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Local Pastors React To Southern Baptist Convention Action On Women In Pastoral Roles 

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This week at its annual convention, delegates, or Messengers, at the Southern Baptist Convention upheld a ban on having women to serve as pastors

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@jordanmadden7388
@jordanmadden7388 Год назад
People can vote on things all they want. The word doesn’t change. If you just choose what you believe regardless of what the Bible says, then you don’t need the Bible to begin with. You are choosing to be your own god. Christianity is about denial of self and submission to God. Accept Jesus as your savior, repent and believe. The kingdom of God is at hand. This life is a vapor. Care more for your eternal soul than for your temporal flesh.
@everlastinggobstopper4569
@everlastinggobstopper4569 Год назад
Sounds Cultish.
@HarpsiFizz
@HarpsiFizz Год назад
@@everlastinggobstopper4569 Don't worry, it is. Source- I escaped the death cult known as Christianity.
@vernaderiggs3749
@vernaderiggs3749 Год назад
Why have scriptures if you don't believe in it
@keithwiebe1787
@keithwiebe1787 Год назад
Does scripture condone or condemn slavery?
@Brucev7
@Brucev7 Год назад
Plenty of 'World' 'Churches'
@Brucev7
@Brucev7 Год назад
@@keithwiebe1787 Read about Manslaves
@keithwiebe1787
@keithwiebe1787 Год назад
@@kmountain5533 So I take it your handless?
@RTHenry83
@RTHenry83 Год назад
'kicking out women pastors' as if that's bad Ha! I love when the culture stand in opposition to the church of Christ and use other compromisers within the church to point out 'how bad' the church is. And yes friends it's biblical but thank you WBTV for giving both sides! 1:55 The SBC did not get it wrong. This man stands firm against the bible and history
@HarpsiFizz
@HarpsiFizz Год назад
I'm pretty hyped that church attendance is declining. New people aren't joining, people are leaving, and it serves them right. I know I'll never see a total decline of religion in my lifetime, but it gives me a lot of hope to see that the Southern Baptist Church is hemorrhaging patrons so badly. It's great.
@RTHenry83
@RTHenry83 Год назад
@@HarpsiFizz Christ will never fail. He has and will continue to build his church. If you're happy about leftist unbeliever "churches" that promote LGBT lies and baby killing and have lady preachers, then yes! Praise God they are closing! (Which they are) But if you're happy godly churches that preach and teach the timeless word of God are closing, you can wait for hell to freeze over. It hasn't happened and never will. In fact the gospel will advance until it covers the earth as water covers the sea. My advice is to repent of your self-righteous nonsense of a life and believe in Christ. He will wash you and make you new. He will restore your life and redeem you from the pit you find yourself in. Repent and believe friend. Jesus is far better than your sin, whatever sin it is.
@karlbryant5706
@karlbryant5706 Год назад
A division in the church will crumble
@karlbryant5706
@karlbryant5706 Год назад
Feminism has gone out of control
@j316min
@j316min Год назад
nothing to see hear. the Baptist Faith and Message 2000 addresses this with Scripture. If a member church does'nt want to submit to the authority of Scripture, they are free to leave. Another note is the fact that other denominations (UMC, PCUSA, ELCA, etc) that began with women in positions of pastoral authority, then ended up affirming homosexual behavior and transgenderism. When the authority of Scripture is rejected in one area, a downward spiral begins.
@RTHenry83
@RTHenry83 Год назад
bingo. it never stops when you let unbelief of any kind go unchecked. It runs rampant and consumes everything like fire
@Sjms13
@Sjms13 Год назад
The Bible tells us the gate is narrow...not all who cry out to Him follow Him. It certainly seems as though the wheat is being separated from the chaff. Do we follow Christ, or the world? There is only one right choice.
@ChildofGod98765
@ChildofGod98765 Год назад
God please empower me with your grace so I may continue to keep going. Please pray for me and my children. I’m so discouraged. Our world has grown so cold and heaven seems so far away. I receive so much hate simply for asking for prayers. Prayers are ALL I NEED. I’m a single mother and I’m struggling to provide for my sons both are autistic and I’m overwhelmed! I lost my job because I declined the vaccine. I declined due to my heart condition I had a massive heart attack and I suffer from lupus. I am waitressing now but not making nearly enough to get by. Every month is a struggle to survive. I can’t go back to my job at the hospital because mandates are still in place. Jesus help me to overcome my fears. Because as I struggle I am fearful. Struggling to provide for me and my children is scary Struggling to buy groceries. Struggling to pay rent. BUT I trust you Lord. Jesus hear my prayers. Even though I’m discouraged NO MATTER WHAT! I will keep faith! ❤ 0:06
@DedmanReactin
@DedmanReactin Год назад
Welp, that's what ya get fer putting all yer faith in a book that was written by MEN! 😂
@RTHenry83
@RTHenry83 Год назад
@@DedmanReactin what is your faith in?
