Code rsc, mt 5, mt 7, or saint is not good enough for your riding, maybe you should attempt downhill worlcup withBrembo motocross brakes. Why not waste money to Diretissima?
MT5 here. Zero maintenance for the year and a half since I bought them. Haven't blead them yet, only changed pads. I've changed the stock one-piece brown pads though, running 4-piece Galfer now.
I do agree with you! I have the sram rsc, the new sram mave, and shimano xtr. I just got the shimano saint. I love the sram and the shimano brakes. I love the rsc, the maven and the xtr and you can’t go wrong with shimano. Thanks for the review.
Hi Oreste, as you said, probably the guys at Radon did not perform a good bleed before selling the bike. In my opinion, it is impossible a new brake behaves like that. By the way, I also have Saint and I feel very confident with them. The only disadvantage is that the brake is not consistent during the descent. I think this can be fixed with a good bleed too. By consistency, I mean that the level should have the bite point always at the same point during the entire descent. What happens is that the level starts to move far from the grip during the descent. With SRAM code RSC I never had this issue. Unfortunately, they did not provide enough power for my weight. I think SRAM code RSC are still the best brakes ever made.
Very good points, in general i didn't experienced this issue you had on the descents with my Saint, and so far i had the best experience with them between all the ones i tested 😁😁
Unlike DOT, mineral oil can be used interchangeably. Magura will void your warranty tho. Yes, the boiling point is slighty different, but it is unlikeley to reach that temperature anyway. I use a 3rd party mineral oil in my brakes and never failed me so far. Any mineral oil brake lever is theoretically compatible with any mineral oil caliper, but the volume of fluid moved might be different. If you want a more "on-off" feel, look for a lever with a bigger volume and/or a ramp (like shimano mt501 -> xtr). If you want a longer throw, look for longer lever and/or lower lever piston volume. Consider changing the material of the brakepads, there are 4 main marterials you can choose from: resin, semimetalic, ceramic and metalic. They drasticly change the brake feel. The same with de diameter of the rotor. Tyres: the brake component few talk about. If you skid with front tyre on grippy terrain, you don't have powerful brakes, you have bad tyres. Hope it helps, happy trails 🤙🏻
Absolute opposite. Dot (department of transport) has to be exactly the same regardless of brand. Because it’s made for cars etc on the road the chemical makeup is specific and must be adhered too. Mineral oil is the one that changes slightly brand to brand, each company tailors it to the seals they use.
@@mihaichiriac480 3 4 and 5 are glycol ether based and are absolutely compatible. If you mix 3 and 5.1 you’re not going to get the same high boil temp but any brake made for any dot will take 5.1.
Just curious Are those trails all based in /near vienna? some look familiar to me but i dont know where exactly also where is the trail in the coniferous forest?
Seems like factory bleed was not good. Probably some air in the system in the calipers that surfaced to the lever body with the pressure enacted from your ride. Do a lever bleed to check for bubbles. If no air bubbles, trash them! Brakes are such an important component to riding, and if the brakes are not reliable, it's a big safety issue. Which is weird, because historically I've had consistency issues with Shimano...maybe the Saints are better from the rest of the Shimano line???
I fully agree Phil, I didn't have at that time the Magura oil for a bleeding, but in my mind the decision was made also due to the issues I had with the MT5. I never had problems with the Saint, they are working relentlessly since 2 years 💯
The MT7 brakes were not properly bled from what i could see. If they bleed them like the shimano brakes, then there is the problem. You can't bleed them the same.
Probably, but anyway if the bleeding was not correct...why was it working good at the beginning? In general, especially for the brakes, I don't like this kind of dubious reliability 😁
@OresteCiotoli many people still install poorly with bad connections that allow air to get in the system. It's hard to tell without seeing it. I took mine to the magura dealer, and that was the ticket to working brakes and just so so brakes. 🙃
I agree, but due to my past issues I just decided to go for a more reliable brake. A lot of people are happy, but also a lot aren't so. I'm totally satisfied of my saint honestly
Good Video! I have replaced my Magura MT5 and the rotors HC Storm. In the beginning I was impressed with the brakes, but too much squeaking and overheating rotors after short drive. That was the reason to replace them with the Shimano XT Deore brakes and Shimano rotors.
Shimano levers with magura calipers if you are an avid rider. I use entry level mt200 and work great on my 30kgs ebike 😄. Too strong brakes actually hurt your performance if you ride like me, on pavement most of the time.
Great video Oreste, it's always difficult to decide which brake suits you best. I am curious if you will stay with magura or go back to Shimano. Have a good evening and ride on buddy🤙
For me it was very straightforward, I know what i need and it was clear from the first ride that the MT7 were far away from what i was looking for; that's why i didn't sold my Saint! Thanks a lot Christoph and have you too a nice evening!
Nice review. I've never owned Magura brakes, but I'm considering getting the Magura MT8 SL Carbon brakes for my XC bike, mainly because they're lighter. But they are very expensive...
this is exactly what you expect from brand new brake, this comparison is unfair to either brake - one is brand new and the other well maintained and ran
well not really: first, the Saint brand new never had this problem from the beginning, and secondly the MT7 was working good at the beginning and i felt immediately the difference with the Saint. Even with a properly MT7 bleeded, i know exactly what would have been my preference, and it's a shame because the modulation of the MT7 is outstanding
Still no sane rider would choose Magura over Shimano. Ed1: Even tough I recently bought TRP Slate, because it was the cheapest 4 piston brakes with lever reach adjustment I could find on the market. I did exatcly 0 km with them, so at the moment they are eqaully good and bad, like Schrödinger's cat.
Ahahah good point 🤣, let me know then the feeling on that ones! Still there are a lot or riders with Magura brakes, bit as I always say is a matter of preference 😃
I am super happy with my MT5. WIth some small adjustements (different rotors and brake pads) the brake is super powerful and does not make any noises :)
I had issues in the past, mainly for the bleeding and reliability. Beside that, with proper rotors and pads, it's definitely a good brake 😃, but as I said the reliability is very important for me!
@@OresteCiotoli I've been riding for a year without problems and before that 2 years on another bike with MT5 without problems so far. But I totally agree, if the confidence is gone, you have to change it, especially with such a safety-relevant part as the brake
