That superman had a lot more experience under his belt. This superman has a lot more self reflection and confidence to build up before he can drop a line like that 😄
That in my opinion is the best version of superman. You get to see him as a person. HBO series came close but is to damn edgy and dramatic, it has parts I love but then followed up by cheap melodrama and the forced family issues. Superboy is nerdy jock type, having one kid a dumb jock and one an emo with the power rivalry is ridiculous. Both sons are so irrationally stupid at times that it's unbelievable, their parents are award winning journalists and they both are reasonably smart. so the random bouts of plot required stupidity is jarring and just bad writing.
@@bigbear4120 Does anyone remember the episode of Smallville, when Pete Ross found out Clark's secret? One of the concerns Clark had for not telling his best friend was that Pete would look at him different or think different of him, like a freak or a monster, because all his life, Clark's only tried to be normal and fit in on the planet he's only ever known as home. This show and Smallville really do nail Clark's humanity and inner turmoil.
The fact is that Clark keeps secrets to protect, whereas Lois keeps secrets to manipulate events in her favor. She's a hypocrite. And she's more like her father than she would care to admit.
I gotta side with Clark on this one Secret identities exist for a reason, plus if someone has deep, personal, intimate information about themselves it’s up to them when/if they share it with others Privacy doesn’t equal dishonesty
In a way, secret identities was meant to protect the ones you love from bad guys otherwise the bad guys you fought will learn about you and come after the ones you love. So it’s not a dishonest thing, it’s protection.
To be fair to Lois, I think it has more to do with her own personal trauma. Her father kept secrets from her that led to her being unprepared to face her mother’s death. And unlike the other times clark showed up before, this time he was obviously hurt and he lied to her about why. She’s probably just scared about suddenly losing him and being completely blindsided again because if he was actually in danger or badly hurt he wouldn’t tell her and she can’t abide by that.
I agree I get she’s really hurt the suicide almost thing would wooo have ended badly but I do get her point but no Clark is in the right at least rn Sorry for jumbled comment
@@ravenblood1954to be fair to Clark, for as much as she's upset about Clark lying to her, she's lied to him quite a bit, he even called her out on it in the pilot. I totally understand why she's doing this, but shes being a tremendous hypocrite
Hiding information distort your perception of reality so it can be a form deception, it's the most common actually, cause it weights less on the mind and it's the easiest for people to buy too (your brain literally works on this mode: WYSIATI). But i don't want to be too hard on clark, he might actually be right (i don't know the circunstances), you don't need to spur certain facts if you don't have to, if you think they're unnecessary, in the same way we keep embarrassing events, intrusive thoughts, etc.
@@GustavoSilva-ny8jchaving a private life is not lying. You don’t open up a relationship with something as important, you build up until you can share it with someone and is clear that Clark wasn’t there yet in the relationship.
This show got me with this. A Superman show or comic where Lois can the see obvious and it didn't take long? So refreshing. And she already likes Clark too, no beating around the bush with this one.
yeah, the "Lois not knowing Clark's secret" thing went the way of the dodo in the '90s, with her eventually finding out in all modern media. hell, they didn't even bother with it in Man of Steel, so her finding out early in this show's run isn't surprising in the least
Yh I love how they don’t long it out and don’t treat it as the main plot of the season the two of them falling in love and finding out superman’s identity in the forth episode. They did not keep us waiting until the last couple of episodes and I really appreciate that
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I get that she’s mad, she was so invested in catching Superman, Clark had shitty excuses, lied over and over again and the lying probably reminds her of her father but tbh she did say she was gonna reveal Superman’s secrets to everyone, which understandably made Clark scared, especially considering he was terrified to tell Lois because not even he knows what he is. Damn gotta love some good written argument and drama
Her being mad as dumb as hell she literally said she would publish everything until everybody about him even when he doesn’t know everything about himself which he literally told her I saw her jumping off the building is mad, dumb especially if Clark wasn’t superman you can’t be mad at him for not wanting to tell the whole world he’s super man, especially since he barely even knows Lois they literally just met
@scarecrow730 No, I see where she’s coming from (even if she’s wrong). She feels that he should have trusted her, knowing she would not do that anymore for him. Essentially, he DID doubt the strength/trust in that relationship. But that’s because Lois was unreasonable in what she expected out of Superman and did not consider the consequences of selling out his identity to make a name for herself.
