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Majin Buu has not had a good time during Dragon Ball Super. What is Toei doing? Letting Buu rest for a while. Too long a while though. Let's discuss what Toei is trying to achieve with the Majin in this arc?
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@SSJ2Warrior
@SSJ2Warrior 7 лет назад
Majin Buu is the perfect representation of someone who uses Weight Watchers: 1. You will accept your ways. 2. You will exercise. 3. You will lose weight (Shit, didn't see that coming). 4. You will lose more weight. 5. You will become extremely fit. 6. You will get screwed over by Toei and will become fat again
@Cipher655
@Cipher655 7 лет назад
and be lazy, dumb and sleep for 2 months straight?
@thanos3784
@thanos3784 7 лет назад
Dragon Ball Community well played.
@r3d_toxin274
@r3d_toxin274 7 лет назад
Cipher655 yeah
@wiibrockster
@wiibrockster 7 лет назад
Dragon Ball Community Well Done! I mean that was Clever!
@Jestylor6
@Jestylor6 7 лет назад
Dragon Ball Community Seems about right...
@AussieDragoon
@AussieDragoon 7 лет назад
For the ultimate Bait and Switch, Goku goes to Hell to get Frieza, they fight, then Goku decides "You know, I don't want you on my team" So he goes to get Babidi instead to wake up Buu. No one would see it coming.
@LainK1978
@LainK1978 7 лет назад
Now that would be Marketing at work.
@RoboP
@RoboP 7 лет назад
You sir are a fucking genius.........if they did that OMG, that would blow people's minds, if they(Toei) remember Babidi lol. It would be a crazy long shot.
@JackOfen
@JackOfen 7 лет назад
Or he gets Babidi to mind control Cell (remember that Babidi's mind control increases the power of the one controlled, it's how Vegeta achieved Super Saiyan 2 after all.) Majin Cell could have a lot of potential.
@BlueDragonKnight77
@BlueDragonKnight77 7 лет назад
After doing all that marketing with Boo in the line up, I actually don't really believe that they are going to switch him out. That would be really odd, I mean, he's in the opening and all. Or are we getting a new one? Considering how long it took to get the second opening that just sounds unlikely... But hey, now I'm really interested in seeing how this turns out, well played tjere Toei
@joshuameasimer7708
@joshuameasimer7708 7 лет назад
All the shots of Buu in the opening could easily be replaced with you-know-who. Buu doesn't actually do anything in it anyways except show up in group shots.
@karishmo
@karishmo 7 лет назад
My theory is buu is diabetic from all the sugar and candy he eats and is now in a diabetic coma.
@Leon-mv1bn
@Leon-mv1bn 7 лет назад
Theory? That's actually the only reasonable answer
@Crash__Down
@Crash__Down 7 лет назад
karishmo Jesus Christ! I never thought about that!
@nskachuful
@nskachuful 7 лет назад
karishmo Wow yes that actually makes sense!
@jessica_swan
@jessica_swan 7 лет назад
karishmo that's actually brilliant
@GVGINU
@GVGINU 7 лет назад
It would be the only explanation seeing as Buu got fat again. Hell, he must have had a mighty feast of treats before he went all narcoleptic on everyone.
@supervegeta881
@supervegeta881 7 лет назад
Mr. Popo is probably pissed at Vegeta.
@gmann215
@gmann215 7 лет назад
Vegeta needs to remember the pecking order.
@The_GhostWind
@The_GhostWind 7 лет назад
Super Vegeta Over 9000 sixth rule of popo's training. Don't break popo's stuff
@phatman9762
@phatman9762 7 лет назад
Toei is giving us Bluu Balls.
@xdfeverdream8122
@xdfeverdream8122 7 лет назад
Phat Kid They aren't blueballing us. They are Buuballing us!
