I had paid a ticket (non-moving violation no less) in Las Vegas, the clerk never put it in. I showed the cops my receipt from taking care of this, and the cop didn't care and took me to jail anyway. Almost lost my job on that (I was working as a driver). These courts should have to reimburse people for their time when they screw up that way. It's all screwed up.
tats typical abuse and it gets worse the more authority they have and they dont care since you cant sue them look at the blatant asshole CA in the ian thompson case for a stellar example
@@kindanyume You can sue governments... but you need to get permission from the prosecutor's office in order to file the lawsuit. In other words, you need permission of the person you want to sue in order to sue them.
The same thing happened to my husband. He got a ticket in Michigan, paid it, received a receipt & conformation number, and then 6 months later he was very roughly arrested for not paying the ticket & driving on a suspended license. He had to spend the weekend in that nasty jail, & no one cared when I showed him all of his proof of paying the fine. The judge acted like it was no big deal.
My dad got a bill around 15 years later plus interest for a ticket that he'd paid. He made a photocopy of the receipt and sent it in. He told me any time I give money to the government save my receipts.
I saw something like this with an electrical inspection in Grand Traverse county. The home was inspected and completed, then 15 years later the new inspector went through old files and did not find a final inspection for the house. He then went to the homeowner and told them that the drywall and insulation in the whole house needed to be removed so he can inspect it. The homeowner at that point told him to get off the property. Obviously the inspector at the time or the person working for him, did not do his due diligence and file the paper work properly.
its pencil pushers appointed and installed to such depts by the prior gov the same crap happened before in some other depts ad it was from friends of the femnazi wynne that were causing shit
More likely there have been less tickets because less people driving and less people getting tickets. The people working at the courthouse have to do something.
I paid an automated redlight traffic ticket and then a few years later a collection agency came after me claiming that I had failed to pay it. I had a folder of paperwork on the case because I had contested it in court. One of the pieces of evidence was the proof that I had eventually lost the case and paid the ticket.
Everything important should be filed away and/or scanned and archived. I have tickets from my younger days in another state that I still have digital copies of. They take up such little space, why not. 🤷♂️
@@Uberragen21 ALWAYS go the scan & archive route if the receipt or document is on thermal paper. A few years of hot summers and those receipts will be blank paper!
@@niyablake I can imagine it now, several thousand years later in an archeological dig they find a lockbox with strange documents held close to the chest by a skeleton. Their archeolinguist says it's some kind of receipt to confirm payment of a fine. They all think the hoomans were silly considering such things valuable. Only latinum and khyber crystals have value for trade, obviously.
My wife's friend has gone through this very thing. She had a moment of stupidity, got drunk in her car in the parking lot of a gas station, then decided to go home, and as she was backing out of the parking spot, she bumped an ambulance that was driving by at that very moment. She got arrested, and charged with drunk driving. Fast forward a couple months to the trial date at the courthouse, and my wife went with her to attend the trial, and she goes to check in in order to find out what courtroom to go to. Well, there's no record in the entire JeffCo court system for this ticket at all. The officer isn't in the courthouse. Its not scheduled for a different date. Just nothing. Well, that's a get out of jail free card. Fast forward a few months, and she's driving completely sober, and she gets pulled over by a police officer, and arrested for driving without a license. Apparently, the officer filed the paperwork with the DMV in order to suspend her license, but did not file the paperwork in order to have a trial on the offense. So now her license is suspended for drunk driving, but she can't get a trial for it. She had a few more court dates, and the judges have found in her favor, but the DMV refuses to reinstate her license. So, she gave up driving, and walks and bikes to work now, in order to not ever get arrested again.
The court in my county regularly "lost" records for fines paid. I had to pay twice a couple times before I got wise and kept the receipts. You still have to go to court to prove you paid though.
Got a warrant notice 8-10 years after I won my speeding ticket case.. Told the judge to go to hell.. Not my job to send him a copy of court order..he can call the county court himself.. He called back and apologize for his mistake...what I call corruption
Courts need to have a automatic expiration for things like this. It’s ridiculous to think that a ticket you received over a decade ago would affect you at all - it should be deleted regardless of whether you won or lost the case.
I have witnessed bail bond agents come an pick a guy up and take him several hundred miles to court to only find out the charges had already been dismissed.
So what happens in that situation?? Is there any recourse or compensation for the guy whose life was upended for no reason other than the bail bonds agent is a fucking moron?
