tell bi people they can’t be attracted to non-binary people. Honestly, just leave people alone. Just vibe.
@NicholasBlack
@NicholasBlack 4 года назад
The Bronze Eagle honestly that’s the video in a nutshell. Just vibe. We vibin.
@percyaguirre2970
@percyaguirre2970 4 года назад
Bro I used to see you on a lot of the comment sections of videos I would watch! Great to see you again:0
@mavenlives4279
@mavenlives4279 4 года назад
Yeah. Like my friend, who is also a member of the lgbtq community , found out that I identified as bi. But then I mentioned that I had a crush on this one non-binary person at our school. And he was like, “You can’t be attracted to them. You’re bi”. And I was like “I’m attracted to more than one gender, but not all genders”. And he was like “You’re pan. You’re not bi”. And then I got really worried that I was invalidating bi people and I knew that pan didn’t completely fit me. So, I just stopped labeling myself. I’m honestly just so worried about hurting and invalidating people. Because so many people in this community have been through so much and they just deserve love and validation and I don’t want that to hurt them. But then I realized that you can identify as bi and be attracted to more than two genders. To sum it up, it would have been much easier if we could just vibe.
@erinbathie-moore8478
@erinbathie-moore8478 4 года назад
The Bronze Eagle Honestly, being Bi just means that you like two genders. Only the individual can say which genders those are
@synflwr
@synflwr 4 года назад
MavenLives 42 Honestly as someone who’s gay, I don’t see the point in labels. I just say my label is me :)
@guzhuoyan
@guzhuoyan 4 года назад
“i’m always half asleep” i‘ve been called out
@helio_troped
@helio_troped 4 года назад
nick: there is a certain sect of bisexuals - me, giggling: *bisectuals*
@sillyberry5050
@sillyberry5050 4 года назад
"We should just kiss and make up" -description Yes, I agree
@leovaldezkinnie8163
@leovaldezkinnie8163 4 года назад
Phil T I knew I wasn’t the only one they read the description
@violetskies3397
@violetskies3397 3 года назад
I also agree.
@lucyrain9621
@lucyrain9621 4 года назад
i am very proud of you and your skin. we stan. iconic.
@madamemystery4256
@madamemystery4256 4 года назад
Geez. People should just accept eachother. I mean we get enough hassle from homophobes. Why attack people who choose to identify one way?
@raisin2404
@raisin2404 3 года назад
I fully agree
@erikavodvarkova2808
@erikavodvarkova2808 4 года назад
Speaking as a straight tryin' to be ally person here. I came across people who believe bisexuality to be inherently trans exclusive, given the existence of the label pansexual, which can be potentially harmful to both trans people and bisexuals. As said in the video, people often gravitate towards the bi label, because it is generally well recognised so I really think we should make a clear distinction at least in the fact that bisexuality does not exclude transgender people. If a person does that, it means they are transphobic. End of story.
@elizabethbarker6692
@elizabethbarker6692 4 года назад
exactly. i myself am bisexual and if i am attracted to a trans man i am attracted to him as a man and trans woman as a woman. also i go by the definition that bisexuality is attraction to at least 2 genders ranging from 2 to infinite but there is a recognition of gender within this attraction which is how i see the difference between pans and bis/other multi sexual orientations
@JC-jd1us
@JC-jd1us 4 года назад
The people who made up the label for bisexuality inculded trans people and non binary folks. It's to all masculinity and femmenity. It got co-opted by Terfs and twisted over history. People just need to let others identify as they want and dig for their history that's been buried throughput time.
@its_lemon_19
@its_lemon_19 4 года назад
Erika Vodvárková Yeah. Also a straight Ally here. I wish we could just love more ❤️🏳️‍🌈
@erikavodvarkova2808
@erikavodvarkova2808 4 года назад
@Cleverly relatable Username Exactly, they shouldn´t be (edit) considered a separate gender.
@lightishredgummi9654
@lightishredgummi9654 4 года назад
@Cleverly relatable Username that's what I always got annoyed about when reading about people in the LGBT+ community saying that bi is just for being attracted to cis people. I hope those people at least realize how invalidating that could be to trans people. I'm most probably straight but a worry of mine is making a partner dysphoric by publically identifying as such because they don't identify as male, and that thought has been in my mind ever since I heard about trans people so to hear about people in the LGBT+ community treating trans male/female as separate genders from male and female sort of startles me sometimes.