@r10marcx
@r10marcx 7 лет назад
X&D Fever Dream naaaaise 👏
@xdfeverdream8122
@xdfeverdream8122 7 лет назад
r10marcx That joke didn't take much effort, but still glad someone liked it. :)
@atlasgraham154
@atlasgraham154 7 лет назад
Just have Buu wake up. Seriously, nobody needs a real reason to keep Buu asleep. Hercule says he'll be out for two months? Oops, looks like he was wrong, Buu only needed a few hours.. BAM! Just solved the Buu asleep problem. No room for him now that Frieza's on the team? Just make Frieza reject Goku's offer! What does he get out of it, exactly? One tournament to save the universe then back to hell? If the universe goes boom. so does the afterlife. I think Frieza would rather let that happen than spend eternity being sang to and cuddled by Care Bears and Fairies. I'm pissed that Buu's going the Chi-Chi route. Frieza had the entire Namek ark, a movie, and a Super arc. We're tired of him, and the only thing I'm actually looking forward too is Frieza meeting Frost. Beyond that? I don't care. Let Buu have the limelight Toei, he fucking deserves it.
@naturalbiggie
@naturalbiggie 7 лет назад
k
@geoden1468
@geoden1468 7 лет назад
Well frieza was also promised to be brought back if they win
@sammcguire3798
@sammcguire3798 7 лет назад
Honestly, Toei just clearly forgot everything in the Buu saga, except Ultimate Gohan. They think that we'll be satisfied by Freeza and only Freeza, even though we've basically gotten rid of any possibilities with him. And seriously, WHY NOT CELL?? He clearly had way more potential and could probably stand up against nearly every member of the other universes. But I digress. I'm disappointed in the decision of Freeza as the 10th member, but mostly because of the hype around buu. If they had just full out said that Freeza was always gonna be on the Universe 7 team, I would have been fine with it. But especially after skinny buu and everything else that has happened with him, this is a huge let down. #WakeUpBuu
@briandiaz9213
@briandiaz9213 7 лет назад
Sam McGuire a couple of words "they don' t have a lot of time"
@sammcguire3798
@sammcguire3798 7 лет назад
One: That's 8 words ("Don't" is two words) Two: wat?
@_Matioh_
@_Matioh_ 7 лет назад
You're asking to the wrong person, why would Toei overwrite the script of Toriyama, even Toyotaro did know that before the spoilers
@AlastorD
@AlastorD 7 лет назад
Frieza is stronger than Cell right now. Cell doesnt even have one of the Androids absorbed. Besides that, he was willing to kill himself just so he can kill the Z-Fighters, he doesn't hang on Life as strong as Frieza.
@raymonddelgado2606
@raymonddelgado2606 7 лет назад
Sam McGuire frieza is a way better option hes easily the strongest compared to cell so get over it if he was brought back then that means he has a role to play in this tournament
@whichcache2517
@whichcache2517 7 лет назад
My dad's actually pretty hyped that Frieza's going to make a return. And to be honest, I agree with his sentiments. Sure, it would've been cool to see Majin Buu do more things, but it doesn't have a lot of potential to really do that much in terms of the story. Frieza on the other hand? Complete and total wildcard. We don't know what he's going to do, what he's going to accomplish, or what he's gonna think once he's in the tournament (Frost is also in the tournament, imagine what would happen there). So I don't really agree with you there, MasakoX. Yeah, it's a bit lazy to reuse a tired gag, but at least Majin Buu contributed to something this arc (he won the Exhibition Match, and he inadvertently helped reinforce that Goku could lose against weaker opponents if they have a strategy). I myself can't wait for what's going to happen next.
@Dymetreus
@Dymetreus 7 лет назад
Interestingly enough to even myself, I too wish to actually see Freeza, though I love Buu. This is some fan boying, but more importantly, I'm interested in seeing Freeza's story progress. I'm not sure how many people out there back when Goku gave Freeza some energy to let him live wanted this to happen, but I personally actually wanted him to change. Not go from good to bad necessarily, but a transition a bit like what happened to Vegeta after, over the course of many years. I want to know more about Freeza's race, it seems to be quite a bit like saiyans in the sense that they tend to be strong, and nearly extinct. They're so unique and different from one another, yet similar enough to see a trend. As Freeza made appearance after appearance, it would be a hell of a twist if he somehow caved into the idea that perhaps he needs to make a change in his life, even if it isn't going good. He's seen a lot in his life time, he's been the ruler of many planets, many races, yet somehow was defeated by someone completely unexpected. Surely after his several defeats, and time spent in hell, he has thought about the possibility that he's done /something/ wrong. Character building for Freeza, that's what I'm personally interested in, and maybe even the possibility for longevity, like what Vegeta achieved.