I have never had a bureaucrat admit they entered anything incorrectly... it's ALWAYS a computer "glitch". Computers were the greatest invention for clerks ever as they couldn't blame their mistakes on the typewriter!
true. My brothers last name (different dad) is O'Connor. He applied for a Birth certificate and the clerk made it out to Connor and the ministry is refusing to change it saying he needs to get it done through the courts even though they are the ones who made the mistake
25 years ago I had a DUI fine I paid in installments. My last payment was $4.31. I wrote the check for $5.00, because the math in my check register was easier, and I thought ‘hey, They’ll get a bit extra, everybody’s happy, right?’ Nope, not necessarily! A decade or so later I get pulled over in the middle of the night (going home after a bartending shift), got a ticket for not staying in right lane while turning right or something stupid. I missed my payment date bc I got laid off and hadn’t yet gone to court to clear it up. A few months after that I got pulled over and I figured ‘shit, it’s probably a failure to appear, I’m probably going to jail or something’ The cop said one of my break lights was out, he just wanted to let me know. Then he asks for my license. I said that it just expired, I didn’t renew it in time bc of unpaid ticket. I said I wasn’t able to afford it but was going to clear it up now that I had a new job. He asked what I owed, I said I wasn’t sure, but probably a lot. He said ‘ I’ll check for you, be right back’ He came back and said “you aren’t going to believe this, but....you have something from 12 years ago...you owe 69 cents” It made no sense to me, then I realized that was the same amount as the overpayment I had made on the dui. The other ticket didn’t even come up, and cop let me go with a smile. It was such a weird experience. I paid it by mail, along with the $5.00 fee for not paying in person. It really chapped my hide that I paid $5.69, when I actually owed them $0! It just wasn’t worth taking time off work to drive 45 minutes each way to sit in court all day to resolve it. TLDR; Never tip the financial restitution office, it’ll come back to haunt you I’m just glad the cop had a sense of humor and I didn’t go to jail
16 years? That's not that old for a thing to come back and haunt you... My dad was once denied a permit to moor a boat because he'd once exceeded the harbour speed limit in a boat he was in charge of 30 years ago. He asked what boat and a letter came back with HMS _Invincible_ which bemused him to no end
Anchorage parking authority sent me tickets for license plates stolen off of a car weeks before I bought the car and it was reported to the police at the time, had to go to previous owner then both go to the police get a copy of the report then file complaint against the Parking Authority to get ticket dropped, months later get contacted by collection agency, another round of filing complaints with copies of all papers, Anchorage parking Authority got shut down due to these issues.
@@MrTruckerf The parking authority would put parking tickets on cars that had been reported stolen then go after the car owner that still hadn't gotten their car back, the parking authority wouldn't call the police when they found stolen cars, just put parking tickets on them.
@@ghostshadow9046 File a criminal complaint with the police against the parking authority, for aidingand abetting grand theft auto by not reporting finding stolen cars.
@@bergmanoswell879 - I'm pretty sure they'll say that when they issued the ticket, they didn't know the car was stolen, and by the time they were aware the car was stolen, the car was gone. ... That assumes they could ever find out a car was stolen, which might not be the case. The fact that the "Anchorage parking Authority got shut down", leads me to believe this was outsourced to a private entity. As a private entity, they may not have had access to information about vehicles that are stolen.
I live in Indiana and I had my license suspended for following a sheriff's advice. I had hit a deer not far from my house driving my son's car (I let him use mine to take a girl out on a date). I went back home and called the sheriff's department to request a visit so I could get a report filed for insurance. They called me back saying they didn't have an officer available (total b.s. as we live in a quiet county with not much crime) but they said they could do it over the phone. I gave my info but I couldn't find his insurance card, I said hold on and I'll go in the house and get the number. The sheriff said "don't worry about it we can get that info later". Well a few weeks go by and I get a letter saying my license was suspended for no proof of insurance! I had to get my insurance company to fill out some form and fax it back. I was pissed!
Taking legal advice from police has gotten a lot of people in trouble. A mayor in a local town was photographed at a school with a pistol on his hip and the top cop in town thoroughly explained that anyone with a concealed carry permit is legally allowed on school grounds until they are asked to leave. But the law actually says anyone can be legally armed on school grounds *with permission* and when pressed about the federal gun free school zone law he said it was a non issue because our state passed an amendment that disallows state officers to cooperate with federal gun laws. Like the Fed's need the help of state police to make arrests. No amount of argument or quotes from the actual law could convince the top cop or the rest of the people in the conversation that carrying guns on school property is illegal for most of us.
Around 10 years ago, whilst living in southeastern WI, I sold a 1999 Ford F150 and threw my old, plates with expired tags in the trash can. About two months later, I received a a notice of unpaid parking ticket(s) from the city of Racine. The ticket noted that the vehicle cited was some old 80's Toyota Supra. I called the city of Racine, and said there must be some mistake, since the license plate was associated with my old truck, which I no longer owned; which of course didn't match the VIN or any other feature of the Supra they to which they issued the parking ticket. I was told I had to pay the ticket, since the tags - though expired, were in my name. I was also told by the friendly city of Racine clerk, that I should destroy old plates from now on, and report the plates from this ticket stolen to my local police department. Well, since I lived about an hour from Racine, I reported the plates as stolen, and just paid the $150 dollar fine for parking violations I didn't commit. A local police officer told me that is was likely my plates were retrieved from the garbage by an opportunistic worker and sold on the street. Yeesh.