@autokorrektor8166
@autokorrektor8166 Год назад
God voted and the choice is clear. Women stay in your place!
@keithwiebe1787
@keithwiebe1787 Год назад
Pregnant and barefoot!
@autokorrektor8166
@autokorrektor8166 Год назад
@@keithwiebe1787 If a man gives shoes to one of his girlfriends, than he shall give all of the girlfriends and his wife a pair of shoes. Equal treatment under god.
@jamgee3069
@jamgee3069 Год назад
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@steveyokeley3612
@steveyokeley3612 Год назад
2 Peter 1:20 "Know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture comes by one's own interpretation. " Anyone that says the bible allows for a woman to preach and/or to take any position of biblical authority does not read the bible in any other way but through their own interpretation. That person first sins against God by disobeying 2 Peter 1:20. If they can't repent of this sin as a person of an authoritative position in the true Christian church, they must step down from that position because they have proven themselves disqualified to hold a position of biblical authority. 2 Peter 1:21 " For no prophecy was ever made by the will of man, but men being moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God." It is not mankind that is the final authority, but God Himself. Don't blame man, blame God. Yet, He knows better than what our minds can comprehend.
@steveyokeley3612
@steveyokeley3612 Год назад
@@kmountain5533 the elder and the lady are not one in the same. “The elder to the lady” establishes that there is a difference. The elder must be male.
@steveyokeley3612
@steveyokeley3612 Год назад
@@kmountain5533 that is not what I said. You just can’t interject what you want into a statement. That is why you are misreading the Bible. There is nothing claiming her to be one in authority either. You make up too things that are not in the Bible.
@brianspain9042
@brianspain9042 Год назад
"Certainly, different people interpreting the Bible different ways" but when it came to the pastors interviewed, the one that agreed with the decision specifically referenced the word of God and the other disagreed by stating "I think God..." without any Bible references. Question any pastor that states what He believes without referencing the Bible to back it up. Also, as stated in Matthew 27:19, all Christians are called to spread the Word of God as Annie Armstrong and Lottie Moon did as missionaries. Missions and spreading the word of God is not the same thing as being a pastor.
@mcneillmama50
@mcneillmama50 Год назад
But pastors do spread the word of God. There is no difference. Little Moon, Annie Armstrong and corrie ten boom were shepherds to the people they ministered to. What's the dividing line here? We have women serving in the missions fields being tortured and imprisoned for their faith and work they do but the southern Baptists say they are not worthy or eligible to be pastors of a church's. This is what led to the years of sex abuse and cover ups in the Baptist church and other denominations as well. #silenceisnotspiritual #churchtoo #wetoo #metoo
@keithwiebe1787
@keithwiebe1787 Год назад
I see the role of a pastor as a shepherd to the sheep-not as an authoritarian facist leader.
@RTHenry83
@RTHenry83 Год назад
yup. It's feelings and culture that change the minds of left leaning people. They want to be liked and loved by the unbelievers and feel that if they change things that some how people will respond positively. We have many test cases of female leadership in the church the last 100 years AND IT ALWAYS GOES BAD. Even if it's pragmatism only, IT'S STILL A HORRIBLE IDEA and always fails
@danmcguire3355
@danmcguire3355 Год назад
It is interesting that following the Resurrection, Jesus, who is God, told Mary to go tell the brothers about him. To go tell the men. If God does not change and Jesus told a woman to go tell men about him, then it must be okay
@majorlaff8682
@majorlaff8682 Год назад
They were just passing on information, not preaching and teaching.
@keithwiebe1787
@keithwiebe1787 Год назад
@@majorlaff8682 So women are to be of less equal than a man?
@majorlaff8682
@majorlaff8682 Год назад
@@keithwiebe1787 Your comment doesn't make sense, Keith. Do you mean 'less value'? People are equal or they're not. It's impossible to be less equal or more equal.
@keithwiebe1787
@keithwiebe1787 Год назад
@@majorlaff8682 Equal certainly means equal in jobs and job descriptions doesn't it? LOL!
@Brucev7
@Brucev7 Год назад
Was Mary a Pastor? Leading a Church?
@DedmanReactin
@DedmanReactin Год назад
It's amazing how if ya ask em about the rape, adultery, sex, murder.. they will downplay it.. but if a woman start's preachin.. devil forbid!! 😂
@RTHenry83
@RTHenry83 Год назад
where? Where? Do you have examples?
