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​@savagegeese unfortunately he said UNDER 100K 😢

ND Miata. Nothing comes close.

Toyota GR supra MT yes i know its pretty much a bmw cosplaying as a jdm car but here me out the car is quite faithfull to the mk4 formula inline 6 turbo front engine rear wheel drive 6 speed manual and is very agile and agressive in its handaling its probally one of the best enthusiast product out today plus its 60k anything that tick as much box as this car are 100k and over maybe the Z but it far less superior and the mustang but that quite heavy car.

Jack definitely

Naah This Motor Is way more reliable

@@vindevhunta4905 you stupid? The b58 is one of the most reliable engines of all time and won awards for the design and capabilities.

​@@vindevhunta4905reliable? Maybe. Better? Not even close on any metric

prob not enough room

Not light.

Lightweight compared to a C8, but not compared to a 981 or a 718.

@@electric_boogaloo496 comparable to a cayman in weight, but a fair bit wider. Not a traditional lotus, that would be an alpine a110.

My daily weighs 3,117 lbs. And holds four adults with legs. Tons of storage.Has awesome seats and a world class manual. For a 1/3 of the price. So not impressed. ...and yet the Lotus is pure eye candy, and has the mid engine, rwd magic. So still very glad they built it. It is special. If I had room it would be keeping my Type R company.

my 1970 911S weighs in at just over 1,000 Kgs - this is not light

Literally went ape shit

He's celebrating that it was a good take, right?

I think he’s upset it wasn’t all positive.

Needs the Bubb Rubb treatment. D O U B L E W H I S T L E

That's only in the morning. You're supposed to be up cooking breakfast or something by then so, that's like an alarm clock. WOOOOOOO WOOOOOOOOOOO

Yeah I got it on my car

Thassit an thassall

Definitely not the comment I was expecting in 2024 😂

Got to drive one off turo for a day and I have to say everything I had read about it was true. So glad to not have my dream car spoiled when I finally got to drive it. Now, I just wait for the day I can own one

Steering is amazing. But unless you have the right roads near you then you get bored of the power( or lack there of) very quickly. That and the dealership experience is what kept me from keeping my deposit

How was your experience reliability wise? Always interested in the Evora

@@moneyshift8190you will have a lot of little issues that will either drive you crazy or you'll live with them comfortably. Some people think a cars reliability is based on the engine but until they own a lotus they will never appreciate how horrific British electronics are. If you don't have a dealer close to you then you better be really comfortable wrenching on it yourself. Also important mention Lotus will immediately terminate your warranty if they see mods. They also monitor the forums so keep that in Mind. I believe they own emiraforums. One of their reps knew who I was and knew all my posts, it was quite strange. I recommend driving one because they're fantastic but they're definitely not for everyone.

They really need to tune the hp to at least 430 like the previous models. It's the last ice car from lotus, they have to make it special.

The Lotus is beautiful, unique, and fun. But the C7 and C8 are cheaper to buy and maintain, and there is a dealership usually within 10 miles. The C7 is amazing for looks, interior, powertrain, cost to maintain. Enjoy looking at the Lotus but smile sitting in your C7.

Do you love a 6 cylinder? I couldn't justify spending that much for anything less than 8cyl. Just feels and sounds much more special.

@@bicboi1930 I hear you on that. My last three cars all had V8s. I think the Emira has a pretty sweet sounding six though. The driving experience also seems to warrant the cost. 6-cylinder aside, it's a rather special car.

I went from a C7GS to an Evora GT. It cost me a lot of money but I have no regrets. Well except for the regret of track day insurance costs.

Only a commie would give up a reliable American classic for some Eurotrash clickbait

Honestly, I think this comment is very outdated. The Evora and Elise have proven to be very, very reliable. It's too early to tell about the Emira, but it's far more likely to be in line with reliability of the Evora/Elise. The early cars in the 60's/70's definitely had reliability issues even when well cared for (too much lightness added :)), but the new cars are very good.

​@@michaelp5663this video literally has an Exige owner who complains about reliability. Only Lotus could make a Toyota unreliable.

@@michaelp5663 about the only reliable component of the lotus is the drivetrain. And even though, lotus somehow manages to mess that up... Coming from a low mileage elise owner! :)

@@michaelp5663 Evora, reliable?

@@truantraymy Toyota powered Lotus has been just as reliable as my IS350, Sequoia, and ISF.

That’s funny. I feel like the Alfa Giulia has enough quirkiness and masochism I could rationalize in a pipe dream. So cheap too.

@@Mark-eu6mc The Giulia is FAR more sensible, and a great choice methinks.

