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@TolarianCommunityCollege
@TolarianCommunityCollege 3 года назад
Why Does Standard Keep Failing? Untitled MTG Podcast #18 (feat. TheAsianAvenger of MTGGoldfish) here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_poAn1wlG8U.html
@hrevans83
@hrevans83 3 года назад
Because commanders rules and standard drools!
@puppyton2793
@puppyton2793 3 года назад
Tolarian Community College can planeswalker a go to earth now? And if so is it the walking dead earth instead of ours?
@bradensorensen966
@bradensorensen966 3 года назад
I'm sorry to admit this, but I kinda want this secret lair. I somewhat wish that they were just skins over existing creatures, but I somewhat like that they are mechanically unique too. Sorry to fuel Wizards of the Coast. I just feel how I feel.
@somedudeontheinterwebs45
@somedudeontheinterwebs45 3 года назад
Thank you for unpinning that hate comment. It is not okay to shame people in such a manner and it went against what you stood for, but you listened to criticism and left it alone. Respect to you prof :)
@TranslationX
@TranslationX 3 года назад
Actually these TWD cards are just skins. Rosewater already confirmed they have these cards with different names and art.
@TierZoo
@TierZoo 3 года назад
I for one look forward to swinging for game with Travis Scott
@kriptonite981
@kriptonite981 3 года назад
TierZoo on an MTG channel? A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
@maugondola2565
@maugondola2565 3 года назад
I know u :0
@pendagar449
@pendagar449 3 года назад
Thanks I hate it
@erentsen
@erentsen 3 года назад
First he plays Among Us with RubberRoss & co. Now he is a student at Tolarian Community College. That's hella cool
@bradlopez3681
@bradlopez3681 3 года назад
Mtg creatures tier list?
@prn_Melatonin
@prn_Melatonin 3 года назад
"I tap Shinji to crew Evangelion. Then i move to combat and attack with Drogon, Eva 1 and Gandalf." - Magic in 2030
@forsakenquery
@forsakenquery 3 года назад
2025
@sirkana
@sirkana 3 года назад
2020 ain't over yet!
@S0L1nv1ctus
@S0L1nv1ctus 3 года назад
Lol whats next godzilla cards? Oh wait.....
@trident042
@trident042 3 года назад
See you're forgetting the feel bad immediately after that where that player's opponent couldn't get Gandalf because he missed that Secret Lair.
@LifeIsImbA
@LifeIsImbA 3 года назад
I block with Chandler from Friends and tap Ronald Mc Donalds to create 2 ChickenMcNuggets. Then I play RKO out of nowhere on your Gandalf.
@Drayle88
@Drayle88 3 года назад
Magic: The Gathering Secret Lair - RAID Shadow Legends! When this happens, I quit
@chasebalcziunas4289
@chasebalcziunas4289 3 года назад
Raycon - Shadow Legends VPN
@Ray-dw3wg
@Ray-dw3wg 3 года назад
That would be better then Walking Dead because at least Raid is fantasy style
@davidwoodroffe3986
@davidwoodroffe3986 3 года назад
Not when I counter it with Nord VPN.
@yo_mojo5899
@yo_mojo5899 3 года назад
U can't quit.
@sorubro2193
@sorubro2193 3 года назад
Afk arena
@SacredFlames89
@SacredFlames89 3 года назад
The irony of WotC preserving the "Reserve List" because of a promise that it made but then continually printing unique promos after the "DragonCon" promise is truly astounding
@lazarus8472
@lazarus8472 3 года назад
I wonder if this now would give people precedent for a counter lawsuit since as of 2 weeks ago WOTC made a promise it wouldn't print this trash then went and printed it anwyay. I mean if we're going to trust them on one bullshit promise why should we trust them on another?
@poluicionador
@poluicionador 3 года назад
Is more than the promise, they don't want a gambling regulation over their booster packs similar to what happened with loot boxes.
@towelociraptor
@towelociraptor 3 года назад
Imagine losing to a pickle rick edh deck
@dittmar104
@dittmar104 3 года назад
you know that's gonna be five colour degeneracy at it's finest
@rodgerlang884
@rodgerlang884 3 года назад
🤣 you win
@impora8145
@impora8145 3 года назад
noooOOOOO
@nuestroangelomiguela.979
@nuestroangelomiguela.979 3 года назад
Funniest shit I have ever seen
@clyj1596
@clyj1596 3 года назад
Mono green pickle rick sounds fantastic! Make this happen wotc great idea professor
@Hitzel
@Hitzel 3 года назад
When the Professor and Rudy are making the same points, you know it's bad.
@dstructr-hz1fr
@dstructr-hz1fr 3 года назад
So true... And frankly, the first time this has really ever happened, right?
@Josh_Fredman
@Josh_Fredman 3 года назад
@@dstructr-hz1fr Actually the Prof and Mr. Taco agree a fair amount of the time! Both of them love the game, just from very different perspectives. Most of their disagreements occur when there is conflict between the the game being fun and accessible vs. the value of the secondary market being respected and upheld.
@dstructr-hz1fr
@dstructr-hz1fr 3 года назад
@@Josh_Fredman Totally agree with you, Josh. My comment was rather meant to be understood with a wink. I am more on the side of the Prof (after all, it is still a Trading Card GAME) but if it was just "Greedy" Rudy, I would not watch his content. I was just thinking of his recent - and very short - "The Reserved List is a Lie" Video
@Dreadnorth7734
@Dreadnorth7734 3 года назад
rudy and des are saying the same thats waht not right
@CrosswaIk
@CrosswaIk 3 года назад
They always make the same point aside from reserved list.
@andyik9009
@andyik9009 3 года назад
Can't wait for them to finally print Shrek as a real card. A commander deck has many layers like an onion. Now i can finally make my ogre tribal deck. Swinging for lethal saying it's all ogre now.
@doggosuchwow1593
@doggosuchwow1593 3 года назад
YES!!!!!!!!! XD
@twqzjsidIsndusiakdixisqjeksixi
@twqzjsidIsndusiakdixisqjeksixi 3 года назад
@@doggosuchwow1593 my sides are gone lol
@user-js4gd8nk7s
@user-js4gd8nk7s 2 года назад
-It's my swamp! -*plays annex* Our swamp!
@flameofmage1099
@flameofmage1099 Год назад
Please give him Swampwalk or something
@JusSomeGuyOnInternet
@JusSomeGuyOnInternet 3 года назад
I'm glad one of the largest MtG RU-vid channels is giving WotC the lashing they deserve.
@doggosuchwow1593
@doggosuchwow1593 3 года назад
He's done this for literally every other product. Lol.
@SecondThought
@SecondThought 3 года назад
Fantastic work, Professor. It sucks that you had to make this video, but you hit the nail on the head here.
@hoverant7709
@hoverant7709 3 года назад
You play Magic the gathering?
@strahlungsopfer
@strahlungsopfer 3 года назад
I had no idea half the channels i subbed to are magic players. Good to have your support
@SecondThought
@SecondThought 3 года назад
Yep, I’m a huge Magic fan! I’ve been toying with the idea of starting my own Magic channel as a way to de-stress from my other content.
@hoverant7709
@hoverant7709 3 года назад
@@SecondThought Wow that's amazing and I would love to see that also I'm a huge fan of your
@strahlungsopfer
@strahlungsopfer 3 года назад
@@SecondThought Please let us know through this channel should you decide to do it. I'd absolutely love to watch your magic content :)
@ironfist705
@ironfist705 3 года назад
“Like a rat, pushing a button, for sexually simulation” had me dying lmao
@lucianocortes8636
@lucianocortes8636 3 года назад
Me realizing I'm both a rat and WotC at the same time.
@mpetry8470
@mpetry8470 3 года назад
Operant conditioning at it’s very best you sex starved rat!!
@XiaosChannel
@XiaosChannel 3 года назад
that's not an original idea.
@christopherlundgren1700
@christopherlundgren1700 3 года назад
Most researchers are content to supply a food pellet or a piece of fruit. Our Professor has all his rats hooked up to tiny mindslavers with Orgasmo powers.
@seankuhn6633
@seankuhn6633 3 года назад
Wizards your Late stage capatalism is showing. Inb4 billie ilish (planeswalker) at 56% of a legacy tournament
@radkid1110
@radkid1110 3 года назад
"That's just the card. It's just Sheldon. You need Sheldon now" 😂😂
@nichmiller4251
@nichmiller4251 3 года назад
Anyone remember when a "draft booster" was just a "booster"??
