those joule numbers are where the Byrna LE is supposed to be. Salt Supply S2 is doing what the Byrna LE advertised to do (but byrna failed at it), and they are doing it at $200 less than Byrna. Byrna should be ashamed of themselves.
I still love Byrnas trigger pierce but their launcher is over complicated and non serviceable to the end user which hurts big time. Salt did well with this launcher making it inexpensive and easy for the new to LTL crowd to get started.
@@jeremywilson6938you are likely shooting a Byrna Kinetic 2.9g ball. These Salty balls are 3.7g in weight which affects velocity but in most cases delivers more energy on your intended target.
@@jeremywilson6938very hard to believe as everyone who does chrono vid tests on YT demonstrate a huge drop in FPS after the first shot. The first shot gives over 400 FPS, yes, but after that its a big drop off. And I am using byrna kinetics 3gram rounds with their CO2.
Awesome test! I took the liberty to check your average 6 round joules on your second test using the Grimburg projectiles and compared it to my test using Byrna projectiles. Your average = 17.71 joules, mine = 17.85. Even with different weight and size projectiles these markers are spot on! The Byrna LE is all over the place from marker to marker it seems, the SD is Byrna’s most consistent in my opinion. Thanks for sharing!
Well thank you for doing that average. There are no fancy regulators or springs inside this Salt. Just a chamber valve and a bolt which should provide consistency launcher to launcher, co2 temp probably bring ming the largest variable.
Just ordered one. Was looking at the Byrna LE but after seeing several youtube reviews of comparisons, I went with the Salt Supply S2 for 200 bucks cheaper.
You wont be disappointed and in the small likely hood you are, Salt stands behind their products fully. It has been uber reliable even after i have been poking and prodding at its insides…it still charged and fires everytime.
Hey Sean love your videos! I just got my Salt Supply S2 on Friday love the power. The one thing I am getting used to is how BIG the grip is. I was getting aggravated by having to put it on safe to release the mag so I removed the interlock arm in the marker and now I can pop the mag out any time.
Awesome. You think this grip is big 🤣…try an FSC. Did yours come with grip tape? I did try removing the interlock at least on my first version and it would occasionally spit the magazine while under firing so i reinstalled. It does offer addition securement to the magazine. I would keep an eye on it if that starts happening.
@@lesslethalfordummies I really really wanted an FSC....but the fact I could not find a 12gr mag for it made me give up on it. My S2 did come with grip tape, the good thing is when I pealed half of it off to open the marker it reapplied nicely. As for the interlock I have probably gone thru 10 co2's so far without issue. The one other thing that's a bummer is mine shoots Really high so the fixed sights are useless. Fortunately I was able to put a laser on the pictainy rail so I'm glad they included the rail.
She sure is a nice shooter. Need more markers to degas like that. If you run that holster as an edc, you shouldn't have much discomfort or 'pokeyness' since it's an OWB💥💥💥
That was really cool of them to send you the real deal. I hope the mods you did on the other one work just as well in the S2. It's a shame that they could just stick another jar of Kinetic rounds or even the practice rounds in the kit since they can't send the Pepper rounds. Looks like two 5 round mags are the limit of the CO2 if you want safe stopping power. I'm looking forward to seeing the LTL Charlie when it becomes available as I really like the Bravo. The two biggest upgrades I've heard about are that it'll load like the S2 now which will much faster to change mags and it's s going to be hitting harder 20-24 Joules instead of 18-21 Joules. Sometime simple is rhe best way to go so it doesn't break as easily and is easier to upgrade 😋
I agree simple seems to be the best in this market. Many are new users and dont need to be discouraged or overwhelmed with tuning a launcher. Ill have to have a closer look at LTL lineup when the new one is released.
@@lesslethalfordummiesSad news... I got an email from Chiappa and the LTL Charlie release has been pushed back to mid summer they hope. Apparently the production model had issues they didn't like so they are working on fixing those issues before they release it to the public. It's good they caught the issues, but it's sad they had to delay it 😔
Great video. Welcome to the S2 family! I got mine back in February after watching Jon Renolds review on his channel. Depending on the day this or my FSC go in my work satchel and the other stashed in my vehicle for backup. It’s weird how you had no grip tape on your launcher. The tapes ok, but I have a Houge grip coming from Amazon when they are back in stock. DK makes a good point about that grip added to the S2. Try not to break it like he did his first one.😂
My LE is my normal EDC but this Salt is winning me over the more seat time i get. Seeing its construction internally also gives me good vibes. Time will tell but so far so good.
