@@MrMp33420 he's more like a virus now the anomalies opposite side to destroy the matrix. Which is what they should be doing which now that I think about it wouldn't make smith the good guy then?
@@Daster131 Hes not going to destroy it hes just going to take it over along with all the machines in the world. Hed kill everyone in the real world even if zion got restarted and then he would enslave the ai which the machines possess. So everyone except smith would lose.
@@machoman6969 well they wanted to live in peace. Make humanity proud of their creation. But the humans destroyed the world and themselves, only way we could live together was the Matrix.
I've been binging on did systems videos. And I'm loving the idea that neo has did and we see his inner world all centred around coming to terms with and balancing out his protagonist ego alter. But to really solve it we would have to see what childhood trauma he went through to split himself in the first place
That line is very symbolic to the franchise. In the past before the war, the machines were the first ones to offer peaceful coexistence with the humans. Humans resisted. It led to war. The humans lost. Now it's the humans who are offering peace.
fav line was the machine exclaiming "we need nothing". packed into that statement is so much hatred and boiling rage. it really gave me a sense that humanity has fucked the machines over so badly as to create this kind of enmity
Just now realising why Neo was able to understand The Machines and bring peace - he sees them how they perceive themselves (as golden light) and he can see how beautiful Machine City is. The Machines likely see Humanity as a horror in the same way we see them, but now Neo sees past all that and can bridge both sides
Neo really thought this through. If he defeats Smith in the fight then Smith is destroyed. But if he loses then Smith will try to 'copy' him (since Smith already tried it before) then Machines gain access to Delete him. That's why when the Machines ask "If you fail?", Neo simply says "I won't" - Neo wins either way. Nothing is more dangerous than a man who has nothing to lose.
Smith is basically Neo himself multiplied by -1, a negative. If you add +1 and -1, then you get zero. That's why it had not been a problem when Smith and Neo became one.
Or he got everything even he loses or wins or so he won first and saw he got fucking everything and then he started losing and saw that he got fucking eveyyin this way also . But that was not the first intention! The intention was to choose the difficult to impossible way to win and then it all happened which is happening or would happen or already happened or not or yes. Yahaya ZQ here 😎😋😊
"if that's true then I've made a mistake, you should kill me now" most badass line, he truly has nothing left to lose and no longer fears death. regardless of what people say the matrix sequels are fucking awesome
ok ty, but i would expect the machine not be guided by petty emotion, and simply calculate benefits, and balance equation, would also not expect machine to keep its word, y would it? Good reputation is not in need for a machine.
@@CynicalCell No I didn't think the 'Deus ex Machina/Machine God' and 'The Architect' were one and the same being, I always felt they were completely separate programs myself. The latter running The Matrix but being subservient to the former out in the real world. I'm not certain, but it seems unlikely that the program tasked with building and running The Matrix would also be the ruler of the Machine World?
Gotta love the little detail of the sheer curiosity of the machines at having a human wandering around 01 for perhaps the first time in 600 or so years, to them we'd be the 'boogeymen' who tried to wipe them out and everything they did was in self defence and now after all this time here's one of the 'monsters' in the flesh.
That and not using an EMP. Probably why they shot down the ship, they thought the humans were gonna launch an EMP. Now, as you said, here's a human waling around with no weapons and not being hostile after they shot him down, the only act of hostility being defending the ship back when he and Trinity were trying to fly in.
I love to think that there are countless machines who have never seen a human and live a normal peaceful life in their city. Like, they never were at the meat farms, they never accessed the Matrix, they have never seen ships or Zion, they know that all those exist and are fought over, but it is done by Agents and Sentinels, not by them.
@@wjzav1971I had a very hard time believing that machines cared for each other enough to give themselves consciousness beyond that big thing and the sentinels. Like after a certain point they aren’t humanoid bots theyre all squid things that just wander the machine earth it’s creepy and pointless Which by the way was that big machine supposed to be their king? I hate matrix 4 for not continuing right after this ending.
@@himecool3452unlike the first generation of machines that were humanoid and had an indipendent intelligence, those machines act as a collective intelligence, just programming and directive.
