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Seeing this review it does make sense it is a Dystopian movie, making this comment during 19:04, Breeding season is more off putting than it sounds. A wonderful choice, now going to see your take on it in the video.
I think the most insane thing to me is that they didn’t just have artificial insemination be the typical method of having more kids. Why have a breeding season where you are required to have sex with someone you aren’t attracted to when artificial insemination is right there! If you wanted to, make it a historical thing to explain how we got here, but the idea of it being present in the modern day is insane.
@@Blueeyesthewarriorbecause ivf is an incredibly expensive and resource consuming process. Yea, it exists and you can do it for uncommon cases of people who need it, but to maintain an entire population with just ivf is literally unfeasable
Same, I can only shudder at the thought of this film attempting to find a way of building bisexuality into the already flimsy plot. (I am also bisexual)
As a lesbian I said out loud "grab a f***ing tool!" when she went to bruise her shoulder against the door and then he said it, and, yes, I laughed too .-.
@beanbag884 there were a fair amount I mean it was school in a major progressive urban city at the tail end of 2018 so it's not like homophobia was an acceptable thing, social media was all the rager so no one really cared
@@beanbag884 like mikey said, that you know of ;) seriously though, depending on where you live, it might not be safe for a lot of those kids to be out publicly
I remember seeing the short film when I was around fourteen. I wouldn't say I was homophobic but I definetely otherized gay people and watching it did make it click in my head how wrong that was. I would've been genuinely sad at the self deletion scene if it didn't look so cheaply made. I only remember it being her standing in a bathtub while blood fell in the water. Wasn't expecting much though since it was a short film, so I always thought it was pretty good. Edit: That verse about shellfish was Mosaic law which we're not under anymore and there were a lot of other banned foods we can eat now.
Yeah, Acts 10. And it doesn't just apply to food, it applies to all of the Mosaic laws regarding spiritual cleanliness. One of Paul's letters said that if people still insist on the practice, they can do it, but don't force others to do the same.
People otherize groups they aren't a part of, in general. There is not necessarily anything directly wrong with that, as long as you treat everyone fine.
@@ShunJ89The thing about the governments that run dystopias is that they don't exactly care how a trans person would do so, just that they do, or that said trans person would be allowed into the dystopia's elite simply for not being "hetero."
“What if the roles were reversed and this happened to you?” is *generally* not a good argument towards creating empathy in someone, because somehow who hates another person views their hatred as justified, whereas they would view their own persecution as not being so. Homophobes, racists, misogynists, etc. aren’t JUST people who hate others for what they would consider to be *no reason*. They think their hateful opinions are entirely based in fact and reality, even if they’re not. Saying “What if straight people got treated the same way as gay people?” towards a group of bigots wouldn’t make much of an impact, because 1. it would be relying on a presentation of a fantasy world (one in which straight people were persecuted for being straight), which is not anything they’d ever have to worry about and thus would be difficult for them to take seriously, 2. bigots tend to be dismissive of the experiences of the people they hate anyway, so it would be met with claims that the experiences in the story were “exaggerated”, and 3. they’d view it as a failed equivalence, because in their opinion, the people they mistreat DESERVE to be mistreated, but they themselves do not. “What if it happened to you?” works best in situations in which the target audience is largely ignorant of a particular persecution taking place, rather than complicit in it. It could be argued that perhaps that was the goal of these films, but you’d be hard-pressed to find a modern American teen who is somehow unaware of anti-gay discrimination, at least anywhere where schools and authorities would even want to screen a film like this. That’s the worst part about combating discrimination and bullying, really - roughly speaking, the parts of the world where this would be seen don’t need it as much as others, and the parts of the world that *would* need it would ban it outright. It’s extremely frustrating. So much important social commentary is preaching to the choir while everyone else refuses to listen.
Put it best here. If you really want to get -ists and -phobes to empathize, it requires doing the unthinkable which is actually speaking on a personal level and getting to the heart of their prejudice. Much of everything else is just an affirmation of their views.
@@lukebytes5366A lot of people don't have enough critical thinking skills to engage in a conversation like that. (After all, society doesn't seem to support independent thinking.) So the dialogue that would solve a lot of these problems will never happen on a mass or individual level.
@@hinachan70it doesn't really require critical thinking, changing emotions with logic will always be an uphill battle. It's not about winning an argument, it's about giving people the kind of humanity they believe doesn't exist.
