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Lionel's Operating Milk Car - Simple, Fun Operation 

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Episode 121: Is this the best Lionel operating car of the Postwar era?
In this episode, we take a look at what must be considered the most successful operating car in Lionel’s Postwar era. In terms of catalog longevity, ease of operation and maintenance, and the all-important fun factor, Lionel’s milk cars reign supreme.
But the story of the milk car begins with another operating car - the #3454 Automatic Merchandise Car.
The 3454, cataloged in 1946 and 1947, used an ingenious mechanism to open the door of the O27 boxcar and fling miniature crates of Baby Ruth candy bars into a trackside bin - or, depending on the track voltage, BEYOND the bin. The crates were loaded into the car through a hatch in the roof. As the operating button was pressed on the special operating track - a #6019 section for O27 operators or a UCS section for regular O track - the pickup shoes under the trucks completed a circuit to an electromagnet connected to a ratchet and pawl system inside the car. The crates slid down a loading chute one at a time and landed in a rectangular launching seat. Pressing the button once opened the car door and simultaneously launched the box of candy. Releasing the button closed the door and reloaded the mechanism for the next launch. The original crates actually had “Baby Ruth” inscribed on them - reproduction crates generally do not.
There was also a #3854 merchandise car in 1946, using the same mechanism but in a scale-sized, Prewar carryover boxcar. These are very difficult to find today.
While the #3454 was fun and worked well, it was missing a human element. So, beginning in 1947 Lionel’s design team changed the mechanism slightly by adding a human figure that pushed metal milk cans out the door and onto a trackside platform and, like the #3454, used an undersized O27 boxcar. Original cars came with either 6 or 7 cans, depending apparently on the whims of the production crew. Operation of the new #3462 required the same UCS or #6019 track section as the merchandise car. The #3462 was produced in 1947 and 1948. Later, Lionel made subtle changes to the inside operating mechanisms of these cars, creating the #3472 Milk Car made from 1949 through 1953, and later the #3482 for 1954 and 1955. There are subtle differences in the appearance of these different versions, such as white plastic or unpainted aluminum doors and type of trucks, but the basic operation of each of these cars is identical.
In 1955, the mechanism of the Milk Car was moved into a near-scale refrigerator car that better matched Lionel’s line of #6464 boxcars. The #3662 operated essentially the same as the shorted milk cars, except another mechanism change, allowed the action to occur at a slower pace than on previous models. As a result, the milk cans supplied with the #3662 were non-magnetic, unlike their predecessors, as the slower speed allowed them to remain on the platform without the assistance of magnetism. #3662 cars were offered off-and-on through 1966 with only minute changes.
In 1959 and 1960 a special version of this car, the #3672, was decorated for Bosco syrup. This attractive yellow car features a special matching platform as well as special yellow cans with Bosco markings in red. The attractive color scheme and unique style of this car make it very attractive to collectors, but the operation is identical to the #3662.
While Postwar production of the various milk cars ran from 1947 through 1966, the cars mainly went on hiatus from then until the new millennium, with the exception of a few limited runs. However, the cars found new life in the 2000s as Lionel has made a number of versions, from Postwar reissues to Christmas Egg Nog cars.
Lionel Polar Express Hot Cocoa Car: amzn.to/3tu9NCG
While #6019 and UCS track sections have been out of regular production since the 1960s, Lionel makes a FasTrack section to operate these cars today - although it will set you back $40 or so for a single piece of track!
Lionel Fastrack Operating Section: amzn.to/3E4AmTJ
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@calbob750
@calbob750 Год назад
Back in the fifties a Lionel train, track and transformer and a 4x8 sheet of plywood with a few plasticville buildings could occupy you for hours.
@TrainBandit
@TrainBandit Год назад
I have a lot of people beet on small train layouts. I was entertained by Lionel trains on a 3x4 board lol. Let me tell you a 4x8 was a dream
@frankmarkovcijr5459
@frankmarkovcijr5459 Год назад
Imagine that with a 3D printer you can make parts for 70 year old toy trains. Simply Amazing.
@JonBrooks105
@JonBrooks105 Год назад
Specifically the later, bigger car pictured. Works perfectly every time !
@MattTheLizard
@MattTheLizard 8 месяцев назад
More great info! You sure know how to plan my shopping and hobby time, Thanks for uploading.