@Besaofficial12
@Besaofficial12 7 лет назад
Frieza is back because *In Masakos word* "MARKETING"
@SSJ2Warrior
@SSJ2Warrior 7 лет назад
MARKETING is the whole reason we are in this mess
@mihaimercenarul7467
@mihaimercenarul7467 7 лет назад
They could have brought anyone else back, Like Cell, Raditz (Yes I'm serious) If Caulifla can achieve ssj2 in 10 minutes through toei's bullshit, then Raditz can too.Or the best choice, stick up to Buu. But no, frieza is just a money making machine and we all know that for Toei the slogan is "Praise money, fuck the fans:. Frieza will even be worse than ever. Every comeback makes Frieza worse and worse than him on namek.
@codystork3008
@codystork3008 7 лет назад
Jeanette Rubio I prefer to think of Toriyama as that smart lazy guy he can do a really good job but occasionally he slacks off and screws up I wouldn't call him an imbecile per se but I see your point.
@SSJ2Warrior
@SSJ2Warrior 7 лет назад
+Jeanette Rubio, I'd love to see you run one of the most popular animes for over 30 years and not make any mistakes or plotholes
@TH-by9cc
@TH-by9cc 7 лет назад
Obviously! Also ,i've been thinking: why dont they just call me and saitama to get the job done with the others? I mean c'mon I'm stonger than half the team.
@Enntro
@Enntro 7 лет назад
While i am a bit sad that buu isnt part of the team, but im really excited for Frieza being part of the team, just imagine him meeting frost: Frieza: so this my counterpart from another universe and what are those did he also failed to kill few sayans? Goku: actually he was acting as a good, while being a bad one AND he actually didnt destroy the sayan home planet Frieza: Pathetic Also just imagining all the possible interactions he will bring to the team in the tournament, if Toei does this correctly, this tournament could be so damn awesome.
@digunder14
@digunder14 7 лет назад
Mr. Popo: "that's it, god kai or not, you're banned magget!" *sends vegeta flying back to capsle corp via a single bitch slap*
@wiibrockster
@wiibrockster 7 лет назад
digunder14 Hail Popo!!!!!
@Avatarbee
@Avatarbee 7 лет назад
6th rule of Popo's training!
@ROMANTIKILLER2
@ROMANTIKILLER2 7 лет назад
Honestly I think that the problem with Majin Buu is that he is too overpowered to be a good guy. How to write as a protagonist a character that 1. is basically immortal 2. can regenerate even after being turned into small pieces 3. can learn instantly other people's technique 4. can stretch and manipulate his body without limitation 5. can turn other people into candies and other objects 6. can absorb other fighters to increase his power and abilities and still maintain any kind of suspense and thrill? Buu worked well as an unstoppable chaotic evil force to reckon with, but I cannot see him as an effective main hero in terms of storytelling.
@MirIsAwesome
@MirIsAwesome 7 лет назад
same tbh but that's also why i was so hyped to see him in the tournament bc even though it's not very practical for a long term hero character it still woulda been cool af to see him give all the other universes the smack down at least just this once lol
@matiidesign
@matiidesign 7 лет назад
Simon D. Liebert also he can heal people completely, he is a walking infinite senzu bean dispenser
@zamorak6789
@zamorak6789 6 лет назад
I think the tournament of power is the only place where he would've worked since you can lose via a ring out. His infinite health and regeneration only matter if a killing blow is required. Because of this it means a suitably powerful or smart person could beat Buu via a ring out.