I legit watched this when I was younger and thought that it was super sad, but now with the current climate I can't help but think,, "This looks like a Republican's idea of what LGBT rights is."
Before I discovered I was bi, I watched this as a kid and I was so sad by it but now I'm just like "What were these people on to think this was a smart idea to make this"
@@OtakuUnitedStudio Well the republican party as a platform is against gay people, even if not all republicans are anti-lgbt+. If one votes for that then they are at least by proxy enabling anti-gay legislation which we are seeing constantly today.
my opinion is that a lot of modern pro lgbt culture is hell bent on proving radical republicans right. in the 90s there was always conservative pastors and whatnot who were saying allowing gay marrige would be the end of decency in america and it seems a lot of gay people nowadays that are being strangely sexual and acting like a normal person is looked upon as being 'wrong' you can't just be a normal gay couple and live your life, you have to dress up in a gay parade half naked and wear rainbows. its like we've become so progressive we've somehow circled back to putting gay people in a stereotype again
You saying "What's the scariest thing in the world? If you said gay people, you'd be right." Whilst wearing a Chaos jacket and Berserk hate is just too funny
I was expecting the answer to “where do baby make” being “fuck you we’re not explaining that” so I was preparing for a joke about mpreg or something, and then I got clocked by “the breeding season”
@@KaliqueClawthorneThe percentage of bi people in the population still wouldn't be enough to keep society functioning. The real question is, "Why breeding season and not artificial impregnation?"
Both options would've brought war flashbacks to the omegaverse and a stark reminder why I am the "if I suffer, you have to suffer too" type with my friends
This film tried to do what _The Twilight Zone_ did numerous times: put the oppressors in the oppressed's role to demonstrate how persecution feels, ostensibly to trigger bigotry-breaking empathy. But in the decade since this film, we've seen how projection bias and conspiracy theories distort the ability to even recognize the idea. That said, I was always fascinated with the film for the worldbuilding: I wanted to see what other kinds of stories could be told within it.
@@darwinxavier3516Omg that’s true. I wanna see that subplot now. Though it would make sports a lot fairer. But they might as well have a “birthday season” as well
@@Emberson-9000 Population dynamics must work WAAAY different. It also feeds into the stereotype that all gay/lesbian people want to have kids, which isn't exactly always a positive portrayal.
To confirm your comment about how Homophobes would miss the point: I've seen the short being spread around by bigots claiming it's a "declaration of intent" and "the world gays want" to feign their own victimhood
They were chanting "We're not going shopping", the only one saying "We're coming for your children" was the guy behind the camera trying to make them look bad @@elLooto
@@BlueMageDaisen I just went and checked it out again. what guy behind the camera? Its a produced video, not a live recording. Lyrics: “We’ll convert your children, happens bit by bit, quietly and subtlety and you will barely notice it. You can keep them from disco, warn about San Francisco, make ’em wear pleated pants, we don’t care. We’ll convert your children… we’ll make them tolerant and fair. Just like you’re worried, they’ll change their group of friends, you won’t approve of where they go at night. And you’ll be disgusted when they start learning things online that you kept far from their sight. We’ll convert your children - Yes we will! Reaching one and all, there’s really no escaping it, cause even grandma likes RuPaul. The world’s getting kinder, Gen Z’s gayer than Grindr. We’re coming for them. We’re coming for your children. The gay agenda is coming home. The gay agenda is here.”
@@BlueMageDaisen Wow RU-vid really doesnt want me talking about this at all. Ive tried a half dozen times, and it keeps getting deleted. (I'm checking on a second browser, btw, on a second account)
I was thinking the same thing although mainly the M&Ms ad where Yellow and Red are on a rowboat which leads to them as well as the other rowers singing Rock the Boat.
This reminds me of how I feel about Christian movies. As a Christian, I generally think they have a positive message, but it’s always so poorly presented that I end up just cringing.
Christian propaganda kept me an atheist for decades. That and all the institutional hypocrisy. You just want to say "Oh no, honey...you're making it worse." But that's fundamental to the art of spiritual warfare: infiltration, aka "darkness masquerading as light" or "wolves in sheep's clothing."
