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We have all been looking forward to this day! The 1963 Chrysler 413 with the long ram intake is on the dyno! Here we Go!
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@sambananas4513
@sambananas4513 Год назад
This wasn't an "Engine Dyno Session" this was an "Engine Dyno Art Class" . Just fantastic to watch, many thanks.
@reedcearley1392
@reedcearley1392 Год назад
Thanks Nick for having your nephew involved. Our love for these classics will die if the next generation doesnt follow in our footsteps!!
@NicksGarage
@NicksGarage Год назад
He would not have it any other way. Niko loves his time at the shop.
@tonydjr.8593
@tonydjr.8593 Год назад
As they say ? Hydraulic to solid there is a 25-30 hp inc between them . What mean 25-30 hp between a hydraulic vs solid being the power maker .
@hydroy1
@hydroy1 Год назад
@@tonydjr.8593 Agreed. Was thinking the very same thing. This proves it.
@nikobatsos6194
@nikobatsos6194 Год назад
@@NicksGarage you can say that again
@romper4444
@romper4444 Год назад
Yes you must take the time to pass on the knowledge and passion for the next generation!
@daverosemire1317
@daverosemire1317 Год назад
What an engine! You have to remember what was out there in 1963. This thing was so far ahead of its time. You can barely tell it's running at idle. What superb balance. Chrysler 300 with this engine was the ultimate 'sleeper.'
@mickangio16
@mickangio16 Год назад
I can't remember ANYBODY ever testing, tuning, or tinkering on the legendary and mysterious Chrysler cross ram engines whether in magazines, videos, television... That was great, Nick. It's very nice to see Nikko's admiration and respect for ol' Uncle Nick. Young people probably don't know how much that means to old guys like us.
@wokewokerman5280
@wokewokerman5280 Год назад
Totally agree, that is such a cool and smooth engine, super neat to see one resurrected by Nick, who tell the whole story...
@kenkelble358
@kenkelble358 Год назад
i want one.
@jamesmcwilliams7318
@jamesmcwilliams7318 11 месяцев назад
I bought a 300G in 1971 for $150.00, with 30 or more cans of BarsLeak between the A/C condenser and radiator( a d blown head gaskets). Pulled it down / put gaskets on and owned it 4 year. Long ram intake was red , but engine was NOT blue on that '61. Air cleaners were same Gold. Felt like ya fell off a cliff when you laid the ears back on it. That's probably where the 100 dollar bill on the dash challenge started. Four bucket seats, cable driven tach in the full length chrome console. Running top end with a hot Sportster my buddy had to glance at the speedo "cause the road looked about 4 feet wide and center white stripe was Solid white. Charlie said he saw 135 on that 150mph speedo I backed off For fear of pulling the Sportster off in our draft.
@patrickwayne3701
@patrickwayne3701 Год назад
Tears of pride Nick. I have that setup in my 300K. There's NOTHING like rolling the carbs open and listening to the barometric pressure come down in the immediate area, and feeling that big Chrysler start to move out just slipping the rear tires a little more than it's making way, down the road.
@johnlorusso1835
@johnlorusso1835 Год назад
Patrick any reason these 300 cars were so expensive this car cost the owner over 5 tho!! A crazy price in 1963
@fastyzzzff
@fastyzzzff Год назад
What cfm are those carters?
@fastyzzzff
@fastyzzzff Год назад
It's like $50,000 in today's money sounds about right for a new loaded 300m
@patrickwayne3701
@patrickwayne3701 Год назад
@John Lorusso Gotta remember,,, these were riding the wave of 'the letter cars' back then,,, which were the Hemi Chargers of today. So, they commanded a premium over a regular family Chrysler.....
@johnlorusso1835
@johnlorusso1835 Год назад
@@patrickwayne3701 great! Thanks for the reply!!
@robertotwell8664
@robertotwell8664 Год назад
I enjoyed the nostalgia of seeing the 413 long ram on the dyno. As I commented on the 413 head work video, in 1967 I drove a 1964 300K which had this same engine. The big torque curve at low and mid range made the 300K a sleeper that could terrorize unsuspecting victims. The Chrysler 300 letter series cars were known as “bankers' hot rods." Sales of the 300 letter cars plummeted when the 392 hemi was replaced by the wedge. The neck snapping acceleration of the hemi is why people bought the car - top speed was not important. The 413 and 383 could not compete with the newer Chevys and Fords. The Chrysler engineers trumped the competition in 1965 with the 440 high-deck and the 426 hemi. The increased deck height allowed the engines to rev much higher because of more hold-up time (power is rpm times torque). The 440 became very popular - it was cheaper and lighter than the hemi. The basic 426 hemi design is still the only engine used in top fuel and funny cars.
@michaelsquires1218
@michaelsquires1218 Год назад
In 1961 my grandmother's car was a 300 with the 413 long ram. A terrifying car. The odd thing was that my grandmother was a terrible driver with no sense of modulation - she went down the street in a series of leaps.
