Longer & Lighter Driver = More Distance? 

"OnehundredandEIGGGGHHHHTYYYY" really brought a smile to me face.

Its does work, you need to try it ! Just got fit for this shaft at TXG. Going from a Graphite Design IZ shaft to this, I have gained about 20 yards.......Thanks Dean (TXG Fitter) for your help.

Lol I feel personally attacked by Matt's fairway finder swing

Really love the inclusion of the moving the weight to the toe. Let’s us know that it’s not Just a plug and play solution and that there is still risk (quick hooks) that come into play.

Currently gaming a 46" SpeederNX 50S. Tipped 2”, with my 8* TSi3 head @C4 (8.75* Flat). Neutral weight position and Swing weight @D5. Performs with similar tip action to my Ventus Red but with more load in the butt section. I went from a push cut/slice player, to a push draw/push player. Its free'd me up so much and the ball sails!

need a vanquish 4tx vs brava x vs autoflex 505xx please

Thank u gents! That answered a lot questions about this shaft!

After Driver shaft testing this winter I was still looking for yardage. I purchased Garaffaloy ProLaunch Blue 45gm driver shaft. Installed at 45.5", picked up 20 yards and got better head feel. Based on this experiment a higher quality shaft could produce even more yardage.

Great content guys.

I've only just realised how much difference a shaft makes. I was fitted with a 70gm xstiff shaft in my ping g425 driver 2.5 yrs ago when I started playing. In spite of lots of lessons and drills and practice I was still fighting a massive slice and I was disappointed with the distance. After some research I tried a few shafts and settled on a 60gm stiff 6.0 hazardous smoke rdx. The difference is amazing. It's almost impossible to lose right and it's just so easy to hit the ball straight now. I also picked up an easy 15mts of carry. I had a couple of swings with the old shaft which now feels like a telegraph pole and could feel the extra work I had to put in to try and square up the club face. I feel like golf just got easier.

Aldila came out with the magnum 44. They even had a tx stiff that came in at 49 grams raw weight and a torque of 3.9! Shaft was amazing.

Very impressive shaft. One thing for sure at close to $400 US, it is far more cost effective than AutoFlex.

Great video. Can I ask a few things about this? Why change from TSR2 to TSR3? What was the swingweight of both clubs? Presume longer should be heavier with same headweight so did you guys remove some weight? Thanks in advance

Been toying with this concept, but I'm using a more flexible shaft, trying to recreate the autoflex feel. Using a 45g ProLaunch Blue in A-flex, but dropped the 10g weight in my LTDx for a 5g, to keep the swing weight down. Unfortunately, it's freezing cold so I can't get out to hit it, but it feels fast swinging at home.

I bought à Tour AD XC-4 Stiff from Proclubs (new uncut 159.99) tipped it 1”, threw it in my TSR2…absolutely amazing!

I think Ian just gave us permission to go to the range and hit driver relentlessly 25 times in a row for more swing speed 😆

It’s been too long since I’ve heard ONEHUNDREDANDEIGHTY!!!!! So good

I was fitted at Nakashima to a House of Forged Express at 45g and 48”. Went forever, just further right or left.

I’ve been making these for our group for a while one thing required with a taller tea for them I don’t know why maybe you can tell us but taller tee definitely helped

I wish you’d do more of these with someone with 90-105 mph swing speeds . That’s where most of us live .

I would love to see a video about selecting pre-owned clubs using a small set of swing data to get you in the ballpark of a good fit. Learning from you all has made me want to get fit of course, but realistically used clubs are my price range. It would be great to have some rough idea of what I should look for based off of some basic swing data points like club speed, launch angle, spin etc. probably a big ask but just a thought! I know it’ll never be a perfect fit or substitute a day with you in the fitting bay but it would be awesome to be more educated pre-owned buyer. Thank you for all you do! As a customer success manager in software it feel our two worlds are very similar. Just looking at different data but helping people perform their best! You have made learning this stuff so fun ❤

The 180 call is back! YES!

That was impressive the shaft held up so well at that weight

Great video guys, I would love to try lighter shafts. As I am a senior, and I could use more speed. Would those type of shafts also work for slower swing speeds? Thanks again & Merry X=Mas

There is definitely a lot of potential with this shaft, try experimenting with it more, may be the autoflex competitor

good stuff boys

A couple of questions, what kind of adapters do you all use? And what do you like and don’t about them? Are there any alternatives. Also are all of your fitting shafts gone through the pouring process?