@superlombax1561
@superlombax1561 5 лет назад
carl carlson Yeah, but he did train for the Tournament of Power. So much so that he had gotten very fit, so his power must have increased a little bit from that. Not enough necessarily to touch Jiren, Toppo, or any of those guys, but still stronger than his Z iteration.
@yfullman
@yfullman 7 лет назад
Buu falling asleep should have been the result of sabotage by one of the rival Supreme Kais.
@sammydray5919
@sammydray5919 7 лет назад
yfullman Naahhh that would be way too smart a plot point for Toei 😡😡😡😠😠😠
@StefanoRapone
@StefanoRapone 7 лет назад
I think the best way would have been disqualifying him in advance for having absorbed his universe's Kaioshin in his body. Having a few gods in him should have been a reasonable point to not participate in the tournament.
@sammydray5919
@sammydray5919 7 лет назад
sunkensheep That would have made some real sense!!!!
@GDKsan
@GDKsan 7 лет назад
yeah what hapened to that plot point on the gods wanting to do something to universe 7?
@Yoseqlo1
@Yoseqlo1 7 лет назад
+Soupmaster101 Yeah, I have hope that Toyotaro will make a better explanation at the very least.
@strykon4721
@strykon4721 7 лет назад
I don't think it's all Toei's fault this time, if they wanted to do Marketing they would let Buu stay Fit and replace Roshi/Tien with Golden Frieza
@jimgreen4418
@jimgreen4418 7 лет назад
Shut your damn mouth, regarding Tien. You don't seem to realize, even though it's so obvious, the only reason why Tien got his ass handed to him by Roshi is because... Well it's either A: Tien's episode(s) were given to some complete dipshit. Or maybe it's B: His episode was given to a Krillin fanboy. Must most likely it's C: His episode was unfortionately given to a complete dipshit Krillin fanboy :(
@dylantaylor9952
@dylantaylor9952 7 лет назад
So he mentions Tien and you get triggered, And start acting like he stole your family heirloom
@xmoore5659
@xmoore5659 7 лет назад
Strykon I thought it was the fans.
@Noah_Whitaker
@Noah_Whitaker 7 лет назад
So Whis can birth a baby, but isn't going to try to awaken Buu?
@glucoseguardian7127
@glucoseguardian7127 7 лет назад
RedRacoon99 LOGIC
@AxelWedstar411
@AxelWedstar411 7 лет назад
Maybe Whis' magic doesn't work on beings older than him.
@DietDrBass
@DietDrBass 7 лет назад
But he isn't, Buu was created at the time of universe 7's creation.
@simbadas1234
@simbadas1234 7 лет назад
honestly, what would happen if someone just tried to beat the shit outta buu? i doubt he would continue to sleep, if the attacks are dealing damage due to the power level difference.
@jimgreen4418
@jimgreen4418 7 лет назад
Are you actually expecting Toei to even once use logic while writing Super?
@vvFREAKOUTvv
@vvFREAKOUTvv 7 лет назад
"He cycled between rampages and long hibernation." ...Could Buu been the or one of the first god's of destruction of universe 7. If i remember correctly beerus is still training as a god of destruction, which means that are other god's of destruction of universe 7 that has died or possibly surpassed.
@dynamickirby
@dynamickirby 7 лет назад
It's a shame. Buu could of been a real *sleeper* hit in this tournament.
@ChaddyFantome
@ChaddyFantome 7 лет назад
To be honest, Buu would probably have been broken in the tourney.
@SSJ2Warrior
@SSJ2Warrior 7 лет назад
Yeah he would have a SWEET time in the Tournament of Power
@lordtachanka7867
@lordtachanka7867 7 лет назад
Puns
@KidneyFailureGaming
@KidneyFailureGaming 7 лет назад
Before sleeping, he was a total *buufcake*
@MasterFhyl
@MasterFhyl 7 лет назад
yeah, but think of how much of a snooze-fest it would have been if they had super OP majin buy on their side
@MilesTheFoxy
@MilesTheFoxy 7 лет назад
Why don't they wake him up using the Dragon Balls? Wish for him to be well rested and wake him up, seems easy enough...