The worst thing about this in my opinion is how it justifies the more subtle elements of dystopia and hate. Most homophobes aren't out there beating gay people with sticks every day, it's the smaller things, and people who don't even know that they're doing it. Someone who says "I'm not inviting [Gay Person] to the neighbourhood event because there's just *something* I don't like about them" can look at this as the face of homophobia, and feel vindicated that *they're* not a bigot, *they* would never tie someone to a carousel and beat them up. It's a shame, because if it had been done well, it could have been at least decently interesting. A film where a character reveals that they're into the opposite sex, and are just treated quietly differently. All it takes is a mum saying "oh sweetheart that's...great" in the right tone of voice, or maybe she was going to be one of the lead roles in the play and loses it for reasons never properly specified. I don't think the majority of churches have an outright message of "gay people will burn in hell", but just having a slight pause after the priestess says something which implies that being gay is wrong, during which a few people glance at the main character like "we all know this is about you, but we can't say it". That feeling of discomfort when it's hard to outright accuse any particular person of a hate crime or mistreating the character is far more poignant than just a message of "don't punch gay people in the face, that's wrong", and would help a lot more people understand the more less obvious ways that they are making life difficult for other people based on sexuality.
That's exactly what I was thinking. It feels way too on the nose and over the top. I'm not LGBT myself, so I can't say from experience what might be more realistic, but even I know that the Westboro Baptist types are not (and probably never have been) the #1 most prominent exemplars of homophobia. There's those scenes in Louie Theroux's film about them, where for example a guy essentially says "y'know I disagree with the lifestyle, but..." Obviously the hatred of troops did much to further lessen their appeal even amongst "casual" (?) conservative-Christian American homophobes, but so did the super-obvious hatred as opposed to "hate the sin not the sinner" or whatever
That reminds me of someone explaining why she ended up swearing off omegaverse entirely after she realized how screwed up it was, largely because she brought up a "fact" about male wolves that she knew wasn't true. And also how utterly insane it sounded once it came out of her mouth.
Lmao I was thinking of omegaverse too. I like reading it because it's silly but I've only ever found one that had a straight person in it (and a lot of them barely even have women as background characters?) so I just thought you could make a comedy combining this movie with omegaverse.
I'm bi with a male partner and even I am cringing as each detail about the film comes out. I understand they wanted to get a good message across but there are so many better ways than this. Why don't they just show a normal gay couple in a healthy supportive relationship to show people it's perfectly normal? I'm sure it would be a lot easier to write and less painful to watch.
Because this is a problem we face today, people don't look at the idea of a "happy couple" or "happy family" and think is a good message, they let their own extremist ideas get the better of them, this is why everything about this today is so confusing for some people, there are extremists inside the Lgbt comunity and outside of it, this is an example of someones extremism getting the better of them. It would have been soooo much better to just see a normal gay couple being a good and healthy family but no "Lets just make the whole world heterophobic and see how they like it".
@@TheBrKsbielunfortunately homophobes don’t really have empathy like normal people. Most of them can only understand that discrimination is bad if they experience it themselves.
@@hemipenesyeah you should’ve put a little bit more thought into that statement before you made it because it’s a helluva lot more complicated than that.
@@TheBrKsbiel while i agree on the healthy gay couple thing. There are still "good written" "happy" familys out there. One of my most hated tropes cause family is still are a overromantizised term and if you DARE to say anything against this social narrative you get shitted on. (I know that i dared to do that) What we need more are well written Awful familys. Not over exaggerated like most are depicted. Cause NO. Fsmily is in and on itself only a word. And while it of course is not ALWAYS bad, it is neither always good.
That's literally the first thing a 12yo would think when a progressive enough teacher tells him/her "bullying homosexual people is bad, how would you feel if the roles were reversed". Except they're not 12yo...
When I think about movies like this, I mostly imagine the people watching and thinking "this is genuinely what is going to happen if we let gay people marry" Because I know they exist
thats how everyone took it when they showed it to us in my school like the homophobia went up to 99% pressure release with that shit lol and good because tht is what they want to do to us theyd opress the fuck out of us if they could lol and they currently are trying to and succeeding rn
In my opinion, that can't necessarily be unless queer ideology is that irrational which I do not believe to be the case and I believe queer ideology is a terrible philosophy(alongside post-genderism, antinatalism, Nazism, ultranationalism, etc) In my eyes, they are probably less dangerous than countries leading a rise in cohabitation over marriage and treating marriage like a cultural fossil when it is actually a necessity for most people.