@sylvies5078
@sylvies5078 4 года назад
I identify as bi instead of pan because I have a type. Oftentimes the main difference is that pan, poly, and omni people dont have a physical type. But that's how I see it. That's it. That's all it is. I can like anyone, just am more attracted to feminine-presenting people. That's the only reason I identify as bi instead of pan, and at the end of the day, I don't have to explain it to you if you're being rude about it, and I'm going to be attracted to who I'm attracted to, goddammit. We vibin, with or without you.
@jestphoenix
@jestphoenix 4 года назад
i mean i like long hair but idk if that's like actually a type?? its just something i like but otherwise idc pan confusion never stops
@probablynotyourmom6456
@probablynotyourmom6456 4 года назад
Yes! Bisexuals like all gender so do pansexuals buuuuuut bisexuals have a preference like they would rather date a girl or boy but pansexuals font care they just don't and thats how is see it
@juniperrs
@juniperrs 4 года назад
i feel like sometimes i can have a preference but i still identify as pan? idk i just vibe
@sylvies5078
@sylvies5078 4 года назад
@@juniperrs vibin be valid, my dude
@riel8428
@riel8428 4 года назад
@@probablynotyourmom6456 That's not true at all. Bi people don't necessarily have a type, and you can't create a whole sexuality just for preferences. Bi just means you're attracted to two or more genders, that's it.
@SoapSqueezy
@SoapSqueezy 4 года назад
My only Bi problem is that I’m a girl who leans more towards men, but everyone thinks I’m gay. It’s just annoying to say I think a guy is hot and everyone say “but you’re gay” no I’m not, I’m bi hon
@Lu-vj8is
@Lu-vj8is 4 года назад
sameee i'm bi and i used to id as a lesbian so whenever i used to say i thought a guy was attractive (after coming out as bi) my ex best friend told me "I tHoUgHt yOu WeRe GaY"
@readmydescifyouwant650
@readmydescifyouwant650 4 года назад
'mind your own buisness' *happy bi noises*
@kamalanic3024
@kamalanic3024 4 года назад
People be whack. Just be you, and if you not hurting anyone else, then we chillin. Vibe or die. P.s. you're looking great Nick! Love watching these videos ^-^
@megaultraboop2705
@megaultraboop2705 4 года назад
vibe or die
@human_bread3911
@human_bread3911 4 года назад
Vibe or die i will use that on any transphobic person i meet
@SleepyKitten626
@SleepyKitten626 4 года назад
Yes, we are *very* proud of you, you beautiful child.
@dogcollar
@dogcollar 4 года назад
i and most other bisexuals i know take on the “2 means two GROUPS of genders” thing where the two groups are something like “genders that are and are not my own”. so like i don’t care about gender or physicality personally and could id as pan if i wanted to tbh. i considered it at one point, but the only thing stopping me was like. a very weird attachment to the Bi Aesthetic And Culture over the pan one. i’m pretty sure i just imprinted on the bi flag and the bi bob as a 15 year old and am unable to not identify with that, and i think for a lot of (but not all) people who kind of skirt the edge of several labels, it ends up depending on the one you understood first
@lailahmeness9179
@lailahmeness9179 4 года назад
O my gosh I'm like the exact same! I like lots of genders but I tend to id as bi because when I realized I was not straight, pansexuality wasn't really a known thing. So I ended up getting attached to the bi community and their vibes and stuff.
@MichelleBrown-vg4np
@MichelleBrown-vg4np 4 года назад
to me being bi has nothing to do with gender. it's about biology. male and female. gender is in the mind, it's apart of personality. my opinion. I like biological men and biological women. if you take the crazy parts of being of a non binary gender like the superiority complex that's a turn off. explanation. if you introduce yourself by your gender that's weird to me. or you put down binary people that's weird. if you claim to transcend gender like a god that's real weird. also unpopular opinion I won't date a trans person. not because of some imagined phobia. I am not afraid of trans people, nor do I hate them. I just don't see the point of sacrificing my own happiness for another person. also I'm married so this entire comment is hypothetical. if my husband one day told me he wanted to become a woman. we'd get a divorce. I married him for my happiness. him being happy makes me happy, but my happiness is number one. so if he wanted to become a woman that's cool I'd support him, but i wouldn't be happy in that relationship anymore. all of this is hypothetical, my husband is as straight and male as one could possibly be. my persobal attraction is masculine biological men and feminine biological women. everything in between I'd make a hard pass. that's my definition of bisexuality. id love to discuss this with others I don't know many people of the lgbtq (i know like 5 people) and I'd love to learn about others opinions. but I don't take kindly to insults so be respectful and I'll do the same
@meandmybobbygee1812
@meandmybobbygee1812 4 года назад
Mood
@sylvies5078
@sylvies5078 4 года назад
@@MichelleBrown-vg4np I'd like to say as a nonbinary person (who hasn't socially transitioned yet but like, I know I'm enby), we and some trans people introduce ourselves with our gender as a way of coming out immediately and making sure they use correct pronouns. I dont think there's usually superiority involved, just wanting to not get punched in the gut with a pronoun.