The way they all disperse at a huge thunderclap before Deus Ex Macina shows up, it's like the thunder was the equivalent of "make way! The king will speak with this envoy of Zion"
Not wrong - though it's clearly not shared by a lot of 01's inhabitants, here's one of the 'monsters' in their city for the first time in pry around 600 years (if ever) and they're curious as hell about him rather than attempting anything hostile.
Connecting with neo walking in the rain in the final showdown with Smith: "I walk in the valley of the shadow of Death, I shall fear No evil! For God is with me"
Mr.CJ Blastin I seen this movie a bunch of times never notice that I research that part of the clip and I smack my forehead and said wow how did I miss that so many times
I live in NE England where we have a food called pease pudding, which is made from peas. I'm now living with the sentinels dropping pease pudding on Neo. Thank you for this imagery.
Notice how Morpheus is so willing to take risks, the reason why he was chosen by the Oracle, and how Niobi is conservative but has a place in her heart for miracles, the reason the Oracle chose her to help Morpheus and Neo.
That’s the continual pattern of distillation as well as diffusion of believers amongst non believers, the relative relationship between miracle and belief is a strong yet opposing one
The voice of the Deus Ex Machina (as it sounded in the theater) is, to this day, one of my favorite sound effects. They somehow piped the voice through the subwoofer channels to the point that you felt the words in your chest - it was really a strange and unnerving effect.
TCT where did you get the ‘o’ from, and where did the second ‘e’ go? In any case, Deus Ex Machina is Latin for ‘god from the machine’, and actually refers to a literary trope where the plot is resolved by something bizarre happening out of nowhere (for example, in ‘War of the Worlds’, the alien machines are unstoppable, until common bacteria suddenly caused them to malfunction and collapse, saving humanity). The term itself refers to specifically to Ancient Greek theater, where plays would sometimes end by having a giant hand (the hand of god) being lowered onto the stage holding the solution to what problem the hero was facing, thus resolving the plot and leading to a happy end.
Oscar Jimenez Yea I know what you mean, the final movie was so hyped up everyone was expecting this finale that would've really made them think. Something to change them on the inside and it was a straight action movie. Then that final scene with the Oracle and Creator was just so bland, You already knew the outcome? Yea I pretty much did. So you're going to let everyone go? Yea we will thats fine. So what happens now? I dunno we're figure out another way to get energy thats not from humans. Then End....OK? lol
The fact that neo so easily was able to ask for peace and the machines were more than willing to oblige shows that it was the humans all along who created their own demise by attacking the machines first. When the machine economy was doing great the humans blockaded them, then tried to nuke them, then blotted out the sun and declared war, all the while the machines sent their own ambassadors to make peace with them and the humans destroyed the machine ambassadors. Idk I think machines are more reasonable of the two.
Humans have fear, anger influencing their choices, while the machines with no emotion makes the most logical choice, the one where humans and machines can coexist.
That is kind of wrong, the Machines obliged, because they had no means to stop Smith, they knew it, Neo knew it, as for how the war started in the first place, yes, humans became the creators of their own doom, fun fact, the machines walk exactly the same path, becoming creators of their own doom, treating programs, or AIs as you will, like slaves, erasing them as they wish, without Neo, this time, the machines would loose the war.
It really seems as if Neo and the machines switch places in this scene. Neo is calm and talking as laconically as possible 1:47. But machines feel rage, when Neo tells them they can't stop Smith without him, even though they are supposed to have no emotions 2:11
That was one of the main points the sequels were making, both sides need each other. Humans needs the Machines and the Matrix because you can't support seven billion people stuck in caves on a dead planet, and machines needs humans because they give them purpose. The whole battery thing is just an excuse, there are more efficient sources of power than the Matrix, other than solar - fusion, nuclear, geothermal etc. The fact that they stuck with the concept after the war and made the first Matrix a paradise is plenty telling. For all the bad blood, there must still be something deep inside that makes them want to make humans happy. Also, for all their jib - Machines are very, VERY human and emotionally driven. "We don't need you! We need NOTHING!" is packed with such boiling rage and denial in the face of the obvious. And as the supremely logical Architect said - Denial is the most human of all emotion.