@DedmanReactin
@DedmanReactin Год назад
@@RTHenry83 umm.. read the book.. it's all over in it!
@RTHenry83
@RTHenry83 Год назад
@@DedmanReactin you said "ask them' And I ask you "who?" and you tell me to read the bible. I do. A lot. And it's not in there. Prove me wrong
@DedmanReactin
@DedmanReactin Год назад
@@RTHenry83 I'm not gonna sit here and copy paste all the crap you should already know!! It doesn't condone most of these activities, but they are in there, tons of rape, incest, and murder.. why do you think it's banned in certain school's 😂
@DedmanReactin
@DedmanReactin Год назад
@@RTHenry83 all the preacher's! Ask em about the rape's! They will downplay all of the bad, and uplift all the good.. instead of taking as it was meant.. a bunch of good stories... That they actually took a lot of stories from Zoroastrianism.. but there is some nasty stuff in that book..
@seemore1539
@seemore1539 Год назад
It’s simple, you can’t have two CEOs running a company and expect it to succeed. Bible, God is extremely clear, God is head of man and man his head of a woman. There is order in God’s Kingdom. Just like when I was a tank commander in the Army and part of a 4 man tank crew, each person on the tank crew has a specific job and duties to fulfill to be effective at destroying the enemy, you have a driver, loader, gunner and tank commander. If you have two tank commanders and no driver or loader, or gunner then you have an ineffective tank and tank crew. A man has a purpose and a role, and a woman has a purpose and role, both are different but complement each other. What’s so hard about understanding that, FEMINISTS???? If you have a problem with that, then you need to get your head and heart wired together correctly and go before God and have a nice talk with God!!!!!
@keithwiebe1787
@keithwiebe1787 Год назад
And slavery is condoned in the Bible isn't it?
@johndwashburn9582
@johndwashburn9582 Год назад
@@keithwiebe1787let it go junior
@keithwiebe1787
@keithwiebe1787 Год назад
@@johndwashburn9582 And who are you? An old white man?
@Brucev7
@Brucev7 Год назад
@@keithwiebe1787 Where? Read about Manslaves.
@DUZCO10
@DUZCO10 Год назад
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@DedmanReactin
@DedmanReactin Год назад
The bible also says follow the law of the land! And we have made woman EQUAL! With no discrimination! Soo.. hmm.. this would be a discrimination lawsuit, based on what? SEX, prohibited by our equal rights clause.. gl southern babtistas! Your gonna need it!
@johndwashburn9582
@johndwashburn9582 Год назад
Gods law is over mans law derp
@DedmanReactin
@DedmanReactin Год назад
@@johndwashburn9582 only in your head
@RTHenry83
@RTHenry83 Год назад
where does it say that? What verse ?
@johndwashburn9582
@johndwashburn9582 Год назад
@@RTHenry83 “therefore render unto Caesar what is caesar’s”
@RTHenry83
@RTHenry83 Год назад
@@johndwashburn9582 Not what that means. That means that people are not property of the state. The separation of church and would have been a better wrong answer. But that too would be wrong since Jefferson meant (when he wrote it 200 years ago) that the church was not to be influenced by the state but did not at all prohibit the state to be influence by the church
@mcneillmama50
@mcneillmama50 Год назад
Arent you sitting in the judgment seat of misogyny? My head and heart are wired correctly. I am a born again Christian, baptized in the Wesleyan Church, where we do have ordained women pastors who are role models and advocates of the women in church. The Wesleyan Church is seeing a great revival and growth in this age of wokeness and hypocrisy among church leadership. Women need not apply for a job as a pastor in this denomination, but we wont turn down 10% of your income from jobs you hold down in orher male dominated fields like medicine, bank management, law enforcement, sports, pilots, construction trades, fork lift drivers, retail management, chefs, hotel management, taxi drivers..........isnt it hypocritical? Our money is good enough, but our call to preach/minister isnt?
@johndwashburn9582
@johndwashburn9582 Год назад
Take it up with God, honey 🫵🤨
@RTHenry83
@RTHenry83 Год назад
that's not scripture talking. Furthermore the reason the UMC and Wesleyan are having such issues like every other mainline group that affirms lady preachers is because when you change conviction on this issue, all other issues follow. Just look at the last 100 years. We have countless test cases. Even if God's word was not there and clear and our guide for everything. IT'S STILL A HORRIBLE IDEA. Lady preachers KILL CHURCHES
@nedsantos1415
@nedsantos1415 Год назад
And they tell you they're not misogynists. What a joke!!!