@455buick6
@455buick6 Год назад
Lol, I've only known one other person like that, they could only drive foot to the floor and completely off the gas, nothing in between, I was like WTF is wrong with this dude and it didn't matter what traffic was like, race up to the rear of a car then back off, repeat as necessary 😜
@robertbairt9094
@robertbairt9094 Год назад
Rod&pivot style (non cable) carb/'s linkage would bind and could also stick wide open such as a 1965 olds Dyn 88 🚀 425 when Dr side motor mount breaks🙈 used to add a safety cable on SS 396 to frame&block👍
@JamesLoch-ky3un
@JamesLoch-ky3un 7 месяцев назад
Dangerous machine if you don't know what your doing
@johnkendall6962
@johnkendall6962 Год назад
Cool story. Our town has Chryslers oldest dealer. In the late fifties they ran the private Chrysler car on the flying mile at Daytona beach and the driver worked for the dealership. My friend owned a new Impala with a 409. The local police ran Pontiacs for cruisers. My friend was being chased by the police on route 30 when a Chrysler came up behind and passed the police car, passed him and the last he saw was the tail lights going over South mountain.
@eugenepolan1750
@eugenepolan1750 Год назад
For a comparrison between the long ram and the 4-Barrel induction systems, you should plot the horsepower and torque for each on the same graph. The shapes of the curves and where they cross over would be interesting to see.
@drover338
@drover338 Год назад
Love the act of Nick's Nephew offering to step up and do additional work without being asked. You dont see that kind of work ethic in a lot of younger people these days.
@nikobatsos6194
@nikobatsos6194 Год назад
It’s a privilege for Nick to teach me and show me these great engines, it’s the least I could do and I enjoy every minute of it
@joejoejoejoejoejoe4391
@joejoejoejoejoejoe4391 Год назад
Where I work the young ones are at one extreme or the other, either totally useless, or very competent with a strong work ethic, at least it makes it easy to sort the wheat from the chaff.
@drover338
@drover338 Год назад
@@nikobatsos6194 Carry on Niko. You will go far with the past down knowledge of your Uncle. Simple things can turn into Big things.... Hope you enjoy and pickup your Uncles enthusiasm for legendary engines!
@markmark2080
@markmark2080 Год назад
How fondly I remember my early teens and the days of the 406, 409, the 413 and The Beach Boys song "Shut Down"...I didn't like the looks of the early '60s Chrysler produced cars at the time, but that changed fast in the mid '60s...What a beautiful classic engine.
@johngardner2807
@johngardner2807 Год назад
The 413 was an awesome engine. My buddy from school was given one by his grandfather.,in 1967,and he was told"It was made to RUN,boy,so don't dog it,..DRIVE it!" We're both 70+ now,and he still has it.
@hunnybunnysheavymetalmusic6542
Something most people fail to understand is that the CTR, was DESIGNED for high TORQUE rather than top end horsepower. As Mario Andretti used to say: "Horsepower sells cars, but TORQUE wins races!"
@chrisanderson6837
@chrisanderson6837 Год назад
Long runners good for big torque. Chrysler always had the cool looking stuff that no One else had. What a wow factor when you lift the hood. Love it
@texdentist
@texdentist Год назад
I drove a 1963 Chrysler 300J several times around 1966. My dad's friend had one and paid me to come pick it up and wash and detail it. You can imagine what a 16 year old kid did with it when no one was looking. My love for muscle in cars started with this car. It was heavy, but compared to almost anything else on the road, it had serious guts when you got on it. White car with a champagne colored leather interior. What a dream drive! This project is definitely bringing back memories.
@texdentist
@texdentist Год назад
Hearing the guys talk about torque for passing, I remembered one time when I rode with the owner to Abilene, TX from Dallas. This was before I-20 was built, and the road was one lane each way and heavy with truck traffic. You occasionally got behind long trains of 18 wheelers and had to find a time to try to pass. One time the owner decided to pass a long line of trucks. I counted as we passed and there were 12 of them. That 300J was a rocket around that long train. I nearly soiled my pants, but we made it with room to spare.
@chrisdupuy7749
@chrisdupuy7749 Год назад
I love how he tries everything, back to back runs, etc. by the time you drop your engine in your car you know it’s ready to drive it any way you want to and it will be just fine.
@davelowets
@davelowets 11 дней назад
That's the ENTIRE purpose of having an engine dyno'd.
@samcoon6699
@samcoon6699 Год назад
We all wish we had an Uncle like Nick. Back when engine designers didn't have restrictions they were able to produce incredible products. Now if you want more HP/TQ it's all computer related.
@seangoodman665
@seangoodman665 Год назад
I was at Motorama when Donny Oake dropped off the carbs. I’ve know the Oakes , father Dave & sons Donny & Daryl for over 20 years . They are the best . 500 ft lbs is impressive. It’s the torque that moves you. That big cars needs torque. I’m sure the owner will be very happy. It’s the torque that you feel when you step on the gas. Well done !
@johndeeregreen4592
@johndeeregreen4592 Год назад
Those old cross ram 413s were only around 375hp from the factory, but they produced TQ and HP at such a low RPM they were beasts stoplight to stoplight and on the strip, and did so with even a modest gear ratio to preserve a little top end.
@doomman700
@doomman700 Год назад
That’s it he keeps saying 390 , but they were 375
@johndeeregreen4592
@johndeeregreen4592 Год назад
@@doomman700, there was a different version of the engine with 13.5:1 compression, larger head ports, and some other tuning differences. Those were rated at 425hp, but were actually closer to 500hp. The one on Nick's dyno is the 375hp version.
