@Ev I agree that someone can improve themselves and talk about past mistakes. But the group think of the internet would absolutely destroy someone over casually talking about how they used to shamelessly throw out hard-R N-words.
@@ev304 given the choice of person to idolise, you have: Person who used to be a massive racist, at a time when that was not socially acceptable, but who later realised the error of their ways Vs Person who has always been disgusted by the idea of racism. A bad past can be rehabilitated, but you're never going to completely get away from your past. You have to admit it, own it and accept that it is going to be part of how people assess you as a person. Linus would not have been served well by being saddled with a racist past he didn't actually live through purely through a euphemism confusion.
Luke just saved Linus' life, his empire, his legacy, lukes own job and the job of every single employee at LTT with one question. God fuckin bless man.
@@OldSchoolDudeGaming if by cancel culture you mean "consequences for saying the nword" then sure I guess the consequences of his actions would be detrimental!
For a pointless conversation. Yeah, people say retarded. Why make it this rant where you're censoring yourself? Canadian logic, trying to signal virtues to others while unintentionally being racist.
There needs to be a software that delays the stream by like 10 seconds, and gives a window for the streamer to hit a button which blacks out the screen and audio. News agencies do this to try and stop gruesome footage from going live.
@@henryordishit definitely could have been, I guarantee Linus of all people has one at the ready. I feel like the fact he didn’t black out the stream speaks volumes to how he didn’t even realize how what he said sounded.
An entire action movie in 2 minutes. Everyone in that room collectively lost their shit, saying their goodbyes preemptively, and collapsed in relief. What a joyride it must've been.
Do people really do that? I see people not wanting to be canceled because companies cancel sponsorships. What I don't understand is why they cancel sponsor to appease vocal minorities that might not even buy their products. I understand not wanting ti associate yourself with hate speech, racism and such, but most of the time the canceling is over something so minor or out of context I'm just amazed they continue doing that. Or companies trying to do games and series target at those vocal minority and the product flops. It's like they want to actually lose money just to make a point.
@@jonathankitchen2202 yes, in the case of the video, if it was the n word he used to say, it would be bad, even if it was more common in the past, it shows racist tendencies of the person using it. What I was saying was that context matters and even if they slipped a bad word regarding gays on an online game (a place where rage takes place), people just assume you are this monster for saying something once (most of the time others showing your line without context) and don't give you time to explain yourself.
I missed this. This spotlight was stressful .I couldnt remember it. I never took it this way - but my wavelength was along with Linus. So hearing you lead the perception really shows how easy misinformation can spread when in the absence of Luke.
Luke genuinely just saved the entire LTT brand, if Luke didn't ask Linus to clarify what he meant right there in the moment literally no one would have believed that excuse.
Facts tho if they didn't clarify it during the show and waited till after the damage would have already been done. I can already see how some people will just see the one segment and not the entire clip. Hopefully he doesn't get too much hate for it.
@@ZombieBacon13 People see thi one segment because creators everywhere are sharing it. They all says shit like "oh he's a great creator" and all, but they are quick to talk about cancelling anything...
idk, even in the 2000's i dont see american dad using the 'hard R' i understood what meant what he meant though i see why people could confuse his terminology
@@tylerdaniell2270 No. Haven't you heard? He's got controversy related to accuracy with the ltt labs and some other saddening stuff. The OP was talking about how he actually managed to ruin his career (possibly), not about him saying the hard r.
@@tylerdaniell2270Not saying it, but he managed to ruin his career fr. Tbf it likely is recoverable. At least the accuracy stuff is. The workplace abuse stuff depending on how things turn out, might be harder to recover from.
Im not even Canadian and I think the same thing, like it doesn't even make sense, calling it something like a "Hard N" would make more sense than just R word
@@vault6242 hard R refers to when someone pronounces it with emphasis on the R at the end, which comes off wayyyy more aggressive and hateful than how a black person would say it casually as if it ended in an A.
Dude imagine if Linus never clarified and actually got canceled for it, then came out apologizing saying he actually meant to say the other word. Nobody would believe him LOL it would be the end of him.
@@dragon_ball_sucks_video ... Also try to go out and find an activity you enjoy so you can make some friends. There are better and healthier ways of getting attention from other humans than trying to bait people in random RU-vid comments.
Linus's co host single handedly saved so many careers in just one second. If the podcast had just ended with him saying he used the hard R often. Twitter would have wrecked Linus and no "sorry i did'nt mean it that way" tweet could save him.