@bryanlim9817
@bryanlim9817 3 года назад
me
@jayabber7323
@jayabber7323 3 года назад
WOTC : "Real life literature has no place on Magic cards, we'll write our own flavor text from now on." Also WOTC : "hehe, Negan fights the gods of Theros"
@pike1294
@pike1294 3 года назад
Oh man, he actually is removal for theros gods too
@PrettierNPastel
@PrettierNPastel 3 года назад
Negan hits Helios over head with mean bat
@alexanderdnieves5286
@alexanderdnieves5286 3 года назад
Who would win , C H O N K Y Eldrazi or Negan bat goes brrrrrrrrr
@danielbretado7660
@danielbretado7660 3 года назад
@@PrettierNPastel Elspeth and Erebos will be whistling and clapping in the back.
@asteria9963
@asteria9963 3 года назад
My thoughts exactly
@anonymoususer69
@anonymoususer69 3 года назад
“Maybe this game isn’t for you” Wizards has been saying this for years, but only recently did anyone actually listen
@froschkenig
@froschkenig 3 года назад
Jup. Won't stop playing MtG though, just kinda play "Vanilla-MtG" or Cubes me and my friends like. Definitely not buying any new products.
@DoomkaliburCruiser
@DoomkaliburCruiser 3 года назад
Their actual comments have been "maybe this product isn't for you" not the game. Previously they had only ever addressed premium products like mythic edition and collector boosters, which was fine because you could still obtain the game pieces to play in a fairly easy manner.
@faefeatherweight
@faefeatherweight 3 года назад
I left years ago because of this. I just play with a cube and some commander decks, as if my collection was in its entirety, the game, and I find it healthier. If I need new cards, I'll print proxies. It pains me to see the descent into hell of the game these last years.
@cdanielh128
@cdanielh128 3 года назад
Me and the wife do not buy new MtG anymore for some years now. We just stopped. We saw what was happening to the community from the greed of the company and walked away. If we want cards we try to support our local shops and buy from them but at the end of the day we pretty much just buy from the community and build decks and have fun without WotC. We pretty much only play with a few friends and family now. Its been years since I even walked into a shop on a Friday.
@nickhoffman9256
@nickhoffman9256 3 года назад
Well, I’m listening now. So long wizards, I’m off to rejoin the Imperium of Man
@kiyankurdi6135
@kiyankurdi6135 3 года назад
I wouldn’t be surprised if they’d print exclusive new “common” secret lair cards and ruin pauper as well
@anthonykoenig8901
@anthonykoenig8901 3 года назад
Lmao
@elliottreadings8029
@elliottreadings8029 3 года назад
Don't even joke dude. Pauper is all I have.
@michaelreppenhagen736
@michaelreppenhagen736 3 года назад
In 5 years, we will have a format called "Smash" where you can only play with cards from other IP. In this format, I will equip my Masamune to Sonic the Hedgehog, thereby making it automatically kill your Iron Man if you block with it.
@RobertLynch-kj7tm
@RobertLynch-kj7tm 3 года назад
Idec if this is a joke or not, I would honestly be so down for that. Maybe print these and the rest of the Secret Lair mash-ups in the silver border (I know they won't) and have those legal in "Smash." Personally, it sounds like a really fun idea
@siulaf3878
@siulaf3878 3 года назад
Frieza 9402 ye but then theyll keep releasing cards like these
@RobertLynch-kj7tm
@RobertLynch-kj7tm 3 года назад
@@siulaf3878 So?
@siulaf3878
@siulaf3878 3 года назад
Frieza 9402 did you just see the backlash it got? Thats whats gonna happen
@fillyal85
@fillyal85 3 года назад
Not if I equip iron man with the gandalf's staff that I tutored up with Palpatine's machinations
@ShadowLynx777
@ShadowLynx777 3 года назад
Prof: *sarcastically listing characters* wotc: Quick, write them down!
@YourCrazyOverlord
@YourCrazyOverlord 3 года назад
I'll have long quit the game by the time they make a Pickle Rick, which will let me find it incredibly funny.
@omegacardboard5834
@omegacardboard5834 3 года назад
Rudy did the same thing
@ShadowLynx777
@ShadowLynx777 3 года назад
@@BrilpoetsdoekjePSN That Bikini Bottom Secret Lair is gonna be pretty legit
@jackhill3273
@jackhill3273 3 года назад
@@ShadowLynx777 gonna get all the Kids and Adults into Magic right there
@austinreed7343
@austinreed7343 3 года назад
BrilpoetsdoekjePSN Kaede Akamatsu would be great.
@VGJustice
@VGJustice 3 года назад
Y'know, when we said Stryxhaven was "the Harry Potter set", we didn't mean that to be literal.
@BraveSirNivag
@BraveSirNivag 3 года назад
I don't even want it to be figurative. Alluding to HP at all is going to make it dumb.
@duditsgrey5148
@duditsgrey5148 3 года назад
@@BraveSirNivag yeah no shit
@Arghore
@Arghore 3 года назад
I'm fearful now :( ... like i don't mind taking 'inspiration' from other franchises, because lets be honest 'every other plane/set' is 'like' the Walking Dead (but obviously just because there are zombies everywhere, and people fighting them, doesn't mean it IS the walking dead). Same with the concept of a plane with wizard schools, heck we already got some, so obviously there be planes with competing schools and what not, dragons 'check', weird creatures and how to crack them from packs 'check'; A small group of 'teenagers' trying to foil the big plan of the big evil thing 'check'. But obviously the moment Harry Potter shows up on a card, the whole thing just gets F'ing weird !!
@irondude0611
@irondude0611 3 года назад
Kasmina is Hermione confirmed?
@lucasfigueroa6165
@lucasfigueroa6165 3 года назад
Please Don't!! Please WoTC don't do Harry Potter cards
@DBZBeyond1991
@DBZBeyond1991 3 года назад
It makes me happy seeing The Professor and so many other MtG community representatives speaking truthfully about this. The magic (no pun intended) of this game is being stripped away by featuring outside IP’s and making them competitive format legal. The fans and dedicated players need to show their anger, Wizards needs to know that this is wrong. Prof, you are right that they will continue to make these in the foreseeable future, and that scares me. It won’t be a game anymore at that point, just a marketing scheme. Let them know my fellow spellslingers, that we can’t put up with this
@brianestepa2376
@brianestepa2376 4 месяца назад
how is it bad to have collabs… its so cool and brings more people to the game. why wouldnt you enjoy being able to make a deck themed around your favorite ip? do you feel the same way about the upcoming fallout collab?
@nickramos4012
@nickramos4012 3 года назад
Why does it feel like we don't have a voice? That line " maybe this game isn't for you" cut deep.
@joshcotter6079
@joshcotter6079 3 года назад
This feels like an I'm not angry, just disappointed speech from a father figure.
@DraconisMarchVII
@DraconisMarchVII 3 года назад
The kind after which you either shape the fuck up or let yourself deteriorate until you're lying in a gutter.
@loganchristiansen564
@loganchristiansen564 3 года назад
I pretty sure prof has been playing mtg longer than most of wizard's corporate heads
@painmerchantgaming5193
@painmerchantgaming5193 3 года назад
@@loganchristiansen564 He has not....he hasn't been playing that long oddly.
@Josh_Fredman
@Josh_Fredman 3 года назад
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Once a company is sold by its original founders to a giant megacorporation, it's only a matter of time before either the product quality is diluted to save money, or the brand is diluted by hyper-expanding the product to make more money. It's an inherent failure mode of stakeholder-driven economics. When the people making the decisions are beholden to the stakeholders, and the stakeholders only care about money, nothing is sacred: not product quality, not loyalty to customers, not the company's corporate values. I imagine there is a lot of internal disaffection in Wizards over the direction the company is moving in; I wouldn't be surprised if we see an increase in retirements and resignations once the pandemic subsides.
@Discostick55
@Discostick55 3 года назад
Yeah, this should be some sort of adage. You see it with entertainment IP everywhere... corporation and their bean counters buy and ruin everything because they want to cater to the lowest common denominator and avoid 'risks', killing creativity. Star Wars ruined by Disney, Blizzard IP ruined by Activision, etc...