@jasonbose3507
@jasonbose3507 Год назад
I love seeing two generations of family helping and teaching each other, way to go Nick on working with family!!!
@samuelgoodman2825
@samuelgoodman2825 Год назад
The look of satisfaction on Nick's face when the glove trick worked,priceless.
@NicksGarage
@NicksGarage Год назад
😃
@davidarmstrong7628
@davidarmstrong7628 Год назад
Thankfully the gloves didn't get sucked in....
@markflowers1953
@markflowers1953 Год назад
​@@NicksGarage it's awesome seeing these old engines brought back to life. Thanks for another great video!
@brownwrench
@brownwrench Год назад
This effect of the long runners is why the slant 6 manifold is how it is. Each pair of runners is ramming at max efficiency at a certain rpm. Makes for a nice flat torque curve. Torque is where the fun is
@wedge4hire
@wedge4hire Год назад
Dynos don't lie! Just recently, Nick showed how efficient the cast iron exhaust manifolds are on a 528 Hemi! Today, the dyno speaking loud and clear, once again, with astounding torque numbers on this RB intake system! Another tribute to the Chrysler engineers! On the street, torque is king!!!
@tinkertech-yu5co
@tinkertech-yu5co Год назад
Fun rebuild. Brought back many memories. I had a 1962 300F 413 with dual cross ram manifolds. I don't remember if it was a factory feature or not, it had ram air ducts from the headlight area through mesh filters and tight onto the carbs. It was a real beast, and luxurious, all leather, diamond white, with full power seats that swiveled out, rear buckets, push button gear selector on dash, and even came with ambulance tires. Talk about torque, and horse power was awesome--I recall it was only "rated at 335hp" but you could feel the power boost with speed. And we had premium white pump!
@MrJohnnyDistortion
@MrJohnnyDistortion 2 месяца назад
Ambulance tires?
@dexterplant778
@dexterplant778 Год назад
I've been waiting for these number results for over 45 years, how exciting.
@nickpanaritis4122
@nickpanaritis4122 Год назад
WOW. That is a long time.
@mevinson
@mevinson Год назад
Nick, We live within hearing distance of the Chrysler Proving Grounds in Chelsea Mich. We have been hearing some engines that have the old rumble of the sixties and seventies. We are over 70 years old and have been here since 1972 and I will tell you, It thrills our hearts to hear those muscle engines again!
@nickpanaritis4122
@nickpanaritis4122 Год назад
You must have seen and heard all kinds of Mopars at Chelsea proving grounds.
@alexandertoshich765
@alexandertoshich765 Год назад
Yep! Dad worked at the proving grounds during the 60’s 70’s and 80’s. Dad had some interesting stories
@paw45
@paw45 9 месяцев назад
My grandfather had a 413 crossram in the 60's. In the late 50's he started out as a mechanic at the Dodge, Chrysler, Plymouth dealership. In the 70's, He retired as the general manager at the same dealership. He always drove the best muscle cars of the 60's and 70's. He sold my father a new all Black, 1974 Dodge Charger SE. In 1979 that Charger became my first car in high school.
@mgoxendine
@mgoxendine Год назад
when nick asked niko if he ever installed a carb I was like whoa😮 couple minutes later I realize niko knows carbs a little I hope he can carry on uncle Nick's passion...
@ajcaiati
@ajcaiati 7 месяцев назад
In 1971 I was 18 years old and just like any other gear head. But we were poor for the most part. I survived! These were the only cars I could afford. I paid my own insurance and whatever else. I was always responsible. I really took care of my cars and pickups as I got older. Thanks again. Your Nephew is awesome, teach him the ropes Nick!
@DonRRicks
@DonRRicks Год назад
HOTDANG!!! A cool and overcast Texas afternoon and 90 minutes of Nick, Niko and the 413 (426) on the dyno. Better than hiding from tornados in the storm cellar like last week. Thank you Nick and George! Great video, and I’ve already shared it with my son and grandson as well as my two brothers.
@NicksGarage
@NicksGarage Год назад
Yee-haw! Thanks Don.
@franklindreidsr518
@franklindreidsr518 Год назад
Thank you for this video, showing the way ( engines ) were. History!
@saltycreole2673
@saltycreole2673 Год назад
Amen Brother. It's the little things that make big noise that count. 😂 Blessings.
@missingremote4388
@missingremote4388 Год назад
I remember my grandson 15 y/o
@americanrambler4972
@americanrambler4972 Год назад
This engine is basically pure factory stock specification! Stock intake, stock exhaust manifolds, stock carbs, stock heads, near stock cam profile and even stock air cleaners! And the power loss with the air cleaners is vary low! Only a couple of hp and pounds of torque. This is a great engine package for a big street car. Loved this test!
@michaelnault5905
@michaelnault5905 Год назад
I think Chrysler put that long ram intake in a couple models, including their ultra deluxe wagon. Boulevard performance as opposed to race track speed. I think you guys nailed it.