@@kennmarlow4889 u just said it even if she’s wrong witch she is and ur not going to spill your biggest secrets to someone u just meet and barely know and what she’s shown u is she will put a story before anything she literally has no right to be mad at him and she literally would of looked mad dumb if he wasn’t superman
@@geraldjames7719 she can’t be mad because he didn’t tell her a secret that literally has nothing to do with her that literally makes zero sense when she’s literally has lied to him countless times these past four episodes
Well, you remember back in the first episode when Lois promised no more secrets between her colleagues after she had lied to them before. Even after he agreed to her resolution, Clark still keeps his own secret of being Superman and lies about not being him, which goes against everything. And when you add that he had been lying to her for more than just one day, weeks or months maybe, that makes it much worse.
@@kyleeaton2660bruh, who's insane enough tell someone your secret identity when you met someone in the short amount of time? There's also the fact you will fight off Villians and you want your friends/family to involve with? Clark has a right defend himself and lie
Ah, the good old "I'm incredibly offended you kept your private life private from me" argument. Makes as much sense as a pair of normal glasses protecting a secret identity.
Agreed maybe super man should dye his hair blond also if I remember Lois didn’t really tell Clark the whole truth about her dad I mean if her dad thought her how to fight then she kept a secret from him
I dunno I thinks it’s reasonable especially after everything they’ve all been through. It just shows that they dont really trust eachother & that seems like a fight that had to happen
Here’s my issue with Lois since the she became invested in Superman. She said that she was going to find out who he is and publish everything about him, regardless of how that would negatively affect him, even after he has saved her life several times. So why would Clark in his right mind tell her anything. She acts like all lies are created equal, regardless of the context
@@oceanberserkerI think the fact that they interacted face to face with Clark as Superman several times deepens the sense of betrayal though, that part of Clark's life had already involved her. Overall I think she is still in the wrong, and I'm not a huge fan of this trope in superhero stories, but the writers seem capable of making something interesting out of it.
@@SouthpawTF2 Precisely. SENSE of betrayal, not ACTUAL betrayal. That what Lois is feeling is understandable, but ultimately, looking at it purely from the standpoint of logic, it's just that, a feeling. Again, understandable, but ultimately when one looks at the situation with clear eyes, not necessarily worth holding on to. Bear in mind, Lois made it perfectly clear in all her interactions that she was hellbent and determined to find out EVERYTHING about Superman, consequences be damned. It's kind of like how in Danny Phantom, he keeps who he really is and what he's up to from his parents due to the fact about how gung - ho they are hunting ghosts and how eager they are to subject any 'specimen' they capture to experimentation, dissection included. Nevermind how many times Danny's own father always told his alter ego how he'll and I quote: 'tear him apart, molecules by molecule.' In this instance with Lois personally, it's nowhere near so extreme, but you see the parallels. Add in that there IS a shifty government organization, shocker, that's actively been abducting people to serve their own ends, regardless of whether or not they're actually dangerous criminals, and you can see why Clark isn't exactly in the mood to humor Lois and her enthusiasm in regards to his secrets.
To be fair I think that what hurt Lois the most during all of this was the fact that Clark thought that she would betray him and hurt him if he ever came clean to her, and the fact that he was clearly hurt and gave her such a lame excuse felt like he was just shutting her out and pushing her away
You forgetting the part where she said she was going to out Superman, which would be basically signing a Death Warrant on his parents, all so she could advance her career? I get she is frustrated, I get that she has had issues with her father, but it is no reason to do what she did. They knew each other for a few days at best, Clark has no reason to pony up his private life to her, specially not after the kind of comments she made. Also, maybe there was a reason why he was pushing her away? Perhaps because he was afraid of what she would do?
there is also the issue that she doesn't need to betray him for her knowledge to lead to bad things, knowing his identity will change her behaviour, when her behaviour changes, someone would probably notice, she is a public reporter, if the wrong people notice, what would be the betrayal, revealing superman's identity in order to prevent bad things from happening, or letting them happen and keeping quiet? in fact, that's probably one of the various reasons to not tell her about being superman, if he did that, she may be face with an impossible dichotomy she doesn't have the power to escape
I never understand why people are so mad at superheroes for keeping secrets. Everyone is entitled to their privacy and secrets so long as keeping said secret doesn't put others in danger. No one can demand anyone to reveal a deep and personal secret thats just called respecting anothers privacy.