She should NEVER have paid that ticket again! A license suspension makes you a high risk driver and your insurance can quadruple. She should have sought legal advice ASAP.
I had one in 96 that will blow your mind. I hit a tree in a town in Illinois. The city cited me for damage to city property. The tree was on Private Property on top of it. Then the fun at court began. So the first month the court had no record of the case. Next month I find out I have to bill my insurance company myself. Next month jumped thru that hoop. 4th month I am getting tired of the city's BS said I want this solved NOW. So I say I want to take this to trial. Continued do to the cop not being there however the case before me the same cop was the officer case DISMISSED. Next month I had a copy of the receipt that showed paid to the city I had jumped thru all the hoops for the city had thrown in front of me. Well I was the oldest case at that time. I am called first finally get the same judge for the 1st time. Judge goes case is being dismissed as I had done everything the city asked. City Atty goes NO he will get his License back when I say not you JUDGE I run this court NOT YOU. Judge looks at the bailiff smacks his gavel and says CONTEMPT of court on the City Atty and take him to JAIL. He then looks at the Police sitting there and says you have 10 mins to get a NEW Atty here from your town otherwise all cases on MY DOCKET are dismissed. Now this was around Chicago in the height of Rush Hour and the town was 20 miles away from the courthouse. Then the judge started writing orders that where going to be issued for this city. After 10 mins he looked up no new Atty in the courtroom for the city he goes all cases DISMISSED with Prejudice meaning they can not be refiled and said to all in the courtroom have a nice day and court adjourned.
My wife appeared as a witness in the case, spoke to the DA lawyer and the judge. Three months later a warrant was issued for failure to appear. She went to the court and told them she had been there and spoke at length with the prosocuter that day. She reminded him of the conversation and what he was wearing. Dismissed. However it is on her record.
I was once at the courthouse with someone that was living with me. We waited and waited for her case to come up (it was set to be called at 10am we were still waiting at like noon). It never does (they stopped calling cases for the morning). So we leave the courtroom to ask the clerk where her case was we were out of the courtroom for maybe 30 seconds and they say she has missed it and there is now a bench warrant for her. Somehow after they stopped calling cases they called hers and then when she didn't reply (because we had walked out and 20 feet down the hall) decided she didn't show and put out a bench warrant for her that was in the system by the time we got to the clerk and her name was typed in.
This happened to me! The only thing that saved me is I have had the same credit card for 15 years. With a lot of trouble and roadblocks I was finally able to get someone to pay attention to the facts. I had renewed my drivers license more than 5 times in that span, and had been pulled over a dozen times. No issues in till the last stop, the officer let me go for 3 mph over, but then pulled me over again 2 miles later to tell me my license was suspended. It was almost impossible to get master card to go back that far in my credit card history, and luckily I actually had my credit card statement from the month in question 12 years prior. They still made me pay 75$ for reinstatement, but they thought they had me for thousands, and was reluctant to give up.
Keep those receipts. Steve you're absolutely right. I spent a couple of hours in a holding cell at the age of 24 a speeding ticket that I paid for when I was 16. It didn't get copied correctly so the next time I got pulled over they took me to jail for a bench warrant. Because I didn't have the receipt oh, I had to pay the fine again and it just caused a big mess.
I was an idiot when I was 16. I paid with cash and assumed it was over. This was a small town and there was only one Clerk. Eventually it was discovered that she had screwed up several peoples tickets and some of the cash payments were never accounted for. I didn't really bring that part of the story up because it wasn't relevant to this. The point is keep your records.
@@1stupidfish If you paid in cash and got no receipt your money went straight into that @%*$%"s pocket! Paying in cash is OK but you MUST get a receipt. Good luck in the future!
My own crazy experience with screwed up and incompetent court clerks involves me with jury service. I was selected for jury duty and was diligent in terms of filling out the various forms to be called up and serve my community as a juror. I followed all of the instructions as carefully as I could, and this particular state level court had a phone system to call in to verify if you were going to be serving the next day or not. . So I called into the automated system, and my jury pool had been dismissed, or so I had been told on the phone. The next day the judge shows up in court with the prosecutor and the defendant, but no jurors were available in the jury pool for them to select for the upcoming trial. So the judge issued to me and all of my fellow jurors a contempt of court charge where I had to report to court to explain my behavior for not showing up to a proceeding that I was told not to attend... all because the court clerks couldn't figure out how to tell the system that we needed to show up and attend. After wasting a day in court, the judge finally did dismiss the contempt charges... but I wondered why I was even charged in the first place? Looking back now at this situation, it makes me wonder if I might **still** have a contempt charge outstanding because the court clerk was so incompetent to not record this properly either. The whole incident made me really detest any sort of jury service, where ignoring the next jury summons turned out to be a better and frankly safer alternative. There was no real apology, or thanks for service, or frankly any consideration with an utter contempt by the courts of any jurors. That my liberty could be put in danger simply by trying to do the right thing by serving my community makes me really want to encourage anybody else to avoid jury service if at all possible.