@@paolodybalastoe Do you even know what you're saying? "Queer" people have the right to be good human beings. Not degenerates. That's like saying pedophiles and zoophiles have the right to be child and animal abusers. Sorry if this is shocking but homosexual acts are pretty evil. That, however, doesn't immediately mean that I want people to bully children who may as well simply feel like they like these things. That is sick! Being against something doesn't immediately mean being compliant with extrajudicial and excessive acts of violence. That is Twitter level baloney.
No but this is literally a joke in our house. “Coming out as straight to your liberal parents.” Also when she said, “maybe there’s a hetero heaven.” I lost it 😂😂
LMAO no one's erasing supposed ace people, they are few and far between and should probably go to therapy for their trauma from being bad touched as a child.
Real, the amount of disrespect ace folk get even from other queers is ridiculous. Even the internal erasure by trying to rewrite the definition of sexual attraction so people who still have sex can call themselves 'ace' keeps getting bandied about. Yet another reason for me to be jaded against the community
If I had a nickel for everytime one of these movies would show the protagonist struggling to open the bottle I'd have two which is weird....and they both have the same actor from cyberbully whatever her name was
I wonder if it's like Brad Pitt eating or Tom Cruise running. "There has to be a scene where someone struggles to get a pill bottle cap off, or I'm not in."
You didn't do the joke right Its "If I had a nickel for every time one of these movies would show the protagonist struggling to open the bottle, I'd have two but its weird it happened twice" If you're going to quote a wise man (Doofenshmirtz), you have to do it right /j
We were shown this at my school in Scotland. As a gay kid it was odd to say the least. Then again we were shown literally shown images of *injuries* shall we say. But some of the bullying does reflect what I faced even what the teacher said by blaming her.
I bursted laughing with "the devianart Sonic OC reject in the background for no reason", immidietly remembered Donnie Darko and laughed till i started crying. Thank you!
I actually got shown that video in 6th grade. I get the point they wanted to make but the extremely graphic suicide really shouldn't be shown to 11 year olds. We didn't get any warning and it really freaked out a lot of the kids. That teacher got fired the year after though
I remember coming across the video and watching it when I was a little younger and was honestly expecting an ending where the girl would have a good ending and defeat her bullies.. but when I saw the suicide scene I was literally horrified and burst into tears when it finished and regretted watching it..
One of my high school Health teachers showed us the short film (minus the suicide scene, since she skipped to the ending message about it being based on true stories), and everyone afterward was talking less about the message and more how nonsensical the setting is.
The incredible logic of homosexuality being the norm but single-sex frats and sororities being a thing is incredible because it gives you moments like that seven minutes in heaven nonsense where it’s like “go on, make out with your brother” 💀
The intent behind the film and short seems to be well intentioned, and to get us to examine how we treat homosexuals, by having the whole concept being flipped. But the possibility of Bisexuality or Pansexuality isn't addressed at all, or even being Ace or Demi.
Conversely, it is an attempt to look at the problem from a Neitzchian perspective, asking a gay audience if they were strong enough to not stare into the abyss lest it stare bavk, and they become He Who Fights Monsters. Unfortunately, I can see a lot of people in the comments section easily becoming said monster because they either missed the point, or simply don't care how much damage they have to do to get their perceived revenge, only that they DO get said revenge.
also what about asexuality? Like if you just went "everyone is kinda eww tbh" in that universe, how would people respond? Considering they are primarily "bigots" about hetero people, would asexual people be treated the same as our current society treats them (mostly condescendingly saying "you just haven't met the right one yet") or would there be more understanding? Would they still have to participate in breeding season, even if they were on the s*x repulsed side of the spectrum? What happens if you don't participate in breeding season at all as well? Like you are so heterophobic, you just can't get the mood going to produce a child with someone? so many questions, no answers.
I have never heard about this movie before this, and I was honestly expecting going into this that it was anti-LGBTQ and was playing it off as being 'the future liberals want' and victim-playing heterosexuality like you said at the start. What I think, considering I'm Bisexual(, and, albeit, tend to be a little too forgiving of an individual,) myself?: Good intentions by premise and purpose, but badly executed and more overdramatic than it needs to be.
I also assumed this was going to be some kind of "the straights are the REAL victims" dystopian thing, not a well-meaning pro-lgbt (or I guess just pro-lg) movie that fumbled the execution.