@MichelleBrown-vg4np
@MichelleBrown-vg4np 4 года назад
@@sylvies5078 that's cool I just don't like it shoved in my face. I refer to all people by their name just in case so as to avoid that but I don't see the problem with someone accidentally calling you by the wrong pronoun or using ma'am instead of sir or vice versa. if it comes up than sure enlighten me but if not i don't care. I'm biologically female. I identify as such, but I've been called sir or Michael or Mitchell if my name is being read out. I don't become irrate and break things or AXE people. it's not a big deal. and before you go yes it is it hurts my feelings. sure it hurt my feelings when my 5th grade teacher called me Michael every day for 10+ months. no I'm not in the 5th grade I should clarify I'm almost 30 now. my point is as that most people will apologize and correct themselves if they don't then don't associate with them. easy. that includes family members. they can suck a toe for all I care. besides I never said that introducing themselves was an act of superiority. I was talking about those weirdos that act better than others because they are soooooooo special by using their non binary/ trans status to lord over the lowly unspecial cis folk. ugh I hate that word. cis sounds like a curse word. who started that stupid shit any way. I just find it weird to go up to an absolute stranger and inform them of the state of your genitals. its like " hi my name is BLANK. I may look like a female/male but in fact I have INSERT HERE. " RU-vid will delete my comment if I go into detail but you get the point. or in the case of non binary who don't identify as either "hi .... I TRANSCEND GENDER FOR I AM NEITHER." and then they scream and yell if you were weirded out by that. calling you names and then ruining your life. or trying to. sometimes they are unsuccessful. now I am aware that not everyone is like this. but I'd rather not deal with it myself. so if someone introduces themselves to me by their gender identity I'm gonna just leave. call me a bigot or a phobe. don't care. I just don't want to deal with it. people are not entitled to my time or effort. if someone comes to me and they are trans/ non binary and they give their name, have a conversation with me and I ask. go right ahead. tell me about it. or like I said I make a mistake than sure. otherwise I don't want to know. it's weird. I don't go around telling people "hi I'm Michelle. I'm biologically female and bi." that's weird.
@brianna2000smith
@brianna2000smith 4 года назад
I'm just vibing tbh, I'm bisexual and a Gryffindor hot mess. By the way you're doing amazing sweetie.
@strawberrygoldfiish8606
@strawberrygoldfiish8606 4 года назад
Brianna Smith I’m a hufflepuff UwU
@human_bread3911
@human_bread3911 4 года назад
I am a slytherin U-U
@ilistentoalottatruecrime5
@ilistentoalottatruecrime5 4 года назад
Bisexual Hufflepuff;w;
@islanangle1404
@islanangle1404 3 года назад
Same here!
@raisin2404
@raisin2404 3 года назад
Bi Ravenclaw hiding in the land of potato ( Ireland)
@noatheboa8141
@noatheboa8141 4 года назад
Can we all just take after Nicholas and just be little gremlins that mind their own business and vibe?
@pinkberries3993
@pinkberries3993 4 года назад
Im pansexual the reason I identify with this more then Bi is bc my attraction really has nothing to do with gender, everyone is so pretty and amazing. 😭 Ps you're doing amazing sweetie ✨
@noatheboa8141
@noatheboa8141 4 года назад
Something that I really support is figuring yourself out. Labels, including the base and micro, are here to help you feel a sense of belonging, or that you're not alone, within the LGBTQIA+ community. If identifying as bisexual, pansexual, asexual, demisexual, polysexual, etc. helps you understand yourself, then that's great. It's also perfectly fine if you don't want to label yourself because you're still valid. Additionally, it's okay if you change labels because you don't think/feel that it fits anymore. I know that I, personally, changed a lot the more I researched and learned about the community and the more I learned about myself. Hell, I'm still learning more about myself every day. I identify as panromantic, but, if I someday find myself sexually attracted to a person, I'm still valid even if I keep identifying as just panromantic or panromantic demisexual. As long as they're not hurting anyone, let them be them.
@Miss98Bumble
@Miss98Bumble 4 года назад
here's how I see my bisexuality: being attracted to people of my gender identity AND people of different gender identities. my bisexuality is inclusive of all genders, and it still falls into the "root word" definition you mentioned (1. people of my gender identity 2. people of other gender identities).