@morrisoneil3327
@morrisoneil3327 7 лет назад
They clearly won't use the namekian dragon balls because toei forgot that goku can use instant transmission
@Leon-mv1bn
@Leon-mv1bn 7 лет назад
Maybe Goku is saving his energy?
@Leon-mv1bn
@Leon-mv1bn 7 лет назад
Denam​ Well, that's not what I'm saying. It's simply saving energy for the tournament which he will need. It's just that simple. Besides Mr.Satan's home isn't that far from Bulma. It'll take him like one or two minutes to get there. Time and energy saved, easy.
@TiltCntrlz
@TiltCntrlz 7 лет назад
I'm pretty sure actually flying would use up more energy.
@Leon-mv1bn
@Leon-mv1bn 7 лет назад
Generico Garbagio Ehh, at this point. Not really
@mitikozuki5295
@mitikozuki5295 7 лет назад
I'm curious, would a Senzu Bean wake up Majin Buu? Think of it like this, Senzu Beans restores energy, and so does sleep. It is basically a walking rest pill. So would feeding a Senzu Bean to a sleeping Buu wake him up?
@_Matioh_
@_Matioh_ 7 лет назад
What it bothers me in this is how easily one can put all the blame in Toei when even Toyotaro saw that coming (jeez, I wonder why, is like someone behind Toei and Toyotaro knowing this). The same was with "the Pothara retcon", all blame was directed to Toei, but when the manga needs to make the same becase reasons (Toriyama) is all good-y and "logical" somehow
@andreware2039
@andreware2039 7 лет назад
Yeah. Have to remember that Toriyama still does have some part in all of this.
@HaganeNoGijutsushi
@HaganeNoGijutsushi 7 лет назад
The manga just sells the whole thing better, IMHO. Maybe it just drops a couple of lines here and there, adjusts some things, but in general, it feels more believable. The anime is all over the place at times, not just in terms of plot, but in terms of how it tells it.
@_Matioh_
@_Matioh_ 7 лет назад
Hagane no Gijutsushi The manga didn't do any better for the explanation about the Potharas, was just the same as the anime but it didn't receive the same backlash because "manga must be better in any sense, i believe it" the "believable" thing from the manga can fell apart really easy when suddenly Toyotaro make some plotholes like "being a Kai and the Time Ring but suddenly neither Zamasu or Black are kais but they still can use the Time Ring" or SSJ2 Trunks being strong as SSJ3 Goku but Vegeta can beat the shit of Black being both SSJ2.
@andreware2039
@andreware2039 7 лет назад
+Matioh2014 Yep. Both anime and manga have their problems, but I label them. The Manga to me is more of a fan service type of thing right now, while anime is...pure marketing hype. Which works very well, to be honest. I still like them for what they are, though.
@_Matioh_
@_Matioh_ 7 лет назад
Andre Ware Is not like the anime didn't show fanservice for the audience... like all the old techniques from DBZ and DB being used at least for one episode. Even the anime has better character development for others than Goku and Vegeta, meanwhile the manga is like only focusing is those two (like almost everyone was complaining before about "only the saiyans do something in the story")
@Koryn_99
@Koryn_99 7 лет назад
The only thing I'm really tired of in Super is going away from the big plot of the episode that matters for yet another bit where Beerus and Whis are eating some delicious earth food and Whis has some foodgasms. I could take or leave Majin Buu tbh, I'm more partial to the first two parts of DBZ (first is up to and including Frieza, second is up to and including Cell, third is the rest of the series after that). I always thought Fat Buu surviving was kind of unnecessary anyway. But if he'd stayed thin, I feel that would have injected some cool new life into him as a character for me. More Yamcha, please, and let him be useful again, at least somewhat prominently like Tien and Krillin. I wonder if the whole "Yamcha is pathetic" meme that Toei is embracing in Super would have been widespread enough for them to do it if DBZA hadn't honed in on it so much? Not knocking DBZA, I love it, just wondering.