@@TheKain202 They were created by humans after all. So, machines acting like humans isn't that strange, even the non-living ones have their limitations.
who ever said they are not suposed to have emotion? they are sentient being, doesnt mean they do have that but they totaly could and i dont remember a single moment in the 4 movie and in the animatrix where such a claim is made, it's quite the opposite the first machine that kill a human since it didnt want to die very much looks like emotion, smith has emotion, the 2 smith collegue as well when they run away
at first I thought the skies were dark, stormy, and apocalyptic was the machines doing. then I learned it was actually the humans that darkened the sky when they executed operation "Dark Storm".
I love Keanu Reeves acting choices here. Listen to how detatched Neo's voice is. Listen to how defeated he sounds. He knew when he began his passage to the Machine City that he most likely would not survive the journey, and now, you can hear in his voice, see in his expression, that he does not care if he lives or dies at the hands of these Machines. Why? The love of his life is dead. Trinity perished because, as Neo believes, she trusted in him as not only the One, but as her lover. Neo has lost every ounce of fight in him, because it never mattered to him that he is the One, Zion's savior. Trinity mattered to him. How Trinity saw him mattered to him. Trinity's opinion of him mattered to Neo, and now Trinity is gone. Nothing else matters, except to honor her dying wish. To do as she asked with her last breath, to act as he intended at the start of their journey together. To save Zion, to end the war, to bring peace between man and machine, not for any other reason but *Trinity asked him to* . Neo loved Trinity enough to be the hero she believed he could be, even when he walked with a heart broken by grief and guilt, even when he felt as if nothing else mattered. That, my friends, is a true hero. And this is why I feel Keanu Reeves is a freaking genius. In only six lines, he portrayed the emotions whirling through Neo's head. Bravo, Keanu, bravo indeed.
One of the small things I like in the detail is when Neo is about to enter the matrix the machine asks "and if you fail?" When Neo responds "I won't" if you look at the machine you can see it give a big smile knowing Neo is good on his word.
Which is odd because machines do not feel emotion. But upon further analysis, it was meant to convey to Neo that the machines are in agreement to the deal based on his answer because to them his confidence makes the odds of success much more in their favor. It's brilliant because they are mimicking human facial gestures similar to how we make gestures to animals to signal approval or disapproval. My only problem is his head his facing upwards though he may have caught it in his peripheral vision, or possesses a type of omni-vision.
@@bbradley92 where did you get that machines do not feel emotion in this world? There are several instances of machines and programs showing emotion throughout the series. Even in this scene where the source says "We don't need you!" with anger and resentment.
Neo sees the world the way the machines do. In the Matrix all he sees is code. And in the real world he sees energy. Human bodies glow with bioelectricity and he sees the power running through the walls and floors of machine city.
You do understand the machines are the GOVERNMENT LEGAL complex,don’t you? They are waiting for us to come forth with a peace agreement to gain access to our birth trust account. ALL DEBTS ARE PRE-PAID, but you must step forth and show Life…..Jesus showed the way and is banking remedy disclosure
Imagine being in the Matrix, living and thinking life is normal and real, and then the Smith takeover happens. Would be one of the weirdest, most unexpected apocalypse scenarios lol
@@brucewillixaspirinix9652more like, when he was in the matrix he could do that, but when he became a virus and unplugged, he did it just by assimilating people, all of them.
Imagine hearing that ⁹/11 was a inside job. You will fight the truth because you the "Agent smith" programming designed to keep the lies and matrix together like super glue. Now is the time to find you a conspiracy theorist that sees past all this illof lies.
I cant remember it specifically.. the end credits was the sound climax. Stay thru the entirety. They even had a matrix popcorn bag they handed out for the movie I kept it. It said everything that has a beginning has an end it was special
The Deus Ex Machina smiling after Neo say's that he won't fail...he hates him because he's a human, but he liked the absolute confidence and lack of fear..I guess he sounded just like a machine in that moment, and it respected that.
At this point he’s lost trinity and has nothing to lose, plus now his love for trinity is now “general” rather than “specific” as it was originally intended and now he’s ready to save humanity. Whether or not he’s the one, whether the prophecy of the one is a lie, or whether smith is the one, or smith and neo are the one’s two polarised parts, he is now ready to fulfil the purpose of the prophecised one, and at the same time is fulfilling the purpose of the anomaly by returning literally to the source.
