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Machi Koro: Bright Lights Big City Review - with Tom Vasel 

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Tom Vasel takes a look at the bright lights and big city in the latest offering of Machi Koro!
00:00 - Introduction
01:15 - Game overview
05:20 - Final thoughts
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@Monkeyb00y
@Monkeyb00y 8 лет назад
So I could take my original that I got recently, separate them into 6 or less, 7+ and special buildings, then do a 5 5 2 set up but add if you roll that you don't get a matching number, you get a coin any way. Sounds like a plan to me.
@Sarculare
@Sarculare 7 лет назад
Some misinformation in the comments about what changes in the new version. The new game does a good job at balancing the (previously broken) 1 die strategy, fixes the too much randomness issue with the expansions, and nerfs the tuna boat. Forces the 5-5-2 layout. Updates the radio tower (reroll dice) with the moon tower (roll 3 keep 2), making this useless for the 1 die strat Changes the convenience store (3 coins) to the general store (2 coins if 2 landmarks) Adds the member's only club (-All coins if >3 landmarks) I own all versions and expansions of this game and will not play another version due to the game imbalance the previous versions had. Some issues I do have with the new version: The 'night' cards are kind of ugly The box insert is cardboard, rather than plastic which is flimsy and doesn't hold the components well. They got rid of the loan company (millionaires row), which had a nice combo with the moving company
@sojou.RN.
@sojou.RN. 5 лет назад
very helpful, thank you
@JeremyFixIt
@JeremyFixIt 3 года назад
Thanks man! I was really confused what changed, but now it's alot more clear to me.
@geoffreys78
@geoffreys78 3 года назад
Wow, this is super helpful! Thank you!
@pastorpainter
@pastorpainter 8 лет назад
Target left Canada, where can we get exclusives now?
@jcb3393
@jcb3393 5 лет назад
@The Dice Tower - could you please do a Machi Koro comparison video like you did for King of Tokyo?
@hoodaguy
@hoodaguy 8 лет назад
I just picked this up from Target on the weekend when I was in the U.S. (I'm Canadian and our Targets went belly up before most of them were even built). I haven't opened it yet, but glad I bought it after your review. :)
@benediktcz
@benediktcz 8 лет назад
will you pls do a review for castles of burgundy the card game?
@moyinguis
@moyinguis 6 лет назад
Just bought it at Target, it was on clearance, just $14 dlls, great deal.
@gooberweevil
@gooberweevil 8 лет назад
the only thing that seems different is the card backs for separating. the rest of those rules were added with the expansions... really not a fan of the purple night background on the cards. the original bg made everything pop and look bright. it all looks muddy now.
@crystalgalbraith2181
@crystalgalbraith2181 7 лет назад
Do you and your friend use the same cards
@Caleb-iw4gm
@Caleb-iw4gm 6 лет назад
Thanx bro the instructions were so confusing for me lol.
@pharone1
@pharone1 8 лет назад
Does this version have all of the cards from the Harbor Expansion and Millionaires Row expansion?
@That1HatMan
@That1HatMan 7 лет назад
I bought this. It DOES NOT contain all the ALL the cards from all the expansions! It contains what the producers felt were the best out of all the cards and made a new base game. I got pissed, because the back of the game box claimed new cards and new rules. They are not new if you bought any of the expansions. I do not suggest getting this if you are a board game fanatic.
@ashleepradella4912
@ashleepradella4912 8 лет назад
Wow this looks great! I’m happy they’ve made the 2 piles of cards an official rule, In the original + expansion not having any 1-6 cards coming out made the game quite painful. The only negative I see to this edition over the original is the artwork, I think I preferred the day time looking cards.
@bananeroyale
@bananeroyale 8 лет назад
That version force you to use the 5-5-2 variant which seems like a good idea at first but once you realize that it makes the one die strategies way overpowered, you wont use the 7 to 14 row anymore and that just break the game.
@Darwingreen5
@Darwingreen5 8 лет назад
huh, I'm kind of bummed out I just picked up the base game on clearance.
@mellophonium1
@mellophonium1 8 лет назад
I have the original but no expansions. Can I get this and just add my cards to it?
@woehrle17
@woehrle17 8 лет назад
This version comes with all the cards the original had plus more so there's not much point in doubling up just the base cards. I would either buy this version strictly as a replacement for the original(giving your current copy to a friend or for trade on BGG) OR you can buy both expansions and simply separate the 7 cards yourself.