I save all legal paperwork and receipts. FOREVER. I also pay by check. I also was taught to write the ticket number on the check. Thanks for your news and information on your channel. Fred.
Spent time in jail because I mailed in a ticket and didn't get a receipt. Also NM extorted $70 to "clear" me for having my license canceled 20 years earlier because I surrendered it to get a Texas license when I moved to Texas.
That license surrendering thing? I’d havesent them a page with nothing but the letters h and a on it in response “HAHAHAHAHA” etc. They can’t do anything to you for something that happened in Texas.
I have been stopped and put in cuffs before over a unpaid ticket. But i happened to have the receipt in my wallet and it saved me. This was only 9 months later.
Had something weird like that once. I had gotten a ticket for speeding, paid the fine, got the receipt. All good. A year later, I renewed my D/L for another 4 years. All good. Just before the next renewal, I was buying a rifle at a gun show, vendor goes to run the background check. Failed. What happened? All he could tell be was that my license was suspended, no idea why. Next day, I go to the local DMV, lady at the counter says, "yeah, it's suspended for non-payment of a fine." What fine? I only had one ticket in the last 15 years. She tells me I have to go to the county courthouse to find out. Okay, walking distance of about 4 blocks, nice day for a walk. Stand in line, get to the clerk, she says "No, that one was paid." Then what ticket are they talking about? She says "I'll need their copy of what they are looking at." Back over to the DMV. Same lady, finally gets the print out. Back to the courthouse. Clerk again says, "That one was paid, there shouldn't be any suspension." She gets ahold of her supervisor who checks into it. Turns out, there was an employee who had been fired, and threw out all the files on her desk, including mine. The files were found a while later and then entered into the system. Unfortunately, they missed a few things, like notes about the resolutions and who paid or didn't pay. I had gotten my renewal done about a week before this happened, and never got a notice of suspension. So I had to get a document saying I was never suspended, got back to the DMV, they reinstated my license at no charge, and since I was due for renewal in a couple of weeks, got that taken care of that same day. After about seemed to be ten miles of walking . . .
I'm dealing with this same thing now. I got a speeding ticket in 1997 in Atlanta. I paid the ticket, plus I had to go to driving school over it. Fast forward to 2020, I've now been living in Illinois since 1996. I went to renew my Illinois license and was told they can't renew my license because Georgia put a block on my license for the ticket in 1997. Now Georgia wants me to pay everything all over again as well as take another driving class for a 24 yr old ticket that was settled 24 years ago.
I was taken to jail 4 years after I paid a non moving violation ticket. I was pulled over for a tail light out and that was the first time I was informed that the payment was never applied like it was supposed to be... I had to pay over 3K to get out of jail and pay a bunch of bogus late fees and to get my license back!
I wish the rules weren’t so flexible! I can do what I understand to be correct and still get in trouble... but if I was a politician I could get away with damn near anything. I can’t wait till the US splits more than it already has and we have two “United “ states of America.
I had a friend get a ticket in small town Arkansas. He paid the ticket and they gave him a receipt for the payment. A while later he found out there was a warrant out for him on an unpaid ticket so he went up there and showed his receipt and they refused it and made him pay it again or go to jail. The problem with it was the city does not use numerical logging on the receipts and they don't have a city stamp on them. they just use an off the self plain receipt book you buy anywhere.
When i was 21 I had an outstanding ticket that ended up with me receiving a letter from DOT saying if i didn't take care of it in 30 days my license was being suspended. So i panicked and took care of it. Thought nothing of it. Registered my vehicle just fine, no red flags anywhere. First day of a new job on my way to work I get pulled over for loud muffler. Get arrested for driving while barred. Confused as hell. Come to find out when i first got my license they made two files on me. Suspended on one for the ticket. Ok on the other. Everything but the police used the good file. So arrested, lost a good paying job before i started, and my vehicle towed for a clerical snafu.