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks 8 месяцев назад
:-)
@mikereynolds1845
@mikereynolds1845 Год назад
Once again a great video, now I want one too. Thanks my friend.
@frankmarkovcijr5459
@frankmarkovcijr5459 Год назад
I think Baby Ruth wanted money from Lionel trains to use their trademark so they just made the crates blank. If I remember right on the old Baby Ruth crate it was stamped into the plastic of the box, it wasn't printed on it if I remember right.
@kennethcapps3696
@kennethcapps3696 Год назад
I currently have a 3472, it is definitely a very cool addition.
@cathrynm
@cathrynm Год назад
We have the 'Lionel Cola' car -- it's shoots out little jugs of 'Lionel Cola' -- a little goofy, but it works good.
@markslioneltrains
@markslioneltrains Год назад
Great History on these cars.! Really enjoyed the video Mike.! 👍🏻Thanks
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks Год назад
Thanks!
@frankmarkovcijr5459
@frankmarkovcijr5459 Год назад
Let's not forget the older milk cars in the real days were 36 ft long. The handling of milk cans what discontinued because of the amount of Labor to clean the can to make sure that it was no residue of old milk inside it. That's when they started to use the big milk tank cars. So use of a smaller car is in fact prototypical of the time.
@frankmarkovcijr5459
@frankmarkovcijr5459 Год назад
Milk cars like that were run at the front end of secondary passenger train unless they had enough to make a unit train of milk cars but that's where they had the bigger tank style cars. When the car first came out the man had flush painted face and hands and the rest of him was painted blue then they stopped painting him.
@CrazyBear65
@CrazyBear65 Год назад
We had one of the milk cars when I was a kid. I think we had the mail car too, and the cattle car. My oldest brother (RIP) was born in 1948. The Lionel trains were mostly his. My other brother was born in 1953. Some of the cars and one engine were his. I was born in 1965. I had a cheap Marx trainset, which was compatible with Lionel, but as I got older I realized that I preferred the HO scale trains, as they were compatible (scale) with Hotwheels, Johnny Lightnings, and the Aurora slot cars. My brothers eventually sold all the old Lionel stuff.
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks Год назад
Thanks for the story. I talk about Marx on this channel as well.
@plunkervillerr1529
@plunkervillerr1529 Год назад
Prewar Marx guy here, it`s not easy finding 6" tin box cars with sliding doors. I value those that I have. Keep on plunking along.
@mikepasko7493
@mikepasko7493 Год назад
Very good information...thank you
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks Год назад
Thanks for watching!
@brandongaines1731
@brandongaines1731 Год назад
When you explain the mechanism involved in the Merchandise Car, and especially the way to un-jam the Milk Car, I'm reminded of one of only two different types of truly operating rolling stock that I've ever owned in any "scale" - the Great Railway Adventures Baggage Car (The other one is the Great Railway Adventures Pipe Car). GRA was an unfortunately short-lived, early aughties joint venture between Lionel and Learning Curve, the folks behind Thomas Wooden Railway at the time. They had a separate track system from TWR, but the locomotives and rolling stock were compatible with TWR, BRIO, and other wooden trains - the track was, too, when using the matching pair of adapter tracks available separately or in later trainsets. The GWR baggage car (which was later redecorated as an Ice Car with different cargo pieces) used a knob on the roof to both open the doors - there was a door on either end - and to move a sliding mechanism inside against the end wall inside of the loading door; turning the knob the other way would both close the doors and advance the sliding mechanism. To unload, the doors were to be opened, then a button on the un-doored side of the car would launch one piece of cargo out of the unloading door. Closing the doors would again advance the slider, advancing the cargo pieces so that the next one would be in position. A skilled user could pick the car up and tilt it slightly in order to load all 5 cargo pieces without having to close and open the doors multiple times, but if they messed up - or if the car was tilted the wrong way while loaded - then a jam was more-or-less likely, and the unjamming process was pretty much the same as with the O-27 Milk Car, only you had to find a triangle-head screwdriver of the proper size, first.
@dougb9327
@dougb9327 11 месяцев назад
I jamming this model requires that you take the shell off. The model I have has 2 metal u shaped “springs” that hold the shell on. Pop the springs off and the shell lifts off. Next would be locate the screws (mine has 2) and remove them. The top piece lifts off and you can remove the stuck cans. Note that there is a short metal rod on the rear of the mechanism which runs vertically to the plunger (at the top) and slides into the arm which moves the milkman - that plunger might slip out of the slot. Just make sure that it’s back in place before the top is screwed back on. Good time to also look at the wiring, I had to replace the wires from both trucks due to very bad cracking.