@RobbenLew
@RobbenLew 7 лет назад
It's not fair to blame TOEI, most probably this is Toriyama's blueprint on the story. I expect the same reason Majin Buu missing out the tournament in the manga version.
@LainK1978
@LainK1978 7 лет назад
Me too; the U6 arc Toyotaro had an alternative, but this time he really doesn't.
@seanstange8704
@seanstange8704 7 лет назад
I really think it's just Toryama fucking with us for shits and giggles. He knows how serious a lot of people are about Dragonball, , and did this just to troll. If I were him, i'd probably do the same thing
@SenshiSam
@SenshiSam 7 лет назад
I love that oldman for doing that.
@maskedsaiyan1738
@maskedsaiyan1738 7 лет назад
Shit. Toei needs more passionate writers and Toriyama needs to have a better work ethic.
@vaniljacob
@vaniljacob 7 лет назад
Adrian Jimenez Perhaps someone from Shuiesha's newly established Dragonball room could take over for the writing staff, but Toei doesn't want that.
@jimgreen4418
@jimgreen4418 7 лет назад
Sometime during the year 2012-ish, Toei Animation became, and continues to be, a sweatshop-tier animation studio, people really need catch onto this fact asap.
@GyrosLeftSteelBall
@GyrosLeftSteelBall 7 лет назад
If Toriyama had a better work ethic we likely wouldnt have super saiyans
@kae1971
@kae1971 7 лет назад
I fear it's more Toriyama Sensei then Toei. Toriyama in his good stories always has had editors helping him, with no one stopping him, he now does what ever he likes and go out of control.
@succubastard1019
@succubastard1019 7 лет назад
Yeah
@alanleos3637
@alanleos3637 7 лет назад
Eh, let him do as he pleases. He's Akira Fucking Toriyama.
@Gearsio
@Gearsio 6 лет назад
Alan Leos if he didn't have an editor during the Cell Saga we wouldn't have had Cells Final form look like it did
@FinalMasterM
@FinalMasterM 7 лет назад
I was gonna ask "What about the Dragon Balls?" but you mentioned them right there at the end. Just like Goku's instant transmission, they've long been forgotten about at this point.
@GwainTralos
@GwainTralos 7 лет назад
They also just used the Earth Dragon Balls in Ep. 68, and we always say "What about New Namek?", but they could have used theirs too.
@FinalMasterM
@FinalMasterM 7 лет назад
Maybe I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that the Earth balls were used awhile ago, at least long ago enough to be used again. There's really nothing really giving us a time frame other than Bulma wasn't pregnant during that episode, at least we weren't informed she was. Edit: Looking at a time line on the wiki, it seems that it's only been a few months since they were used, darn.
@josuecuevas98
@josuecuevas98 7 лет назад
I love it when Masako gets like this "MARKETING!" Gotta love it
@JesseNightingale
@JesseNightingale 7 лет назад
I want to see Beerus punching Buu multipull times with it not working xD
@martendo67
@martendo67 7 лет назад
Jesse Robinson have him in the background bitch slapping his sleepy ass for like a good couple minutes
@Zinthos741
@Zinthos741 7 лет назад
Everyone is forgetting about whis's time space room.
@RoyalGhost-27
@RoyalGhost-27 7 лет назад
So just gonna throw this out there, there's no way this isn't a Toriyama decision. You really think he's gonna let Toei pull one of his fighters and replace them. Seriously Toei makes some mistakes but jesus christ they aren't to blame for every poor decision to come out of Dragon Ball storytelling.
@trinityassassinz9195
@trinityassassinz9195 7 лет назад
My sentiments exactly. This feels like a Toriyama decision through and through. Which is why I think the title is a bit disingenuous since this decision to exclude Majin Buu from the ToP was most likely Toriyama's idea.