That happened to me in 1990 from a ticket in 1987, ticket was for proof of insurance, I mailed the proof in to Broward clerk and forgot about it, in 1990 in NC I ended up paying for it 3 times before that clerk got it right. And later in the news how that clerk screwed up thousands of cases because of backlogs and I get it on my records for losing my license and lost my commercial license
Steve, as you know, it really happens. Back in the 80s, I knew a guy who had 8 or 10 separate charges on the docket. Most involving an orange Dodge Charger. These were the times when the docket was printed out by dot matrix printer on fan fold paper. (This becomes important in a moment) I had gone with him to court, partly to make sure he got there, but mostly to bring the car back if he got locked up. He showed his proofs of registration, license and repaired headlight, agreed to traffic school for something else and a persistent nuisance fine. The judge dismissed everything else - he paid the fine, and fees for traffic school that night. Maybe a week later, we're out and get pulled over for the bench warrant issued for failure to appear.... Long story short, one of the charges had been missed when the clerk was entering dismissed/valid on all of the "other" charges that the judge had dismissed. He had drawn a long bracket from end to the other, but the charge missed was obstructed by the binders being used to hold the docket of fan fold paper together. They locked him up, and it still took me hours to get it fixed.
Watch out for Google Drive, they are shrinking the number of free gigabytes, and will erase stuff if you are over. I think they include old emails from gmail in the count.
The real story is, "Zombie Ticket's, just when you thought they were dead. They come back to tear up your life. Don't forget about tickets, they can not forget you."
Years ago when I was getting my security clearance for the Air Force I had to deal with a parking ticket that a police officer had written saying that I had parked in a no parking zone. The only problem was that on the day the ticket was written my car was in the shop getting repaired and could not have been parked where the officer said it was. I ended up paying the ticket, it was only $35.00, and that was the end of it. I did file a complaint with the court but never heard anything back.
I have a very large file of scanned documents dating back to the late 90's. This saved me from a bad debt collector who was trying to say I left an apartment in bad condition some 3 years after the fact( I moved out in 2001, they contacted me in 04). I had a video file of the apartment walkthrough and a copy of the release of the security deposit. And the idiots still reported me to the credit bureaus. A phone call to the apartment with some harsh wording and the proof was enough to convince them it was in their best interest to get it resolved, and they did.
I suspect a lawyer that specializes in debt collection stuff would have LOVED to go after that debt collector. If you had that sort of evidence and they put shit on your credit report after you informed them of such things. I believe it would have been a fairly easy case.
You know what the worst part of that is? That now, we all have to think like bureaucrats, documenting EVERYTHING we do today in the smallest detail so somebody can't pull a fast one on us two decades from now.
@@Melanie16040 Do you know how I can find such a lawyer in NJ? I know someone who has had her insurance pay a bill from a doctor's office. Office keeps sending invoices and has sent collections to a debt collection agency for this paid bill.
Shows how broken the justice system is alll courts need to have video recording for every case and clear transcripts and there is a statute of limitations that needs to be held to.
Had a weird deal like that when I went to renew my DL in Utah a few years ago. Apparently the Homeland Security effort to dredge and combine municipal databases had unearthed an improperly closed ticket in Illinois (from 24 years earlier) that was hung up on an improperly reported speeding citation in Wyoming (from two years earlier even than that). Keeping in mind that I had successfully renewed my license multiple times before the DB-dredge fiasco---and that I hadn't had an Illinois DL since the 1990s---that sudden roadblock was...inconvenient. I spent three days on phones getting agencies to communicate with agencies (and paid several document processing fees) to get that cleared. Ultimately, the original citation could not be found, so the whole cascade failure fell apart under its own weight. Gotta love the the bureaucracy...
Local and state governments are really hungry for money right now, more so than usual. (The public really needs to watch out and be careful, some of these local governments are really getting predatory about it.) And a lot of states and municipalities are trying a new thing that is being talked about in some of the government employee chat rooms, a government worker who comes up with an idea on how to generate more fee or tax revenue or how to collect old revenues better can get a commission or a bonus, depends on the government, and those payments sometimes aren't reported the same way as salary. Anyway, I think some smart staff person figured out they could blast out a bunch of these knowing nobody has documentation from sixteen years ago, and that people would, like this lady did, simply pay the fine even tho they didn't owe it because of the hassle they knew would be involved, and the government department didn't care about any downstream consequences for anybody outside of their department. I would bet that this is not the only lady in that province this has happened to. And I bet there is an office somewhere in that province that threw a big pizza party for some staff person for coming up with a way to generate new income. Government employees have absolutely no actual duty of due care under the law, They don't even have any duty to be honest under the law, if you are a victim of government employee incompetence or even malfeasance, you might get a fee restored or a decision sort of reversed after a lot of trouble, but you are still stuck with all the costs of dealing with it and with the consequences of whatever the government employee screwed up or intentionally did. This won't get fixed until both the government entity AND the individual government employees have some downside, face some sort of liability, for the consequences of their incompetence or crookedness. Putting an incentive in place which might encourage it like a bounty system or a commission structure, which is what I suspect happened here, recklessly exposes the public to danger, and the people who came up with those systems should be dealt with accordingly.