I interpet this as an attempt to warn gays into not becoming He Who Fights Monsters. Unfortunately, from what i've seen on Webtoon, Tumblr, Bluesky, and Twitter, they almost WANT to become said monster. They EMBRACE the abyss. That's why they stare bavk at it for as long as they can, because in their minds, it is the only thing that can give them the power to destroy their enemies.
I think my biggest issue with this is that by saying “what if gay was straight”, they implied message is “what if being gay was normal.” By making it seem like some kind of shocking dystopia, it implies that being straight is the default in our real world. Something, something, by treating homosexuality as abnormal you’re perpetuating the idea that it’ll always be “weird” by default
Heterosexual behavior makes sense as a social norm, as homosexual behaviors - those which resemble reproductive processes, but without actually contributing to sexual reproduction - are punished by evolutionary processes, given that the qualities of those behaviors would make reproduction less likely. It makes sense that heterosexual behavior - or social attraction to members of the opposite sex - would increase the likelihood of reproduction, and by extension continuation of an individual's lineage. Thus, to the extent that homosexual behavior is determined by genetics, it is expected to be made scarce due to evolutionary processes. In modern times, this could be a bit less relevant to humans as a species due to our more complicated social structures, but an impact must have been had over however many generations it must have taken for civilization to develop. It's interesting, therefore, to think about a predominantly homosexual (at least from a human perspective) world, since it would seem biologically counterintuitive, and since it would make sense to produce a very different society.
@@BinaryBolias it could be interesting yeah, but they didn’t do nearly as much with it as they should have. Plus, that wasn’t the point. It wasn’t an exploration of “what if,” it was meant to have an anti-bullying message. Speculative fiction is fun to play with, especially since this world could theoretically have very good artificial fertilization technology, or there’s the much weirder “breeding season” thing that just sounds like smth from an omega verse fanfic. Also the idea that homosexuality is “punished” by evolution is inherently flawed due to the existence of bisexuals, but that’s not smth I wanna argue about right now. Gay people will always exist, since they came from straight people. There isn’t a “gay gene” that will slowly be eradicated, as it clearly hasn’t happened yet
@@sneakysnek572 On the latter matter of evolution absolution, I express that homosexual behaviors are only punished by evolutionary processes to the same extent that they are determined by genetics. Based on my argument. the existence of people who express homosexual behavior seems to merely indicate that the behavior must not be solely defined by genetics, rather than render my logic to be inherently flawed. Essentially, any behavior which is a detriment to reproduction is "punished" by evolutionary processes, as an individual exhibiting such a behavior is definitionally less likely to reproduce. I assert that homosexual behavior is detrimental to the likelihood of sexually reproducing, applying the aforementioned logic to it. I have not supposed that homosexual behavior can be completely attributed to genetics. Thus, I consider homosexual behavior to be punished by evolutionary processes, but I do not consider such behavior to be solely determined by those processes. To anthropomorphize: Evolution is (probably, or usually) homophobic, but it can't necessarily do anything about it.
This reminds me of the film Babakiuaria in concept. There, it was "What if white people were the natives of Australia and modern aboriginals showed up and colonised." Only there, it was clever. It was intelligently commenting on the political and social state of Australia (and relevant to a lot of other countries). It was also done with humour, a mockumentary making an excellent and well done message. This is just... well, bad. It's trite and poorly delivered.
How did they account for the fact that 'white people' were the industrious builders who found unbuilt locations and, you know, built there? Presumably the swapped roles would lead to the new-colonisers finding a few towns and cities, right?
great review. this film is a great example of if a film has a good message does not make it great if it has a bad story and is poorly done. hell, if you want to see discrimination reverse of the way it's usually seen just look at the radical/extremist sides to things like Afrocentrism.
My highschool showed us the original version (with the unsubbing from life scene in it still) with absolutely no warning the same year that I tried the same thing and got put into the loony bin. I literally threw up on my teacher. Great job everyone.
1. I'm really sorry that happened to you. 2. I'm so glad you survived. I hope you're a lot better now. If you aren't, please hang in there, I hope it does get better. 3. Heck yeah, way to go spewing on the teacher!
I hate it when teachers don't at least warn the class. It takes like five seconds for them to do, there's no need to blindside the students especially when they have no idea what those students could be going through :(
@@deen7530 yeah. i had a health teacher warn us that a book we were gonna read for a project has a SA scene in it and she said "if you arent comfortable with it please talk to me and you can stay in the office or library" and despite how many times i said i wasnt comfortable, she would fight really hard for me to be in there for that... like lady what?? my counselor had to get involved..