@@nerfret "why give words power" mfs when they have to communicate using a common language where words have connotations and are meant to communicate good and bad things:
@2freeIvX I mean that’s only cause it doesn’t sound as cool as n*gga. Like saying “what is up my homie” vs “sup homie” it doesn’t roll off the tongue as good.
@@pirilon78 I think it's stupid. In some sense people never are going to lose their license to carry guns, if the words are worse than bullets. I'm never going to understand fully what or why it is like that, so that people can hurt themselves? If it's going to hurt others then people are going to come up with something that hurts others anyways. How many millions of years it takes when no words are left, because everything has been used as a weapon. I just find it stupid. Just take the freedom of speech away, and lets dedicate our conversations to fill out forms and such. Way to avoid pain. I understand, but oh my god... At least let it lose its potency and meaning, but keep the history of stupidity of humanity intact. I don't know. I kinda feel scared for it.
The scary thing is, had Luke not raised the question in that moment, any clarification coming from them after the blacklash would have felt like disingenuous PR jargon
I was thinking the same at first. But the fact that he mentioned older shows and specifically American Dad would have saved him in the eyes of anyone with a brain capable of realising that early 2000s shows did not in fact use the hard R casually.
shouldn't even be a big deal, no word was actually said and even if it was said, it's a word. Our generation needs to grow up. Literally if it was such a huge deal for people to say "hard R" then it should be illegal for everyone. No more rappers using it, black people can not use it. So RETARDED.
@@crunch9876 Tell me you don't know anything about the current state of the world without telling me you know nothing about the current state of the world
@@crunch9876 when it's a company that relies very heavily on its brand image (which is centered around linus) it can actually have a pretty significant effect
This is all dog shit. Only because people participate in social media cancel culture is this a problem. Normal human beings would go “huh” and that would be the end of it. But everyone buys into a shared reality where this dumb shit matters.
@@Sporomaniacos Yeah same, I didn't even know that there was a distinguishing difference between different pronunciations of the n-word. The whole time I thought he was talking about the r-word and wondering what the big deal was considering he was correct in it being a more recent cultural change XD
I also had no idea the hard-r actually meant that. I did always wonder why some people called it that instead of just the r-word. Now I know, and it only took Linus nearly destroying his entire career to find out. Thanks Linus!
what linus means was not that word apparently, he used the old mocking words and it was popular back in 9gag meme era back in 2010, what he meant "hurr durr" which used to mock people for being/saying idiotic things. it sounds similar actually, that's why people shocked
@@prohanta9360 im pretty certain linus was just referring to the r-word. hurr-durr is definitely not really known anymore, only people that i know who use it are usually in their late 20s or 30s lol. but since linus was talking about shows from the early 2000s, im sure he meant the r-word in the way of derogatory term for intellectually disabled people.
Tbh his audience would probably understand. It’s not like he’s just a mainstream influencer. His persona and target demographic keeps him in the clear. I’d believe him.
@@q6x This is exactly what People constantly forget in these situations. It's advertising money that sends you into 7 and 8 digit figures in content creation environments, unless you're making material for direct subscribes (and even making that kind of money in that way isn't remotely easy). Without that advertiser cosign doors stay shut. It doesn't matter if you have a million eyes on you, unless they're the ones paying you, which often isn't the case. It's companies paying to have a million eyes on their product or service. When you work in this sector the end game is to be a billboard, and no one wants their ad on a billboard in the wrong side of town lol.
It’s crazy how one word can now ruin your career. Modern society is so cringe. This one word in specific when there’s many other ways you can represent yourself as being racist but as soon as you say the forbidden word suddenly you are instantly racist. No, no forget any other of the million ways to be racist with more than just a word. I really think people are drones nowadays and or use it to easily, I mean easily denounce someone’s rep
Linus needs to give Luke a raise; like he literally saved Linus’ career by interrupting and having him clarify. Had the stream ended and backlash came, recovery would have been too late.
I went years of my childhood replying to people don’t ask don’t tell, when asked why I don’t open up much. Didn’t find out what that meant till college.
Imagine Luke didn’t step in there and the audience was left to assume what he meant. If he said he didn’t know what hard r meant after backlash it would come across like such a bullshit excuse to anyone who doesn’t know Linus Luke deserves another raise
@@marcopololos GamersNexus did a full video on it, including a lot of great investigative journalism on their part. Check that out if you're interested.
I wish he did not ruin his career. I am pro Linus. But he absolutely did ruin his career. He will never be look at the same by many viewers and creators.