@timmotel5804
@timmotel5804 Год назад
The early years of "muscle cars" like this one and onward were magical. I'm so fortunate to have lived and enjoyed those times. I've always been a Mopar guy, owning three 440 magnums a 383 and a 340. Glad you love um too. This particular engine is one that I have always admired since I was a kid and it's looking good. Best Regards to you and Nico, your fortunate student. It's so cool that the Chrysler engineers were allowed to do inventive experimental and creative things like this.
@stevelacker358
@stevelacker358 Год назад
I love the way you can see the ram tuning effect pushing fuel and air backwards and up out of the carbs as it passes through a resonance RPM (see the pull starting at 32:30). Those carbs have a tough job metering fuel across the whole band in a setup like this, but they do it. A system like the long ram would probably be best suited to a flat plane crank where the intake pulses always alternate between banks, instead of having 8-4 and 5-7 pulling from the same carb twice while the air on the other side is dead twice. The balance tube addresses that, but I’m sure it’s not ideal. Very, very cool stuff.
@brentmazur9518
@brentmazur9518 Год назад
I was hoping someone would comment on that. Thanks for the info.
@kevinknight470
@kevinknight470 Год назад
You got it right, great info explaining fuel and air pushing backwards.😃
@kathyandchrismiller3543
@kathyandchrismiller3543 Год назад
The J300 was my first car in 1968,I was 16. I bought it from a used car dealer for 700$. It was missing the crossram,it had a 4 barrel on a cast iron intake. I put a Holley 780 with a hit rise on it .I had a lot of fun with this car.I think I remember 0-60 in. Close to 6 seconds. I ran that thing to 6 grand all the time.Your show is great, thank you.
@danielsacks7152
@danielsacks7152 Год назад
That is a real professional job! The motor looks as awesome as it runs! The owner will surely have the "Mopar Grin" ear to ear the first time he trips it!
@chipps1066
@chipps1066 Год назад
My first car was a Buick GS455,that car was rated 360hp and 510 ft lbs of torque from the factory,she was always stock and pulled like there was no tomorrow..I was once told by a dragracer,torque outruns hp.
@455buick6
@455buick6 Год назад
The hemi killer engine 💯
@BTandKM111
@BTandKM111 Год назад
GS455 was R/T Fastest car one year. Maybe 71?!
@jtc1964x
@jtc1964x 11 месяцев назад
The fastest timed stock muscle car was the Road Runner with the 440 6 pack - 12.91. The Hemi Cuda, GS455, and Chevelle 454SS were all clustered around 13.1
@chipps1066
@chipps1066 11 месяцев назад
@@jtc1964x You are correct,the 440 -6 would outrun the Hemi in the quarter.
@myleghurts3546
@myleghurts3546 Год назад
13:20 You keep an eye on him, Niko!
@cambrian7119
@cambrian7119 Год назад
Hi, Nick; I owned a 60 300F with the same 413 engine with 30" runners. The engine called for 100 octane fuel which was readily available in those days. The difference between regular and premium fuel was only 3 or 4 cents a gallon. You will attain the hp number you're looking for if you use 100 octane gas. I enjoy your show.
@victoryfirst2878
@victoryfirst2878 Год назад
I thank God we have you Nick to show us all on RU-vid what OLD MUSCLE CAR is, PERIOD !! YOU ROCK FELLA for sure. Nice to see a young aprentice learning and taking an interest in OLD SCHOOL STUFF !!!!
@davidstuck2866
@davidstuck2866 Год назад
do you know what the coolest part of this video is? the look on Niko's face after he revved that monster up. a new generation of hot rodder is coming of age!
@Anita67
@Anita67 Год назад
Yes! I noticed that too. It was like a spark was ignited 😊
@nikobatsos6194
@nikobatsos6194 Год назад
That was such an amazing feeling
@gmcnelly2468
@gmcnelly2468 Год назад
I am not a Chrysler guy, but this is my all-time favorite intake!
@steveosborn7991
@steveosborn7991 Год назад
I watch all of Nick’s videos. I’ve waited on this one more than any other. In 1966 I rode with one of my friends Uncle in his 1964 300 K. It smoked the little bias ply tires at 85mph passing a grain truck on a little highway in NM. That car belongs to one of his nephews now. It is not running but in decent shape. He plans on restoring it. I was 12 and that car forever gave me the fever for fast cars.
@davelowets
@davelowets 11 дней назад
An 85mph rolling burnout? NO way...
@goldcfi7103
@goldcfi7103 Год назад
Kudos to the gentleman that rebuilt and set up the carbs. Outstanding!
@eugenecastles7475
@eugenecastles7475 Год назад
The long ram 413 on the dyno, it doesn't get much better than that on a Monday. I have been waiting to see what numbers the 413 makes with the dual ram intake. Here we go!!!
@NicksGarage
@NicksGarage Год назад
We had a lot of fun with this one. Thanks for joining us for the results.
@paulterhaar4218
@paulterhaar4218 Год назад
Its a short ram!
@eugenecastles7475
@eugenecastles7475 Год назад
@@paulterhaar4218 It's a long/ short ram, to be exact.
@chriswalshe499
@chriswalshe499 Год назад
@@paulterhaar4218what's the difference between long/ short cos I've noticed some are split all the way along and others, like this are only partially split on the outside.