@@TheIrreverentUncleAlIt exists, the same way the fear of being watched by a duck exists. Finding someone who is genuinenly bigoted against heteros like heteros are bigoted against gays is very unlikely, just like finding a person who is genuinenly afraid of being watched by a duck.
I have no way of proving it, nor do i know for sure how it works, but this movie mysteriously getting 3.6 million dollars says money laundering to me. Someone had a lot of coke money and needed a way to wash it.
i remember coming across this as a kid (very closeted lesbian)and seeing the attempted scene (when it was still up i saw it all in like 4k) and it scarred me like i was so horrified.
I remember stumbling upon the short film in 2013..... as an lgbtq+ person myself, I think the idea of "what if GAY was STRAIGHT" inherently presupposes that straight is still "the norm," so it's kind of like... the question should instead be, "what if being gay was normalized or preferred culturally." I understand the appeal of being like "what if this were you" but I think it falls kind of flat when there's nothing else besides flipping "expected" roles. Also, are bi people as stigmatized in their world as in ours? Is the science far more advanced to create "test tube babies"? Just like, I get it, but it's not exactly an easy thing to show 1:1, and anyone who needs to see a simple 1:1 is probably not very talented in the brain cells department. Bullying is bad no matter what. edit: thank you for the neil breen, god bless
@@genericname2747homophobes don’t really have empathy like normal people do so a lot of them have to experience discrimination before they realize that discrimination is a bad thing
@@hemipenes Yeah but that's also my problem. I doubt homophobes would watch this and decide discrimination is wrong. They'd just think this is why gay people can't run the world.
@@WorshipperOfKhone Honestly, same. At first, I thought it was a stupid thought, but there are some people who think like that and I could see a homophobe watching this movie and getting the wrong idea.
"love is all you need" I hate that kind of empty shallow sentimentalism. People who believe in that nonsense don't understand that others have every right to choose who they like and want to be friends with and that when someone says "well I don't like you" there's no "discussion" to be had on the "issue".
I’ve seen the first short before and am reminded of another short film that also dived into the “what if the minority was normalized” called Jeremy the Dud where disabled people were treated like regular people and non disabled people were infantilized and given demeaning jobs. I’m disabled myself and I thought it was okay and I loved seeing a lot of disabled actors in it.
As someone who is queer, I've seen other LGBTQ+ people call straight people "breeders". I know that straight people aren't oppressed for being straight, but that term is gross. Especially if referring to anyone who is afab. Boiling someone down to being a "baby maker" is gross.
@@SioxerNikita yeah, and because i can, i can tell this comment is saying that calling people breeders is bad. you agree with them, yet are acting as if you dont. i ask again: can you read?
i remember in another movie review by a diffrent youtuber who i no longer watch, they made a point on how complex and interconnected things are and how you can't just make an AU and have all the things in it be the same. it might seem simple of just saying "modern society with fantasy creatures" or "an all gay society" but then you have to really think about how a society like that would work because just looking at why things happen in our world is a complex thing. in this world of same sex attraction, what would even be the reason to interact with someone of the opposite sex? are things even more gendered? are trans still oppresed? are there stright pride parads like all the whiney people in outr world want? in a world fully gay, would there still be a race issue that couple deals with. what about other regions, do there mythology also confirm the same sex mantra in the films? you can't just say "i will make homosexuality the norm" and try to just make it our world? its lazy writing and downright insulting for writers who acturaly try and make an effort to make genuine effort to try and make an AU world.
This films world building also brings up questions like why do Christians in this universe hate straight people? what happens during the "breeding season" do they force people to have sex to make babies? is it an orgy thing that happens? And to follow up that question Why are straight people so hated in this universe when people have to have straight sex to make children to actually grow their population during these "breeding season" Like when you think about the film world building it just makes no sense on anything (if I miss anything let me know)
Oh god. I thought that this stupid thing I had seen on youtube when I was in my early years of high school was just something from my imagination. You’re telling me it actually was real?!!
I actually was in a class where we watched the original short to prompt an ethics discussion. It didn't go as badly as you might expect (as far as I remember), but my main takeway was the point you brought up about the weird logistics of this world.
@@ComradeMaryFromMars I was just thinking more like "Ok, it's been 6 months after purge, sign up for breeding season so we can keep the population going!"