I mean Linus is right, Humour from the old 2000´s was way better since it wasn´t woke whatsoever, Take for example "Air Afrikaans" A old south african comedy where they made jokes of black people, vegeterians, karens and terrorists, Today this would not be accepted and instead be cancelled, So i dont see why he would need to make a apology
for real, this shit was a nexus level event and we live in the timeline where linus's company DOESN'T implode over the "hard R" incident, just a few words different and we'd be in that timeline
I can't believe we live in a universe where Linus has said the words "I dropped my fair share of hard Rs". Luke had to do a hard reset on his brain after hearing that
Bro I laughed my ass off at Lukez visible concern while trying to figure exactly what the fuck he was talking about, followed by a complete mental reboot after the "I dropped my fair share of hard R". Whole thing was hilarious
I don't get what the big deal is. All he said was that times have changed. Like, just kind of an obvious thing to say. Not sure how it's offenseive. He's right, people used to say retard and gay right and left.
Linus is too genuine man, I would hate to ever see this guy fall. He is such a solid dude. I'm glad he clarified himself cause he would've been crucified on Twitter and all over the internet.
I feel like he made the situation worse lol. Like is nobody listening what Linus is even saying ? Gay humour tv shows dropping Ret paladin in middle of the sentence. N word has never been ok to say with or w/o hard R. So what is the next word that has become not okay to say in public recently but was widely spread before ? Ret**d. Dunno feels like every1 only head the hard R part and not the rest of what he was saying
Luke actually saved poor Linus here. If he didn't get the chance to explain himself live , that wouldn't have gone down well. Even if he tweeted after the stream saying it was a mistake, he'd still be pretty fucked 🤣 he comes off pretty well here bless him
Can you imagine if Luke hadn't caught it right then and there in the live stream and Linus tried to give that explanation after the stream. It would've been disastrous and no one would have believed it.
My word, Luke's genuine state of silent shock through that whole thing was so painful to watch. He clearly couldn't believe a word of what was coming out of his boss's mouth right in front of him.
@@toll5320 Well, haven't we all had "that" conversation with a close friend or relative at some point? You know the one. The one where they go: "Remember a few years ago when everyone wasn't so uptight and it was okay to say the n-word?" Where you go: "... Excuse me, what?"
@@toll5320 I think that's part of why Luke shut down briefly after Linus admitted to "using the hard-r" casually. I can imagine his brain just firing all synapses at once, replacing that hamster in the wheel with a roadrunner, frantically trying to recall a time where Linus was ever even implicitly racist, and then finally going "fuck it, I have to get clarification. This is either going to drive the knife all the way into the collective heart of our careers or there's some weird misunderstanding and Linus is too pure for this world." Lucky for them it was the latter, but the relief on his face when he confirmed that was so palpable.
Nah it would have been fine. It was pretty obvious from the way he was talking that he wasn't referring to the n word. Basically all the points charlie made that the n word was not in casual use on tv in the 2000s and the word he's actually talking about starts with r. Most people would have believed it even after the fact.
Yeah, I think a lot of fans would - I'm not really a "fan" but I'd believe Linus to do something goofy like that. But they'd definitely lose a huge portion of casuals
@@1986fritzthecat I immediately knew what he was talking about just from his tone, but hard-r is used to distinguish the n-word's two forms: more or less the softer reclaimed version, and then the hard-r. xD R-word would be the disability slur. Or it'd be hard-d I guess. Which wouldn't fly at all either.
He sure does Clearing this misunderstanding right on the spot and saving the day before it's too late to convince everyone it was just an honest mistake
What insult is a 'hard R' rtard? I'm confused? I don't have the greatest of imaginations but I can't think of any insult that starts with an 'r' except Rtard. Nope. Is there a way of me learning this without it being explicitly stated? lol Edit: Nevermind it was explained obviously. Thats a stupid way of phrasing nothing lol.
Imagine if they never clarified what linus meant for the whole rest of the stream and only tried to clarify after people started freaking out online. No one would've believed linus at that point, and he would've been canceled for sure. Luke totally saved the company right there🤣🤣
Why for the fact that people don't know the the Hard R is. Nowhere did I ever think it was for the nword. The nword is the nword. The Hard R is kinda what it is
@@legomenjj what most black people say is the n word that ends with a soft ‘a’ sound. This is commonly understood as acceptable to say among black people. Ending the n word with a strong ‘r’ sounds is something mostly done by racists and ignorant people in order to be demeaning and rude to black people. The strong ‘r’ sound is also described as hard, hence “hard r”.