@sheidbrink at this point i still carry my LE but i do plan on switching up for a bit. The S2 is a bargain and does out perform some of the LEs i have seen chronod.
Im definitely gonna buy that gun soon, I don't care about some airguns channels that say it's cheap, and it jams, Ive seen nun but good luck with most videos I've seen on dis gun, I was almost against this s2 but I think they just had a defective one and talked bad on them!
Major problem with mine. Very difficult to get the magazine out of the launcher. At first it would shoot out. Now, it gets stuck and I have to slap it on the side a few times to get it out. I think the magazine spring is cheaply made, especially as compared to the Byrna which has been flawless.
It is a pretty cheap little mag ejection spring. Eject the mag and have a look inside. It may have completely fallen off. I would send an email off to Salt and see if they can help.
@lesslethalfordummies , thanks for the heads up! I will check them out. I searched high and low in the Toronto area, and no one was carrying Salt. Then I went onto Salt's home page, and they said they are not selling in Canada. Keeping my fingers crossed.
cool, but I'm not seeing huge differences from the "preprod" model (trying to be respectful here). perhaps an extra spring or lever in the mag eject and/safety with one minor cosmetic change on the exterior to protect the safety (and a touch of paint). all good ideas, however, I believe more innovation could have taken place for the American market since the power and reliability seems to be the same as the first - waiting on the next vid to compare internals! these .68s are massive and don't do it for me as carry defense. tried the LE with the bellyband and it felt ridiculous! uncomfortable all day for an average of a whopping 12-14 joules. risk/benefit doesn't play out.
Well i can say after fighting the early models ejection problem, this is an improvement that i would take any day of the week. Everyone always complains about the size of these 68cal pistol. It shoots a near 12ga projectile via air in a hand held form. All launchers still require a barrel of sufficient length to keep them in a useful range of velocity and internals to suit. There are physical limits to how small it can be made and thats just the way it is. Price point and reliability are whats going to win over the crowd. At the end of the day no one wants to send their launcher in for repairs and based on what I have seen i dont think they will, or at the very least could perform the repairs themselves. Launchers dont last forever without some form of maintenance. Plan is to have the disassembly video up before the end of the weekend. 👍🏼
Do you have to use silicone lube? I just received mine earlier today & fired 6 rounds straight out the box… I didn’t put any lubricant in it like you did.
Heavier weights tend to carry the most energy into the target. 10g Riot Balls and 8g Grimburg Juls are my favourites. I did just test some 7.5g aluminum balls and they did quite well but jury is out because they can become unusable if just practicing with them. There are so many types but those 3 above are some of the roundest balls. Many other balls have visible seams which can affect accuracy and power.
You can get Riot Balls and Grimburg Juls from Less Lethal Defence (Homewreker) or buy Grimburg Juls directly from Grimburg Less Lethal. Both companies have websites. I would avoid buying Riot Balls direct from Riot Ball as you usually have to buy 100 or more and that can be expensive.
I have a Byrna LE, considering a S2, but I realized I'll have to find another video to watch bc you used some slang regarding the name of the second projectiles you received and I have no idea what they are or what you called them (inerrts, inners?) I can't just guess at what you're saying for 15 minutes. Maybe as you discuss a particular item- say what their real name is and what they are. Deuces.
@@lesslethalfordummiesHey Less lethal for Timmy's. I just contacted Salt supply thru the link you have attached to this video. And they're saying they do not ship to Canada. So how is it that you got one ? And how do I get one in Canada?
Whats great about the Hdr is being able to shoot shaped rounds without a worry and plenty of upgrades. Until Umarex comes with an Hdp68, the S2 is the answer.
@43BRADBURN43 12 and 16 are not the same. 16 are longer and in the Salt the co2 is required to be completely enclosed in the expansion chamber. You can put the cap on.
My OCD is next level. I would lose sleep about projectiles. There are some people in the Facebook groups making amazing looking projectiles using marbles. If i were to make any projectiles it would have to be the all seeing 👁️ 😂