It's more an old trope than a realistic reaction. I can understand a bit of anger about it, but would also expect some excitement or something too. Something like "I'M SOOO MAD! OH, BUT ALSO, YOU'RE... YOUR SUPERMAN! BUT I'M STILL MAD, BUT YOU'RE SUPERMAN, THAT'S SO FUCKING COOL... STILL ANGRY AT YOU THOUGH... FOR NOW".
I’m upset with her actions, forcing him to tell her. I mean, be in his shoes for a moment: the family you thought to have since birth adopted you. The parents you actually have are humanoid aliens that sent him away before he could perish with them. He got powers, but the supernatural essence is contained and only the enhanced abilities outside human control are out and he has been trying to be careful in every way (breaking the alarm clock, snapping the faucet, saving the cat while trying to be normal). Then the magic does come out, and he has to hide more of himself from the public view at the same time try to understand why he has them. Not to mention the opportunity to get with a girl he likes and who likes him back not only wants to expose this hidden side of him but also hates this side of him, nor doesn’t believe him when he tells her he doesn’t know anything of his past and his abilities. And now that she figured it out, she calls him out on how he was terrible for not telling her? Because they were friends, and probably a close chance to be lovers? How long has he know her? How long has he know Jimmy? He obviously knew Jimmy longer and is obsessed with everything Clark is part of, unfortunately. He never knew about this, so what makes her so special? Just because a thing was starting between them? In the beginning she tricked the boys into doing her own thing instead of following the boss who is authorized to fire them; as well was very direct and blunt on wanting the truth which many people would avoid than to speak on as expressed in that party episode. This man is confused and scared. He’s doing his best to use his powers for good while also figuring them out on the way. And she claims him to be the bad guy while also falling for him at first sight. She may have apologized for her actions before, but this was unfair for him on how complicated his life is - that she has NO REASON to know about unless he was ready to tell despite the hate for Superman. I’m just ranting here. I know we’re going to get some quick drama, and eventually, most likely when season 1 ends, Lois and Jimmy would be the Sam Manson and Tucker Foley of Clark’s Danny Phantom/Fenton, as displayed in the opening theme. But, still. She shouldn’t have risk her life for a secret that has been conflicting his life since youth and is now furthering complications. I love the show and I am damn watching until its final. I’m just not happy with Lois. More than how upset I am at them on making Jimmy the forgotten third wheel. My poor boys 😢
Exactly. People justify Lois getting mad because Clark lied and straight up say it's all over, without even trying to understand why he did that? And I see comments calling his excuses 'lame'. Wth? Can people not think from others' perspective first instead of judging so fast and harshly?
I whole heartedly agree with everything you said mate, this really frustrates me about Lois character in this show, both SAS Lois and Smallville Lois were better reporters who still respected Superman’s privacy than this Tomboy Lois. She repeatedly tells Clark how much she hates Superman for lying to her and says she won’t stop until she uncovers all of his secrets and then publish them for all the world to see, giving him plenty of reason to not tell her and then when he tries to protect himself, she forces the situation where he had no choice but to reveal himself, and then gets mad at him for saving her, I don’t care if she has some childhood trauma about being lied to by her father, we all have trauma, but jumping off a building should never a person answer to dealing with a problem like this, and then she got mad at him for keeping a secret that if it got out would more or less ruin his life forever, she’s being so unreasonable and I still wouldn’t completely trust her not to reveal his secret to the world at this point.
Batman: well on the bright side you learned a valuable lesson from all of this.😊 Superman: what valuable lesson I am supp..... Batman: *WEAR A FUCKING MASK!*
@@Dikbeeg True. But here the problem, if it took Lois lane exactly two day to figure out that Clark Kent is Superman then guess who going to figure it out in matter minute or worst second, Lex Luther. Lex *FUCKING* Luther!!! Because if Lois is no longer going to be a dummy then so will he, and when he find out he is *going relish the hell the out of it* to point where he..... A: threatened him to destroy everything he ever loved and cared about (such as killing his parents ) if he doesn't do what he says. Or... B: Kill him using kryptonite when he's is the most vulnerable( Like when is sleeping in his apartment). Worst case scenario The joker finds out and decide to pull Injustice. The only difference is that instead of becoming a tyrant Superman just become depressed because having your wife,child,and City blown up doesn't lead to dictatorships it leads to depression. So yeah 👍
To be frank, you can’t blame him. It’s his business, and a way to keep people safe from danger. If villains knew who he was, the people that he cares for, they could be at risk of getting hurt or worst. Heroes have it rough, and can no longer have normal lives because they have a responsibility to keep.