94J8D❤

Already did 40,000 on my Dark Horse. 500 hp. V8

I wouldn't care which is faster. Which is nimbler ?!?!? Which is more communicative?!!??!

Yes, the gearing is just killing those cars. They had some garbage excuse but it's bs, we all know Porsche could do better.

For some reason I just cannot get over the profile of the cayman. It just seems to have a feminine demeanor…and yes I would happily take a GT4 RS.

You know you can disable rev matching right? And not sure what you drove but the manual in my GTS 4.0 is an absolute treat to drive.

It's really not bs, it has to do with noise levels. They measure manual cars different from autos and it really penalizes them. ​Porsche is not the only long gear manual offender, but being one of the few remaining who makes manuals is oft singled out. @@bearclaw5115

@@judgedeath2614 He meant that the gear ratios are too tall and he’s right they are but at least in the 2.5 turbo flat-4 the torque band is so wide you can shift most anywhere in the rev range for fun. I also installed the GT4 short shifter in mine to take out the rubberiness and now it’s as perfect as it can get 👍

Prior? ! The LC500 is so new and I still think about buying one. Curious to know what you drive currently?

LC500 was pure bliss on longer drives... Get one if you don't need to go to the track or really tight mountain roads.

what does "had the blessing" mean?

@@SelimxBradley they’ve never had the opportunity/experience of owning one

@@VetteMaro86 they’ve sold the LC500 for over 6 years now, plenty of time for people to own/lease/sell.

It's a Mark 3 Evora, basically.

Nsx is not suppose to be the same old stuff. Literally in name to be different or experimental.

​​@@2010ngojoThan the World Rally eXpiriment has long forgotten that meaning 😂 (unless the "sport" CVT is their experiment)

Right. I began to seriously look at this car when I realized the 2nd Gen NSX started way above my price point and the first gens were also too pricey. Plus Lotus history of driver focus aided this decision.

@@qx4n9e1xp Yeah, Subaru lost it's innovation when Mitsubishi pulled the Evo out of the market. Maybe even before then.

As a Porsche owner this saddens me. I feel like Lotus have always been on the cusp of producing something to rival the Cayman/Boxster and yet even after all the investment it still isn't quite there. I really hope Lotus get it right before this model disappears entirely as we now know it's the last of its kind.

i own and Evora 400 - reliabble and easy car to fix, while Porsche problems can cost a fortune - especially things like the new engine

Also owned an Evora 400. I loved the car under 8/10ths (road use), but couldn't quite get along with it as expected on track. From my experience with multiple events, the front end (with the factory Bilstein dampers), wasn't as transparent and sure-footed under threshold braking and turn-in. If I had plenty of garage space, I would've kept the Evora as a street-only weekend car. Given limited garage space, my fun car(s) need to strike an optimal balance between street and track use. Bought a 981 Cayman S to replace the Lotus and it's much better on track but less fun, less of an occasion, on public roads. My M2C, on the other hand, is a blast on public roads but is heavier, worse on consumables, and requires more modification to hold up to extended sessions on track. Tradeoffs!

Hopefully Lotus sorts out more of the issues, buying the first year is risky. I heard they are shutting down 2025 production though?

I disagree , 99k and up is a lot of money for a tiny car with a V6, yes it looks good but I think it's overpriced.

@@Rocket9944 yep Z06 would probably beat this car at everything for just a little more. If you don't mind buying used there are a lot of options under 100k, including what I would pick up, a V10 Gallardo.

Looks like a $70K car to me.

@@ksegg_ffsYou probably haven’t priced new cars lately!

Looks like a $70-80k car, overpriced at $99k. Not even in the same category as McLaren, much less Ferrari. And for a little more than $200k you are in older Porsche GT3 territory which is a better car by a mile in all regards. Other than that, I agree with you.

A better ariel atom for sure

And a better throwback to their Lotus-Honda F1 days

Isn’t it a Toyota engine

@@dxcheongthe v6 is a toyota, the 4 cylinder is a mercedes engine.

100% agree. If they could have made the civic manual work with their own engine that would have been great too. Just think if it had a 4.0l na cosworth v6 with a dry sump with a honda gearbox. Scream to 8000+ rpm and around 400bhp. It would lower the centre of gravity loads as well.

Especially when you could get multiple ND's for the price of one of these. Get the same feeling every time I look at vintage British sports cars, and then realize I have an NB in the garage.

I had an evora GT and now I have a nd2 rf (needed to buy a house) and while the GT was a unique car I was always nervous something serious was going to break on it having the nearest lotus dealer literally hours away… meanwhile I drive the nd2 and have no worries just smiles knowing ultimately it’s “just” a Mazda… and I have one of those dealers worst case 15 minutes from my house.