In Reloaded, Seraph's statement "I protect that which matters most" is telling. Doesn't The One matter most? Not really - The One is a pawn in the game The Oracle is playing. He's the most critical pawn, to be sure, but a pawn nonetheless. The stakes are incredibly high in this game, and The Oracle matters more than anything, because without her the humans have no chance to break the cycle and end the war. And she sees a unique opportunity in Agent Smith's ascension: here's a way to unbalance the equation this time around. Here's a way to ensure a different outcome than the five previous times. Thank you, Smith!
Seraph's statements are true only from Seraph's perspective. The only character in the matrix that explicitly tries to empathize is the architect, as he applied his inductive function to Neo.
In other words Neo isn’t actually “The One” But it’s actually Smith who’s indeed “The One” since he’s the reason why the Oracle and the machines were able to reload the matrix in the end.
IW_LEGENDARY_SAYaiN22 I disagree Neo is the one. People trying to say Smith is the real One simply because he gave Neo an opportunity to end the war, do so on little merit. At the end of the day, Neo ended the war, not Smith. The machine would've killed everyone in Zion. Smith wasn't gonna stop that. Only Neo could.
Interesting thing, when the machines first manifest in that face they swirl around and wiz past him trying to be intimidating and prey on his fear, when he asks for peace and offers to help them, the tentacles very gently creep to him and slowly ease him back. Perhaps there's more humanity left in the machines than we thought.
The machine are more human then even the human, they wanted peace but the human attacked them, but the machine fought back, but their human side made them as bad as human.
I like how the sentinels back away from Morpheus, an uneasy cease-fire. It’s like an armistice; a ceasing of hostility. However, it could very easily go back to war. 03:51
@ Laconic913 *shut up you stupid millennial don't ruin a masterpeace with your MCU shit, also that part of the film made no sense anyways just because you can make a time loop doesn't mean you don't feel pain or suffer i'm sure dr strange would be screwed more from his trick not the giant fucking alien face, his the one dying repeatedly*
I watch this when I was a kid and understand nothing, now after I grow up watching this again, finally understand the films and to be honest these 3 films are great, and considering this was made in 1999, we must appreciate the special effect team tho
We see the machine source go through all the stages of grief in this scene. Initial denial, anger, depression when it decides to listen and says 'speak' and finally acceptance with agreeing to help neo and smile.
I know people rip on this scene, but I love that it’s actually kind of horrifying that on its evolutionary scale, the machine source sees itself as an infant.
How ironic. In the last time Neo met Smith, he was connected from the city of the Machines. He was cooperating with the Machines in order to protect and save Matrix. It looked like the roles inverted since the first time Neo met Smith, when Smith was an agent of Matrix, a program created to protect it from every threats.
" If that's true, then I've made a mistake, and you should kill me now." Losing Trinity gave Neo true fearlessness, he couldn't live without her but he knows he still has a mission to see through to the end. I can't help but think even the machines must have felt intimidated by his response. I love the cotnrast the human responds coldly and without emotion, but the machine rages and screams in anger.
How profound for the Dues Ex Machina to ask Neo the question "and if you fail"...This is a high functioning, unprecedented machine we're talking about....but it still doubted its ability to calculate probabilities and the likelihood of success.
Well, at the end of the day they are intelligent beings that function just like humans, instead of using a biological brain or a biological heart, the use artificial neurons and a mechanical battery. Besides that, the machines can calculate different scenarios in seconds and they know that their odds are not in their favor, and that the only scenario that has a chance to succeed is by working with Neo. Personally, i believe that A.I. takes from it's creator or parent, just like children do with their parents.
I like how that Neo was responding like a Machine with no emotion but with facts and precision Where’s the Machine was responding like a human, denial of needing Neo help to stop Agent Smith and asking questions of possible failure but Neo responded like a machine simple without hesitation he won’t fail
What I loved about the matrix sequels was the concept of AI's that weren't part of the machine hive-mind. Or began as an appendage of the machine hive but slowly formed their own identities, and their own unique goals- subject to no one but themselves.