From what we've seen in previous episodes, Lois is actually capable of owning up to her mistakes and apologizing. I'm sure she will in the next episode, maybe
@@kinjorex101The synopsis for episode 6 says that they will have "relation woes" so I suppose we will see them argue a bit. And in episode 7 everything will be fine, I hope
@@kinjorex101wait seriously?! I want to know if that's a reference to Ouran Host Club cause that was my immediate thought, so now I wonder what the context of the episode will be 😮
I think the healthy thing for Clark to do is hold Lois accountable and telling her the risks of what being Superman brings. That his family, his friends, his life, that could all be in danger.
Can just someone tell me if these two are gonna be together?!! If not then this is the worst show ever the timelines of injustice or anything else won’t happen??!
The heightened tension in this scene works for me because this is the first time Clark has had visible, lasting damage from a fight. That’s something that I think could trigger an unreasonable response from Lois in the moment since Clark’s always returned unscathed to this point.
So glad we're dealing with this now and not as the season finale, really helps to set this up as a series where the three of them might be a team rather than Lois and Jimmy just being bystanders. Also so glad we got a Lois that is smart enough to read the very obvious signs.
Usually we'd have to wait 5 seasons to get this crap over and done with. I was already getting fed up after 3 episodes of Lois not knowing. So so happy it's been addressed now. Basically ripped off the band aid
@@iMikes well it just shows that they’re making this Lois an actual character rather than just someone who’s constantly being saved as she’s been in other versions.
when you spend 15+ years keeping secrets, it kind of becomes your default. hell, he was about to tell her the truth at the gala, but chickened out when she made it clear that she hates secrets. that said, judging from the promo for next week, they *begin* to patch things up, and it goes without saying that they're endgame. this is just a speed bump.
I hope we get a confrontation with her dad, the obvious reason as to why she hates secrets. Why he felt the need to keep the severity of her mothers condition from her.
@@goodpol5022it's not a hatred of Superman, it's the fact that he wouldn't just be straight-forward with her. And Clark was about to at multiple times, but insert classic cartoon identity reveal trope where something prevents him from saying it.
@@CobaltZ_hansAfter she made it abundantly clear she was hellbent and determined to find out EVERYTHING about Superman, consequences be damned, even before she knew or even met Clark proper? Yeah, I'd be a little gun shy around someone like that if I was in the Big Blue Boy Scout's cape too
I watched this scene like 100 times because I just can’t get over it. One, Lois ended her relationship with Clark before it started Two, Jimmy feel’s betrayed by his 2 best friends and goes on his camping trip alone Three, Slade wilson is starting to become deathstroke
@@goodpol5022 Give it time. At the very least, he has a "Hate Sink" feel and attitude towards him that just makes you want to punch him in the face. Repeatedly. Again and again until his face stops being a face. And it is magnificent.
Ngl he kind of had a point tho with her claims about exposing all of “his” secrets. Lois has already shown she’s willing to risk Clark’s life to for the story in both ep 1 and ep 3. Even if their relationship was deeper at that point I would not have taken that risk.
Fun fact: Lois pulled off this same stuff with Clark in one of the Superman movies and is probably a reference to that. He somehow managed to avoid saving her directly and fell into a fruit cart. People around her must have thought she was crazy.
Literally screamed during this scene I was so sad. Both of them are completely valid in the way they feel, which makes their relationship feel so real.
I mean to be fair to Clark, Lois didn’t instill enough confidence to tell the truth. I get that he omitted the truth from her but the fact is her ambition was so great that she risked getting him and Jimmy fired on day one of their job, recklessly getting involved in dangerous situations to either get the story or interview Superman, and to top it off to jump off a ledge of the Daily Planet just to force his hand. I really can’t blame him not telling her if she hasn’t built enough trust to do that. Sure they’re friends but even friends keep secrets.
Next episode they will probably have their heart to heart, and Clark can explain...cause he did try to tell Lois at one point, but he never could cause he thought she was going to expose it to the world...to be fair. at that point they only just met.