@poluicionador
@poluicionador 3 года назад
That is how DC was funded.
@josetomastorresguerrero2414
@josetomastorresguerrero2414 3 года назад
Can you imagine Tolkien ending his novel with a "And finally the avengers arrived and defeated Sauron? This is how it makes me feel. I will just say that every person who buys this abomination will put their grain of sand to destroy this game
@nickfifteen
@nickfifteen 3 года назад
What's even more frustrating is the idea that Un-set cards exist, which are infinitely MORE "Magic-y" than The Walking Dead ever will be, but are eternally silver-bordered. I mean, the idea that cards from an unrelated television franchise are officially MORE legal to play than cards from an _actual_ Magic plane (Bablovia) with _actual_ Magic flavor and lore.. talk about skewed priorities.
@Gmaninator10
@Gmaninator10 3 года назад
Dang i just liked the art, didnt realize i was destroying a game in the process.
@shamuscrawford
@shamuscrawford 3 года назад
I bought it because I play legacy and I dont want to get stuck if these become playable. I also don't feel its ok to put the blame for this terrible product on players. In my opinion thats akin to demonizing people who played with nexus of fate while that was legal.
@Mantyszyger
@Mantyszyger 3 года назад
I wouldn't even class Magic IP with Tolkien. Sure, players can enshrine themselves with the Lore, but it isn't an RPG or an epic journey of that scale. It's a game where the names of the cards are there to distinguish the mechanics from other cards. They've established that there are different planes of existence, so that opens it up to anything, similar to Doctor Who. These cross overs are simply for advertising and something fun, I hope they aren't meant to be part of the universe. Magic is `my 2/2 Grizzly bear attacks and block with your 1/1 Goblin". It was never meant to have an adventurous sprawled out journey for players to be captivated by. It was mostly made up on a whim as the game kept growing and growing, so it's artist vision is non existent. It's like saying that Monopoly shouldn`t have cross over unique versions of the game, because a Transformers or Halo Monopoly takes away from the Capitalist experience. WOTC jumping in bed with Hasbro should have been enough for people that had a problem with corporate oversight and marketing injection of crazy ideas to leave a while ago.
@nickfifteen
@nickfifteen 3 года назад
@@shamuscrawford I don't blame players for feeling stuck between a rock and a hard place concerning buying this. I for one am just as conflicted because, as a Korean-American, I want to see MORE Asian and Korean representation in my Western pop media... and so I try to vote with my wallet in support of any company that does Asian representation right (like Avatar TLA!), in the hopes that that company makes the connection of _"increased representation done right = PROFIT"_ The fact that there is an official card for Glenn makes me giddie beyond all belief, as both as a KoreAm and Magic player. However, I'm concerned that if I buy this Secret Lair set, the message Wizards/Hasbro gets is less _"we need to continue making cards of Korean/Asian characters"_ and more _"we need to continue making cards based on franchises that are as far removed from Magic as possible AND make them only available to a small percentage of our player base who have the kind of money to shell out for a playset"_ . Of course it's possible they come to both conclusions, but the fact that the latter EVER crossed their minds is my problem. Chances are I'll just buy Glenn on the secondary market. Or if I'm feeling extraordinarily poetic/dramatic, I'll buy the Secret Lair set, write a letter to Wizards/Hasbro covering all of this, and then include all the non-Glenn cards with the letter to clearly underline my desire to buy that Secret Lair set was for more Korean/Asian Magic cards, not the fact that it was TWD-related. But I dunno if $50 is worth being THAT poetic/dramatic; afterall, I can still write Wizards/Hasbro that letter and just buy Glenn online.
@Zakading
@Zakading 3 года назад
"They'll probably do Pickle Rick or something." Nobody tell him about the Rick & Morty D&D module.
@Mantyszyger
@Mantyszyger 3 года назад
See, now that people can get behind.
@maisiequinn8512
@maisiequinn8512 3 года назад
There's a WHAT?!
@opalescent4694
@opalescent4694 3 года назад
There's at least a difference there. You can play D&D without that book just fine, and you lose nothing from not buying it. If you don't get these cards, then some players literally have something you cannot obtain that is legal in their decks to use against people who cannot use them.
@Mantyszyger
@Mantyszyger 3 года назад
@@opalescent4694 When did players all have the same collection or financial ability to obtain every card that someone else has? The game has never been fair for anyone. How many people have a Black Lotus? Oh no, someone has the walking dead and I don't. It doesn't matter at all. We all don't play with the same cards. If people want t level playing field across the entire game, the living card game system sounds more like their cup of tea. Any random booster game isn't a fair playing field.
@camipco
@camipco 3 года назад
D&D is completely different though, because it's not centered around a competitive game. So you can just choose not to play any D&D module. But I can't choose to play eternal formats without The Walking Dead now.
@lainfinegan6631
@lainfinegan6631 3 года назад
Gathering dollars: The Magic
@otakusatanist
@otakusatanist 3 года назад
Lol
@colecarmichael5724
@colecarmichael5724 3 года назад
Honestly gold bro
@Sonicron86
@Sonicron86 3 года назад
Magic: The Merchandising
@badmoose01
@badmoose01 3 года назад
Magic: The Search For More Money
@nicholasroy4300
@nicholasroy4300 3 года назад
Money: the cashgrab
@Cerberusarms
@Cerberusarms 3 года назад
Ib4 Pickle Rick commander decks. Seriously wtf WOTC, anything to please the shareholders I guess. Appreciate you Prof for having telling it like it is.
@Darwingreen5
@Darwingreen5 3 года назад
Rick and Morty stuff would be fine if it was released normally like the Godzilla stuff.
@four-en-tee
@four-en-tee 3 года назад
It'll be the funniest shit I've ever seen.
@knavenformed9436
@knavenformed9436 3 года назад
@@Darwingreen5 I for one hate even the godzilla cards. The exact moment when a crossover card hits the table I'm not playing MTG anymore, I'm playing a "What if crossover" game.
@MrBerserkinTime
@MrBerserkinTime 3 года назад
@@knavenformed9436 its the only ones i liked, until i saw the price tag
@connorpatterson9202
@connorpatterson9202 3 года назад
If they print Pickle Rick I'm gonna riot
@ConnorLordBassist
@ConnorLordBassist 3 года назад
I can’t wait to swing in for game with The Winged Dragon of Ra in a game of EDH 😂
@Sitharos
@Sitharos 3 года назад
I summon Mega Ultra Chicken, in attack mode!
@elainehelmont4647
@elainehelmont4647 2 года назад
If Ra mtg version sucks as much as its yugioh version I'm sorry to say you won't be swinging that much often 🤣 Obelisk would be better
@ConnorLordBassist
@ConnorLordBassist 2 года назад
@@elainehelmont4647 Oh “sacrifice two creatures and destroy all other creatures on the board” I would guess Obelisk is Simic.
@steventinker3958
@steventinker3958 3 года назад
The professor is always painfully honest, and I respect the hell out of him.
@daxbrass8025
@daxbrass8025 3 года назад
Hilariously, there are now torunament legal magic cards that aren't even being sold in the home country of the Magic world champion.
@HenriqueLima-dw8yn
@HenriqueLima-dw8yn 3 года назад
xd
@jo4ogameplays
@jo4ogameplays 3 года назад
É verdade (it's true)
@victorsales4215
@victorsales4215 3 года назад
As a brazilian, the pain is doubled
@rogaco1984
@rogaco1984 3 года назад
True!
@Lucasbpc
@Lucasbpc 3 года назад
Magic down here in Brazil is an uphill struggle... I have seen friends losing leagues in MOL because the latency adds almost an extra second to every action.
@dantebeleren
@dantebeleren 3 года назад
WotC: Breaks promises to not abuse customers for highly exclusive products Also WotC: Won't break RL
@TenguMatt
@TenguMatt 3 года назад
They will break it when its viewed as profitable. They won't break it soon because they don't need to, when/if the company is ever in danger is when they will break it.
@ultraatari9298
@ultraatari9298 3 года назад
They coulda just reprinted the Power 9
@Shimlarian
@Shimlarian 3 года назад
It's not a promissory
@AstridCeleste96
@AstridCeleste96 3 года назад
@@Asghaad They already pay their lawyers. I doubt it'd be a big deal for them.