@LainK1978
@LainK1978 7 лет назад
The same goes for Buu not being part of the U6 tournament; that was Toriyama too. It was just that Toyotaro decided not to use the sleeping gag to explain his failure in the manga.
@Thisdude850
@Thisdude850 7 лет назад
That depens,look at the female Broly,you think Toriyama cares or even remembers who Broly is? For example the female Broly screams of Toei,they milked him in 3 movies and most video games that came out.
@shupasopni
@shupasopni 7 лет назад
Well yeah nobody said they don't do *anything* just they didn't do this. Plus that could have been Toriyama too since he designed the character and iirc likes him, but probs Toei.
@WhitemageofDoom
@WhitemageofDoom 7 лет назад
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Toriyama gave the team as the one we got, and Toei is like "Ok well what the HECK do we do with buu?"
@Manfromthenorth0551
@Manfromthenorth0551 7 лет назад
Am I the only one who is really indifferent to this sort of thing? I'm watching DBS on the regular and I'm eager to watch each episode. But when stuff like this happens, I feel indifferent. Like; " Oh, this is happening. I wonder where the story will go from here." Anyone else like that?
@imdone439
@imdone439 7 лет назад
me too
@Jegfil
@Jegfil 7 лет назад
That is probably like half of the watchers, but they just don't comment about it. That was me, when I watched Z, I knew basic stuff like: "well it's kinda too long", or "this kinda feels like it's not even important to the story/doesn't match with the original tone" (example: filler arcs). But there are main things that bothered me even then (even as a "casual" viewer): -How the hell did Roshi blow up the moon? Is moon in DB universe smaller? (didn't make sence in terms of power imo). -How are human made androids stronger than Frieza? (after Frieza arc that kinda doesn't make sense imo). -Why are ki blasts so "weak" in terms of destruction. -Some filler stuff (like I said before).
@andnl9819
@andnl9819 7 лет назад
Matthew Hilliker I was actually pretty excited when I heard this. Sure I wanted to see super fitness Buu fight but I'm even more excited about the replacement and what could happen with the series based on that(assuming Toei doesn't double bait and switch).
@KingsNerdCave
@KingsNerdCave 7 лет назад
With you, usually.
@the_enderslayer
@the_enderslayer 7 лет назад
Matthew Hilliker I usually would be indifferent if they didn't false advertise Buu for 3-4 months then switch him out with Frieza who was nowhere to be seen at the last second.
@ironic9751
@ironic9751 7 лет назад
Black by popular demand. Frieza by popular demand
@princevegeta8217
@princevegeta8217 7 лет назад
how are you doing kakarot
@ironic9751
@ironic9751 7 лет назад
Prince Vegeta don't worry Vegeta I know how important it is to keep up with me
@princevegeta8217
@princevegeta8217 7 лет назад
a goku with pic of broly
@lordtachanka7867
@lordtachanka7867 7 лет назад
Broly vs Majin vegeta who would win
@Reality-Distortion
@Reality-Distortion 7 лет назад
Broly from which movie?
@JoelBurger
@JoelBurger 7 лет назад
Can't wait until the exact same thing happens in the manga, like every other decision people have blamed Toei for but turned out to just be in Toriyama's outline.
@spartant1107
@spartant1107 7 лет назад
Toyotaro was the first one to even say that the teams aren't as they seem, but people seem to be over looking that to blame Toei
@vaniljacob
@vaniljacob 7 лет назад
SpartanT110 Let's be honest, if Toyotaro had sense, he probably wouldn't recruit Freeza.
@kalif710
@kalif710 7 лет назад
Someone needs to Hakai Toei, maybe that'll get them to think.
@Matt_Underwood
@Matt_Underwood 7 лет назад
Yeah destroy them into nothingness, that will teach them a lesson for the next time they fuck up. They need to learn and....... Oooohhhhh....
@Dante-yc5fo
@Dante-yc5fo 7 лет назад
wow, someone is triggered. lol.
