Joe, there is no failure in this video just another story everyone will be laughing at later in life. This is what we all love about you, most people would have never even thought about posting this but all your fans feel like we are there with you and enjoy this. Thanks Buddy!
Wonder how many of the backseat drivers, commenting, have rode a wide track tank in those conditions. Sure if you have the room, throttle and momentum are going to help. I have a Skandic SWT, and it is great for the most part. But deep powder, and tight places is not it's strong point. It just pushes into those ditches and tree trunk holes. Sometimes you have no choice, but stop and regroup. Not easy to tilt 700 lbs of sled with a 24" wide track. Now my long track trail sled, that's a different story..... stay on the throttle and sashay your way through the tight stuff. Try that on the Skandic and won't be long, you'll be buying hoods and bumpers. I think you did great Joe, especially for just getting used to a new sled. Thanks for sharing the experience!
Dont forget momentum is your friend . Keeping your speed up and thumb on the throttle to keep you moving. And dont stop until your turn around and you are back on your track love your videos
Love your vids. We have to break trail like that often in northern Ontario. Try not to stop and slow down. A lil more speed will keep you on top of the snow. Standing and leaning the other way as it’s trying to pull you. You def have the right sled for breaking trail.
@@JoeHollandFishing! Doesn’t take long to get in a bad spot especially with a big sled like that! Those narrow trails are tough, snow piles up in the middle and it’s a Battle to stay on the trail!! I’m in Vermont but have property 40 miles south of moose head. Would love to catch up sometime for those monster Brook trout! Will
You can't stop and go like that. Just go. Literally just go. Don't stop. You have to stay steady. And most importantly is to keep the skis up and the easiest way for that to happen is keeping on the throttle. You definitely gained more confidence as you went.
Thank you, Wish I could have kept it going but the slopes and side slopes were sending me quicker than I could correct. I am learning though. Advice always helps!
@@JoeHollandFishing love watching your adventures Joe. You've got the same passion for ice fishing as I do. Nothing like waking up on the ice in the morning.
Good learning experience on your new machine. Best powder sled I ever had was a 1972 Elan 252 twin . Thing only weighed around 250 lbs . Never got it stuck . Last year I bought a Tundra and was happy with the performance in deep snow , but I did have to relearn old techniques.
I live here in Millinocket. Can leave my garage and hit the trails. I have the same expedition as you 900 LE. It was really tippy out of the dealer. Lowered the limiter strap one notch. Put the wider slip on skis on. Much better !
Unbelievable how much snow the 20" track will plow through! Those other sleds would still be stuck in there if you didn't pack that trail. Love the growl of that 4 stroke!!!
Go Donnie go. Plowing threw that snow bank. Wow I didn't think you guys would make it threw. Ur snow machine is a beast. Great video. Looking forward to more vids. Cheers.
Hey Joe, I grew up on sleds, you'd be better off just hammerin down keep your speed up and float it like a jetski, they seem to do better in deep snow that way. Good luck, Mike
Those Expeditions are pretty sweet sleds. When you hit the slush, I was like; giver!! Don't let up in that stuff! Hopefully my next aled will be one of those. At least a Tundra minimum. Unreal how much snow you guys got there. Here in Northeastern Ontario, we barely have a few inches but I'm sure that'll change shortly.
HI Joe! You might remember me from year or two ago. I advocated for the Expedition. I have the same model 2020. I've lived and learned just as you have ref capabilities of sled. Going a bit faster and shifting your body weight from side to side as needed will keep you going in deep snow. Very wise decision to break trail first before pulling gear. I could actually feel what you were experiencing. Been there done that in Canada, WI and Northern MI. Been stuck a time or two or three but always managed to get out on my own. You are one tough bugger... And great friends. Hope you have an awesome season. And thanks for vids. Tom
Great effort and it looks like it will be worth it! I am looking at sleds and the expedition is on my short list. It might have jumped to the top after seeing you put it through the ringer. Good stuff!
Yeah don't be afraid of some throttle to get it to level out! When ever you let off that front end will just dig right in. Takes time to get used to it you'll get er
Joe, try rotating the throttle toothed front and operate it with your finger in the tight trails. I know alit of guys who do that with the 4 stroke. Way easier to keep it smooth. Also low range in slow, small trails will help you out huge. Pop it back into high for open roads, lakes and that sort of thing. The transition to riding a 20" track sled takes some time.
