Lumix S5iix vs Lumix GH6 Which is BEST? 

absolutely love it

Not enoug money, but great

I love what it is, and I love lumix for making it, even if it's not for me

I'm delighted by its availability. Now getting the original S1 and S5 for 900 USD and lower. And THAT is the truly sweet sweet deal... Compared to the S5II X, my S1 ('upgraded' from GH5 to S1 a couple of years back) offers a CFExpress Type B internally, and the same external RAW options. Probably going to get a used S5 (or even a GH6), and wait for a couple of years before taking the plunge for the S5 II X. It's the best Lumix camera out there, but I'll wait till they bring in either internal RAW or 4K 120 FPS without crop (also a CFExpress Type B slot for recording most of the modes internally)

Great review and perspective!!

Thanks so much Gordon. Looking forward to your video!

Please do a cross-over episode!🦘

Thank youuu Caleb! 📸📸📸📸

Aah thanks so much! ☺️🙏

I totally agree!

Thank you! ☺️

I want to be buried with my gh5 😂 it’s my all time fave!

I bought a couple GH6’s to pair with my S5’s and I absolutely love them. They’re my main cameras for weddings now with the S5’s relegated to tripod duty. The GH6 is next-level compared to the S5 and S5II, and with all the rebates happening they are way cheaper!

@@apcreativemedia Wow. Good to know. I rented one to check it out.

I was quite a reluctant adopter of the CFExpress card at first but ya know what I love it now! If it means I can bypass having to use an SSD I’m really happy!

@@MicroFourNerds especially that the price has come down a lot. That Anglebird 512gb SE card is awesome.

The S1ii may have CFexpress again since it can cope with the heat better; whereas these G9-style bodies rely more upon externalisation to the ssd.

Aaah if they bring out pdaf to the gh line I’ll be so happy!!!

Thanks pav!!!! ☺️ you are totally right - I’m just greedy and want to make the most of the full frame output even if it’s only on a few modes!

Don't forget that the S1R of old can film in full frame 4k60 (technically 1.09x for all video)!

It was so extra and I absolutely loved it 😂

If you go with S5 II (or II X) + 20-60, you can get a Sigma MC-21 adapter and bring in Canon EF lenses, available at a less massive cost, perhaps

Ja the lense cost.. but i noticed the lenses that make m43 really good are very expensive too. The olympus pro lenses are not cheap and the leica 10-25 , 25-50 1.7 are 2000 each. Even the leica 100-400 is more expensive than some full frame lenses within this range. There are many cheap m43 lenses but in my opinion they are not worth buing if you want the best quality.

@@castielvargastv7931 On point, & on top of it, by comparison, the FF equivalents (or close enough), such as the Sigma 24*70 & 28*70 F/2.8 (Art & Comtemporary) lenses will gather + light proportionnally, compatible with the S5 line (L mOUnt aLLiiiiiiaaaanCe !), with better optical quality, at lower cost, while not necessarily being heavier (the Contemporary being only 470g for instance). I think the FF parc lacks some cheap options such as pancake lenses equivalents for expl, but some of the existing products are quite great in perf & affordable, while, as said, the quali options in the 4/3 ecosystem actually get costly real fast (not + than FF, but disproportionate compared to the usual $$ gap between these ecosystems). What striked me on that was the comparison Gerald Undone made between & of these Leica F/1.7 zooms, & a SpeedBoosted APSC Sigma, which provided better perfs in some aspects. That gave me the hint the best deals in 4/3's perspective, could be SpeedBoosting some awesome lenses of other sensor scales, that could be cheaper & better than 4/3 glass. But it requires even + research, on actual compatibility/reliability, AF perf, vignetting, used market opportunities (some much easier & cheaper found than others...), etc.

I’m not sure! Hopefully not too much. I’d imagine around $200 if I were a betting woman.

@@MicroFourNerds which puts it right at the same price as the X. IMHO everyone should go for the X unless they are certain they won't want RAW Output in the future. Plus, I have a sneaky feeling they may update the X earlier, or with better features in the future.

To be honest, I don't use the SSD myself. I would much rather attach a USB power-pack to the camera, via the USB port, and not have to worry about batteries dying on me if I am out all day. I've got two SSD's for my Ninja, so I don't even have to worry about how much stuff I capture on the day either. I have 1Tb and 0.5Tb cards for the Ninja. I shudder to think how much it would cost in SD cards to make up 1.5Tb of storage.

@@frankinblackpool Recording on the Ninja is indeed also what I often do. Mostly as backup though, so I still have to spend the money on SDs and CFEXPRESS 😅

Why not use a dummy battery?

@@anotherintrospekt6596 That’s an option, but you’ll lose power redundancy. For me, that’s a concern when I’m hand holding the camera. On a tripod it’s absolutely fine though.

@@RedFrameTech makes sense. Black magic has a better implementation on their pocket cinema cameras.

I was a bit behind the others 😂 better late than never hahah! Thanks so much for watching

If you shot on an s5ii and a gh6 with the same white balance settings and exposure, they would be very similar and very easy to grade the same.

@@MicroFourNerds oks, thanks a lot for that!