@MaryNooB
@MaryNooB 4 года назад
Dude I was once called transphobic for being bi. Which is a nuisance because I will have no problems dating a trans folk or a nb pal. Anyway, we have enough problems for a part of the community saying we’re a phase 🤪🤙
@averagemossenjoyer
@averagemossenjoyer 4 года назад
Half asleep? Big mood.
@human_bread3911
@human_bread3911 4 года назад
I think i am in love with your profile picture ;-;
@finch4309
@finch4309 4 года назад
literally i commented on a lavendertowne video saying something about being pan and all these people went off on me about how i was just bi and i was just like ummmmmmm i was just trying to make a wholesome comment and now you’re attacking a whole sexuality mind your own goddamn business and just let people identify how they want so long as they aren’t hurting others. i have friends who use bi as meaning they just like guys and girls as well as having friends who use bi to mean they like all the genders. personally my factor for attraction is personality, and beyond basic human hygiene i have zero physical standards and i have no preference for a certain gender. i don’t care how you identify or how you describe it so long as you aren’t hurting anyone. i don’t get why people have such a problem with this like i’m just trying to live my life why do you feel the need to comment on it
@bladesofderp4649
@bladesofderp4649 4 года назад
sunshine ANOTHER LAVENDERTOWNE FAN?
@nuhuhuhhhhhhh
@nuhuhuhhhhhhh 4 года назад
2 OTHER LAVENDERTOWNE FANS?!?
@bladesofderp4649
@bladesofderp4649 4 года назад
AAAAAAAA
@sylvies5078
@sylvies5078 4 года назад
THREE OTHER LAVENDERTOWNE FANS?!
@wooyeah1738
@wooyeah1738 4 года назад
4 FELLOW LAVENDERTOWNE FANS? Also, I agree. As a pan, I just want a pretty, nice person to cuddle me sometimes, not people to bitch to me about how I’m Bi not pan, or that pan doesn’t exist.
@howthatratseestheworld3301
@howthatratseestheworld3301 4 года назад
No one: Me, realising this at the end of the video: ... Nick's face is so shiny.. Foundation makes your face shiny? I live on 2 braincells bickering over a cookie, please help lmao
@aliciaschroeder7212
@aliciaschroeder7212 4 года назад
That last sentence is a complete mood.
@human_bread3911
@human_bread3911 4 года назад
I love this comment idk why
@airiellemcdeavitt
@airiellemcdeavitt 4 года назад
You seriously my favorite RU-vidr. I love how you just spit straight facts.
@gloomboyszn
@gloomboyszn 4 года назад
Well, opinions, but reasonable and understandable opinions at that.
@MikkiPike
@MikkiPike 4 года назад
I really hope you get a chance to say "... I can tell you that, AND IM HALF ASLEEP." In a video
@manishgujral1671
@manishgujral1671 4 года назад
Ellen approves
@smolkiwi2316
@smolkiwi2316 4 года назад
My 1.5 brain cells failing, it's like 2:04 am. And as SOON as this video ends I think im gonna pass out Help
@NicholasBlack
@NicholasBlack 4 года назад
Smol Kiwi me needing to wake up in two hours, but still awake like a bastard
@smolkiwi2316
@smolkiwi2316 4 года назад
@@NicholasBlack mood👏
@Chris-ln7tr
@Chris-ln7tr 4 года назад
i’m pan but i came out as poly bc it was what was comfortable at the time, and the person i was with completely invalidated it bc hes so against micro labels. i just. don’t. get. why you would invalidate someone else’s identity. because you think SEVEN BILLION PEOPLE should fit into one of a very small number of labels. like, no one experiences ANY emotion exactly the same way? it doesn’t make sense that they’d all agree with one or two universal labels
@sylla_headhunter4725
@sylla_headhunter4725 4 года назад
I identify as bi because the moment I realized I wasn't hetero (after a lot of fearing and tearing up on my part, honestly. 14 year old me was whack i tell you) I did not know there was something called "pansexuality". I had limited access to lgbtq+ rep (VERY limited, might I add), I had no idea what to google exactly and I had, for a long time, no one to talk to about these topics. So the moment I heard about the concept of "bisexuality", I kind of grabbed it, hugged it to my chest and never let go. I feel comfortable with it because it's a label I have used for YEARS now. This whole debate about "pansexuality is more woke bc bi ppl can't be attracted to non-binary folks!" (or sometimes even TRANS folks, like wtf ppl, calm down??) is so weird to me and I wish ppl would just,,, stop. Let people identify however they like, label or no label, thank you. (also, maybe unpopular opinion but?? not being attracted to a person based on ANYTHING is not something you should be dragged for?? Not being attracted to someone =/= not treating them with respect. I am not attracted to ppl with a certain body type, that doesn't mean I would shame said group of ppl for looking a certain way. I know we're all being super SUPER careful about what to say bc someone will find it offensive no matter what but can we PLEASE stop equaling attraction and treating ppl with respect? Thanks)
@knifedd
@knifedd 4 года назад
I'm an agender bisexual person attracted to all genders. I'm fine with alternative multisexual labels as long as people are fine with my definition of my bisexuality and don't assign bisexuality as inherently binary, transphobic, or enbyphobic in nature. My definition of bisexuality changed as I started to understand myself better, but my label didn't.