@joe.5103
@joe.5103 3 года назад
@Asghaad It would not be a slam dunk win bc of the previous precedent of adjusting the RL w/o being sued. Even if it was a slam dunk promissory estoppel case, businesses breach contracts all the time if its in their best interest. If WOTC runs the numbers and find that they stand to make considerably more money from selling RL reprints than any suit would cost then there is no reason (besides moral obligation, ha 😂) that they would choose to keep said promise. Imo, it’s a ticking time bomb - not if, but when.
@digidestined9336
@digidestined9336 3 года назад
Magic players to wizards: You had our anger, now you have our disappointment. :(
@corey2232
@corey2232 3 года назад
I don't think the "children" aspect holds up very well considering much of the art & lore surrounding MTG in the first place. Everything else though is spot on.
@WRanger87
@WRanger87 3 года назад
True, except that The Walking Dead is set in our world, and the violence is not so much fantasy violence.
@corey2232
@corey2232 3 года назад
@@WRanger87 Fair point. I guess I just always viewed the walking dead as it's own fantasy/ alternate world too. But I can see your point.
@thek838
@thek838 2 года назад
That was the only part he was off on in this video. MTG for sure is mature and not for kids it only takes a few takes to look at some black magic cards and go ah death, gore and agony related things then there are zombies in MTG they all eat/infect people the same as they do in walking dead. Then if one goes read the lore on Lilliana and etc one cannot tell me ah yes that's kid friendly stuff. Family fun for everyone lol. Then going back to the cards a lot of vampires show blood or killing someone. And Olivia herself a headliner for a set that was in a sense of purpose a red wedding which obviously ain't for kids and she has no doubt killed more than Negan and spilled more blood with even more callous. So yeah that point was just a bit off even a adult who loves horror and is not put off by things would find the art of something like Brain Maggot to be a bit eww.
@JRPRussell
@JRPRussell 3 года назад
Note that the Prof's first released video after this announcement was about how to play another game. And all his links in the description are about how to play other games. Heartbreaking
@RaginKavu
@RaginKavu 3 года назад
Heartbreaking as it is, I think it's time Prof should consider other venues, besides Magic, for making a living. Not only I feel his pain, being an old player myself, too, but that would be the one of the strongest messages we as players could send wotc. Having their largest channel stop covering their products would surely affect them in some way. Heck even if Prof started streaming Minecraft, I'd still watch his videos, just so that he can keep it going. I don't want Prof gone from MTG, but the fact that it may be a possibility, is truly saddening.
@streetpeter3210
@streetpeter3210 3 года назад
Should have been silver border. Never been so mad at WotC
@Isheian
@Isheian 3 года назад
Perfect answer.
@supernoodles908
@supernoodles908 3 года назад
@@Isheian the cards should have been in the commander precon decks. Then the walking dead SL skills have been released
@joshuahowell4785
@joshuahowell4785 3 года назад
Exactly. Commander is a social format, so a playgroup can opt to allow silver border cards. Or the Godzilla treatment of existing cards would have been fine too for Vorthos players that want to build a Walking Dead deck. The FOMO driven sale of untested cards, feels bad. Will Golgari zombie equipment be fun/viable? There really isn't any time to build and play test before the Secret Lair drops. And if it does happen to be fun/viable, then we are at the mercy of the secondary market of a product with a limited print run. And if these are reprinted with an MTG flavoring, does that allow someone to potentially run two copies of their commander and avoid the legendary rule?
@streetpeter3210
@streetpeter3210 3 года назад
@@Isheian they've done it for every non magic cross over with a limited release so I dont get why they didn't do it here. Transformer cards, Holiday cards and the My Little Pony cards were all silver bordered.
@kiwi_commander
@kiwi_commander 3 года назад
I would have made them similar to the Ikoria godzilla cards and solved that problem that way.
@Leisuretimegames
@Leisuretimegames 3 года назад
Secret Lair: The Rocky Horror Picture Show
@TNTales
@TNTales 3 года назад
I wouldn't play with those but I would definitely buy them. I mean you could Time Warp and have a Floor Show sorcery.
@ZacksRockingLifestyle
@ZacksRockingLifestyle 3 года назад
I’d love to see the Trans-sylvania plane! /s
@TrilainaBloodwind
@TrilainaBloodwind 3 года назад
Hearing Mitch's feedback was heartbreaking. He was so passionate about the subject. Hearing from you echo those feelings just sucks for the game. There is still something good about this game, but it is fading fast
@justinwhite2725
@justinwhite2725 3 года назад
An arena streamer, Noxious, did an hour long video and you could feel the grief. I Mean real genuine to the point of tears grief. Was heartbreaking.
@psy_p
@psy_p 3 года назад
Another issue with this specific crossover is that, a while ago, rosewater answered a question in his blog about the existence of Earth in the multiverse. He said it doesn't exist because mixing Earth with a fantasy IP would be problematic and they would never do it, so they determined it doesn't exist. Now they do this...
@1261JAHO
@1261JAHO 3 года назад
What about an Earth where zombies never existed?????
@MrSeanfish
@MrSeanfish 3 года назад
So what about the Portal sets? They just happened on a plane that is an exact mirror of the Three Kingdoms period of real history? All of the legendary humans just so happened to be named after and filled the same role as real-life people that actually lived in the Three Kingdoms period? It is considered a "parallel plane" to Earth even though it is an exact copy of ancient Earth, and it's been in mtg lore for ages. (I am not supporting Secret Lair: The Walking Dead, I am merely reminding you that Earth-like worlds are already in Magic)
@MrSeanfish
@MrSeanfish 3 года назад
fireicelightarrows Secret Lair: The Walking Dead isn’t releasing in Latin America, they can still buy the cards on the secondary market. Same thing with Portal. I can go out and buy a card from Portal and have it “exist” in my deck. I don’t think it matters where a card is released to have it “exist” in the greater world of Magic: the Gathering
@psy_p
@psy_p 3 года назад
@@1261JAHO Earth is Earth
@psy_p
@psy_p 3 года назад
@@MrSeanfish P3K and Arabian Nights were from an age before mtg had an organized lore and setting. In that time it was a mess. And yet P3K is mildly compatible with a fantasy setting. Oh and of course P3K happened about 20 years before rosewater answer that question.
@Eclipse8502
@Eclipse8502 3 года назад
Only a matter of time now before we get Doritos Food tokens and Raid Shadow legends commanders, and before you know it, you will have to buy four Happy Meals to get your playset of Ronald McDonald fetches to build your fast food modern tier one deck.
@Malkaveer
@Malkaveer 3 года назад
We all know that WotC would never make fetches that readily available.
@Eclipse8502
@Eclipse8502 3 года назад
They will be limited print collectors vip happy meals
@Walks-With-Fists
@Walks-With-Fists 3 года назад
we’ll need a microwave token for our reheat counter
@kennethdixoniii4113
@kennethdixoniii4113 3 года назад
Shoooot!!! I’m waiting for that fortnight crossover! Lol. This is so stupid.
@lionbartlegends
@lionbartlegends 3 года назад
Tbf yugioh, pokemon and digimon tcg had mcdonalds promo cards
@lagg1e
@lagg1e 3 года назад
"a point for another video, **if I have it in me**" ...Professor, take my energy. The world needs you.
@WTF-WithTheFlow
@WTF-WithTheFlow 3 года назад
Prof, you have a way of making us laugh, ponder things deeply, and at times... break our hearts, simply by showing us your own broken heart. You’re one of my favourite people.
@cassie5248
@cassie5248 3 года назад
This is the first time I've legitimately felt a decision could be part of the death of this game
@stevenhawker2816
@stevenhawker2816 3 года назад
As a walking dead fan who has every issue of the comic and loves the show, I was BEYOND hyped when I found out about the crossover. I dont even want to play these cards, I was going to frame them and put them up above my desk. Two of my favorite things doing a crossover? Yes please. But with these announcements it leaves a massively bad taste in my mouth to even consider buying this obvious cash grab cooperate sellout product. All they had to do was make these silver border like literally EVERY SINGLE OTHER CROSSOVER PRODUCT that had original cards. As a collector, I am very excited, but as a player, I am confused, betrayed, and absolutely furious that wizards is going down this route.
@tempestandacomputer6951
@tempestandacomputer6951 3 года назад
While they have valid points, I find it distasteful from all these youtubers that they shame people that might wanted to buy the product genuinely.
