Thanks for the quick and straightforward video! Will say, MX Master 2S is now supported on Logi Options+, so I think it was just Logitech having to take time to support all their products on the new app.
I have been using this keyboard for 7 months now. With keycaps being a little bit too smooth I agree. From time to time I have to wipe them off just to feel more "grip". But quality of the keycaps is OK I guess. I'm working from home and typing for around 6 hours a day + rest of the day gaming :D. I could say I really do abuse my keyboard, so far every key is still rigged and there is no scraping marks or anything. Ability to connect it to my phone with click of a button is wonderful and never had an issue with that About battery life, as heavy user it lasts me about 17 days days with backlight. I think always on backlight feature would absolutely kill the battery. Coz I'm too lazy too lazy to constantly turn it off :D. Also imo proximity sensor is enough when you are trying to find starting letter in the dark. As said in the video wireless connection in bios is a little bit funky sometimes, but you can always use your phone charger cable and have it wired. (Or included cable which I already lost:)) Switches could be better, but these still provide great typing and also gaming experience :) Hope this helps somebody who is thinking about getting one of these.
Thanks for the honest review! What I also recommend to consider when buying a keyboard is: Do you really need a wireless keyboard? Because if you want RGB or at least backlighted shine through keycaps AND you want to have it always on, why bothering with something like battery life? If your keyboard stays at the very same place, a cable would be more comfortable, makes the keyboard much cheaper and in the end having less degrading batteries in this world makes it also more ecologic.
Good point. I think the trend towards wireless everything is a result of "minimalism" or at least an attempt to declutter, which is potentially an entirely aesthetic concern. While keyboards without batteries SHOULD be much cheaper, I don't know if that's always born out in reality, unfortunately
@@PhillipRPeck That is also true - at least when you look at the whole market. There are a lot of keyboards with battery which are not more expensive than without. Then you have to investigate individually where are the savings made to compensate for that. If I for example only look at the Cherry MX 3.0 S, the wireless version is 150€ in Europe and the wired version currently is sold for 63€. Therefore, in this case every part should be equal except the connectivity part. As the wired version with brown switches ticked all my boxes, I ordered it. I will check if the illumination is sufficient for me and if it is otherwise as good as I expect it. Looking forward to it.
Another excellent point. I definitely wasn't thinking about specific keyboards that have a wired and wireless version, but rather, all keyboards generally where it seemed to me that there are numerous examples of very expensive wired keyboards. But your point is well taken and valuable commentary. I hope you love your keyboard
Got the same keyboard a few weeks back. Generally like it, and switches fast between yn three different computers. I do have a wired in the closet if I need start up support or similar as I found out the wired mode is only charging, my bad for missing that. I'm fine with abs keys myself don't mind them at all. I guess I hope someone comes out with replacement ones and space-bar at some point as they should wear quicker then anything else. Also I have one key that as a bit of a ping sound and once you hear it it annoys you. I normally work with headphones and not so loud but yeah definitely an annoying I key :)... Just have to stop talking about my self in first person form as much now :) .. thanks Logitech for taking my money and making me less egocentric in the process :)
03:09 It was not going to BIOS on Logi Bolt receiver since the Function keys are secondary keys by default. If you press Fn + F2 or Fn + F1 to go to BIOS, it will work.
I Agee I bought this Keyboard JUST for the backlighting and Logitech won't give us an option to KEEP it lit !! Logitech Listen to your customers! wait some is call me for Help. I'm back but can't find the Keyboard because it is not BACKLIT??? Question Logitech with all of your Intelligent employees in R&D can't you motivate one of them to fix this problem and then update the firmware???? Is this too much to ask?
appreciate you saving me $169 usd here. If the batter life is so incredible, Logitech needs to provide far more customization options for lighting timeout. yes, yes, yes, that will nuke the battery but even a week with non-stop backlighting would be acceptable. I'm also glad OP described his use case: work in a dark room and actually want to use illumation to see the keyboard.... which is impossible since logitech forces the lighting to auto turn off after 3 seconds of typying. That renders the illumination feature 50% useless for, well, anyone trying to locate their keyboard in a dark room. The mindless logitech product managers have no clue how users actually use the product.
On mine you can change all those settings in options+, they might have added this later. In fact its likely they did. But I can disable the backlight timeout altogether, as well as multiple different lighting schemes like wave and pulse etc.
Just bought this. Need a keyboard for software development, coding, production. Not really a PC gamer so gaming keyboards are not for me, I like simple, clean looks. Im so excited to get this in the mail.