@cookieninja8221
@cookieninja8221 4 года назад
Thank you for these types of videos, they’re really educational and you’re awesome
@torreykat
@torreykat 3 года назад
This is me just...saying a thing into the void so it can stop living in my head. This video has helped me feel comfortable claiming the micro-label of demi-pansexual. That actually feels good to say it. Whew.
@zoecarr6139
@zoecarr6139 4 года назад
Man this is a subject that's really hard for me personally as a bi person, multisexual labels are so fucking wild tbh. My partner is pansexual and we talk about this on a regular basis and we always come to the same agreement that labels are sorta bullshit and all depend on personal preference.
@forresttherunner4092
@forresttherunner4092 4 года назад
When I was growing up, i didn’t even know bi was a thing so I kinda struggled to realize I was bi, but since I’ve realized, I’ve been comfortably using that label for years now. However, it’s as you said, there’s nuance based on each individual. I only recently figured out I’m probably ace or on the asexual spectrum because I thought people were just exaggerating their level of sexual attraction since I didn’t know what it felt like. And with my eventual exposure to the concept of non-binary and androgynous people, it’s caused me to re think and reevaluate my stance on my sexual and romantic orientation. Currently, I still identify as biromantic because I’m generally attracted to more feminine or more masculine presenting people in terms of aesthetics, however, I’m a firm believer that people have the capability to love anyone if that’s what happens. You can’t choose who you fall in love with. So generally, I’d be more inclined to have a romantic relationship with a boy or a girl, but if I fell in love with a non-binary individual, I would still date them. I have yet to do so though so that tbd. That’s my stance personally.
@mariperez8337
@mariperez8337 4 года назад
I usually identify as bi because whenever I say I'm pan outside of a friendship/knowing group, I always get bombarded with questions so saying I'm bi is just so much easier because everyone just nods like "mhmn, yes"
@fivenightsatpastastuck2132
@fivenightsatpastastuck2132 4 года назад
Ya know, I'm not at all sure what's going on with my gender or sexuality but I do have an entire jug of iced tea and a bowl of popcorn that I put honey and chocolate syrup over so at least that's something.
@sunsetgloom805
@sunsetgloom805 4 года назад
I was going to post an entire rant about someone invalidating my gender and several sexualities but I'm not because I'm not brave enough to face the potential backlash :')
@ThisGirlReviews
@ThisGirlReviews 4 года назад
You can always make a video like this and disabled the comments and likes.
@wooyeah1738
@wooyeah1738 4 года назад
You can bitch in the replies here if you want, I’d love to share rants!
@applepatronum4934
@applepatronum4934 4 года назад
I just wanna say, thank you for your videos. You educate me, teach me complicated English words (i'm Hungarian), and also make me feel valid. Keep going ❤️
@sleepycryptid8275
@sleepycryptid8275 4 года назад
What I hate is people saying "Oh so you're pan?" Or "you're just bi" to me when I am omni.
@ambivalent7808
@ambivalent7808 4 года назад
as someone who's poly, i've gotten a lot of people who think polysexual = polyamory. it's a little frustrating having to explain myself almost anytime someone asks about my sexuality.
@maybemckenna
@maybemckenna 4 года назад
ugh discourse is so emotionally draining. i just want to vibe.
@amberlightfoot4225
@amberlightfoot4225 4 года назад
2:10 Thank you! I always see so many things saying that being pan is just attraction to personality, and physical features don’t matter at all when this often is not true. It is attraction regardless of gender, not necessarily attraction to personality.
@Catherine-rp2pc
@Catherine-rp2pc 4 года назад
Where are my pan babies???