@brianmuhlingBUM
@brianmuhlingBUM Год назад
I am glad I bought several of these before this excellent video demonstration hit the RU-vid screens, because they will now be costing more on eBay. Get in quick!
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks Год назад
:-)
@OgaugeTrainsplusslotCars
@OgaugeTrainsplusslotCars Год назад
I have that milk car👍♐️
@donaldwiller9238
@donaldwiller9238 Год назад
Great information 👍
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks Год назад
Thank you!
@averagerobloxian9077
@averagerobloxian9077 5 месяцев назад
It would be really awesome if Lionel made a version of this car in which on the other side where there is no mechanism, it would have the same function as the icing station car, so that you could use this car with the icing station or the milk platform and it would be really good for small layouts or havinga package with all three items
@frankmarkovcijr5459
@frankmarkovcijr5459 Год назад
My dad had the Bosco car on his way out in the basement before the divorce. He bought it because he knew I loved Bosco syrup. I think the can for solid Brown if I remember right. Forgive me if I'm wrong.
@jkorling
@jkorling Год назад
Good video with helpful tips, all of which I've used with mine, including using dedicated power to the operating track accessory; and you definitely can get fairly smooth operations of the car at lower voltages. Only one minor thing you left out in the tutorial where you describe removing the screws to remove the body shell to unjam the milk cans but you have to also unscrew and remove the top cover on the shaft that holds the cans since they're enclosed in the shaft with that cover on. Other than that minor omission, great job!
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks Год назад
Thanks for the feedback! Great tips!
@user-zv2qv4wy7w
@user-zv2qv4wy7w Год назад
Great video. Recently acquired the 3462 automatic milk car and 3656 operating stock car. Connected both to the layout and the Grandkids and I had a wonderful time seeing what new way the cattle would make a mess of it (a lot like real cattle), and watching the little man fling those cans. "Ferocity." That's a good word.
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks Год назад
Great fun!
@frankmarkovcijr5459
@frankmarkovcijr5459 Год назад
You should have a milk truck parked next to the unloading platform
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks Год назад
:-)
@frankmarkovcijr5459
@frankmarkovcijr5459 Год назад
@@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks I have some milk trucks for the 1950s from Diecast Direct. It has a crate of milk bottles and a milkman. The back doors of the truck open up so it can look like he's loading it up. If they still have anymore that is
@paulbervid1610
@paulbervid1610 Год назад
Great video
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks Год назад
Thanks!
@frankmarkovcijr5459
@frankmarkovcijr5459 Год назад
Before trains in the big cities after they made beer they fed the grain cows who made milk. The milk came out blue. When the railroad started running milk train then you could get fresh wholesome milk. Another benefit brought about by the railroad
@ItsCheetahTV
@ItsCheetahTV Год назад
When I first saw this car, it blew my mind. Didn't know it existed until recently since I'm young of course.
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks Год назад
Happy to help!
@GuntersGarage
@GuntersGarage Год назад
Good video thanks. I recently in the last year got back into collecting Postwar Lionel. I just picked up the milk car and platform as well as the cow corral and unsure how to operate them.
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks Год назад
Thanks. I also have a video on the Operating Stock Car. The cows are much harder to keep adjusted properly, but they're fun when they work.
@frankmarkovcijr5459
@frankmarkovcijr5459 Год назад
I had one of those because I loved Bosco syrup when I was a kid. I mean my dad had one of those on the layout but he bought it for me because I loved Bosco syrup it was so good. Everything was so good back then maybe not everything but most of it.
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks Год назад
Cool story! Thanks for watching!