I hope your right. Cause I hope it doesn't devolve into some stupid petty love triangle story with like Lex Luthor or some shit like that down the line. I already don't care much for romances in stories to begin with, but PLEASE don't go down THAT route. Bluuuch!!! 🤮
I honestly don't think Lois was in the right to do what she did to expose Clark's secret. It wasn't her secret to know, and she has no right to be mad at Clark for not telling her. Just because Lois has issues with secrets and lies, doesn't mean she needed to know Clark's secret. If anything, Clark should be more angry with Lois. Clark may have been a bad liar at this moment, but he just didn't want to worry her. Plus, Clark made it clear how Lois made it hard for him to tell her his secret. While I do think that Clark and Lois will find a way back from this, it's a sad moment for their relationship.
"Having secrets is another way of lying", No, it's not, it's called private life, and Clark isn't even doing anything bad, he's helping people anonymously without expecting reward or recognition, that's not lying, it's selfless altruism, absolutely the opposite of lying, for God's sake.
Wasn't their first interaction her lying to his face and risking his and Jimmy's lives and jobs in order to get a story? Lois should get over herself, he didn't owe her the truth.
Isn't Lois being a bit of a hypocrite? After all, she also lied to Clark during their first outing and investigation. Perry didn't want Lois to do that report, but Lois, not only did the investigation behind Perry's back, but brought Clark and Jimmy to help her with the investigation, saying Perry gave them the okay. And when Perry found out, he tried to call Lois, only for Lois to reject the call, resulting in Perry calling Clark and Clark learning the truth behind the investigation. I'm just saying that Lois is making a big deal about Clark lying about his identity despite the fact that she was also caught lying to get what she wanted.
While she did take it too far here, it's important to keep in mind she DID apologize to them for it (they even had a heart-to-heart about it last ep), and hasn't kept any major secrets from then since.
@@ShinoharaMiyu But too be fair, the investigation could've cost them their lives. At that point, Lois and Jimmy didn't even know that a Superman even existed. Lois placed two people that she just met in danger just to get the scoop of a lifetime. And yes, it is true that she realized that she was a terrible person for lying to them. But is that really an excuse considering that she was willing to throw herself into danger just to prove that Clark Kent and Superman are the same person? Plus, Clark keeping his identity a secret is a lot more justifiable than Lois lying about an investigation that could've resulted in serious consequences if things went wrong. All I'm saying is that there could've been a different route she could've taken other than explode with anger after she learned the truth.
She is being hypocritical to an extent, and she will reflect on that and realize it next episode. This will be a larger version of their Episode 1 fight where they each self-reflected, decided that they were in the wrong, and apologized.
I think the fact that Clark didn’t trust her enough to keep his secret if he told her is what hurt her most. I think both sides are well-written and understandable. Love it!
Lois is definitely overreacting but from a professional experience he is actively lying to her about something she's devoted a lot of time and energy into. Imagine spending months and months on a research project that you think could make your career, and it turns out your teammate was actively sabotaging your work this entire time.... WHILE flirting with you! It's unsurprising she didn't consider Superman as a person who might have priorities and reasons to have a secret identity - that's exactly how Clark was trying to present him. It was clear they were both thinking of starting a relationship out of work. Now Lois realizes he would've continued hiding from her even after they got together. That's also a tough blow.
Welp he's gotta. Imagine you got racks of funds in your bank account and they're like "why didn't you tell me you were rich? I thought we could be something more"
@@Smarty2able I don't think either of them would equate powers used to help people with being rich. And even then in that scenario I don't think anyone would like to be implied as a gold-digger if they weren't one by the person they liked. Nevertheless I understand why he keeps it a secret. My least favorite trend of all is the idea that superheroes don't need secret identities, especially post-Ironman. I'm just saying she has reasons to be hurt.
@@Smarty2able It's more than that. Imagine if your literally Zeus on earth, and EVERYONE found out about it. That's what Clarks entire position is. Dude isn't just a superhero, he's literally the equivalent of a GOD masquerading as a mortal.
@@Xineal I can understand her being hurt, I just hope that she quickly realizes that Clarks secret and her dads secret are NO WERE NEAR on the same level. Like I said, Clarks secret could get entire lives upended, ruined, and ended if it ever got out on a mass scale.