@Lee-xd9wx
@Lee-xd9wx 4 года назад
Hi
@toonlonk
@toonlonk 4 года назад
here
@gothbee1396
@gothbee1396 4 года назад
:p
@human_bread3911
@human_bread3911 4 года назад
Hello mother/father/parent i am here U-U 💝💛💙
@OctooGirl
@OctooGirl 4 года назад
Weeee
@janeystevens3293
@janeystevens3293 4 года назад
hi, i’m a bisexual! the bi label for me is easy, as a minor living in the american south. really, i’m more pan or omni, but like i said, bi is an easy label for people to understand. labeling for me is pretty fluid, and i really don’t care as long as it’s not “hetero” or “lesbian.” labels are nice for people and kinda yucky for others, and everyone should just vibe with other people’s labels. to quote nick, “let’s just kiss and make up.”
@unsaltedtoast
@unsaltedtoast 4 года назад
we all just need to vibe just vibe with each other
@aghostwithtwobrokelegs9995
@aghostwithtwobrokelegs9995 4 года назад
As a pansexual im using the one braincell I have to focus on things that aren't peoples genders. But i agree we should all kiss and make up.
@wat_als_7729
@wat_als_7729 4 года назад
As an omni person I was almost scared to watch this video, but the things said were really good in my opinion, and even tho I've seen and had this conversation many times I still learned things. Thhis is some good shit
@morgan-9910
@morgan-9910 4 года назад
I´m panromantic and I have this friend that once asked me which my "label" was and I said I liked "whatever the house brings", because I thought it was a pretty much good explanation, but then they asked me "okay but which is your label", and I remember thinking "what´s wrong with my answer?", like it wasn´t valid or something and I never felt so confused and so insecure about my "label" before.
@tortiachippp
@tortiachippp 4 года назад
69 veiws... Amazing
@sssophii_
@sssophii_ 3 года назад
Nick: Lets talk about that My brain: *good mythical morning intro*
@kailynthompson8693
@kailynthompson8693 4 года назад
As a lesbian, I can confirm we have a culture all to ourselves
@briannewojtowicz4218
@briannewojtowicz4218 2 года назад
truly
@cooper8184
@cooper8184 4 года назад
i’m not straight and that’s all i know 😗✌️
@megaultraboop2705
@megaultraboop2705 4 года назад
"just vibe ok?" is now my way of life
@generalcorgi6229
@generalcorgi6229 4 года назад
thank you for talking about bi/pan etc. without making it sound like a black-and-white issue a lot of the time people are just like “it’s THIS or THAT” but u did not do that :) so yeah thank youuu 💖💜💙
@Raye-Raye
@Raye-Raye 4 года назад
Thank you so much for this, I’m pan and I’ve seen a lot of Pan/Bi discourse because of definitions, and I’ve never been able to put this in good enough words to sort it out. I’ve had a lot of friends that struggle with what label they want to use for themselves, and I’ve always just told them to use whichever label they’re comfortable with, and there’s no pressure to label it because the labels are just for you and your self of self.
@tonilou
@tonilou 4 года назад
Tbh I'm so tired of this discussion. Could everyone just shut up and mind their own business? Just vibe and threat people with kindness...
@brooklyntolson3557
@brooklyntolson3557 4 года назад
I really love watching your videos because even though you are sharing your opinion you are still very polite and considerate of other people as long as they aren’t being assholes
@gabri_cheesellamasneeze9006
@gabri_cheesellamasneeze9006 4 года назад
I identify as pansexual because that's what I came out as and the label has special meaning to me. While I am *capable* of being attracted to anyone regardless of gender, I do still have gender preferences. So even though that would technically qualify me as Omnisexual, I feel more connected to the other label. That is still valid.
@erinbathie-moore8478
@erinbathie-moore8478 4 года назад
*raised hand* I am a Genderfluid pansexual. Halp!
@wooyeah1738
@wooyeah1738 4 года назад
Me though
@gretzkyyy5645
@gretzkyyy5645 4 года назад
10:14 is me with the labels of "gay" and "bi" at school *long sigh*
@nonexistenthumanbeing8869
@nonexistenthumanbeing8869 4 года назад
Wow. You look great.
@phrogi9092
@phrogi9092 4 года назад
What if we all just *vibed* What’s my gender? *vibe* What’s my sexuality? *vibe*
@juliamaria3807
@juliamaria3807 3 года назад
Yeah I just identify as bi because i can make it mean "more than 1 gender" and don't have to think about labels anymore bc i'm tired
@pterisyoung6498
@pterisyoung6498 4 года назад
this video made me more comfortable using the label bi, thank you also I want to hug you.
@linus9788
@linus9788 4 года назад
Okay, thank you so much for this, I thought I was straight but now I have a crush on my straight best friend. I was taught that being bi was a sin and now I don’t know what to do. Advice?