@@viscountslappy5085 My BIL and sister have had multiple Miata’s while also owning Lotus, Jaguar, Aston, etc. so apparently it’s possible to own multiple Miatas and also own Lotus …

@@viscountslappy5085 And the craziest thing is that you could have multiple Miata's and each one setup with it's own unique drivetrain with how plentiful the aftermarket support is; and probably still stay under what the Emira costs. The Emira does look sublime though.

did you just butcher a third of your texts?

They will be able to go to some Volvo dealers

They should absolutely try to go through Volvo. There are some nice interior elements by Volvo in there too. :)

@@karacha Yes there are! Came here to see if anyone had noticed!

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@@Ian-oe9wp Beef 'N Cheddar?

Beef and white cheddar does not come off that leather.

@@savagegeese bars

@@savagegeese we need taco hat back!

In this EV era That supercharger sound it awesome..seem you are not a true car person…

981 S/gts for me, need to feel like a kid in a race car for a little longer

@@vindevhunta4905 Some people don't like the sound of turbos and superchargers (raises hand). I definitely prefer my engines naturally aspirated.

@@Contractor815 fair enough

Possibly the best looking car under 250k

I love the 4C too but reliability is even worse and the interior is even more of a joke than the Evora's was (I say that as the Evora is my dream car). I think the Cayman would probably be the better daily or "only" car, but the lotus is just so special. The Evora GT I drove from turo for a day put everything else I've ever driven to shame as far as driver involvement, and I daily an s2000.

Just got my 981 CS last year. Had an allocation for new GTS 4.0 but passed on it after acquiring my 981 while waiting for my allocation. Is the GTS 4.0 really that much better? I didn’t think so. The 981 sounds much better. The 4.0 makes more power but they are otherwise the same cars. My next upgrade will be a GT3.

The 4c is by far the most fun on the road, it’s a absolute riot but definitely not a first or second car maybe a 3rd car

981 has the worst feedback on modern sports car steering.

@racesuey the steering feel argument is so overblown. Every cars steering feels different as soon as you hop in. But once you adapt. I swear the only time you feel the difference with hydraulic is at ten tenths or if you're at a really high speed.

Tend to agree. If this engine is unreliable, it's the induction system, not the Toyota V6.

Yeah, it's a joke that it's pretty obvious it's essentially the same car but people are willing to roll out the Lotus line of 'all new' as you say, that's not an issue but don't peddle the bull...

Same. Unfortunately, I read somewhere that Lotus already confirmed they won't make one. Sad face.

What does being a Pisces matter? Or am I missing something? I’m a Pisces too 😊 I tried to buy one in 2021 but couldn’t get my hands on one at the time. I ended up getting something different.

@twinturboray C5 is ugly.

Because the Corvette needs (and by needs I mean absolutely requires) a trunk that will accommodate a golf club bag. They start with that and engineer out from there. Lawyers and plastic surgeons need golf accommodations on toys.

@twinturborayC6 looks better than the C5 imo

Golf clubs

@@cbotten106 I understand that, but a wide trunk doesn't explain the tacky exterior styling. I wish the Corvette borrowed more from the old CERV3.

Can't you just dial the understeer out with some after market parts? Anti-roll bar, or more camber up front?

I was wondering if I’d find you in the comments lol. hey doc! I’m surprised you were willing to forgive the under steer as such a rwd/steering fanatic. But I guess the feedback and ability to fix aftermarket makes it worth for you.

@@darrena4048 Just uprate the spring and/or shock rate in the REAR end? Sway bar only works mid-corner, whereas stiffer damping/wheel rate helps on initial turn-in too. Unfortunately most aftermarket springs and shocks also lower the car, it's hard to find ones that are uprated but keep the OE ride height. Edit -- Sorry I said front end at first, I got confused.

Is it a new car? That's unfortunate to hear bro. Hopefully it gets fixed soon.

@@yareyare74 brand new. Picked it up Saturday with 150 miles on it. I ordered it last April and waited just over one year.

It's not brand new with 150. I wouldn't accept that.

@@krzzzy19 I've read that 150 is normal.

You sure thats not a dealer or port issue?

Big or small. Thats the take away between the two.

My two favourites also. Can afford neither lol

@@martinm964 I see your little one. Good luck justifying a 100 grand toy for yourself!

Two best looking production cars imo in recent years. The hyundai N vision would also be on the list if they ever making it in decent numbers.