Thank you for leaving a review. I've been using this keyboard for about 4 months now, and I love the way it feels when typing. It's great for my smaller hands and allows me to type quickly and seamlessly. However, I'm having issues with the Enter key, as I need to press it multiple times for it to register, which is very frustrating given the price of the keyboard. It's also disappointing that it doesn't come in black or have a screenshot key. Despite these drawbacks, I still find typing on it very satisfying. I'm considering changing the lock key switch in the hope of resolving the issue, but I'm new to mechanical fixing and have never changed a switch before. I'd appreciate some guidance on how to do this and whether it's likely to solve the problem. Thank you!
Hey, I don't really know, I've never purchased keycap sets. All the keys are standard except the spacebar, so you could buy whatever you think looks good but you'll need to find a spacebar that has the same stem placement or leave it as is. There are pretty well established enthusiast keyboard websites and Reddit groups that may have more specific insight
Hello, I use steelseries rival 5 and apex m750 in my office. I bought it for long term use. But now I want to change my keyboard and mouse set. logitech mx 3s and mx keys. Or I'm thinking of a combination like MX mechanical keys. Would you recommend it? thank you also for the video
Yeah, I really like the MX Mechanical. It's a bit too expensive IMO, but the wireless connectivity and switching between devices work really well. The MX 3S is also great. It's a bit heavy and the polling rate and accuracy aren't best in the world, but it's highly regarded for productivity for a reason.
You mean you have to open up the Bluetooth menu in MacOS and reconnect? If so, then no, I don't have that problem. M1 and M2 Macs can be pretty finnicky when it comes to Bluetooth, though, and it seems like there's no consistency in how they perform. There is a way to reset the Bluetooth module via the command prompt that might help. You should be able to find the command if you Google search it. Maybe that will help
I’ve had a dodgy space bar it on two now. The first one started making a pinging noise which seems to be common across any of the keys. The second one was a similar noise but that was only after a day. If someone gave me the keyboard I’d have lived with it but it’s too expensive to ‘make do’ so they both went back. Shame really as I liked it a lot!
The typical amount (depends on your environment I suppose) ...? Easy enough to blow out with some sort of air puff or compressed air and the keys are easy to pop off if you need to get a little more thorough
@@PhillipRPeck That's a real pity. Logitech really dropped the ball there. I have the G915 and I'm finding the G Hub software is full of bugs. When I assign a group of keys a color, one key within the group will turn off when I try to upload the setting to the kb memory. That bug is repeatable when I assign to different groups. Also the upload to device function fails too. In about 3 years since the G915 came out, Logitech hasn't bothered to fix this POS software. The UI on the G Hub software is the worst I've seen. Nothing is intuitive and you don't know if something is clickable or not which is an irony since Logitech is in the business of human interface devices. Turning to the manual I find it to be the worst written manual I've seen in my life. Seems to have been a brain dump from a developer written overnight. Makes no sense unless one already knows the software. Other than the software the G915 is well built. The design is stunning but they've dropped the ball in a few hardware aspects too like no USB C and no place to store the dongle. WTH logitech this is 2020 when the kb came out. The G915 is great hardwarewise but that's all it is. Really let down by its unusable Ghub app which severely hampers its functions.
Thank you for the 3-month update, Philip. It is highly appreciated. However, I feel that the Cougar Luxlim is way better and more durable keyboard than the Logitech MX Mechanical keyboard. The Cougar Luxlim is a low-profile, Red switch keyboard and the actuation is way better too, making for a great typing experience.
I thought I am the only one think Logitech is very useless to enter MacOS recovery. You got that error too in Windows. I like to buy but only issue is can’t do any recovery state with Logitech .
It is a total disaster. Illumination turns of quickly and you have to reactivate it all the time, small/capital indication light is just a tone more brighter on the word "caps" on the actual key (so you are never sure if using small or capital letters making mistakes all the time) and the whole letter layout is strangely one click to left making hard to type numbers on the far right. For productivity look elsewhere
I really like mine, for the most part. I've gotten used to the keys. What I don't like at all is that trash they call Logi Options Plus. What a bug party. EDIT: @3:05 lol are you using Logi Options Plus? EDIT Yet again! OMG they used to require two versions with the MX Master 3S? That would have been the last straw for me I at least don't have to use a prior version, though I have read that Logi Options is more stable than Options Plus. Many recommend it as it is a little better, but I just deal with the audio glitches and other mayhem. Maybe they'll eventually fart out a software update that fixes a bug or two.