@cos.s
@cos.s 4 года назад
Research. Don't just look at a few videos or posts- check everything out. Get your own views, find out what you want to know. People have different points of view, no one is right 100% of the time.
@linus9788
@linus9788 4 года назад
D o D o I just don’t know who’s right and who’s wrong.
@cos.s
@cos.s 4 года назад
@@linus9788 I can't say for certain, but anyone disrespecting someone's existence isn't someone you generally want to listen to. Other than that idk man, ask a lot of people about specific things? Maybe that'll help?
@linus9788
@linus9788 4 года назад
D o D o true, it feels so natural. My parents say it’s unnatural so they can’t be right...
@linus9788
@linus9788 4 года назад
D o D o thank you so much, maybe I’ll be comfortable with my sexuality soon, I appreciate it.💕☮️
@pawnarchy
@pawnarchy 4 года назад
I'm just vibing. Y'all should just vibe. Be whatever lets you vibe.
@skiakardia3966
@skiakardia3966 4 года назад
This video summed up: Let people identify how they want. It ain't hurting you
@alecbrown7413
@alecbrown7413 4 года назад
I recently discovered that I liked all genders (cis male, cis female, trans male, trans female, nonbinary, agender. genderfluid etc.) I originally thought that I was pansexual but I don't necessarily fit into that label, I was confused as to why I didn't like it and did a little bit of research, I just don't feel comfortable with being labeled as Pansexual not that there is anything wrong with people who do identify as pan. I just really identify as bisexual. Someone recently told me (after I came out) that I can't be Bi if I like all genders, and that made me very upset because I just don't feel comfortable with identifying as Pan or Poly or Demi etc. I asked them why not and they simply responded "Well it would mean you only like two genders and besides what even is nonbinary? its probably fake" I am also nonbinary and that did indeed hurt but he is kinda right. Gender is a social construct and society has constructed 2 genders male and female and it is a working progress trying to get nonbinary, agender, genderfluid, and etc. recognized. I am not like stating there are 1000 genders im just saying if you look at it gender is a spectrum. How this falls into sexuality can be a million different ways. I honestly don't care what your sexuality is because I will accept you no matter what. Being Bisexual does not mean you only like male and female, you can represent and identify how ever you want because in the end of the day you if are happy with yourself and you are happy with whoever your significant other is (if you have one) or if you are happy just being by yourself in a big house with a bunch of animals that is cool too. As long as you aren't hurting anyone else or yourself than its okay. YOU ARE VALID don't let anyone tell you different.
@taylorrivera6013
@taylorrivera6013 4 года назад
That foundation looks great on u 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@anniesuter2959
@anniesuter2959 4 года назад
yes nick we are very proud of you for finding the right skin tone congrats :)
@ThisGirlReviews
@ThisGirlReviews 4 года назад
I personally don't identify as pansexual because I have a preference for women and I'm more attracted to women. I also find men and non binary people attractive. If I didn't have a preference I would use a different label.
@samanthashumway8168
@samanthashumway8168 4 года назад
honestly same. Bi feels the most comfortable and while I am attracted to nonbinary individuals as well as men, I'm more attracted to women.
@MB-tz8hb
@MB-tz8hb 4 года назад
I identify as bisexual and, if I’m honest, I couldn’t give you a definition, it was just the one that felt right? Idk I’m just vibing.
@y2kona
@y2kona 2 года назад
_you are NOT bisexual, you are pansexual!_ 1984.gif
@gretzkyyy5645
@gretzkyyy5645 4 года назад
Lmao stage makeup is like a different shade from skin tone so I can never tell w foundation color
@carlyoickle8250
@carlyoickle8250 4 года назад
Thank you, you just made me feel a lot better about myself
@abbyehrenstein2550
@abbyehrenstein2550 4 года назад
I wish I had this video when I was 14 and trying to figure out if I was bi or pan and then someone told me I wasn’t pan because I had found a different definition for it than them and then I went back into my cave of unknown sexuality for another 3 years
@unknowncreates6211
@unknowncreates6211 4 года назад
Summary- just vibe. Like if we could all just vibe. Sexuality-vibe, gender-vibe, attraction-vibe 😂
@bananak.37
@bananak.37 3 года назад
thanks for validating me
@audri1273
@audri1273 4 года назад
I think I fit the bill more for demi, but I learned about being pan first, started identifying with it, and then learned about being demi and poly. I was getting pretty uncomfortable when i realized that no one can dictate what I identify as, it's up to me. So I go by pan, and am happy that way.