@@2010ngojo yes! Looks like we’re all thinking alike

Well. . . My 2010 Tesla Roadster, which I adore, and which was in fact assembled by Lotus (as a "glider" and then Tesla installed the power train), is showing its age, and I am watching all my options for its replacement. I'd love to see Lotus come through. It gives me optimism that they're going all-in, not trying to develop an EV as some half-baked side project.

100% having had a evora GT When I’m able to get a high(er) end sports car again it will be a Porsche of some form.

Legislation dictates they cannot, sadly.

EVs are 10+ years out from being the standard.. nobody wants them

@@TornadoOfSouls777 Yes, Lotus is jumping too quick into EV only. If anything they should go hybrid for a while.

clearly that isnt the case as Tesla has proven...they can live side by side in harmony. I have an Evora GT, Model X Plaid, Lucid AIR Gtp, Esprit FE, original Roadster in storage, a few vintage Saabs, and more (I collect) and they are all wonderful. I had the opportunity to drive the Eletre and the Emira when working in the UK, and tho the Emira is not the upgrade to the Evora I had hoped for...the Eletre R was quite thrilling in its own right. Performance evs can be just as exciting, and in some cases simply better. The Emira is a perfect subject for cars and coffee.. Sunday cruiser, but it wont blow your mind in any way, somewhat ephemeral. Cheers.

​@iannealcole That sounds like an awesome collection! People are too black and white... all cars have their place. Especially the Murano Cross Cabriolet.

Congrats Z4 is a great car

If we can get it

Oh goodie! I hope Nissan stiffs you. 🤣

@@savagegeeseyou are going to beat the piss out of the Versa! 😂 True Nissan ownership experience.

@@savagegeese i drove lexus rx350 and i let the auto trans do its thing at optimal rpm (2k-3k rpm 2/3 the pedal down accoridng to bfsc chart) and fuel level as much as possible (transmissions was super slow as savagese might rerember) but you should drive it anyway and mash the htorttle because it exceptioinally sounds good with a base heavy comforitng sound sort of like the usual old school v8 but mores smoothened (it was inline 4 version not v6, id liek to hear the v6 version) .with gliding in neutral after using auto transmission mode to speed up, according to its infotainment screen i got around 25 mpg insted of the usual 15 or 18 sort of number. i got similar in manual mode only and my driving isnt all that good because im new to driving effciently . also drove avalon hybrid limited also from around 2013 , was getting around 40 mpg... so with being lower weight areodynamic sedan, cvt, hybrid, and the auto trans is a super lousy trans... only 10 mpg better compred to maybe of i get 30 mpg in the lexus rx suv. in avalon, the hybrid cant totally go neutral , it just turns things off , which is still useful for turning off regenrative braking so the car can glide instead of ruining momentum by converting it to electrical energy then putting it back out , which is less effceint in lowering emissions, material usage etc long term , than using electric drive in small power application especially higher torque applicaitosn like rollin to 10 mile per hour before mashing pedal to optimal combustion. im not sure wether to apply the bfsc chart rule (pule n glide) in avalon hybrids sport mode , normal mode, or eco mode, sportier mode is just more fuel. Reply

i drove lexus rx350 and i let the auto trans do its thing at optimal rpm (2k-3k rpm 2/3 the pedal down accoridng to bfsc chart) and fuel level as much as possible (transmissions was super slow as savagese might rerember) but you should drive it anyway and mash the htorttle because it exceptioinally sounds good with a base heavy comforitng sound sort of like the usual old school v8 but mores smoothened (it was inline 4 version not v6, id liek to hear the v6 version) .with gliding in neutral after using auto transmission mode to speed up, according to its infotainment screen i got around 25 mpg insted of the usual 15 or 18 sort of number. i got similar in manual mode only and my driving isnt all that good because im new to driving effciently . also drove avalon hybrid limited also from around 2013 , was getting around 40 mpg... so with being lower weight areodynamic sedan, cvt, hybrid, and the auto trans is a super lousy trans... only 10 mpg better compred to maybe of i get 30 mpg in the lexus rx suv. in avalon, the hybrid cant totally go neutral , it just turns things off , which is still useful for turning off regenrative braking so the car can glide instead of ruining momentum by converting it to electrical energy then putting it back out , which is less effceint in lowering emissions, material usage etc long term , than using electric drive in small power application especially higher torque applicaitosn like rollin to 10 mile per hour before mashing pedal to optimal combustion. im not sure wether to apply the bfsc chart rule (pule n glide) in avalon hybrids sport mode , normal mode, or eco mode, sportier mode is just more fuel.

Now you need to buy it😂

It's God's way of telling you to get into a financially precarious position

BUY IT!!!!! I love spending other ppls money.

Do it

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