You would think there would be some limitations because of how old the fine is and the fact they didn't try to collect. Kind of unfair that you are expected to keep receipts for 16 years.
I had a similar issue with the IRS. They told us we owed money based on unreported income. when I asked for proof, they sent me a printout from the computer. When I asked where this info come from, I was told this is what was on a supposed 1099 form. When I asked for a copy of the form, I was told they are destroyed. So now the only evidence was the comuter.
Of over 60 times I've been pulled over. At least two times because mistakes by the DMV not entering registration properly. Also a policeman miss types my liscence plate and angerly asked why I had a sedan's plate on a truck. Also pulled over for old plate on a pickup bed trailor, a d he flipped on his light before relishing it was on a trailer not my truck
I paid a ticket @ a police substation, was given a receipt. And went on my merry way only to get pulled over in a different state & arrested for the unpaid ticket. I had to hire a lawyer to go into court with me & explain it to a judge what had happened. The judge told me that the substation was not supposed to take my money. But the receipt I had ended up saving my @ss. I still had to pay for the lawyer, but I had to pay for a reinstatement of my liscence. I could have fought it in court, but it was cheaper in the long run just to pay the stupid thing. For thier screw up. ALWAYS KEEP RECIEPTS FROM COURT.
Steve, another good idea, is to go to the website for the state a person lives in, and check their driving record from time to time. That's provided that state gives you that option.
Statute of limitations applies to crimes that are “unsolved” or otherwise not resolved. IOW, no one has been charged with the crime yet. A ticket is a summons that says “you’re a suspect, you’re being charged with a crime, get thee to the courthouse.”
@@rapid13 - Thank you. That makes complete sense. Might have helped, if I'd ever gotten a ticket, eh?! Maybe I'd know.🤣🤣 Wait, did I just jinx myself?☹
@@rapid13 most tickets are civil and avoid a bunch of protections under the constitution federal and state, why wouldn't it have a statute of limitations at worst it's a debt owed that is now 16 years old and should be uncollectable.
@@plangelierwot Re-read my comment. Also, the claim that “most tickets are civil” may or may not be accurate, but I doubt it. They may be infractions vs misdemeanors or felonies, but they’re still criminal. And once you’ve been convicted, no statute of limitations applies.
In 2013 I was being deployed to Afghanistan. I set up automatic payments deducted from my paycheck to child support so I didn't have to worry about it while I was gone. Came home and the Army just kept paying and I didn't stop it because it was just easier. Then my daughter turned 18. I tried to get the Army to stop paying, and they wouldn't. I would get a check from child support stating I no longer owed the money, please stop paying. The check came in before my actual paycheck was posted. This went on for a year and finally, I got the Army to stop paying them. Child support then saw I stopped paying and canceled my driver's license without notice. I didn't know for about a week and the only way I found out was child support sending me a letter they had done so in error, and I had to go to the DMV to get it reinstated. I often wonder what would have happened if I had been pulled over during that week.
Happened to me in the Army. They make you clear out of every building. So I had to go to the police station and check myself out of the system and there was a 4 year old ticket. It was resolved 4 years ago but the police had it active. The cop told me he was giving me a warning but he decided to process it as a ticket. I was never told. It was a mess to clear it out.
I got a ticket in 2008, paid the fine, then got pulled over 2013 and got my car towed and charged for driving on a suspended license. Nobody told me why it was suspended and it took me weeks to try and figure it out
I was in a different, but similar situation. Missouri used to send random letters to drivers demanding that they send in proof of insurance. I got a letter telling me that I had failed to reply to just such a letter and my driver's licence was now revoked. As an aside...all correspondence from this story was sent via normal USPS mail. No tracking...no signatures.. Alarmed, I call the number on the letter and they tell me that if I send in proof of insurance and pay a $25 fee I can get my license back. I follow their instructions and in a week I get a letter telling me my license is reinstated. Fast forward 6 years... On my way to work, I get pulled over because the officer didn't believe the plates on my customized car went to that car. (??!!) Exact quote..."this doesn't look like a Lincoln to me." We get that straightened out, he issues me a ticket for driving on a revoked licence. Whaaa?? I take the ticket and get to work and call to see what happened. Sometime in the past 6 years, they did an "audit" and my paperwork was missing a policy number so they revoked my license...and never sent me notice. I had actually renewed my license in that time period and it was a COMMERCIAL DRIVER'S LICENSE!! I explained it tp the judge and he told me to get a lawyer, It was my responsibility to know if my license waa revoked....🤦🤦
Ive been here before and learned a valuable lesson in 1008 I was charged with verbal assault. When i went to court after the hearing where i plead not guilty my accuser was not present, found out afterwards from a friend she was to high to make it to court that day. Court dropped all charges and I thought i was a free man, I didn't keep the slip given by the clerk thinking why bother. In 2017 I was arrested on a bench warrant for failure to appear in 2008 for assault. Case went the same she didnt show up and it was dismissed but the fact that I had to redo it 9 years later really stung
We just did this with my daughter. She had a fine to pay and waited until the week before court appearance to pay it. I told her whatever you do be sure and keep all documents related to it. Especially the receipt where she paid it.