Not as easy as it looks, go out on the lake and turn the opposite way you want to turn, and pull the sled down then turn into the corner. And try some skins on your skis to try to keep the front end up. I broke trail once from the lake house all the way to the trains after a 3ft storm went off the packed trail into the deep stuff many times. Found a lot of slush on the far end of chamberlain lake. Nice sled. look into a snow jack, it's saved me many times when I'm solo on my rmk. Definitely a work out and a half for us older guys.
Joe, great video, couple tips from a Canadian boy with the same style of sled (2017 1200cc Ski-Doo Expedition WT): Momentum is key in that type of deep snow condition, keep a steady pace and you should plow through just about anything. If and when you do get stuck (happens to me too!) the easiest way out is to clear the snow in front of the skis (if they're under the snow) and clear out the snow under the belly pan in front of track that is causing the sled to hang up and track to spin. If you can get that first 12" of the track to grab it will often walk itself right out of those situations. Also, low range and sport mode works best in wet sticky snow conditions (need the torque), high range regular/sport works best in powdery condtions (keep that track spinning at higher speeds).
Another classic episode, Joe. They say, if you don’t get stuck, you ain’t doing it right.😂 By the way, Lobster wasn’t named as such based on the claw shape. I’ll tell you more sometime of the history and maps. But it’s ironic the shape turned out to match the English given name once surveyed. Same goes for Moosehead, it wasn’t given that name for the shape - they didn’t know the shape back when it got the name. The Native Americans had their own names for each and these names are not translations either. Long story.
Quick piece of sled advice…snowmobiles need to be counter steered like a bicycle or motorcycle…push left bar go left. Seemed you were fighting her…she’s certainly not going to side hill etc like a two stroke but she’ll go
@Joe Holland Fishing you're welcome! I'm new to your channel and I missed you when you were close. I'm in Northern Minnesota (Missouri transplant)... so I found your content to be fascinating, informative and challenging as well. Your 100hrs alone in the frigid temps is terrifying (toothy fish too)
Joe, let’s make friends. My husband and I just bought a camp out there on Lobstah! We’re also starting our own channel soon here which will be about our small farm here in Greene, ME and our remote adventures up north in Lobstah Township.
@@JoeHollandFishing if I could attach a photo, I’d show you my awesome 20 yr old daughter catching a giant brookie out there. Over 5lbs. She always outfishes everyone, every trip, any season. Lol! She uses a pink pole with a bobber too. Ha!
Watching you break trail with bare hands and the skills of a toddler on a gt snow racer had me sick. I had to stop watching for a while but some how Big Joe always gets his fish! Hope to meet you some day!
@@JoeHollandFishing that’s true . I love my expedition . My brother and I put Simmons Gen 2 10” skis on as well. Unreal floatation and steering, it’s like the front end is on rails. Especially breaking trail in tight areas. Turns on a dime because of the double carbides.
Speed is key when in fresh powder like this just like crossing open water stay in the throttle an speed n you'll make it. Also standing up so you can push down on the side that's not sinking
@Joe Holland Fishing no problem I commented before I seen then end of the video but I could tell by the end your getting it figured out. Just takes time. Think of it kinda like water skiing once the skis sink you sink pick up speed the skis stay up you stay up. I definitely wanna come to Maine n fish that lake.
def need to go faster joe! its like a boat u need to get up on the snow when its deep, not plow it like a boat going slow, but live and learn! great vid! awesome sled!!!
So true. I kept augering off when I was on top with speed because of the uneven ground but I did learn some and got better. More confident next episode for sure!
your inexperience makes me nervous. you would have been fine if you had just got ton the throttle more. please practice riding more. you need to stand when you are riding in powder. and you cannot go slow. also, reverse in powder will just get you in more trouble.
How’d I miss this one. Have a 2019 Expedition 900 NA and it took me a bit to be comfortable in deep snow. 3,000 miles later I’m pretty familiar with the sled. I laughed so hard and was cheering you on when packing the trail. I’m sure you feel a heck of a lot more confident riding her now. Good job, like you said, have to learn somehow.