@danawilkes6174
@danawilkes6174 Год назад
@@chriswalshe499 Mopar had the ones that were split all the way down the middle at the start. I have ridden in those and they were out of power before 5,000 rpm. They introduced this later with the split half way down. This still gave good torque and more horsepower in the upper rpm's. So as Eugene just said. It was a long & short ram. The opening above the split acted as a plenum chamber. Mopar engineers experimented much more than the others when it came to intake manifold design.
@jamesburba1995
@jamesburba1995 Год назад
Absolutely beautiful Nick ! It's great to see your nephew involved, he couldn't have a better mentor. I love the way those long ram manifolds look.
@NicksGarage
@NicksGarage Год назад
Couldn't agree more!
@damageincorporatedmetal43v73
@@NicksGarage I used to race dirt track, and on those cold October evenings this was a trick we would use. When choke spring etc.would fail. 🤔
@PeterSmith-or3pq
@PeterSmith-or3pq Год назад
​@NicksGarage you don't those everyday
@josdaalmans6977
@josdaalmans6977 Год назад
Nice to see the youngster getting involved into big V8 engines. I had this experience when I was 15 years old. A friend did dirt racing and we bought then a 3 month's old, but wrecked '69 Dodge Charger R/T 383 (the only on the European continent at that time). That was my first touch onto the Mopar engines. I still love the V8 engines and I learned a lot about engines that time. Also that time I learned big diesels from and also the trucks, front loaders, draglines and kind of "fuel burning things". Teach "little Nico" as much as possible.
@larry-om9tg
@larry-om9tg Год назад
Had a 74 Chrysler New yorker with a 440c.i engine.Bad on gas when you stepted on it but it had power and ran smooth with 1 2brl carb.
@chrisclark9108
@chrisclark9108 Год назад
Another great one Nick, so glad Nicko asked if he could blip the carbs, wanted him to feel the human to machine interface and he will not likely see this setup anywhere else.
@18Macallan
@18Macallan Год назад
I love how humble Nick is with the apprentice Nico😊
@johnhodgson5313
@johnhodgson5313 Год назад
The chats they have together, an uncle passing on the passion to the nephew.
@leelavoie6753
@leelavoie6753 Год назад
I wondered for years how the 413’s with those long intakes could really perform!!! Sweet Torque. Thank you Nick, Nico and George! You knocked this one out of the park! 👍😃
@NicksGarage
@NicksGarage Год назад
Our pleasure!
@Anita67
@Anita67 Год назад
Another great episode! I just wanna point out, that not only is George a super cameraman, but his narration in the beginning is fantastic!
@NicksGarage
@NicksGarage Год назад
Thanks for that!
@lavaughnbrock2504
@lavaughnbrock2504 Год назад
Alsome Mopar
@YoutubeGold-dc5fd
@YoutubeGold-dc5fd Год назад
is he still wearing the stupid mask?
@davidthompson62
@davidthompson62 Год назад
Nick is worth his price in gold! As the years have gone by, fewer and fewer of mechanics have the knowledge that the old Chrysler mechanics had. These cross-ram engines were always difficult to keep in specifications but when they were they were tourque monsters. Love the videos and glad I found them.
@freespeachrulez
@freespeachrulez Год назад
Those kind of numbers from a factory built engine back in the day is highly impressive. 500ft pound at 3500rpm is no joke!
@wildestcowboy2668
@wildestcowboy2668 11 месяцев назад
😮it's a MOPAR son not GM junk
@PetePiper
@PetePiper 5 месяцев назад
@@wildestcowboy2668 Are all you dodge weirdos this goofy??
@davelowets
@davelowets 11 дней назад
​@@wildestcowboy2668"G.M. junk"?? There are PLENTY of G.M. engines that made MORE torque and MORE h.p. from a factory engine than this one did.... AND did it with a single 4-barrel and regular dual plane low-rise intake.. 🤦🏻 I'm NOT calling this engine "junk" by any means, BUT it isn't the strongest one out there by FAR
@davelowets
@davelowets 11 дней назад
​@@PetePiperI'm thinking so.... 🍻
@rjminar1980
@rjminar1980 Год назад
I love the HEMI’s, the other Mopar big blocks and small blocks, honestly, I love all engines. But seeing this legend in action on the dyno was a real treat. And seeing young Niko learning and getting excited about these beautiful old engines truly gives me hope for the future. Love the channel!
@dannymostarac1799
@dannymostarac1799 11 месяцев назад
Torque monster!
@jamesglass5402
@jamesglass5402 Год назад
I had heard of the 413 but I never saw one. My dad’s brother worked for a Chrysler dealer as a mechanic from 1959 until the Chrysler shut down. He once owned a DeSoto, from the last year that they were manufactured. He was so proud of that car.
@jeremiahchamberlin4499
@jeremiahchamberlin4499 Год назад
I’ve been waiting for this video ever since Mike dropped it off. Watching Mike and Nick that day was my first view of Nick’s Garage. I’ve been back many times, catching up on 4 years or more of great RU-vid video. Again, I can’t get enough of Nick’s Garage or this particular engine/body combination. I’ll never forget driving my Dad’s ‘63 Chrysler New Yorker with a 383. I would be doing over 80 mph when my Dad would chime in, “Watch your speed.” Actually, I was watching my speed and enjoying every minute. Such a smooth ride, so much effortless power.