Happened to me. After going to court numerous times back in 1992 for no seat belt ( court wanted me to plead guilty to jaywalking cause I wanted a trial) I was found guilty. I paid 75 dollar fine and kept the receipt for 10 yrs. After the 10 yrs, I threw the receipt out with other papers from the file cabinet. (law states you need to hold records 7 yrs) in 2011 I got a notice my lic was suspended for non payment of a fine. I went to the court and they asked if I have the receipt? I said are you kidding me? I kept it 10 yrs but threw it out finally. They wanted me to pay an additional 75 dollars. After seeing the judge, he dismissed the suspension and marked it paid. I still have that receipt lol
But how long would you hold on to a ticket receipt or judgement statement?? If people don't keep CC statements or even IRS filings past 7 years... who is going to keep anything, put someplace secure, filed properly in an organized system, and not purged, lost, stolen, or destroyed during moving homes, floods, fires, police raids, SWAT bombardments... it's just 1 thing too many!!!
Wtf why are judges writing anything by hand these days? Or even 16 years ago? Jeez guys, word processors aren’t that expensive nor were they in 2005. They should use biometrics to authentic the judge for critical data entry input like this.
My ID was used by my sisters ex 20 years ago. I get warrants in the mail and I had one place that wanted to cancel my DL. They were in no hurry to resend the cancel, so I could have been in a lot of trouble for no fault of mine
And in all fairness it was through no fault of the system. Why aren't you seemingly equally mad at your sisters dishonest ex. He's the one that caused your problem.
@@mikeslater6246 I disagree because some police called my dad and confirmed they had me to find out they didn’t. Why didn’t all the other cops do the same? He didn’t have an ID of look like me they could have got my DL photo. They were lazy and didn’t care and it’s the worse dealing with them to get it cleared after 20 years it’s still going on.
They did a similar thing in NJ years year ago. I live in Pa and worked in NJ as did many coworkers . NJ was broke and stopped many coworkers who had paid tickets years ago and threatened them with jail. Many paid up to $500 to be able to continue on with their lives ! I only saw and heard of this happening to my Pa. coworkers !
I believe that what you're referring to was when Newark, NJ tried to collect on tens of thousands of parking tickets in the late 1990's. After this, NJ passed a law that mandated a city in NJ had 3 years to collect such a ticket's money or it couldn't be collected. There were hundreds of cases where people had proof that the tickets were already paid. Kept receipts more then 10 years after the original incidents.
Steve, Couldn't the court check back on the 2004 records to see what happened in the court case? In my younger days I had many cases dismissed because police didn't show up I asked once and was told to get out by the judge.
What I get from this is that they must not have much to do if they have to check back 16 years for unpaid tickets. Is Canada crime free now? 🤣🤣🤣 Cheers, Steve
In 2013 I had my CA license for twenty years renewed every four years no problem then one year the dmv told me I couldn’t renew my license until I paid a ticket I got in NJ back in 1988! That was a crock of s**t if you ask me.
Always keep your receipts, especially when dealing with the government or courts. I had a roommate who had his license suspended when he was 13 for driving without a license. The ticket was paid, the court ordered the license to be restored (when he could get one). When he was 19, he was ticketed by a cop for driving a go-ped (under 49cc, no license needed) in his own driveway. His name came up as STILL suspended. The DMV could not restore his license with the court order at the time because he was too young to have a license.
My husband was arrested when he was a teenager for an unpaid speeding ticket. He had paid it and kept the receipt, but it was still in the book the police used back in the day. He was released after providing the proof, but how many were arrested and didn't save the receipt? I would think a lot.
I received a parking ticket in NYC despite the vehicle being legally standing with 2 people in the vehicle. I challenged the ticket via NYC’s automated ticket challenging system and despite photographic evidence clearly showing the vehicle was legally parked, the vehicle was found guilty. Despite being found guilty when it was legally parked I paid the ticket via USPS Money Order. About a year and a half later I receive a default judgement for more than the original ticket amount from NYC Traffic Court; I challenged the judgement pursuant to the appeal process with the USPS receipt showing the payment of the ticket to NYC. I received a notice from the court that the default judgement was sustained and a notice that I owed the original ticket charge, a late fee, and a court charge. I used to live in the city but now live upstate, this kind of crap is one of the reasons why. I refuse to pay it again and simply don’t understand how a receipt from USPS isn’t enough to demonstrate that it was paid but I assume NYC just wants more money. As a LEO I’m familiar with just how bad court records keeping can be but this just seemed to be either incompetence or corruption for both clear photographic evidence as well as a receipt of payment to be ignored. I started in law enforcement 20 years ago with the NYPD and used to keep a disposable camera in my glove box in case of an accident or parking ticket error; a camera/photo saved me more than once from a wrongly issued ticket but then I was there to argue it in person.