@xaviertiemann
@xaviertiemann 7 лет назад
Couldn't you also play the original version with this?
@TheGamingEntity
@TheGamingEntity 8 лет назад
So, this version makes the 5/5/2 variant the official way of playing? It's supposed to make the game run smoother, but when I tried it, the game just kept on going on forever, with no end in sight!
@Crucis119
@Crucis119 6 лет назад
David Kuling It does make the game a lot longer.
@ronnyay
@ronnyay 8 лет назад
Mind sharing your opinion on component quality? I heard a lot of comments that the cards and insert are of bad quality.
@gooberweevil
@gooberweevil 8 лет назад
just looking at the close up at : 1:47 you can see how cruddy the card quality is.
@ronnyay
@ronnyay 8 лет назад
Thanks for the answer! Guess I will wait for the real definitive edition then :/
@gooberweevil
@gooberweevil 8 лет назад
just get the Machi Koro Deluxe edition... has all of the expansions in. it's ~35-40 bucks. then sleeve them like Cardboard Stacker suggests... you'll have everything here, AND you get the better quality cards and better quality artwork (that plopped on night sky looks AWFUL to me) ... although it does come in a tin (which i'm not a fan of just because of look consistency on my shelf... but i'm anal.)
@ronnyay
@ronnyay 8 лет назад
I heard even the Deluxe edition has horrible card quality... is it true?
@zidavey
@zidavey 7 лет назад
It's cheapy shit, unfortunately. Good game though.
@HamanFRD
@HamanFRD 7 лет назад
Should I buy this version if I don't own the original one?
@JeremyFixIt
@JeremyFixIt 3 года назад
If you have both expansions (metropolis and docks) I would say no, if you only have the base game then you could say yes.
@ronpetersen2317
@ronpetersen2317 7 лет назад
Is there any point in getting this game if you already have the original? Sounds like you can just play it in a similar way. Also Target Exclusives is BS.
@Atariese
@Atariese 8 лет назад
This looks like the version i play anywaies. Harbor expansion, millionares row, and the dice tower promo. I hated the completely random change the harbor brought and looked online to someones suggestion to separate the high/low cards into 2 rows. It looks like they listened to their player base and really figured out how they should do it... that being said... im dissapointed that its not anything new for me.
@TheLomdr
@TheLomdr 8 лет назад
To the point that if you already own it and all of the expansions or Deluxe, you can Jury Rig your own copy of this version, just that the Radio Tower doesn't grant a third die, which is the only major difference there is between the two.
@Mackerachi
@Mackerachi 8 лет назад
I'm not a fan of the night time background at all, it makes the cards look grungy and uninteresting. I've never actually heard of the 5/5/2 variant, but I'm interested to try it.
@missitheachievementhuntres560
@missitheachievementhuntres560 8 лет назад
You should try it, makes the game much better!
@HGA2TG
@HGA2TG Год назад
I think it looks beautiful R
@willddragon
@willddragon 8 лет назад
what are the differences between the two editions?
@TheLomdr
@TheLomdr 8 лет назад
They replaced the Radio Tower from the base game with the Moon Tower and gave that an additional ability of rolling 3 dice (a bit weird considering it only goes up to 14). Any of the other new rules you can play with your old set if you wish, but it will be difficult to keep the 3 decks separate as all of the backs are the same in the original version.
@That1HatMan
@That1HatMan 7 лет назад
There is no new differences other than the art work, oh yea, the Radio Tower is now called the Moon Tower. The card text on the Moon Tower changed, but it is the same effect. Instead of rolling 2 dice and then rerolling 1, you just roll 3 and pick 2. Virtually no difference.
@TheLomdr
@TheLomdr 7 лет назад
I thought it was you had to re do your roll completely (you can't re roll 1 if you rolled two), but I could have read the Radio Tower wrong. also, there are paste ups on the geek that allows you to morph your Radio Tower into the Moon Tower, which does mess with the resolve order. (radio tower is the first step while moon tower is resolved during the roll). Though it's nice that they added something similar to Can't Stop to BCBL
@thecardboardstacker
@thecardboardstacker 8 лет назад
I wonder if owners of the original game could just separate the cards in to those deck and play it that way.