@Ninthtail9
@Ninthtail9 3 года назад
@@tempestandacomputer6951 Those people don't take precedent seriously and are kicking the game down the slope it's already on.
@crazykhespar8487
@crazykhespar8487 3 года назад
Its selling out of the game time.
@AutumnFallen
@AutumnFallen 3 года назад
Definitely buy them if you want them! We can all push for change while you and others enjoy this special, albeit divisive, moment.
@MagicTheKrakening
@MagicTheKrakening 3 года назад
nothing wrong with this set, it's clearly for commander.
@terrylyn
@terrylyn 3 года назад
These cards feel more like unglued joke cards and break the immersion of fantasy world setting completely. I consider this the tipping point when the game is done for good.
@EllingOftedal
@EllingOftedal 3 года назад
You, Mitch (Commander's Quarters) and PleasantKenobi are one of the best content creators having the community in mind. Thanks for being a voice for the community
@OrdMandrell1
@OrdMandrell1 3 года назад
Brian is right here. He's also as respectful in his criticism as is humanly possible. I can't imagine anyone finding fault with this video (outside of disagreement with the central premise).
@TolarianCommunityCollege
@TolarianCommunityCollege 3 года назад
Thank you, friend. Hope all is well out there.
@Rayuzx
@Rayuzx 3 года назад
@@TolarianCommunityCollege Pinning a comment that disagrees with you in a manner like the what you did is incredibly disrespectful and only adds fuel to the fire instead of creating meaningful discourse.
@goldcreeper7376
@goldcreeper7376 3 года назад
@@Rayuzx pointing out bait or idiocy is perfectly normal. You don't swoop down to idiots, you shame them. Some will learn, and the rest will go even further in their idiocy, with both proving you right.
@somedudeontheinterwebs45
@somedudeontheinterwebs45 3 года назад
@@goldcreeper7376 So having reasonable discourse with someone who doesn't understand a situation is "swooping down to their level"?? You don't shame people with any sort of power. It leads to power trips and corruption of morals and ideals. This was so ridiculously disrespectful and not something I'd expect from such a well-meaning person, but nobody is resistant to power trips I guess.
@MrDoyle-ky4he
@MrDoyle-ky4he 3 года назад
@@Rayuzx They decided to post in a public place. They decided to scream into the vastness of the internet. Would it feel better if I screencapped the comment and posted it on reddit or something?
@lthammox
@lthammox 3 года назад
I just hate them for the flavour fail. It’s like monster trucks in LotR.
@gamefreak3072
@gamefreak3072 3 года назад
would be cool if the trucks were actual monsters. like a gorgon truck that turned other trucks into stone
@fidly4
@fidly4 3 года назад
I honestly would've felt a lot better about this if they dressed up the walking dead characters in Innistrad garb. Doesn't solve the main problem of mechanically unique cards sold directly to us outside of a set, but I'd feel better about bringing Negan to a commander table for his mechanics.
@berndb3141
@berndb3141 3 года назад
Same. I didn't like Godzilla either. Keep Magic Magic!
@krvys7226
@krvys7226 3 года назад
"SUNDAY, SUNDAY, SUNDAY, GET READY FOR PYRE IN THE SHIRE, AS WE SEE THE DARK LORD OF MORDOR FACE THE ROHAN RIDER! SUNDAY, SUNDAY, SUNDAY!"
@gamefreak3072
@gamefreak3072 3 года назад
@@berndb3141 I didn't mind it as much, I liked that it was an optional skin. While it did, kind of officialize an aspect of the secondary market. That being alters in general as opposed to just alternate magic art. I didn't mind it because a lot of people in my play group already had Godzilla alters and star wars alters, but they were mechanically the same.
@davidwilson6717
@davidwilson6717 3 года назад
Absolutely first-rate thoughts. Outstanding in every way. Thank you. I'm so sorry for your loss. And mine.
@kuldahar44
@kuldahar44 3 года назад
"Expect wizards of the coast to put a band aid on this" - they have already put a 'damage control' video out already. Pretty much also confirming all of what Prof predicted. There will be more.
@KristianTKenwood
@KristianTKenwood 3 года назад
a new format where only these pop culture references are legal, called "post modern"
@elliottreadings8029
@elliottreadings8029 3 года назад
Ha, post mortem.
@guisseppimelon8224
@guisseppimelon8224 3 года назад
It speaks volumes that before the cards themselves were revealed, no one cared that there was a WLD secret lair. But now almost everyone is mad at them for this. I told my brother who doesn’t play mtg anymore and he still got pissed and said the rc should ban them right away.
@brandonvoice8941
@brandonvoice8941 3 года назад
Actually, Prof himself said he hated it immediately.
@harrison1735
@harrison1735 3 года назад
They previewed the zombie token when it was announced and people immediately were turned off by the uncanny art style which the final cards certainly live up to.
@confettius
@confettius 3 года назад
As Professor said - the problem aren't even cards themselves, the problem is that they're mechanicaly unique black border cards avaible only for 1 week and without reprint option other then Godzilla-style alts...
@forechunkukee
@forechunkukee 3 года назад
If im ever at a table where someone announces TWD as their commander, I'm going all in on them alone and letting Eldrazi run rampant.
@anthonykoenig8901
@anthonykoenig8901 3 года назад
Lol I am going to flip the table on anyone that even plays one of the idiotic cards... ...flip it on top of their head.
@adamplentl5588
@adamplentl5588 3 года назад
Yeah Im not playing in any environment where I have to look at those pieces of shit.
@salmonmankingoftheocean7624
@salmonmankingoftheocean7624 3 года назад
I don’t see the problem with people playing these cards. Sure, the fact that they exist as unbordered cards is a problem, but if someone just wants to play with their favourite characters as commanders, let them. I mean, I get that people buying them only makes Wizards more likely to do this again, but let people have their fun. Don’t blame them for something Wizards did.
@adamplentl5588
@adamplentl5588 3 года назад
@@salmonmankingoftheocean7624 thats fine but not at my table.
@SirNarax
@SirNarax 3 года назад
My Eldrazi will gladly join you and run rampant.
@endersblade
@endersblade 3 года назад
What I would really like to see is a set, probably like Secret Lair or similar, small products, that contains much needed commanders for tribes or deck styles that we are lacking. The cards would have the same restrictions as normal CMD cards, but we wouldn't have to wait for the yearly (or now bi-yearly or more...) CMD decks to release, or hope they make good Legendaries in the most recent set, to get a new set of commanders to play with. But a small set dedicated to CMD specific cards, allowing for some CMD releated mechanics to be printed on them, would be amazing.
@Cybershroom
@Cybershroom 3 года назад
Can't wait to play my EDH Session with my favorite commander, John Cena in the new Secret Lairs: WWE legends.
@youricklevine4908
@youricklevine4908 3 года назад
XD
@pnic193
@pnic193 3 года назад
stop you'll give them ideas
@steventinker3958
@steventinker3958 3 года назад
Tap, say "You can't see me!": John Cena phases out until end of turn.
@hart7668
@hart7668 3 года назад
Randy Savage, Macho Man
@bryanlariviere5702
@bryanlariviere5702 3 года назад
Undertaker Brock Lesnar, the Streakbreaker
@bananajoe275
@bananajoe275 3 года назад
This was the most serious intro ever, sadly this topic deserves it.
@MrUtsa24
@MrUtsa24 3 года назад
I felt that. Magic saved my life too. I was in a really bad place and a friend of mine urged me to give a shot. So thankful.
@saladtop8499
@saladtop8499 3 года назад
I started when I was at a summer camp, when I was ten years old and I met some of the best people I know. I never saw them again but I will always remember them
@nickb8208
@nickb8208 3 года назад
You dont "need" the cards, ever. MTG isnt aimed at children, its aimed at everyone. If you like them, wanna use em, or resell them, then get it. Otherwise who cares. Wizards needs to do better at selling their products to everyone. Other then that, there is nothing wrong with this product. I disagree with just about every one of your points outside of that.