@frankmarkovcijr5459
@frankmarkovcijr5459 Год назад
In the old days all station wagons and all pickup trucks used to be able to hold a 4x8-ft plywood with the door closed behind it. That was the ambiguous size of a layout whether it was Lionel or American Flyer. When you talked about finding the American fire Caboose and your other video I got an American Flyer streamlined Baltimore and Ohio steam locomotive and it had the weird American Flyer coupler on the back I had my training guy cut it off and put a Lionel coupler on it and he said there goes to collector value and I said fuck the collector value I want to run the engine and have it pull cars. What's great about the older engines is that you can oil them and clean them and when they need parts you can get parts I bought a Lionel fa that ran from the Train Shop and it gave up the coast and when the mechanic took it apart the bronze drive gear was completely worn down no teeth. That means some kid got that locomotive for a birthday for Christmas and he ran the wheels off of it and enjoyed the hell out of it which is what it was there for. I miss today's when you would get the Lionel and American Flyer catalogs and you would sit on the toilet in the bathroom and go over all the Fantastic trains that they had there. My dad had a layout in the basement to the house in New York that was so big you have to walk across it he would have five engines on the head end at 100 cars. When they got divorced my mom made him take down the train layout because she didn't want me to have a relationship with my father cuz she was a bitch. And she was a psychopathic child beater I suffered so much in her hands but the train lay out was in the basement and she didn't like to go in the basement so that was my refuge. At least it was for a while. I had a fantastic dream way out when I was told to move home to take care of my mom and in spite of my being legally blind and Medicare saying that they couldn't take the house the nursing home went to court got a guy and took the house and I had to take down my beautiful layout when the real estate agent came to the house and said oh you took down your train set I could have killed him.
@johnstrand7456
@johnstrand7456 Год назад
I had the milk car as a kid in 1950 - never was able to make it work correctly - but I still have it in the box lol
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks Год назад
Check the contacts on the pickup shoes. These are actually pretty reliable.
@georgebenson6036
@georgebenson6036 Год назад
Enjoyed the video as always. I have thought about getting one of the latter day re-issues of this car but just never have. I hope the UCS sections are reasonably available at shows?
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks Год назад
I see UCS all the time, but you have to wire them yourself. I will be redoing my video on the control tracks in a few weeks with simplified wiring.
@brandongaines1731
@brandongaines1731 Год назад
Ending at 11:09, when you talk about using Accessory power to operate the Milk Car - I'm guessing that that trick will work with the Merchandise Car, too? Just thinking of a way to keep the Merchandise boxes from flying too far (no personal experience with this, but you did mention it earlier in the video, and I'm sure that trying to locate overflown miniature plastic boxes gets pretty annoying after a while).
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks Год назад
Correct. It will also work for the merchandise car.
@brandongaines1731
@brandongaines1731 Год назад
@@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks thanks! On a related note, does the FastTrack operating car section come pre-wired to use accessory power to operate the car? I don't see why not, just hoping to confirm one way or the other.
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks Год назад
@@brandongaines1731 I would assume so, but I have never actually seen one - only in the catalog.
@frankmarkovcijr5459
@frankmarkovcijr5459 Год назад
It is a shame that Lionel did not provide enough milk can to fill up the car. I wonder if he sold more cans separately so you could put more in the car?
@johnknippenberg-LandmarkYards
Very cool. Would this work for unloading milk cans onto a passenger station platform as well?
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks Год назад
A standard Lionel passenger platform is lower. The man will kick out the cans wherever you like, but if you want to keep the cans upright your platform needs to match the bottom of the reefer door.
@johnknippenberg-LandmarkYards
@@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks Thanks!
@benjaminhunt2395
@benjaminhunt2395 Год назад
pick a post war one up didnt think it be this much lol
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks Год назад
Whatever you paid, it'll be worth it! :-)
@railchief74
@railchief74 Год назад
I need to find the room on my train layout for my milk car
@huntercoleman460
@huntercoleman460 Год назад
American Flyer also made an operating milk car. The way you load them in is much more finicky than Lionel’s.
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks Год назад
Good to know!
@bobainsworth5057
@bobainsworth5057 Год назад
The most sold car in Lionel history.