16 years is nothing. I have kept a ticket from the 1970's and another one from the 1980's, for just this reason. I kept the tickets until a search of my records were performed 2 times after the ticket was issued. If a search by an officer comes up empty twice then I am reassured that everything has actually been taken care of correctly. These tickets were kept in my wallet until just a few years ago. Like you said, people make mistakes.
Amazing the power the clerks have. I got a ticket many years ago (before computers) and went in to pay it in cash before I went on deployment. The clerk reduced the fine to the minimum "because I took the time to come in" and marked it "paid in full". I guess I should have kept the receipt but I haven't needed it yet.
This has happened to me, I was in a DOT weigh station and I found out my license was suspended from 2 tickets that I had paid for back in 2009. One was Chili Town and the other Rome.... (I Received one on my way to Buffalo, received the other on my way home). Who keeps a receipt for 12 years?
I had license issues similar. it was a 30 year old DUI case that caused me all sorts of problems. let me clarify....the DUI was 30 years ago and I am still dealing with the aftermath of it.
About 15 years ago in Virginia my CDL was removed, not suspended, I was classed as unlicensed according to my dispatcher, just as though I never had any license in the first place. The problem is that Virginia, because of my diabetes, required physicals to be filed with DMV in addition to me carrying a DOT physical certificate. I had gotten the physical information filled out by my doctor and mailed it, USPS registered mail, to DMV. When I called, the clerk acknowledged that they now had the record but that because it did not arrive on time I had to come in with my birth certificate, and a bunch of other paperwork to get the things reinstated. Of course this was going to cost me at least a day's work and a bunch of fees for their mistake. Luckily I had the delivery notice with me and it showed that it had been delivered two days before the due date. The lower-level clerk still insisted I had to come in. I asked for a supervisor and was told she would tell me the same thing but I insisted that she be allowed to tell me that. Luckily I found some sanity in Virginia's DMV. The supervisor recognized the mistake, and told me she personally would take care of it within the hour. My dispatcher was able to get back into the system 2 hours later and found that I now had a valid Virginia CDL. There is some sanity in government if you look hard enough.
Being from Canada know I’m gonna say it’s probably more of a case of human error entering an old ticket information in the system. Because it’s automated from when the officer processes the ticket to hit your drivers license within days and within a couple months for your insurance company. This is an absolute Covid nightmare for this poor woman.
I had to show the police ID as I was a witness to an accident. Officer (a friend) said hey your license is suspended, did you know that? I didn't. Turns out a car of mine used by my sons girlfriend had been in an accident and I was never told about it. They suspended me as the owner 3 years past. When I called DMV the lady said the suspension runs out in eight more days. You can pay the fine and reinstatement fee or wait eight days and just pay the reinstatement. I choose to wait.
Problem is in Ontario if the case is tossed you do not get any paperwork from the court unless you order the transcript...in Ontario the ticket does get attached to the plate and you cannot renew the plate until the ticket is paid.
Always ask or accept the offer to get a receipt. My personal files go back 20 years. Receipts are a contract. I keep most contracts that may be influential down the road. I went to court 15 years ago and still have the paperwork in my files. CYA.
If an important witness no-shows on a summons, they usually get a failure to appear bench warrant for wasting the court’s time. Unless they’re a cop. Then they get a continuance or a simple case dismissal. So if you’re ever in that situation, and have time to cause trouble, ask the judge if you would end up with a warrant instead of a continuance if you no-called, no-showed on a summons, and maybe mention the equal protection clause.
I'm in Alberta Canada and if you have unpaid tickets you can't renew your license without paying the tickets first. I really don't get how this could happen since I assume it's the same everywhere in Canada.
It is highly unlikely to be a transcription error how Steve suggested. Her license should have been suspended automatically by the electronic system if a ticket is not paid in time. That would have happened 16 years ago. I can't imagine how a clerk could transcribe "case dismissed" for "guilty, payment deferred for 16 years." The error must have occured at a later stage in perhaps a database error?
In Florida you have 30 days to turn in your tag if you sell your car and or drop your insurance or your license will be suspended..When I turned in my tag..DMV lady cautioned me to keep the tag surrender form..If you buy another vehicle later they will give you a new tag at no cost but if you keep it over 30 days without insurance..First suspension is $250..Second is $500..😔