I was using the MX Master 2S, not the 3S. The 3 and 3S are fully supported by Logi Options +. I haven't noticed any major bugs are weirdness with the software, but then again, I don't usually have it running in the background. I'd be interested to hear more about what issues it's causing you. Logi is increasingly going the software model, even floating the possibility of a subscription mouse which is not a future I'm on board for
@@PhillipRPeck well your comment made me sit and think maybe I am dreaming it all up but no just today Logi Options Plus wants to be a jerk again. I have audio stuttering glitches and the software will forget my devices occasionally. I will go to use one of my buttons and it won't work. Nothing is bound the way I had it set up. Why? Well let's load Options Plus and have a look. Oh none of my devices are listed. Where did they go? How am I still typing? Why do I have a mouse if there are no devices listed? I hate it and I won't be buying anything else Logitech. If they think they are going to convince me to give them dollars every month for Logi Options Plus grade software they are seriously out of touch with reality.
@@adcraziness1501 Lol, sorry, I didn't mean to suggest that it wasn't causing problems, I was just curious to know what kinds of problems it's causing. Thanks for the response. I've actually stopped using Logi periperals. I still have the MX Mech but it's been sitting in the box for 6 months and I sold my MX Master 3S to a friend. I might break out the MX Mech to be my dedicated macOS keyboard, but... I'm not sure if I'll bother I bought the Keychron M6 mouse to compare to the MX 3S and while the build and look aren't super great, the functionality is right up there with the MX 3/S. I think there might even be a newer version since I bought mine
I think the design of the capslock key is an absolute pity. The friction between the metal wire and the plastic claw sometimes causes sharp noise. The metal wire also creates additional noise even when the sharp noise is not present. Not quite sure why Logitech doesn't use a satellite switch or just a single switch as the solution. Generally I like this keyboard, but I just cannot tolerate that sharp noise. Hope Logitech can solve this problem then I will 100% buy this again.
nuphy has some nice low profile ones that are flatter and similar in shape. keychron also has some low profile caps, though they have a different shape that you may or may not like.
Are there any recommendations from the commenters here for amother mechanical keyboard that has all the features but not the issues he mentions...or does that keyboard not yet exist? 😅
Again new software? I would't trust on waiting for support on older devices in newer software. I had a pretty recent keyboard which was never supported by Options. Instead I had to run the older software for the keyboard and Options for my mouse..
I regret buying this product. The quality of the keycaps is disappointingly poor. It's not straightforward to find suitable replacement keycaps either, since the alternate options may not fit properly.
Logitech is certainly becoming Applified with their pricing. Charging far more for a cheaper product overall just from brand ubiquity alone. But stuff like no backwards comparability for the wireless systems is getting pretty fucking absurd for the price they're charging. Literally calling one of their wireless dongles a 'unified receiver' when its wireless technology has no compatibility back and fourth with products that come out not too long after. Another thing I hate is the windows lock button on the top right.
This is a stupid keyboard, really. I thought I would spend some serious money in order to get a high quality keyboard this time. You won't type faster on it nor will it last longer. I mean, because all keys feel the same, because they're really flat, I'm constantly checking on the monitor if my fingers are still touching the correct keys so it is not optimal for quick blind typing. Sometimes they don't and you won't notice it and be surprised of what the heck you have just typed. Because the keys float above the housing, guaranteed that one day you'll hit a corner key and launch it or break the plastic mounting lips. For the money, I have used way better, more durable, water protected, adjustable, keyboards for just 30 Euros. In short: Just buy it if looks are everything.The fact no-one is really excited about this keyboard says it all.
So true about not being able to see the keys, and probably people saying that you should just know where they are 🤣 I switched from the grey to the white so that I could read the keyboard better, the downside is that, unbelievably, they're actually harder to read with the backlight on. Hopefully by now you know that Logitech have just updated the Options+ software to cover the 2S mouse, I was in exactly the same position as you. I am really surprised you've had that issue with the Bolt receiver, it's worked perfectly for me, have you got it on a hub? Funnily enough I have just ordered the Keychron K3 to try out, hopefully I can live with the battery and bluetooth / cable.
I didn't see that the 2s is now supported. My wife is using that mouse now so I hadn't checked. The Bolt receiver is mostly great, just runs into some issues with other USB devices depending where it's plugged in but that's not necessarily Logitechs fault. I'm not using a hub. I was plugged into front panel connectors on my PC. The Keychrons are great. The slight lack of polish in comparison to Logitech isn't that big a deal