@frankmarkovcijr5459
@frankmarkovcijr5459 Год назад
Imagine living in America where you could just walk down to the toy train store and buy whatever you wanted and it wasn't super expensive collectible it was just a regular toy train made in America cuz everything in the old days was made in America cuz America made the best of everything. People say Lionel was too expensive for people yet you see all of the people who had Lionel layouts in their basements and they outnumbered the people who had O scale two rail TC layout because Lionel was so much less expensive. Plus you can run marks trains on it as well. I did the ho thing for 20-30 years scale everything blah blah blah and it's like when my eyes started to go bad and I started I bought my MTH subway car set and I figured well three rails is okay with a subway car set even if it's not outside rail. And it just expanded from there track was cheap and you can buy a whole box of Mark stuff for almost nothing. I was once in train land in Brooklyn and I was talking with an old guy about trains and how I got picked on because I played with trains and he said you tell him that trains are for tough guys too and if they don't like that I'll come down to the school and kick their ass. He was Frank Sinatra. When I came home my mom said oh God more train crap and I said well Mr Sinatra said blah blah blah and she goes Frank Sinatra yeah did you get an autograph I said why is he somebody famous. To me he was just a train guy. He told me about the old Lionel train layout that he had in his family's house in Hoboken and how when he went to do a show in New York he would have the driver take him to Hoboken and he would be in his family's house running his original layout. In trains magazine they had a great big thing after he died about his layout in California that was his side of building designed to look like a Lionel train station. He had a lot of everything MPC included. A lot of guys hate NPC just like the old Harley guys hate AMF Harleys but if it wasn't for AMF Harley would have gone under and would not exist today and if it wasn't for General Mills buying Lionel and running Lionel for 20 years out of Michigan we were not have Lionel. Of course I have no use for a four unit set of Lionel locomotives made in China it was all these electronics that cost $2,500. It's a shame Williams trains is it around anymore they make great locomotives for good prices and when training land had a bargain sale I loaded up on anything I could. Air trains I could actually take apart and Lube the gears and put back together and nothing gets ruined. With o gauge 3 rail you're not really so concerned about scale Fidelity you're more or less have fun like when you're a kid. I don't get into the switching I just fire them up and let them run.
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks Год назад
Cool story.
@classicalvintagecollector
@classicalvintagecollector Год назад
The car that I purchased is extremely clean as far as rust goes and the mechanism moves really smoothly. There's a little bit of drag on the nubbin that rubs against the surface plate; otherwise, things should move smoothly... But they don't. The solenoid does not seem to have enough magnetism even at 18 volts. The old wire insulation was cracked, so I resoldered some new wire to it and it still does not seem to solve the problem. The spring creates too much resistance for it to even move the milkman. Without the spring, the milkman will move slowly and eventually unload the milk can. Should I replace the solenoid or is there something more that I need to know to get this thing to work properly? Thank you.
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks Год назад
I'm wondering about the solenoid. Does it move freely? If so, it's okay and the problem is elsewhere. If it binds, it probably overheated at some point and is toast.
@classicalvintagecollector
@classicalvintagecollector Год назад
@@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks Yes, the solenoid moves extremely well. There seems to be drag on that plate that is riveted to the front of the car, The plate just under the man. That seems to be the culprit but I can't imagine that it would produce so much drag that it would cause the plunger not to go in all the way.
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks Год назад
@@classicalvintagecollector Hmm. I'll have to think about this one. If the solenoid moves freely don't replace it.
@classicalvintagecollector
@classicalvintagecollector Год назад
@@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks By the way, thanks for answering my question so quickly. What power source do you use?
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks Год назад
@@classicalvintagecollector My platform is connected to the second-highest (11v? Maybe 12v) constant voltage lugs on a Lionel 1033.
@genesissamuelsoares1167
@genesissamuelsoares1167 5 месяцев назад
Does the fast-track operating track work with all models? I bought the milk car 6-9220. It did not arrive yet. I just would like to know which one should I buy. My current setup is with fast track.
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks 5 месяцев назад
This is what you will need for FasTrack and the Operating Milk Car: walmrt.us/3S4RdwS
@genesissamuelsoares1167
@genesissamuelsoares1167 5 месяцев назад
Is the platform compatible with fast track?
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks 5 месяцев назад
@@genesissamuelsoares1167 Ah, I didn't think about that! You will need to transition to O or O27 track for the platform and use a #6019 (O27) or UCS (O) section. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-P0cG9u5TrkU.html
@JonBrooks105
@JonBrooks105 Год назад
Modern Era #6019 Is 6-12746.
@frankmarkovcijr5459
@frankmarkovcijr5459 Год назад
The old milk cans had little square magnets inserted into the bottom of the can to make sure they stayed upright. I hated the cheapening of Lionel trains because it degraded the quality of the product.
@frankmarkovcijr5459
@frankmarkovcijr5459 Год назад
If they had magnets on the bottom they would stay upright shameful cheapening on Lionel's part
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