True but from his perspective, she stated she was going to expose his secrets, if the government knows about his true identity, imagine what they would do to his parents, to heck to Lois herself since she is close with Clark, while this show is mostly light hearted, I guarantee if the government got involved they would commit crimes against humanity just to figure out Clark’s powers Therefore he had no other choice, he had no idea how she would react, and therefore he had to keep doing what he was doing, both sides do have some merit but Clark has more in my opinion because he just want to keep the people he loves safe, which to me, is more important than someone’s feelings of their “research project” being sabotaged, but that’s just my view of it, I am interested to see where this goes
You know, all this could have been avoided if she just said "Hi, Clark. I know you are Superman but because I like you, I have decided not to publish your secrets. Please don't try to deny it because I have evidence. I realize now that you must have good reasons for hiding the truth from me, but I don't want you to lie to me anymore."
I mean, I get she doesn't like being lied to but Clark had no obligation to tell her he's Superman, especially after she threatened to expose him to the world. She also put herself in mortal danger just to prove she was right and that's pretty selfish if you think that Superman could be helping others instead of always having to save her from situations she puts herself in. I love her enthusiasm but she was being too overzealous for her own safety and I hope she realizes that. Oh, and poor Jimmy :(
"i will publish all of Superman's secrets" but also "I'd never do that to you" ??? Gotta side with Clark on this one. He had good reason to worry, and no way of knowing she wouldn't publish all his secrets, coz "trust me bro" logic... and while it's shitty he was lying to her, her reaction to him being Superman is irrational. Blowing off how she feels about his because he was trying to keep her safe is not the right way to react. It's a bit of a writing trope, but i still hope they work through it
I'm hoping that Clark will call her out for her hypocrisy, considering she lied to him on the first day. And her reason was worse because it was selfish, she's being completely unfair. I do t know what will happen next episode, but I kinda hope her dad will show up and help her realize she has her head up her butt and apologize to Clark for overreacting
I already knew she would get upset at him for “lying” about his secret identity. But to see Clark’s reaction at the end was so upsetting to me. He’s shocked by what he just heard and you can tell he’s mad.
I get why she’s upset. Yes, lying isn’t the right thing to do. But she really needs to understand on the WHY. I’m just hoping this setback on their relationship is temporary. They are just so cute together.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Privacy and having secrets in general ISN'T necessarily the same as outright lying. It's not even a lie of omission and it certainly isn't a crime.
I like how people just assume we’re supposed to think Lois is in the right here (the episode never frames her as in the right) and that characters are not allowed to be wrong. Lois makes one mistake that in character for her to do and everyone fucking crucifies her.
"....Play what?" I just love how he tries to play dumb one last time knowing full well she won't believe him or even answer that , the voice actor portrayed that feeling really well I think.
Superman has a lot under his belt. Just his name carry’s significant weight. If his SECRET identity is revealed by Lois, not only him but his entire family is under extreme risk. Superman is in the right, however many times you twist it
They REALLY didn't need to pull this trope on her. It is a bad trait for any character and it always harms the character when the trope is pulled. You cannot look at them the same afterwards. Out of a 'great portrayal of Lois', down to the ''generic you lied to be'' character like Amber and Teela where it hurt their characters A LOT
In Superman 2 (Christopher Reeve film) Lois jumps out of a building/off the Niagara Falls to prove that Clark is actually Superman (but isn't successful). The 1978 first Superman film was a big influence on this series, surprised no-one has mentioned it much..
Lois is better than Amber (she just had to tell Mark she knew about his identity along til almost the end of the finale lmao), this is gonna resolve a better by the time the next episode but yeah it fkn hurts ;_;
I like how this isn't like invincible with Amber, how she's very clearly in the wrong but the show tries to convince you that she's in the right. this show makes them both reasonable in their own ways.
@@JaneDoe-kj2ny amber had genuinely no reason to be angry at all. Mark saved her, and then was honest with her when she wanted him to be honest, and then broke up with him? Lois was invested in finding Superman, Clark knew that, she hated liars because her dad was a liar. She’s definitely wrong, but it’s nowhere near as bad as Amber, and it makes sense why she’s angry. On top of that, the show doesn’t try in the slightest to make you think Clark is in the wrong like invincible does.
This is handled so much better than Invincible’s. All because they simply added ONE pivotal scene (at the end of episode 4) where she’s figured it out.