#txg Xcaliber has been making the avalon at 50g and Tour stiff for a bit. One of the best companies I've ever built with for tolerance and that particular shaft is very Stable. You should test those

Ian! My fit is with you this Friday! Can I try this? Lol

What's scary about this video is to think that Rory is 185 mph with a 6x Ventus , approx 70g at 45" and Cameron Champ is 190+ with the Hulk TX at 44.25" !!

I purchased a Vanquish 4S for my TSR1 - I found that I had to loft up 1.5* and go .75* upright. Once I make the adjustments, 8 drives had a variance of 5 yards left to right. I'm playing 45.75" in my TSR1. Looking forward to see what this can do out on the course.

Would like to see this type of thing done with an average swing speed player, 90-100 mph but a great video.

Nice video! So it's like 20% less spin with the lighter shaft? Interesting. Not sure how much TSR2 vs TSR3 makes of a difference there. Would be great later on even see some more light weight shafts on a driver, other brands, TX models etc.

Even with me approaching 60 I have tried lighter shafts in just about all my clubs but find I lose the feel of where and what the club is doing, which shot control becomes an issue. In my new irons I opted for the heavier graphite shafts then the stock option.

just wondering for an average inconsistent golfer would shorter length and lighter shaft be a good combination .. shorter for accuracy but lighter for speed? would be a good test

NOTICE THE TWO DIFFERENT TEES: HE STARTED SHORT WITH HIS GAMER (GREEN) AND THEN WITH THE 40X HE USES THE HIGHER TEE (RED). HIGHER TEE UPWARD ANGLE OF ATTACK = LOW SPIN LOWER TEE DOWNWARD ANGLE OF ATTACK = HIGH SPIN The results are more of a reflection of tee height than the shaft but, that said, longer and lighter is a winning combo for more distance. I use a Kuro Kage 50x and love it!

Would like to see contest with this , BGT, Autoflex and any other contenders you feel relevant

I game a miyazaki c kua 45A flex , it made the club feel like i was in control . Dispersion really tightened and distance went up . Looks hideous seriously horrible but its staying in until i find something better . I had a kuro cage 60 silver stiff in prior to this which i struggled with , something different on every swing .

Any idea when these will be available online or in the shop?

Do you know how Mizuno's new 230 Driver, shaft is 3/4 inch short? I wonder if you guys could put in a normal shaft if it goes further and stays just as forgiven with higher club head speed.

Funny enough, yesterday I was whaling on my 9 yr old daughter's new driver, a junior Cobra LTDX with a 41" junior cobra shaft. I was hitting the thing within 10 yards of my gamer and the ball was going dead straight. I thought a short/light/junior-flex shaft would cause the ball to go all over the place and short and that wasn't the case.

Would love to see a comparison between this and the bgt brava

Did you tip that shaft due to the torque bieng 5.2 or would you recomend tipping it?

Remember the Cleveland XL 270, 290, 310 series with the Miazaki C. Kua shafts?

Would love to see a head to head vanquish vs ventus velocore. Love y’all’s content.

I would love to see a test of speeder nx blue, added to the test that had rdx blue, ventus blue, and currently I can't remember the 3rd shaft, done in driver and 5 wood for us slower swing speed players.

I tested the Vanquish 4s and liked it. As a club builder though the cpm being down at 235 worried me. I bought the 4x (251 cpm) and this thing really delivers. I am right around 100mph driver swing speed. My question now is do I try a 5s in a 3 wood.

How stiff was the 4x compared to other shafts like ventus blue 6x or something else?

Ian, I work at club champion at the Alabama location and I’m looking at buying a vanquish shaft when available. If I go 4x but I like playing my driver at 44.75” would you suggest maybe getting a heaving vanquish shaft or should that 4x be perfect?

Just curious. Do you guys match the swing weight between the two drivers?

If someone struggles with an out-to-in swing with the driver and high launch, could this also help?

I love the 180 audio 😂

Who else skips to the results lmao great video guys not annoying at all

any reason why you didnt go for the 4tx?

If I get about 160mph I'm usually happy. I got to get a new driver. I'm still using the Titleist 909D3 in a 44" TTDG S300! Its way WAY too heavy and too soft!

I put lead tape under my driver grip to reduce the swing weight and hit it ten yards further.