@gcrauwels941
@gcrauwels941 Год назад
That torque coming in at a lower rpm is really cool. This thing reminds me such much of my '64 New Yorker with a 413. I did some mild upgrades to it. Total sleeper.
@gavinmclaren9416
@gavinmclaren9416 Год назад
I'm sure that Mike will be happy with the engine in his 300-J. You commented that the fuel in the '60s might be different. A 100 octane fuel from the '60s is about equivalent in octane to the Petro-Can 94 you are using, but if there is no spark knock, then the octane number will not influence power. As for energy content, which will affect power, the old fuels might have the edge, depending on how they were blended. If the '60s gasoline contained more reformate and less cat cracker gas, it would have slightly higher energy content. Nowadays, 94 is blended to contain less reformate and more iso-octane, plus some ethanol. The ethanol has less energy, but iso-octane is a near-perfect fuel. All in all, I doubt that there would be more than 5 HP from the best case to the worst case. Incidentally, most (if not all) of the iso-octane in Canada is made in Edmonton, so maybe along with the valve covers, we also sent you some horsepower from Alberta!
@captainrawn
@captainrawn Год назад
Alberta Rocks! Cheers from Calgary!
@bryanaisenbrey7188
@bryanaisenbrey7188 Год назад
Nice video, Nick. Tom Hoover certainly knew what he was doing when they designed these. Way ahead of their time. Now, with fuel injection, most manufacturers utilize these set ups. They can design them in a round shape, since they only need to flow air.
@karlsmink7037
@karlsmink7037 Год назад
I can't wait to see the face of the customer when he drives it the first time. You guys have done great, and brought the pages of the Chrysler history book to life.
@stevelee5724
@stevelee5724 Год назад
That was the biggest grin when Niko gave the 413 a rev...Get you one Niko !
@hendo337
@hendo337 Год назад
From what I remember, Engine Masters and Richard Holdner have run old motorhome 440s on the Dyno, even with aftermarket intakes, carbs and header and they didn't make anywhere near this power in the General Mayhem '69 Charger. This Sonoramic Commando 426ci would be a huge step up.
@jeremiahchamberlin4499
@jeremiahchamberlin4499 Год назад
I love the way Nick gives his nephew permission, “Do you want me to hook it up?” “Yeah, go ahead.” It means a lot to get that kind of encouragement when you’re just starting out. Nick has such a gentle touch, considering how hard he drives himself. Just my two cents.
@mhuppertz
@mhuppertz Год назад
Glad to see you prepping the next generation, seems like a good kid willing to soak it in, and you are a very good teacher.
@TheTrueVoiceOfReason
@TheTrueVoiceOfReason Год назад
That is one sweet piece of history. And to see a couple of giddy, gigling grinning kids bouncing around with excitement, while Nico watches and helps with a real sense of awe. You are so lucky, Nico. I can see this has been a big day for you, as it should be. Thanks, Nick. An absolutely amazing 90 minutes.
@cliffords.8341
@cliffords.8341 Год назад
Hey Nick, in the video with the single 4 barrel carburetor I guess you'll get at least 25lb ft of torque and at least 10hp more with the stock intake and carburetors. Well one out of two isn't bad. 😁 Being a retired motorcycle technician and machinist for mostly Japanese brands, what you did to freshen up that engine you improved the performance by milling the block .015" to get more compression and doing a better valve job including modifying the bowl area in the valve seat and port area on both intake and exhaust to increase CFM, my guess is that the torque and hp #'s that were published was high unless the fuel back then produced more power. From what I understand, fuel was much better back then except the Led in it was not good for the lungs. Awesome video Nick. 🧓👍
@larrytucker2938
@larrytucker2938 Год назад
Back in the '60's Sunoco gas octane was rated 90(lawn mowers;93(regular);97.5(premium);102 (super premium...blue in color). It's tough using today's fuel to equal the hp. produced then.
@nickpanaritis4122
@nickpanaritis4122 Год назад
Good point.
@ajcaiati
@ajcaiati 7 месяцев назад
Nick, when I was 18 years old. I bought a 1961 Chrysler New Yorker for $50.00. It had the 413, all I did was put points, condenser, plugs, rotor, cap, and wires. That engine was a monster. I had so much fun with that big boat. I even took a 68 Road Runner 4 Sd out of the hole! I couldn’t believe it either! Thanks for the memories
@jeffjankiewicz5100
@jeffjankiewicz5100 Год назад
What a torque monster! Good to see your nephew taking an interest so you can pass on the knowledge to a new generation. Bravo Nick. Stay safe all, God Bless.
@TomPauls007
@TomPauls007 Год назад
I NEVER get tired of hearing the power growl of a big block on its curve!! Awesome looking engine.
@kevkeary4700
@kevkeary4700 2 месяца назад
Nick is like a brain surgeon with engines, it is amazing to watch him, we don't know what is knows and what he doesn't know is smaller than what most people will ever know.
@jeremiahchamberlin4499
@jeremiahchamberlin4499 Год назад
Yeah, I love to see Nick finally use the choke; it is very important to choke the air intake to get the motor started. I’ve never understood Nick’s aversion to using the choke to start the engine. But he’s the engine builder, I’m just the poor user trying to take care of my engine. 😮
@davidmcduffie1398
@davidmcduffie1398 Год назад
I remember one of our locals ( here in southeast Texas ) who's father owned a Mopar dealership raced a 1961 Plymouth Belvedere with a 413 max wedge in the super stock automatic class at our local drag strip. What a pleasure watching and hearing him run, awesome ! Nick, you sure brought back some memories ! ! ! Thank you for that !