@emilyc.404
@emilyc.404 4 года назад
hello
@marshmellowknight8429
@marshmellowknight8429 4 года назад
SOME IDIOT hola
@Sammy-yu7xl
@Sammy-yu7xl 4 года назад
Hey
@emilyc.404
@emilyc.404 4 года назад
GalaxyGirl ooh spanish
@CB-dy1he
@CB-dy1he 3 года назад
As someone who has identified as bisexual before the age of the internet and social media as we know it today... I've never switched to pan and just kept the habit of calling myself bi. So when people get angry about that, Its like 'I'm old and tired, just let me vibe.. '
@rebelpapayas6793
@rebelpapayas6793 4 года назад
The way I like to explain it to my friends is that it’s almost an aesthetic difference, but they just have different vibes and they have an actual difference but it’s hard to explain.
@romanjohnson8128
@romanjohnson8128 4 года назад
This is a good take :D
@greysimons9979
@greysimons9979 4 года назад
Another thing that’s bothersome is the opinion that pansexuality is a form of bi erasure. That’s is not true. It is just another way people can identify as, and feel comfortable using it. Just because they identify as pan/omni/etc does not mean they have anything against bisexuality. For me personally, I identify as Pan because I don’t feel a connection to the bi label - it just doesn’t fit/describe me like pan does. So yea. All in all, just freaking vibe guys. Let’s all vibe together alright? Just vibe👌
@enigmaticdreams1397
@enigmaticdreams1397 4 года назад
I use bi, but I'm not 50/50 bisexual. I go through periods of being exclusively attracted to men or exclusively attracted to women. Some period I do end up in that 50/50 area. I wish I could always stay in that 50/50 but we can't always get what we want. I'm also pretty sure I'm demisexual so it just adds to my cluster fuck of a sexuality but hey it really do be like that sometimes.
@raisin2404
@raisin2404 3 года назад
Gorgeous foundation ur rocking it
@catvictim5014
@catvictim5014 4 года назад
“Queer Theory” Or perhaps QUERY
@marcieowo
@marcieowo 4 года назад
💗💗💗I identify as bisexual because I'm attracted to all genders identies and because its a very fluid identity :)) Some people can have prefrences for only have prefrences for men and women and some may be completely genderblind!!!💗💗💗
@animeskrillex7537
@animeskrillex7537 4 года назад
I identify as pansexual due to the fact that I *_will_* develop on crush on someone despite not even knowing their pronouns or name lmao.
@nerdywolverine8640
@nerdywolverine8640 3 года назад
For the deal with "all sexualities include nonbinary people": i believe this to be 100% true. NOT "all sexualities include all nonbinary people", but all include *some individual nonbinary people* because nonbinary is an unbrella term that contains a multitude of genders, out of which some will fit under all different sexualities. Reading it as all sexualities include nonbinary people as the flat identity "nonbinary people" rather than the umbrella of some of all people who identify as nonbinary does indeed render it inert and transphobic.
@rat5800
@rat5800 3 года назад
me, doing a research project in stonewall and stopping. to watch this video: also me: *ah yes, this is research*
@charissaschoon9206
@charissaschoon9206 4 года назад
There was a point in the video where I kind of got lost, but understood most of it and I agree
@milessellami478
@milessellami478 4 года назад
what a KING
@renee9423
@renee9423 4 года назад
I went through a really fun year or four where I had no idea what to label myself, and I felt uncomfortable “picking” a label because I didn’t want to cause a fight I just wanted to set up a dating profile. 😓 I’m currently pretty okay with identifying as poly sexual after some time to figure myself out. I have to explain it to nearly every het I meet, but I don’t get instantly met with a fight about how I defined it. That said, having formerly used bisexual as my label, I think you payed a lot of respect to the intricacies of doing so and why that is what some people continue to identify as, and why some may have but no longer do.
@martam44
@martam44 4 года назад
I dont tell people my sexuality I just vibe
@namixless9732
@namixless9732 2 года назад
tbh i feel like alot of micro labels have harmed the lgbt community and forced labels to have little to no flexibility/fluidity. i feel like we should be able to have labels be fluid and leave it at that rather than try to make a name for every specific feeling of gender and sexuality. ive seen this harm the NB community specifically by forcing non binary folk into a label based on the binary. the same goes for sexuality. all in all we need to let labels be fluid
@greysmith4180
@greysmith4180 4 года назад
In all honesty, I really don't know what I am and I don't have the energy to figure it out right now so I shall simply **vibe**
@socialistwhore2132
@socialistwhore2132 3 года назад
Bisexual means attraction to more than one gender (and often sex) Queer is an umbrella term, so is bisexual 🍄🐌💚
@MiniKV
@MiniKV 3 года назад
yes yes yes yes
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