True

Thanks for your comment! I appreciate you taking the time. I’m definitely not leaving mft and definitely not moving on from small cameras 😊 if they ever bring out a mft camera with pdaf (come onnnn lumix!!) that would be my choice to film myself. I think there are two reasons why I adore mft. Like you say, it’s the small and capable side 90% of the time. The other 10% is just how astounding these cameras are for high end video work. I love that they can do both - it’s so cool! I appreciate that that side of mft isn’t for everyone, but it’s definitely worth talking about as it’s a huge benefit of the system over all 😊 (Tho I totally agree the gh6 is chonky! Hopefully if and when there’s an update it can be smaller 🙏)

@@MicroFourNerds thanks…maybe OM will send you some of their products to test too!

@@gordon3988 I think for video lumix will always have the edge, but I’m loving testing more Olympus cameras in the Tiny Camera series 😊 got the Pen F for two weeks at the moment!

They’re so cool!! I love the concept so much.

I love that channel 😊

Thats hat the s1h version 2 will be for. You wont get the same thing for 2000 in a dull frame camera

@@castielvargastv7931 it’s just too big

@@erbartlett i dont understand the obsession with small cameras. I have a gh5 and i use it with the battery grip only. It feels much better in the hand if it is more heavy and handheld shots are much more stable. I once had a s1 in my hands and it felt perfect. I would use the s1 with the battery grip also. To me bigger is better. Tried sony a 7 , its small but i dont even have enogh room for my fingers between lense and fingera because the lense is so close my fingers rub on it. I cant work if the camera has so bad ergonomics

@@castielvargastv7931 it all has to fit I a single bag I take with me kitesurfing…moving to full frame increases the lense size so much already I can’t also move up in body size too

@@erbartlett ja thats what a go pro is for.

Something had better come this year!! It’s been such a long wait! 🤞🤞🤞🤞

How does that work out in the end

You just get a 4:3 APSC crop. It records a boxy 4:3 image, it plays back in 4:3, the stabilisation works as normal unless you switch anamorphic stabilisation on. On the old S5 it's about as close as you can get to open gate. I think a lot of people overlooked it because it's called anamorphic 4:3. It's just 4:3.

@@maxresdefault8330 Im one of those that overlooked that as being an option. Great info thank you!

I don’t think so. I think it was always the intention for those modes to have contrast based. I don’t mind personally the only one I use is the 120p HD

I tend to keep it on in every setting I can (which is basically anything except the 4k 120p) it really does a good job, but I don’t think it can compete with proper dual native iso on the s series of cameras

Thanks!!!

I mean. This is the way!! 😂🙌

@@MicroFourNerds food for thought though, if the crop is messing with workflow, why not just put the camera in APSC? that way the crop is always there and you still have a bigger sensor size than the gh6… AND you still hand dual native ISO

the noise was nasty. I didnt expect that.

Yes that’s an option - I could just make the camera 100% apsc mode then it would change. I just think it’s a waste losing the full potential of the sensor, even if I can only use it for some shots 😊

@@MicroFourNerds Yep, I do see your point there. Great video as usual btw, thanks for all your hard work putting it together.

R8 trades to the no-crop for no IBIS, and lenses that you have have to remortgage your house to afford. But that option for the S5 II/X would be a cool one, and maybe one that they'll unlock with firmware down the line (preferably before an S1H2 comes along).

The focus is very good on GH6

I wouldn't use adapted lenses on a raft on account of the lack of weather-sealing 😸

I’d drop them all for a pdaf gh6! 🤞🤞🤞🤞

In the talking head bit? That’s probably my colour grading - I was in a very shady green area and definitely over did it. Basically, if the colours look good, that’s Lumix’s fault. If they look bad, it’s my user error 😂

@@MicroFourNerds I mean in general, everyone elses too. I am told It's either green (Sony) or magenta (Lumix).

Yeah it’s a bit wobbly with the 18mm for sure! I think I could definitely have walked more smoothly but I’d rather it accurately represent the footage

@@MicroFourNerds True, I have the S5ii and love it. So im not a hater of it. Luckily I usually use the Sigma 105mm F1.4 beast, so the stablization is absolutely glorious for that purpose.

I’m not sure you know. I’ve read on forums that it was contrast based on HD but I haven’t done any in depth tests personally.

The s5ii (and X) is definitely better for focus. There’s some in depth tests in my comparison video here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mol5xTgoAwo.html

@@MicroFourNerds Thank you!! Love your vids! Just put in my order for S5iix

The cable clamp will always be in the way of the screen from working properly unfortunately!

@@MicroFourNerds ah yes, that's unfortunate. But not so bad if you use an external monitor 🤷‍♀

I’ve never experienced it at all. And I’ve used my gh6 a lot in so many different lighting situations.

Micro four nerds - I’d use it as my talking head camera, not to talk about in the videos. I have been using the s5ii since December actually for the same reason. Pdaf is just so much easier to make sure you’re in focus!

@@MicroFourNerds Oooh, I misunderstood you then I guess. Sorry about that. I suppose the one thing that would solve this conundrum is a GH6 with PDAF then, eh?

@@AoyagiAichou 🙏🙏🙏🙏 that will be my main camera in a heartbeat if and when we get one!

The lumix GX800 ☺️ that review is coming up next week I think!

@@MicroFourNerds awaiting)

One more thing to charge, bring, more cables. And much larger files with prores. I just prefer a more minimal setup personally! But I can totally see the benefits

@@MicroFourNerds well, you mentioned adding an external monitor while using ssd, in that case external monitor is a much more efficient solution. For really minimal set up just camera is better, but than using your phone is even better if you go down that rabbit hole 😁