@waltermcmahan5096
@waltermcmahan5096 Год назад
I really dig it . Ole school horse power from the factory. Awesome job NICK and crew😊
@NicksGarage
@NicksGarage Год назад
Right on!
@fredwalt2282
@fredwalt2282 Год назад
Every minute of this episode was awesome. Favorite moment was, Niko goosing the throttle !!! The best !!!
@adcoxrobert3786
@adcoxrobert3786 Год назад
Gotta love it. Sound waves were used for a supercharging effect. Bravo Mopar and Nick.
@flatbrokemodsquad4241
@flatbrokemodsquad4241 Год назад
What supercharging effect? Usually an effect of superchargers is hp. This got 375 hp and it revved to 5,000 rpm. yawn
@adcoxrobert3786
@adcoxrobert3786 Год назад
@@flatbrokemodsquad4241 Get back to me when you learn something about engineering, other than from Google University.
@jerryperdew9231
@jerryperdew9231 Год назад
Put the air cleaner base on to smooth out the air flow into the carb will pick up a few HP.
@wedge4hire
@wedge4hire Год назад
I didn't believe the old technology could keep up with new, but man, I was wrong!!! I believe the best torque numbers with the four barrel induction was arouond 460 ft/lbs! The long ram induction hit 500! Congrats to Chrysler engineers, that long ram intake is something special!!! Great job, Nick!!
@greggarner4477
@greggarner4477 Год назад
Thank you Nick! You keep these classics alive! All of them, regardless of make of model. The young guys you take under your wing and teach the right way are the future of tthese great muscle cars! Thank you and thank those younger generations who love these timeless treasures!!! Nothing but love!!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤
@clarebutterfield6927
@clarebutterfield6927 Год назад
Thank you, Nick! These are engines that are legends! Whether a 361, 383 or 413 with the same setup, they ruled the road!
@NicksGarage
@NicksGarage Год назад
My pleasure!
@360RTZoD
@360RTZoD Год назад
I wonder what those long rams would do on a 440? Thanks for all the testing and results. Awesome engine and looks totally alien.
@normmcrae1140
@normmcrae1140 Год назад
Shut you down with a 289 vs a 413 SS? NOT LIKELY!!!!! Describe that engine in one word? AWESOME! I remember seeing an old Hot Rod type magazine with a late 1920's or early 30's Chrysler Phaeton with a 413 Long ram engine in it - of course the sides of the hood had to be removed for the engine just to sit there - it was SO WIDE. It was one of THE COOLEST cars I have EVER seen. VERY tasteful in Cream with Brown fenders and pinstripes. And the Long-Ram engine was the pièce de résistance!
@joeljenkins2876
@joeljenkins2876 Год назад
Man, was I waiting for this one!!! I figured that long ram intake would make strong torque, and it DIDN'T DISAPPOINT!!! Great job, Nick and guys!!! I know, Nick, you HAD to be proud having Nikko there with you, right in the thick of it: he looked like he was having an absolute blast!!! Great stuff, and George, FANTASTIC production skills!!! Manny was right on with his description of how those long runners produce that supercharging effect at the lower rpm band. KUDOS, NICK!!!
@donsteven236
@donsteven236 Год назад
Great job guys. Chrysler was ahead of the game with their engineers!!
@mikeg4163
@mikeg4163 Год назад
The reversion / fuel standoff over the carbs is cool looking
@gitchermotrrunnin
@gitchermotrrunnin Год назад
I noticed when I could see the bottom of the carbs that the primaries are smaller than the secondaries. That would make sense for fuel mileage when you have both carbs opening at the same time. Great job by Nick & Co. those torque numbers were not seen until the big GM 455 engines of the '69-70's.
@gmpltd114
@gmpltd114 Год назад
Wow what a wonderful engine Nick, and good on young Nico for learning the ropes. We need young men like him coming through to look after our old Mopars. Greg, New Zealand.
@wokewokerman5280
@wokewokerman5280 Год назад
That crazy engine is so smooth...I really like it... so cool
@Cservoss25
@Cservoss25 Год назад
God bless you Nick, for teaching the younger generations about these wonderful engines and cars. Love the Videos keep up the good work.
@markahad6583
@markahad6583 Год назад
Hats off to those Chrysler engineers. Wow!
@jdmmike7225
@jdmmike7225 Год назад
Man seeing Nico learning from Nick takes me back to when I was learning rotary's from my late father. He had two loves when it came to engines, old school Mopar's and Mazda rotary's, an odd combination to be sure lol. Before he passed in 2020 he had assembled 63 2 rotor & 6 3 rotor engine's, so it's likely if he didn't know about it, it wasn't worth knowing. I'm not nearly to his numbers, I've assembled 18 2 rotors and I'm hoping to build my first 3 rotor very soon. Great video by the way 🤙 What an awesome rare piece. Keep up the great work fellas ✌️
@davidedgar2818
@davidedgar2818 Год назад
This is an amazing rescue of a tired old motor. Only so few built and this one has a whole new life. Nick you should be proud to keep a historic item still relevant. I'd be proud to have this beauty in any muscle Dodge ( or Plymouth). It's a torque master factory built. Imagine this coupled with an overdrive tranny. You could tear up some asphalt with it✨✨✨✨🌟
@MB-xz1gh
@MB-xz1gh Год назад
That would be kool in a early 30's dodge 5 window with just the hood..carbs sticking out the sides
@chipps1066
@chipps1066 Год назад
This is the most excited I have ever seen you dynoing an engine Nick!