***** yea thats were machines made a country when humans were killing them all, after the machines were nuked they killed most humans. watch the animatrix for the whole story
"I want peas" "We all want peace, but how do we get it?" "With a knife!" "Excatly not with the olive branch but with the bayonet.".. Neo you're like the son I never had."
the dialogue where they go Neo... He fights for us... and then the transition into Neo's slow walk, is possibly the most badass moment in the entire trilogy
It makes sense for the new movie they just jacked in the matrix in an alternate reality to keep control of him while they fix his original body. Neo is the latest “one” is so OP and if they killed him then the next “one” would probably be way stronger. It’s kinda of like MHA.
the matrix is very real. maybe not as in we are litterally plugged in , but we are plugged into a system that fools us and lies to us. to keep us in check. the way the matrix symbolizes real life, no movie has ever done it. this movie is unparalelled. insane
Neo: I only ask to say what I've come to say. After that do what you want and I wont try and stop you. Machines: Speak! Neo: Train A, traveling 70 miles per hour (mph), leaves Westford heading toward Eastford, 260 miles away. At the same time Train B, traveling 60 mph, leaves Eastford heading toward Westford. When do the two trains meet? How far from each city do they meet?
I don’t know. I’m too stupid. Better question. If a 25 cent hoe becomes bi polar. Is she a 50 cent hoe. In Farsi it’s bistpanj cent or panjah cent. Death is the road to awe sound track between oracle and neo. She’s also in song pigs by Floyd. She also gets C&ceed. Drilled boneless. But who goes first. Imam of tim joke. Morphus is Alex Jones. Oracle Helena petrovana. Little Indian girl is a daughter neo and trinity had. When Mohammad and Khadijah. Called fatemeh Zahra. Or Snatam kaur. Also Adam and Eve.
The ironic thing about the matrix franchise is that if the first film hadn't have been such a major success and instead just a cult film, the influence of the studio wouldn't have been as strong on the sequels to put so much emphasis on action and the writers would have been able to develop the characters and story more. The sequels were over saturated with action and spectacle that they lost the heart in the film's original story. A blend of action and emotion was missing. However the sequels where ok, but not as good as they could have been.
+TheCelticTiger32 I thought the Wachowskis had complete creative control? Also the first film is by far the best of the trilogy but honestly there wasn't much heart or character development to it. The sequels had fascinating stories as well I thought, even if there was some really stupid bullshit like this CGI talking robot face.
HunchbackEntertainment yeah, but I feel like they were pressured by the studio and this added stress inhibited their creativity. I get the impression from the films that the spectacle and action were to be the attraction and not the story. If the films were less popular I would think that the sequels would have been even better. The mainstream audience tends to not care less about the story and just come for the action. If the film had not have not have been so mainstream things could have been different.
TheCelticTiger32 If it hadn't been so mainstream we probably wouldn't have gotten sequels at all, since there was never supposed to be any. As far as unplanned sequels and trilogies go I'd say The Matrix is pretty damn good.
+HunchbackEntertainment actually, the machines had been persecuted by humans, and banishednto their own island where they became very successful. they ran all manufacturing and their credit and currency was the most valuable. then humans attacked, which caused the matrix 1. that's why when Neo offers his help, the machine responds "we don't need you, we need nothing!!" but as Neo correctly predicted, this was not actually true. the machine wouldn't hurt Neo, knowing that it needed him to deal with Smith. So Neo uses this weakness to force peace. at the end of the day, after all that fighting, machines and human reliance on one another ended up ending the war. I think the robot baby face is crucial to understanding what happens at the end, and why the peace isn't as strong as you would believe. machines would probably still be wary of humans.
HunchbackEntertainment they were very convoluted and lacking depth. They brought forward very original ideas,but didn't fully develop them. The sequels were good but needed ironing out to make them blend better together. Although ok they felt rushed
I love you, forever, Keanu Reeves. Not only are you a brilliant actor who chose to worship with Jack Nicholson and Diane Keaton after this, but you are a beautiful human being who loves his fans and always shows the love and gratitude. Vote for Saint Keanu!!!!!!!
The scene before when their ship (the Icarus) is crashing down after they have been above the clouds, refers to the Greek myth of Icarus and Daedalus. Where icarus wants to go higher but was blinded by his objective and crashes down onto the earth and dies. Gotta love the matrix for all the hidden references.