@MrUtsa24
@MrUtsa24 3 года назад
@@nickb8208 wtf you talking about? Lol
@omegaanimations8549
@omegaanimations8549 3 года назад
I don’t play Magic but I got an ad for this product in my Instagram timeline and saw the outrage in the comments about the product and it led me to this video. Now I’m curious about getting into Magic
@sarahmiller4980
@sarahmiller4980 3 года назад
I hear you, Prof. Thank you for this extra information and interpretation -- I feel like I get it now. I also want you not to lose hope, just like I don't want to lose hope. One important thing about Magic is that it takes a lot of time to learn it. A LOT of time. If you leave Magic and then get into it again, it takes much less time to learn. I think it's cool that you're directing Magic players to other games. When players switch, this will send a message to Wizards that they need to listen to their customers, and then the players that switched can come back. Guess what? Supply and demand works both ways. If there are fewer customers, then prices won't be as high and the day will come where Wizards is supplying only one copy of a certain card, EVER, for lower than they want. Can't decrease supply? Guess you have to increase demand! We have to make sure we keep the spark of Magic alive until that happens and then come flooding back in when the time is right. Keep your head up, Brian. We need you. We love you. And the Magic community is alive in your heart and in ours.
@Kritya
@Kritya 3 года назад
"Buy-a-Box promos won't be standard staples." "Secret lair cards won't be Eternal staples." Sure.
@harrison1735
@harrison1735 3 года назад
I can believe WotC doesn’t intend any of these cards to become staples. But Nexus of Fate shows that I can’t trust them to not screw it up regardless of intent. They’re better off avoiding this space entirely.
@tinyhawk6427
@tinyhawk6427 3 года назад
Harrison their play testing” process might need some reevaluating
@shawndiaz7528
@shawndiaz7528 3 года назад
At least BaB promos are printed in very large quantities (more than any Mythic in the set but less than every rare in the set). Secret Lairs have extremely limited print runs only available directly in some parts of the world...
@seankuhn6633
@seankuhn6633 3 года назад
Mtg wont die
@jakx2ob
@jakx2ob 3 года назад
@@harrison1735 I can't believe that they didn't see that nexus would become a standard playable. Sure it's hard to predict whether a card like this will become a staple but it's clearly pushed enough that people would at least consider it. But I think they didn't foresee the availability problem printing a strong card as a Bob promo would cause. They printed enough copies of the card, most copies just didn't make it to the secondary market in the US.
@einstein951
@einstein951 3 года назад
I live in NZ. The Secret Lair I bought (Can You Feel With a Heart of Steel) finally got shipped today. I bought it June 3rd.
@irwanfaizal9558
@irwanfaizal9558 3 года назад
Holy moly, really? That's awful :(
@arkham9784
@arkham9784 3 года назад
Im from Argentina, i didnt even try lol
@BloeingBlog
@BloeingBlog 3 года назад
Arkham I'm from Brazil and we CAN'T try to buy... They just don't ship to Brazill
@kylewynne7930
@kylewynne7930 3 года назад
I love in the US. I ordered my Stargazing Secret Lair in February, and didn't receive it until July.
@humpulaj
@humpulaj 3 года назад
I'm in the US, and my Mountain, GO lair also just shipped.
@andykehoe4339
@andykehoe4339 3 года назад
"You remember Draft?' Ya, I remember Draft. I remember I could stand up, go to my LGS, buy $12-$15 dollars on packs and then spend a day playing Magic with 7 of my friends. I remember when I could play an amazingly fun day of Magic for less than $20... I remember I could buy a powerful deck for less than $50, even a Commander deck or a fairly decent Standard deck or whatever. I remember when I could properly afford to buy a good deck more than once a year... Or afford anything other than a Pauper deck for less than $50 (and that's even pushing it now apparently...)
@Russian_engineer_bmstu
@Russian_engineer_bmstu 2 года назад
Squirrel deck:200 bucks at least. Yeee. T2-3 wins after half an hour turn. THEY LITERALLY PRINTED BANNED CARD FUCKERS
@nameisbad
@nameisbad 3 года назад
I called this a year ago and quit, but I am still so sad for you fans that it came to become a reality. My heart goes out to all of you.
@daybreak817
@daybreak817 3 года назад
I don't like it when the Prof sounds this distraught, it's upsetting.
@LordMajicus
@LordMajicus 3 года назад
"Sheldon, from the Big Bang Theory" *shows Leonard* Not even attempting to hide your disdain for the show lol.
@Edricama
@Edricama 3 года назад
Basplingo!
@RM_3D
@RM_3D 3 года назад
Big Bang Theros
@WHEREAMIHELP1
@WHEREAMIHELP1 3 года назад
Bazongles!
@OldGodsGames
@OldGodsGames 3 года назад
Given that it's a twelve season joke at the expense of nerdkind, not surprised. It's also just shit XD
@codyvisger8793
@codyvisger8793 3 года назад
Hey brian my name is cody and i just wanted to say thank u for everything u do. U said at the end of this video that magic the gathering saved ur life.... that hit home... hard. when u first hear it it sounds goofy but like u magic saved my life also, Ive struggled my whole life with addiction. i played when i was younger but just recently got back into it.... and by got back into it i mean hard. New to recovery i picked it up and have not been able to put it down my addictive personality really shows in my collection lol but anyway thank u for everything sir im coming up on 3 yrs sober and i truly believe that magic has been my main tool in my recovery besides all the other therapy stuff, magic and videos like this help me go to another place that i use to once use drugs for. So thank u for the inspiration thanks
@chartypeplays2396
@chartypeplays2396 3 года назад
This is some really refreshing logic and realism. It's nice to see you, a popular MtG RU-vidr, acknowledging WotC's terrible track record in regards to keeping their promises and making format staples accessible.
@FreshmakerLP
@FreshmakerLP 3 года назад
Why does wotc go back on all their promises except the one about the reserved list? Where's the promissory estoppel crowd threatening to sue over this blunder?
@poluicionador
@poluicionador 3 года назад
It only takes one guy to take the value of cardboard rectangles to court.
@zztzgza
@zztzgza 3 года назад
Because they're a company and they have a product that they can use to get people to buy it to increase their profit margin. Promises don't matter unless they're profitable.
@fernandobanda5734
@fernandobanda5734 3 года назад
I don't think they promised not to do mechanically unique cards on Secret Lairs.
@brettjacobson4600
@brettjacobson4600 3 года назад
As long as people keep buying everything, they will keep making this stuff.
@Stroggoii
@Stroggoii 3 года назад
@@fernandobanda5734 They declared they wouldn't, and that's pretty much the same weight as the reserved list. There's no promissory estoppel, there is no signed contract, it's just words in a blog.
@Drewbe821
@Drewbe821 3 года назад
I heard from Mitch, I was waiting on the Professor's statement. United front, as I expected from two of the most critical, and vigilant minds.👍
@VulcanGray
@VulcanGray 3 года назад
Good to see a fellow Wayfarer's Bauble in the wild
@syntaxerror2409
@syntaxerror2409 3 года назад
@@VulcanGray ayyeee Wayfarer's Bauble gang
@BloeingBlog
@BloeingBlog 3 года назад
I'm expecting the command zone hosts to say that is the best thing Wizards ever did, and they're eager to buy it
@LeesusFreak
@LeesusFreak 3 года назад
Dunno I'd use any argument from Mitch "Planeswalkers as commanders killed my parents and if you run one I'll solo you and try to bribe the whole table to do the same" as a support for a cause, but you're allowed to like what you like.
@TshirtsbydavidAu
@TshirtsbydavidAu 3 года назад
Thanks for a well put together Video, all of your points are well formed and make sense, Keep up the good work, I wish the RC had your common sense with this issue. Not against the concept in Silver border or SL as a reprint with TWD art. I have just watched but now subscribed.
@DoomkaliburCruiser
@DoomkaliburCruiser 3 года назад
Hey Prof, long time lurker of your videos, first time commenting. You absolutely nailed the issues with this product. I am just astounded that they didn't simply produce these cards as silver border right from the off. They have done that with every other IP except for the godzilla series cards, which as you have stated, weren't a concern because it was just an altered game piece, perfectly available to everyone who requires the card itself to play the game. These secret lairs also are taking away from the LGS, which in this pandemic are still greatly suffering, and some unfortunately collapsing entirely. Thankfully I'm from a relatively small city, where our communities have realized what is occurring, and have been doing our best to support our LGS's as much as possible in order to continue having a space to play. I feel strongly that with this secret lair, as well as other sketchy decisions being made (most likely by) corporate WotC, that they are caring less and less about players in their games. I also feel that if indeed they don't care about the LGS anymore, and were in fact interested in pursuing the Esports arena (using Arena...) are these secret lairs likely to be involving a download code to unlock these pieces in Arena for future commander or other eternal formats that may end up being included eventually? This is an absolute point of no return. There is no recovery for WotC if this behaviour continues, and I believe that it will result in the massive reduction of the amount of people who are interested in continuing to play this game that we know and love.