Never understood the concept of the purge. How can you even have a working society where people can't function properly without behaving like animals once a year?
I'm gonna go against the grain of this comment section, as a queer kid watching this in the early 2010s when homophobia was casual and rampant, this short film felt needed. it was extreme in its depiction but it NEEDED to be in order to coerce a feeling of sympathy from straight audiences who physically couldn't put themselves in the shoes of their gay peers. People look at it now and find it stupid that a film was made that puts heterosexuals in the position of the opressed, but if that's what it took to get people to self reflect, that's what it took.
Honestly they should’ve leaned into the absurdity a lot more. You can still make a wacky movie and have a strong message, you don’t have to make it all doom and gloom for the sake of the message. Like what’s the point of it being a feature length movie at that point.
@@elLooto It may be fictional but good dystopian fiction still has to make sense. Nothing about this make sense which is why I think it would've been better as a comedy (an intentional one anyway)
"Men and women living together. It's a sin, it makes me sick just thinking about it!" Zoom in on the girl's little BROTHER sitting there like he's not (presumably) a cis kid who might stay with them until adulthood/college
in retrospect the movies not super good, but i remember watching the short in 2011 and tearing up. grew up in a homophobic family and the short was one of the first times i actually started questioning what i was taught.
"mo" is an actual slur that was used for a very long time, so "ro" makes sense. I think it's a good way to show how stupid these slurs are. And same with Breeder. It's weird, but I've met gay people irl who use Breeder as a "slur". I had to walk away from a group at gay pride they were anti-straight, and would say how because LGBTQ gets attacked, they have a right to attack any and every person. I'm a man married to another man btw.
This does remind me of the anime Vandread: It's the future with space travel & cloning technology, thus people no longer has to tolerate each other differences. They form like-minded community & go colonise their own planet. The 2 most prominent planets are the protag's homeworld for only men & the heroine's homeworld for only women so yeah same sex relationship is the only relationship & anything else is heresy
I like how that anime executed the premise in a surprisingly mature way, like no gender better or weaker than the other both were shown with its ups and down, it didn't even went the cheap harem route either which is again something that would be never done today ironically
I actually assumed this was going to be about a movie made by homophobes trying to make it out that straight people were being oppressed like one of those christian movies. Speaks to how goofy the ‘hetero’ on the forehead looks.
"Deleting their life accounts" the hoops you have to jump through on RU-vid now-a-days to have your video stay up is just insane. And it's the same with comments, the amount of times I've seen my comment disappear in front of my eyes for no good reason is stupid.
I like your idea that everyone should work in a customer service role to avoid being Karens. I was a Saturday checkout assistant at a supermarket when I was a teen at school. It showed me how to treat similar people when I’m shopping
liberals trying to not be authoritarians and create dystopias challenge: impossible like lol imagine getting lined up and shot because the government found out you were day trading before you went to work as a wagie like god your an idiot
they coud have used "hetty" as the slur for hetero people. like, i don't know if they already used it as slang for straight people at the time, but it would work.
So…A Flim that’s Shows A Discrimination-Phobia in a Reverse Way?…. This Is Interesting….I think The Message Is Good, But the Medium..It is Very Bad like Ben & Arthur, Both Good Messages But Bad Medium…Like Two Peas in a Pot.
Some suggestions. They rage quit the game of life, They unalive themselves, They CRT+ALT+Delete, They Game over themselves, They cancelled their subscription to life, They got express shipping to heaven.
I GET that they were trying to hammer home the point that it’s terrible that gay people are persecuted merely for being gay by showing how INSANE the inverse would be, but it seems like they REALLY didn’t have the writing talent and nuance to pull it off.
Huh? So they have a 'breeding season'. What? Idk. I feel weird about this movie as a bisexual woman. They forgot about other sexualities like ace or aromantic. How do poly relationships work? Exactly how I agree with you.
I thought the short was pretty well done. I think it's the kind of thing that hit quite hard as it's a lived experience for lots of people. It IS a downer, because that's exactly how it feels to live with. If you'venever lived it, it's very hard to explain what that's like. I hadn't realised it had been expanded into a longer work.
Well that sounds a bit like something I was shown in high school minus the dystopia part Correction: it’s possible I did see it😮 probably in 2014-ish cuz I was 15 when I was told about homosexuality 🤷♀️