@cometothenerdside
@cometothenerdside 8 лет назад
in fact, you can. it is suggested as a variant in the rules. i have the original plus expansions. after checking the cards on bgg, the only difference between this and the original version plus expansion is the different backs for the cards. also, the artwork shows the buildings at night *yawn*
@thecardboardstacker
@thecardboardstacker 8 лет назад
Thought so. After some research, all the cards are the same it's just that the "Radio Tower" is replaced with the "Moon Tower" The original set could be easily be fix to be made into this new version.
@cometothenerdside
@cometothenerdside 8 лет назад
+Cardboard Stacker i did so a long time ago by sleeving all the cards with sleeves in 3 different colours and transparent ones for the starting cards
@thecardboardstacker
@thecardboardstacker 8 лет назад
I'll be doing the same :)
@gooberweevil
@gooberweevil 8 лет назад
great idea!
@chrisgallo2236
@chrisgallo2236 8 лет назад
Yep the old 5-5-2 variant. I have the original and both expansions and I play this way anyway. It's the only way to play it.
@TheLomdr
@TheLomdr 8 лет назад
Just finally canonized
@webjaker
@webjaker 8 лет назад
This is great for new players, but sucks for me I have the original and the expansions, ill just use the variant play and deal with it
@jcb3393
@jcb3393 5 лет назад
I think this is the version of Machi Koro that we played this weekend... and a 5-player game (all newbies) took over 3 hours to play! I think the main thing that made the game drag on so much was that we had a lot of money flowing, but none stayed in your hands long enough to be useful before being stolen by someone else (i.e., red and purple cards). We had one player who was stuck rolling only one die for the first 2 hours, because his money kept getting taken because of sushi restaurants, french restaurants, and cafes taking his money before he could stockpile anything. The box says "30 minutes", but it should really say "30 minutes per player"!
@godofzombi
@godofzombi 8 лет назад
It's just machi koro + expansions with slightly different art. I saw nothing in this version that can't be done with the Original game (+ expansions), you know, the ones that ARE available outside the US!
@TheLomdr
@TheLomdr 8 лет назад
It's still around, IDW said that the only version that's going out of print is the Deluxe version.
@larflabergasted
@larflabergasted 8 лет назад
The Moon Tower is new (replacing the Radio Tower).
@godofzombi
@godofzombi 8 лет назад
Oh yes, good catch! Now personally I prefer the radio tower as I will try to play with 1 die for as lmong as possible.
@TheLomdr
@TheLomdr 8 лет назад
Didn't realize it until Tom brought it up in the review, I honestly thought it was just another take on the Radio Tower :)
@That1HatMan
@That1HatMan 7 лет назад
The moon tower is not new. it is just a new way to explain the Radio Tower effect.
@icecream10121012
@icecream10121012 7 лет назад
Does the way he says "Koro" bother anyone else?
@jing713
@jing713 6 лет назад
T Hughes koe-row, koh-raw
@joelparks410
@joelparks410 6 лет назад
Ma Chi Ko Ro. He is pronouncing it correctly.
@teenager3628
@teenager3628 8 лет назад
That´s just like the originial game + the expansions. Why should someone who already got the original game buy this ?
@almisami
@almisami 4 года назад
Different artwork, nerfed tuna boat and nerfed radio tower. basically, a balance fix.
@MathieuVIII
@MathieuVIII 8 лет назад
I really despise Machi Koro. I don't understand how some people seem to ignore that the game is practically random. It can be fun to play with kids I guess, but I think there are many more interesting choices.
@suckazz97
@suckazz97 8 лет назад
I always do well in this game. It does seem to be more popular with casual gamers than more hardcore players, but when they whine there is no strategy and it's too random and they keep making dumb choices which keep them from winning, I shake my head. I think the mix between randomness and strategy is perfect for this game - but it's not for everyone - nothing is.
@Crucis119
@Crucis119 6 лет назад
I think that's kind of a cocky point of view. It's a really great game to introydce to friends or family who aren't experienced tabletop players. I bring it to family stuff for that reason. It's something different from the classic Monopoly, and it really engages people. And it does actually include more than basic strategy. It requires thinking ahead based on number of players, and types of players too.
@jonathonwsims
@jonathonwsims 7 лет назад
All I can see is that thing on your lip...
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