@Ramperdos
@Ramperdos 3 года назад
0:11 The Professor is Walking towards the camera with a Dead stare. Limited black bordered cross-over cards is a big no-go. I don't even like the art of these cards, looks like a photograph of the actual actors more than fantasy art.
@TitaniumKitty
@TitaniumKitty 3 года назад
I am pretty sure it is, I can see how they probably actually got someone to do a digital painting of them, but it just looks like someone smacked posterize on a picture and called it a day.
@carlosdias854
@carlosdias854 3 года назад
it almost feels like a bad green screen photoshop.
@SiymPai
@SiymPai 3 года назад
I totally agree. I don't dislike the digital art we get in mtg now but I get tired of it. I need more paint brush.
@imperialtutor8687
@imperialtutor8687 3 года назад
overpriced crap made for low production cost.
@Takermania70
@Takermania70 3 года назад
I find it hilarious that when Prof referenced Sheldon from Big Bang, he showed the wrong character. Part of me hopes it was intentional
@vic5221
@vic5221 3 года назад
It was. He was pointing at the professor too like "look at this guy"
@michaelsarzynski7876
@michaelsarzynski7876 3 года назад
He also hasn’t watched TWD; pronounced Nee-gan as Neg-an
@thebrewler2119
@thebrewler2119 3 года назад
Hey professor! Great video, just to add, Brazil is out of Secret Lair delivery but when south america has aGP it's here, we do have GP as you well know, and we do have command zone but WE DON'T receive secret lair that was made to COMMANDER PLAYERS. Many legacy players are upset and afraid to the next tier god list use 4 of secret lair avengers cards.
@mariahanover9335
@mariahanover9335 3 года назад
It starts with frozen, frozen justifies minions, minions justifies rick and morty, rick and morty justifies family guy, family guy justifies paper magic disappearing
@Finn-Warrior
@Finn-Warrior 3 года назад
I hate to see the Professor sad. WotC, stop making the Professor sad...
@em3sis
@em3sis 3 года назад
The melodrama is nauseating.
@nicholaseikelberry8009
@nicholaseikelberry8009 3 года назад
He sounded sooooo defeated at the end....
@GoodRogue
@GoodRogue 3 года назад
I died to "frozen3" in the tags. This might be the only humorous thing about this whole affair.
@DocumentariesByElliot
@DocumentariesByElliot 3 года назад
I don't get it?
@michaelmcdonald2005
@michaelmcdonald2005 3 года назад
@@DocumentariesByElliot If you watched the video, you would.
@TransformersTalkRAW
@TransformersTalkRAW 3 года назад
Excellent points sir. Much love Prof. Youre doing a wonderful job covering our game bud. Please keep it up and keep your head up sir.
@markjelfo2492
@markjelfo2492 3 года назад
I won’t play against someone using these cards. WotC has officially jumped the shark.
@adamplentl5588
@adamplentl5588 3 года назад
Same. Ill scoop on the spot if I see one.
@ProPretendNinja
@ProPretendNinja 3 года назад
@@adamplentl5588 Sweet one player down
@adamplentl5588
@adamplentl5588 3 года назад
@@ProPretendNinja Fine with that. Enjoy having no one at your tables.
@JoeyjojoShabadoo7
@JoeyjojoShabadoo7 3 года назад
Me either
@mathunit1
@mathunit1 3 года назад
@@adamplentl5588 Asshole
@ppellacani
@ppellacani 3 года назад
Players: Please revoke the reserved list, we need reprints of eternal formats' staples! WotC: What? Print new reserved list cards? OK, you asked for it!
@jallen3775
@jallen3775 3 года назад
This reminds me of a video on QUEST FOR THE JANKLORD's channel. The Teletubby Black Lotus secret lair drop. I Laughed then because I thought it wouldn't get that far, now I'm not laughing.
@eliluttrell7637
@eliluttrell7637 3 года назад
True. So very sad but true
@Daviswilder1
@Daviswilder1 3 года назад
Love your videos dude!
@dmcdante8845
@dmcdante8845 3 года назад
0:52. Interesting. For me and this is me back in high school. My card game that changed not only my life. But what helped me being myself, inspiring others to do the same. And what made me friends that I bonded with to this day. For me, it was "Yu-Gi-Oh!". I know the community are different from card games. But I always enjoyed games of all types. Even Magic the Gathering. This is relatable and understanding. I paused to share my card game that not only did save me. But what inspired my high school. Making friends. And honestly, expressing my hard, sad, dark and happy moments and times. Thank you for sharing. Not sure how Magic the Gathering saved you. If you ever did made a video or plan to, I'd watch. Thank you for sharing that. Now, resuming the video.
@poste06
@poste06 3 года назад
Wizards already has the perfect setup for next year: Kaldheim - Vikings tie-in Strixhaven - Harry Potter tie-in Innistrad Vampires/Werewolves - Twilight
@nathanfriedman7367
@nathanfriedman7367 3 года назад
Agree on everything but Kaldheim
@ZakanaHachihaCBC
@ZakanaHachihaCBC 3 года назад
Nathan Friedman Id want HTTYD if they had a crossover. For Stryxhaven, either Harry Potter or Tje Magicians. I’m doubtful on The Magicians because, it’s an adult series/trilogy but one of my favorite book series. But please god no not twilight.
@JamesWanders
@JamesWanders 3 года назад
@@nathanfriedman7367 Hmm... bunch of men in a bitter northern climate fighting arcane and magical enemies with dragons and Snow. No, I can't think of any franchise that would tie in with...
@joebobby8371
@joebobby8371 3 года назад
@@JamesWanders clearly beetleborgs
@mtgcalix8977
@mtgcalix8977 3 года назад
@@ZakanaHachihaCBC magicians Was so nice
@MetalCoreHog131
@MetalCoreHog131 3 года назад
I wonder if they got inspired by those POPs! Toys and were like “we can do this for Magic...” . I can’t wait for Pickle Rick + Baby Yoda Combo to dominate the format
@bbqseitan7106
@bbqseitan7106 3 года назад
Szechuan Sauce into Baby Yoda to combo off from Daryl and Lol Get Stickbigged
@mtgcalix8977
@mtgcalix8977 3 года назад
Its not Baby Yoda its the child
@ronburgendy179
@ronburgendy179 3 года назад
it is and will forever be baby yoda, regardless of whether or not it is actually baby yoda
@nothing3376
@nothing3376 3 года назад
The thing is i have no problem if wizards made a separate game with these types of themes... but why do this
@mtgcalix8977
@mtgcalix8977 3 года назад
@@ronburgendy179 then youre lost
@javierfernandez7879
@javierfernandez7879 3 года назад
Thank you Prof!! until now, u are the only streamer that mentioned the people living outside US! thank u for thinking of us. I feel so bad for the "secret lair" products because for me are so unreachable, I love MTG, and I use to spend a lot of money on cards... but I cannot afford the taxes and the delivery of that kind of product.
@vincentperon2950
@vincentperon2950 3 года назад
I freakin love star wars and magic, but I wouldn't like them to be mashed together because it ruins consistency. That being said, in a dedicated goofy magic format like unstable, I'd like to see these crossovers, because it would be hilariously over the top.
@FailOwlProductions
@FailOwlProductions 3 года назад
When first getting into Magic several years ago, I talked to friends who said that they "used to play" or "sold all their cards, because it wasn't fun anymore." It had confused me at that point, because I looked at this incredibly complex game with awe and wonder, and was always trying to get my friends to sit down for a game. After this announcement, as well as the standard banning, I know now. Even if you own the greatest card game in the world, money will always take precedence over the player base.
@michaelvaldez5153
@michaelvaldez5153 3 года назад
But that should also show you how the game evolves. It’s a living breathing entity. League and halo and monster hunter and fallout and Pokémon and yugioh and everything changes over time. Who wants to play the exact same game for 30 years? I don’t agree with this move but people leaving the game is expected because it has to become something else to retain most people.