@calavanjodigger1485
@calavanjodigger1485 Год назад
This has become my favorite episode ...just love that 413 and how it runs ...beautiful !!
@bobkonradi1027
@bobkonradi1027 Год назад
At about 25:42 I noticed that there is a provision in the dyno's software for AFR-1 and AFR-2, so each carb AFR can be monitored separately. A cool feature. The people at SuperFlow dyno must have had this manifold in mind when they designed it. Now, as to numbers.. the ram made max torque @ 3400 rpm. (500 lbs / ft). The single 4-bbl manifold made 459 lbs @3400, vs 470 lbs @ 3900. So the rams made 41 lbs more torque than the 4-bbl at the same rpm. On the street, its torque that does the job. Actually, HP is just an expression of torque at a certain rpm. HP = Tq at any certain rpm (HP = torque x rpm, then divide by 5252.). Last week I had predicted the ram manifold would produce only a varianse of 5-6 pounds from 3800-5400, and I was wrong. So I stand corrected. Apologies to all. Never the less, it focused its max torque more in the usable range for a big, heavy car than the modern 4-bbl. Nick, I thought you had said one time that the supplied Carter carbs were 750 crm; if this is correct, I wonder if (2) Edelbrock / Carters @ 600 cfm would have been a better fit.? Thanks to Nick and thanks to his customer for giving us a glimpse of what it took to be the king of the hill back in the early and middle 1960s.
@thegrantdanielsband
@thegrantdanielsband Год назад
This is why you take your motor to Nick's Garage he cares and Know's his Stuff!! I would certainly get Him to rebuild an engine if i needed one done without a doubt 🙂
@I.Live4oldcars.prospecting
@I.Live4oldcars.prospecting Год назад
That 413 is awesome in every way Nick. It looks beautiful, sounds beautiful, and the torque and hp are fantastic. Awesome work Nick 👍👍
@scottbell440
@scottbell440 Год назад
Hey Nick, thank you so much for posting this fantastic series of videos on this great and rare Chrysler muscle car and its incredible engine. I absolutely love vintage high performance engineering, especially from Chrysler Corp. This video proves the engineering concepts behind ram induction, and cracking the bellcrank pivot open and watching the instant throttle response and the awesome sounds this engine makes is indeed what it's all about! I also own a 63 Chrysler 300 J with the original solid lifter camshaft, and it runs (very) strong. The reliefs in the stock air cleaners go on the outside edges, they are for hood spring clearance when the engine moves when revved. Speaking of which, the stock engine mounts tend to break on these, and are hard to find and expensive. I drilled mine out and ran a 3/8" grade 8 bolt through each mount, and it does not cause a major increase in engine vibrations being transmitted into the body of the car, and then you do not have to worry about breaking the mounts. Also, i might suggest that you get a copy of the factory 300 J shop manual supplement, as it has all of the measurements, specifications and procedures for setting the complicated throttle and transmission kickdown linkage adjustments, etc. By the way, the factory 727 transmissions in these are basically the same one installed behind Max Wedge engines. I might also suggest that you have the power steering gearbox rebuilt while the engine is still out, as it is very difficult to remove with the engine in the car, because of the cast iron headers. There is also a rubber insulator that goes on the end of the steering shaft that you can buy on Ebay, and a small copper ground strap for the horn to work that goes over the insulator. Thanks again so much for these awesome videos!
@Fleetwoodjohn
@Fleetwoodjohn Год назад
VERY COOL!!! This engine rivals the HEMI in my book for mystique. Really cool to see what the difference actually was and prove the setup it works!
@williammaceri8244
@williammaceri8244 Год назад
Wow! Great video. I love the sound of a big block V8. I've rebuilt several engines in the past, all Fords, although I've been around a lot of Mopars in the past. A few 383s and 440s. I could just imagine how Nick and Nico felt when this engine started for the first time. After a long time building it, there's nothing like the feeling of when it turns over and starts running on its own. It makes you feel so accomplished. Thank you for sharing this moment with us. I love the 60s Chryslers. I love everything about them, including the sound of the Chrysler starters. That sound brings back great memories. I know there's no place Nick would rather be, right t here with his 413. I would also add Nico is very lucky to be a part of this fantastic 413 engine. most of the kids today will know how much fun it is to have a big block V8 in their lives. Chrysler has had some major automotive engineering firsts. I'm so glad Chrysler is still with us. This is my first time watching one of Nick's videos. Nick I'm sure is happy to be sharing his knowledge with Nico. There's a great bond when you're able the teach someone what you know. This video got me pretty emotional, in a good way, I sure didn't expect that. Best of luck to both of you. Have fun!
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