What setting allows the “follow the ball” view? I can’t find it on my dad’s GC Quad

Diamana pd has a 40x as well

Just as an experiment I went from my 70TX to a 50S and gained 30 yards on full sent and 15 at on course speed. Lighter is less effort and easier speed

What about the Fuji Platinum speeder. They got a 3x

How does this match up with the brava ?

What’s the CPM with a finished with the head on

Would love to see a shaft video more aimed at the entry level of upgrade shafts but for slow swing speeds. I’m only driving 200/220yds in Ping Alta. Don’t think my game warrants entry’s Velocore, nor do I even feel Venus red suits my swing. What’s a starting point for affordable upgrades to tinker with

@ian, you might remember my Platinum Speeder 4X....

Xcaliber have Avalon 5-TS and Phoenix 4, 5 and 6 in TS.

Is this the shaft in the recently announced TSR1 metals?

difference in swing weight?

wow! what a dude!

How come smash factor is never over 1,45?! He’s smashing it!!

If you would put a counter weight in the butt end of that shaft at a standard 45.5” length, would that change the properties of the shaft at all. Just thinking that you can put that extra weight your saving using that light of a shaft, and make the driver have more MOI?

I like the concept of your videos however please consider using testers that are like average golfer with a driver speed in regular flex. I can’t even relate to the video as I don’t come close to swinging this hard

when will you guys cover the G430 Max?

I'd like to see how this helps the slower swinger like Mikey.

Is this shaft available through CC in the US?

Delivered loft is the same as dynamic loft right? And what about 17 degrees is the magic number?

Hi Ian... Silly question: As a Fraser, are you related to the The Clan's current chief Simon Fraser, the 16th Lord Lovat, and 26th Chief of Clan Fraser?

What is so unique about the Mitsubishi Vanquish shaft? It is super expensive, at least $365. Fujikura Air Speeder 40 has a 48 gram stiff flex and the new NX 40 has a stiff flex that weighs 50 grams. Ventus Blue comes in a 50 gram stiff flex according to the fitter at the PGA Superstore here who showed me one. Fujikura had a Rocket Fuel 50 X flex shaft that weighed 53 grams that was a stock shaft on the RBZ Stage 2 driver. Mitsubishi Diamana has a 50 gram stiff version. There are numerous others. Would you recommend that someone interested in a very light weight stiff shaft consider models released a couple of years ago as opposed to the newest and most expensive ones?

Brian Harman plays a 5s!

Thanks for a great test. I have been experimenting with lighter head. I gain about 3mph when going from standard Stealth plus to all weights removed. No difference in accuracy. Usually shaft is what everybody tests (at least what I have found). Would be fantastic if you went all in and testet 46” light shaft, light grip (like T25) and light head. Looking forward to it😁

Do I hear an AUTOFLEX comparison coming?

love seeing the 3 of ya's

I would be curious to see the side by side comparison between this Vanquish shaft and the Fujikura Diamond Speeder 5s shaft. I would be curious to see how the torque differences between shafts affect the playability/feel of each shaft. Thanks for the content. As always the best in the business.

12:31 that is freaky

Driver bracket returns for this year??

I just love Mikey swing, so damn smooth and always hits bombs

20 yards!!? Dang!!

Use the longest driver you can that works with your game. I went to 46" some 20 years ago. Weight should be low but flex is more important as I've gone from S to R over these years. Your tests should include players of varying speeds to see the influence of these changes to know who gets the best bang for the buck (100mph, 90mph and 80mph).

Can you provide some swingweight and head weight details please Ian. Also the ball used in testing, cheers.

fujikura motore x 5-R2

Last comment: y’all haven’t done shorter, heavier, and stiffer. Try it, PLEASE. Physics would say that’s the route to go

🎤 Drop !😲😁👍

i use jumbo grips at 70+ grams , any pointers to a lighter grip in the oversize catergory to go with a lighter shaft

I am watching this on my computer 4X flex

first!

Hi..i am 7 feet tall..wondering if this may be a good idea to try..what would be an ideal headweight for driver head..im around 2 to 3 hndcp..thanks

You guys didn’t quite do it right. The ‘Otto Phlex’ is supposed to be two flexes softer, 46+” and 40-50g range.

I love the videos you make but I don't hit the ball as far as you guys do. I would like to see a mid to high handicap golfer try this not you guys because you hit the ball a mile. Thank You

Can you let Mikey use this shaft to achieve 300 yard. Please.

Um, are there ACTUAL amateurs who hit a fairway 70%-80% of the time?! REAL ones, not internet golfers….

Using different driver heads doesn't make sense to me