I honestly believe Jimmy has more right to be mad when he finds out. Louis knows clack only short time, and her will to show the world his secret identity makes him uncomfortable to share. But Jimmy is his old friend/roommate, I feel he has the right to be upset
I feel as if 99.9 percent certainty that he was Superman is still not enough to warrant jumping off a building in hopes that you would get saved. Like what if he decided to just not help her to preserve his secret. Out of character but not impossible
The infamous scene where she forces Clark Kent to reveal his identity by throwing herself off a building, despite contention from younger generations of viewers, is actually consistent with the Lois Lane character. The Lois Lane of the Silver Age comics would often recklessly put herself in danger deliberately to expose Superman and this trait was carried over to the Margo Kidder version as she would also throw herself off a building and even Niagara Falls just to try and prove that Clark Kent was Superman.
Hmm, don’t like that he is painted to be in the wrong, even when explaining that she would expose him, she still pulls the “you lied” card, but he has a great point, he doesn’t know what to believe about her considering she literally just jumped off a building, heck what if she had been wrong, still I hope they make up
On one hand I like they just rip off the band aid and get this over with. On the other hand, I understand their reactions, but boy are they both in the right and wrong. Lois might felt betrayed, but Clark has his reasons to keep his secrets. If a villain finds out about Superman being Clark, that will lead straight to his love ones, including Jimmy and Lois. However, in her defense, she despises lies due to her father lie about basically everything, including her mother about to die, so I can understand her reaction. However, Clark only kept this secret from her not just because of her protection, but also scared that she will post basically every single secret on him, not realizing Superman is right in front of her. if he didn't decided to rip the page, she probably wouldn't find out that quick that Clark is Superman. It's a domino effect of their reactions.
Lmao she did smth similar in one of the old shows. Was CONVINCED Clark was superman, and when they were out on a job, she jumped off a bridge(?) Into a river right in front of him, after accusing him. He managed to save her without outing himself, they go back to their hotel, she apologizes profusely, and somehow or another the dumbass trips and catches himself by the hands right on the hot coals of the fireplace. Ofc she's freaking out, and then sees his hands, and the jig is up and he does a total behavioral 180 But srsly how long have this clark and lois been friends? I get she's hurt, and she has a right to be upset about being lied to. But how exactly does she feel entitled to know shit about him that could (and would) put him and his family in danger? This isn't a night job he's not proud of, he's a literal extraterrestrial. What happens if people find out who he is? There are HUGE consequences. She has a right to her feelings but she doesnt get to attack him for not telling her earlier.
Hot take: Lois is about 90-95% in the wrong here. Clark being scared/cagey about Lois doxxing him is very understandable… but also with just enough irrational fear for Lois to have good reason to be hurt by that… But other then that… They’ve known each other for what… a week?… maybe a month… AND 2/4 of the previous episodes plots have fundamentally hinged on lies/secrets Lois has spun to Clark… (arguably 3/5 if you count the mind games she’s been playing with him this episode, since that’s technically her keeping a secret and involved lying) So her playing the “Honesty Card” for why she’s burning bridges with a guy who didn’t briskly admit to this titanic level personal secret, comes off as both hypocritical and entitled. This is very much in character for her, so this definitely isn’t a story critique, but I think she’s getting a little too much sympathy right now.
The responsibility is what kept him bound for and that he will cling onto, he is not just there to lie because he wanted to, it is because he had to. When bearing the power of something greater in your hands and the responsibility that comes with it? It is sad to say that if you make others involved around you with that kind of strength...Inevitability of endangerment comes course and crashes down on us and to those connected to it. It's not that she can't handle it but because she too is not as mature as Clark. Clark is still new to this whole power of his and Lois who barely understands because she is blinded by the fact that a simple promise, is not as lash as she thought it was. *Promises are meant to be broken* We can try to simply delay it but none can come from the fact that it is futile. Simply trying to make it look like as if he was in the wrong is stupid and utterly outrageous. Reference: Spider-Man (2002) "With great power, comes with great responsibility." - Uncle Ben (Parker)
>Be Lois >Lie 3 times and risk your friends lives >Almost kill yourself to have Clark save you >"REEEEE CLARK YOU CAN'T LIE TO ME IT'S ONLY OK WHEN I DO IT. Also I won't date you now lol." Waifu status: Revoked for OSHA violations.