@del132
@del132 3 года назад
@@michaelvaldez5153 If a franchise crossover, limited time money-grab is what MtG has become than it's a pretty grotesque evolution and there are far less predatory games to play. I'd love to say that most people are capable of seeing this and moving to something more healthy and enriching, but my faith in humanity has been eroded so much over the last few years that it's pretty plain to see most people are dumb enough to just gobble this up and ask for more.
@em3sis
@em3sis 3 года назад
@@del132 as a consumer base grows bigger, the less it's going to be able to please everyone. Also, the more resources a company has, the more they can do. There is a balance of course, and wotc is pushing the envelope. I don't agree with the exclusivity, so I won't be purchasing. The problem with the MTG community is they are incapable of self-discipline and suppressing FOMO. They exploit themselves.
@salmonella7993
@salmonella7993 3 года назад
@@em3sis Ah yes blaming the community again in favor of big business. I need not waste my time pointing out real life social economic examples of how horrid this stance is and how many people its harmed or killed outside of a flippity floppity fantasy children's card game.
@tuongpham7609
@tuongpham7609 3 года назад
@@salmonella7993 I dont think he's blaming the community. He just wants the community to be responsible for it's action. Sure a business can make exclusive premium cards, but as a community, we must be responsible and not buy it. Not give into it. That's why the commander community is putting it's feet down and (hopefully) banning these WD cards. To show wizards that we are responsible and wont eat the garbage they give us. Being responsible isnt the same as being blamed. Just like health, we dont blame for you being fat, but we want you to know that you are responsible for you're weight.
@smittynumber1812
@smittynumber1812 3 года назад
The second one of those Minions gets printed on a card I'm selling my entire collection
@jasonbolding3481
@jasonbolding3481 3 года назад
On the plus sides you can kill minions over and over again. And MTG cards have a fun interaction with fire
@Venjamin
@Venjamin 3 года назад
I'm pretty tempted to ditch my high value cards now. Hold on to one or two half-decent commander decks for random get togethers, and then just... idk. Be done with it. Buy singles on the secondary market sometimes.
@theonetruedoge6375
@theonetruedoge6375 3 года назад
Minions as goblin reskins
@threatlevelzero
@threatlevelzero 3 года назад
On its surface it might seem like a cash grab but for though, it would actually be a very smart long-term move for WOTC to do something (non secret lair related) with Minions. It taps into an entirely new generation of young people who, because their parents don’t play, might otherwise never get into MTG.
@kalkohl2151
@kalkohl2151 3 года назад
please god let this be irony
@janmichaelong
@janmichaelong 3 года назад
We can do Dora the Explorer Secret Lair and Los Angeles Lakers Secret Lair.
@Semmelein
@Semmelein 3 года назад
Thanks Professor for making this video. Guess it's all downhill from now on. Well. Fingers are still crossed! 🤞
@matthewcolyer6797
@matthewcolyer6797 3 года назад
"Just change the borders from black to silver." please
@trevorknight3904
@trevorknight3904 3 года назад
I remember you discussing with Blake why secret lairs weren't being sold or ordered through game stores. The answer boiled down to "it would take months" for customers to order them, stores to place the orders, cards printed to the demand and then shipped. It's now taking months for WotC to print to demand all of the secret lairs that they offer directly. I would like to see a video on that hypocrisy.
@harrison1735
@harrison1735 3 года назад
Honestly for the amount of paperwork it would create for LGS’s relative to the likely very tiny margins they’d get off it I could see stores not even wanting to take part.
@2MeatyOwlLegs
@2MeatyOwlLegs 3 года назад
That video would take 24 hours. They contradict themselves so often I stopped counting.
@guybrushthreepwood8174
@guybrushthreepwood8174 3 года назад
Haha, yeah, that is total bs. They won't come out and say "screw the LGS's" but if you pay attention to their actual ACTIONS, they are absolutely saying "screw the LGSs".
@jiffyb333
@jiffyb333 3 года назад
It is a very dangerous precedent, truly terrifying especially after that promise was broken. Thank you for laying it out so clearly as well as the deeper and more Sinister implications.
@frankzetank6160
@frankzetank6160 3 года назад
Opening words was a strong message and I completely agree. Shouldn't be put down because theres concern and care about this awesome game. Also best dressed prof!
@alexdiotto
@alexdiotto 3 года назад
Prof: abolish the reserved list! Wotc: *prints cards directly into the reserved list*
@bbqseitan7106
@bbqseitan7106 3 года назад
A fate worse than death
@jonklaus1466
@jonklaus1466 3 года назад
They already said they would reprint the cards with different names already.
@MartreusMarques
@MartreusMarques 3 года назад
@@jonklaus1466 "While these cards were designed with casual formats and Commander in mind, it's possible in the future that we could reprint a Magic-style version of these cards or ones functionally similar." twitter.com/MTGSecretLair/status/1310600790491373569 The word here is "could". Will they?
@florg69
@florg69 3 года назад
They said that they might not that they would
@JonaxII
@JonaxII 3 года назад
@@jonklaus1466 reprint with a different name is not a reprint. It's another card. This is super relevant for formats like legacy or cedh where you want to run optimal decks, and if one of these cards is good, then you don't just play one copy/playset if there is a functionally identical copy that allows you to play another copy/playset. So you end up needing the "normal" reprint and also the super rare SL card.
@Senumunu
@Senumunu 3 года назад
"i turned myself into a magic card Morty. im a magic pickle!"
@jamesdavis3818
@jamesdavis3818 3 года назад
Lol, I think he would more likely say, ..."Im a magic Card!""
@ApeSkit01
@ApeSkit01 3 года назад
I'm double sleeved Rick!
@agiledrunk737
@agiledrunk737 3 года назад
Prof, would you make another video on cube as a format? -Its proxy welcome -Its as cheap or expensive as you want -There's no recurring cost like retail limited -you're not at the mercy of official restrictions or the edh rc You've made some really useful videos in the past about what the format is and how to get started, but a follow up video to promote the format would be incredible. Especially with people looking at buying commander legends. They should know that they can build a wicked commander cube to play with friends that has massive replay ability!
@Organous
@Organous 3 года назад
All the business stuff behind this is 100% solid. I'll push back on the crossover stuff, though. I think it's fine to have lots of different licenses come in. Remember, the original design intent of this was a "deckmaster" system, where cards from theoretically different games would all work together, except oops, having anything different on the card back kind of breaks things a little bit. Having lots of different licenses looks to me like what Yu-Gi-Oh is, or at least how it started, at face value. You get Little Red Riding Hood mixed with Gradius mixed with cartoons and so on. This is actually a thing I really like about Heroclix (yes I basically have to bring that up with my comments every time), where the system is shared between licenses. I can run a team with Green Lantern Jon Stewart, Slate from Bioshock Infinite, and a bunch of Foot Soldiers (actually one of my favorite teams), or have mystical pieces from Yu-Gi-Oh, Marvel, DC, and TMNT all together. I can have a team of cosmic gods that reaches into Star Trek, and so on. My Little Pony absolutely would fit in with Magic: the Gathering just like Walking Dead could. Get some Transformers in my deck vs. Eldrazi in yours. I can absolutely see fitting some Star Wars space wizards in here, as if wizards need any help. Yes, it's good to have lots of original content and stories, but I also feel good when I can play with stuff I care about from other sources. Granted... I don't actually play Magic anymore, I just keep up with what's going on, and I'm always down with lots of licenses within the same game system. The business stuff behind this is absolutely bogus, of course. No argument there whatsoever.
@ZeepDr
@ZeepDr 3 года назад
It's called an abusive relationship.
@keithcodyb
@keithcodyb 3 года назад
As Rick once said "We are the Walking Dead." If MTG continues down this path, there is no return. The game as we know it will die. The shambling corpse of our favorite game will remain to feed off other franchises.
@draftmagicagain1000
@draftmagicagain1000 3 года назад
We have already seen the deadly one two punch of FIRE design (starting w/ Guilds Ravnica) making Standard unplayable and an Insane amount of new/specialty products that is impossible to keep up with. Now this...... 😢
@iPharaoh54
@iPharaoh54 3 года назад
I pay 6 mana to bring out Broly, Legendary Super Saiyan from the commander Zone. I mutate Megazord Tank mode to bring out Megazord Battle Mode and mutate to bring out UltraZord. I pay 3 mana and exile 3 cards from graveyard to Escape Goku Super Saiyan 3. Now for combat and i tap Morty, Ultrazord, Broly and Roman Reigns and deal 25 damage
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