@stevenwendellnelson5228
@stevenwendellnelson5228 Год назад
I am delivering a sermon to you 🙏😊 please read Consistently Pray for forgiveness, guidance in a good (positive) direction, and for help against evil. Pray to be saved from hell (whatever that may be). Pray for your friends and your family too, it only takes a minute or so/less at a time to pray. Do it and your life will slowly get better, or maybe quickly. It probably just depends on you and the kind of person you are/have been. Don't wait until its too late and you have to suffer the consequences of built up bad karma from immoral acts/unrepented sins. Maybe together we can help make the world a better place by changing ourselves for the better, and changing things around us for the better. And addressing/thanking the CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE, LORD GOD at the beginning and end of your prayers would be a good idea. Be my friend and I will pray for you, but I do not know how much help me doing so will give you. You should try to practice daily prayer yourself. I'm trying to help you get right with the LORD 🙏 Amen. I have worded a short prayer for you to say if you are not sure what words to use, it may not be the best but here it is 😊 '' CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE, LORD GOD, Please forgive me and my friends and my family for our immoral acts, please help guide us in a positive direction and please help us against evil. Please save us from Hell and have mercy on our souls. Thank you for everything CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE, LORD GOD. Amen. '' Please say this at least once a day for at least a month, do it longer if you want to and can 🙏 You should prostrate yourself if you don't want to do spoken prayer, or do both 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏😊 Please worship the LORD GOD and not any idol. Please put your hands together 🙏 bow your head and say this prayer: "CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE, LORD GOD, please know that I worship you and not any idols. Thank you for everything CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE, LORD GOD. Amen" Say ' Om Namah Shivaya ' out loud or in your head 108 times, or try to do it 1008 times 😊 try to do it everyday if you want repeat this aloud for as long as you want to, try to do it for like an hour a day or say it in a prayer "Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner" You can also say this prayer once a day or repeat it aloud as many times as you would like to: "Hail Mary, full of grace. The Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death, Amen." Thessalonians 5:16-18 "Rejoice always, pray without ceasing, give thanks in all circumstances; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you." Philippians 4:6-7 "Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus." "O Blood and Water, which gushed forth from the Heart of Jesus as a fount of mercy for us, I trust in You!" Repeat this aloud at least 3 times or as many as you want, do it everyday if you can I apologize for all the words 😊 I know how it may look If you can't remember the words to any prayer, pray the words as you read them until you can 🙏☺
@chrisoneill3999
@chrisoneill3999 Год назад
When certain churches opposed the Civil Rights movement, they were gently reminded that staying out of politics is a condition of remaining tax exempt.
@nwicconsultants6640
@nwicconsultants6640 Год назад
You are obviously talking about the catholic church...and you are correct.
@chrisoneill3999
@chrisoneill3999 Год назад
@@nwicconsultants6640 Google is your friend ;- but only when you have learned how to use it. (Though thinking that the SBC is a Roman Catholic organization is a novel point of view).
@RTHenry83
@RTHenry83 Год назад
people are politics. But this has nothing to do with politics in any state or the US. But this literally has nothing to do with the civil rights movement and the Black community or the equal rights of human beings. No where in the bible does it say having dark skin or light is bad or sinful. But repeatedly does God affirm male headship in family, church, government. 1 Tim 3, Titus, 1 Corinthians 11. All the apostles were men. The human authors along with the Spirit were men. Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, David ALL MEN. Reality and thus God's way is very patriarchal.
@chrisoneill3999
@chrisoneill3999 Год назад
@@RTHenry83 You probably need to read some Josiah Priest. You could also do some basic research on the American Civil War. Iveson L Brookes and Patrick Mell are also authors you might dip into. They all knew their Bible a heap better than you seem to know yours.
@RTHenry83
@RTHenry83 Год назад
@@chrisoneill3999 maybe so. But my knowledge of scripture is not extant anymore than yours, or theirs. Everyone is lacking. What's not lacking is God's word and how repeatedly time and again he is clear on the vital aspects of reality and how people ought to live. Patriarchy is normal.
@gregsoberal7473
@gregsoberal7473 Год назад
Next worship on the sabbath (Saturday) as it states in the Bible Sunday is a Pagan sunworship day.
@RTHenry83
@RTHenry83 Год назад
incorrect. Jesus is the sabbath and it was man for man not man for the sabbath. Further Christians worship on the first day because Christ rose from the dead on Sunday. Saturday is named after Saturn, Monday after the Moon worship. SUNDAY is no more or less pagan
@gregsoberal7473
@gregsoberal7473 Год назад
@@RTHenry83 you would buy anything with the name Jesus attached to it. Ignorance begets confidence more than does knowledge that’s why you are so confident I mean listen to yourself SUNday has nothing to do with the sun is what you say? Can’t you see when you are not making any sense?? You are brain washed!
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