Okay, I have a theory for how Clark and Lois will work things out. Thanks to the ending of episode 5 and the promo for episode 6, we know that an ape like creature kidnaps Jimmy, which means Clark and Lois team up to save him. The ape is either going to be Gorilla Grodd or the Ultra-Humanite. Both are valid because Grodd is a popular DC villain and the Humanite was the first villain Superman ever fought. Whichever one they go for; both can work for the conflict of the episode. Here’s my theory for the climax of episode 6: Clark and Lois go to rescue Jimmy, but they also find out why Grodd or Humanite took him. In Grodd’s case, he’s trying to gain knowledge from different people by reading their minds. The thing he wants to know the most is Superman’s secret identity, since he seems like a powerful lifeform equal to him. He recognizes Jimmy Olsen from the news and took the opportunity to see if he knows Superman’s identity. In the case of the Ultra-Humanite, he wanted a knew body to transfer his mind to and gain new knowledge from the mind of that knew body. After rescuing Jimmy, Grodd/Humanite unleashes something to distract Superman and he kidnaps Lois instead. The reason why he kidnaps her is from observing how much Superman looks out for her, so he figures she knows who he really is. For Grodd, he tries to telepathically torture Lois until she breaks and reveals Superman’s identity. For Humanite, he tries to telepathically transfer his consciousness to her body so he can absorb her knowledge. Lois does her best to resist and Superman busts in just in time to defeat Grodd/Humanite and save her. This is when Lois realizes and understands why he didn’t want to reveal his identity to her. Not only did a villain go after her, but she could have put more people in danger if she succumbed to torture and revealed Clark’s identity. She breaks down crying and begs Clark for forgiveness. Clark of course comforts her and forgives her because he cares about her. Then maybe, just maybe, they share their first kiss on the lips. What do you think?
can we just acknowledge for a second that Lois, on a hunch, almost ended her own existence right after laying it at the feet of Clark, imagine if he wasn't superman? imagine if she just kept falling? man at least Amber had the decency to emotionally blackmail Mark to his face
On one hand Clark was afraid of telling her (or anyone for that matter) the truth about his hero identity, after all he's still new to this, on the other hand Lois is hurt that he wouldn't trust her with it, especially after 1) he called her out about lying to him in the first episode, and 2) she trusted him with some pretty personal stuff about herself
that girl has been nothing but a danger magnet and yet she feels like she earned Clark's biggest secret of his life, knew she was just a pretty face and there was still that shitty 2023 writting.
You can just tell the writers really thought they struck gold with this whilst never taking a second to think that Lois might come off as an unhinged bitch.
I see neither of you noticed how the show does not portray Lois as in the right for doing this. Characters ARE allowed to have to flaws and make mistakes, you know.
Lois should really understand that Clark lied and try to protect her and the people of Metropolis! Just like Spider-Man,Daredevil,Batman,Invincible and Moon Knight Superman have to keep his secret identity. Otherwise, the people he cares about could be killed.
I said it on other videos, and all say it again, i despise this trope when the hero identity is revealed, that people close to them get angry or pissy because they "lied", they know superman is quite almost the embodiment of a god in earth, so for him to be actually hurt is quite a feat done by powerful and evil people, imagine if those people got a grip of their identity, what would they do to those that are close to them? it's not even a thing about lies, or being angry, it takes almost no thought to realize that, especially when Lois was actively searching for superman identity to uncover it to everyone, and it annoys me more that the protagonist refuses to defend themselves, at least in invincible mark somewhat tried, but he knew that he was just threading their relationship for months by the time he revealed his identity to amber, not justifying her, but at least there he knew that he shared a bit of fault, clark barely says any words and refuses to elaborate because he got sad, brother, let the guy defend himself, that just stains an overall good show with a trash drama because only one side of the party made "solid" points. Here they just barely know each other and they hit us with that crap because they blushed a few times? it's just cheap drama that knowing this show pacing, will go away in 1-2 episodes, or not even half of the next episode.
I think it's different when the person being lied is in a mutual romantic relationship. Lois was even planning to forgive him until he revealed he didn't trust her to keep his secret. Which, fair, but at the same time, she doesn't want to enter a relationship with that baggage.
Imagine if Lois was wrong about Clark being superman. She wouldve traumatized him and everyone else in the nearby vicinity by becoming one with the sidewalk lmfaooooo