@SheltonPiresPires165
@SheltonPiresPires165 7 лет назад
Kalif what about Toriyama? Come on lets not try to forget him, he's the one who doesn't want to use buu, if he wanted buu to be relevant, Toei wouldn't have done this
@Arwalld
@Arwalld 7 лет назад
I don't think the reason is that they run out of ideas for majin boo.The reason it's that majin boo it's broken.He can defeat alone every single opponent at the tournament taking advantage of the "not killing allowed"Just think about it, he has infinite stamina, it's imposible to take about of the ring if he propose, he can absorb and he can transform everybody (without killing them) in candies at once.
@grandpac6044
@grandpac6044 7 лет назад
Haven't watched the video yet, but I hope I'm going to hear "MARKETING"
@SpecialBeam
@SpecialBeam 7 лет назад
The frustration is real, huh Masako.
@IcZ2013
@IcZ2013 7 лет назад
How to make Majin Buu Sleep *TURN SUPER SAIYAN 3*
@phatman9762
@phatman9762 7 лет назад
I thought you were going to say "enter him into a tournament" lol
@allhailzamasu69
@allhailzamasu69 7 лет назад
Phat Kid exactly enter him in the tournament would been more funny
@SangoSon12
@SangoSon12 7 лет назад
Being a Buu fan, I'm glad MasakoX is speaking up for us and our frustration over this situation!
@RauschenPauli
@RauschenPauli 7 лет назад
man, really wanted to see skinny Buu. Looked really cool and maybe would have had something like super Buu if he would get really pumped but nah. just threw frieza in again
@jessica_swan
@jessica_swan 7 лет назад
Rausche Pauli yeah I was excited for that too..oh wel
@KhaosAdmiral
@KhaosAdmiral 7 лет назад
who knows, maybe they have plans for Buu in a future arc
@SlugKiss
@SlugKiss 7 лет назад
I love me some Buu, but I don't have a problem with this. Having Buu be unreliable fits in with the existing narrative of not being able to have gods solve all your problems for you, or in his case, not having indestructible bubble-gum monsters solve your problems. This isn't a story about Majin Buu, it's a story about Goku and the consequences of having the audacity to challenge the gods. We got TWO really good fights featuring Buu this arc. Let the big guy have his rest.
@Matt_Underwood
@Matt_Underwood 7 лет назад
Funny thing is, I am not really sad that Buu is out of the tournament. I like Freeza more, and because so many people don't like it, I find it funny
@callumleitch6441
@callumleitch6441 7 лет назад
I think people are pissed at how they stopped Buu from being in the tournament, not the fact they bringing back Freeza and anyone else who hates that they're bringing back Freeza again, aren't focusing on the possibilities, at least not the good ones, me however I hope they don't disappoint, good idea all depends on the delivery
@Matt_Underwood
@Matt_Underwood 7 лет назад
Callum Leitch Well Buu falling asleep is not something new. And maybe because I am not really fond of Buu but love Freeza, that I do not mind it
@GameBreaker1055
@GameBreaker1055 7 лет назад
it is going to be annoying at the point when the whole DBS cast is only Frieza. Gohan can't fight because of work? Bring in Frieza! Goku is dead? (Again) Bring in Frieza "But Frieza is also..." BRING IN FRIEZA! No idea for a villian? Bring in Frieza Next episode EVERY Universe will have a Frieza, I tell you!
@Big_Sierra
@Big_Sierra 7 лет назад
I agree. Lol.
@DarkTenka
@DarkTenka 7 лет назад
I want to see Freeza kick Frost's ass.
@williamcortelyou4524
@williamcortelyou4524 7 лет назад
Frieza actually has a lot to offer in terms of a good arc in the future. Perhaps participating in the tournament will help frieza perfect and maybe improve his golden form. And he still has an intergalactic army, it would be awesome to see the rise of the new Frieza Empire, maybe even having Frieza somehow take the mantle of God of Destruction from Beerus. Remember, Frieza was supposed to be the end of DBZ. He was the strongest being in the universe. He's also Toriyamas fav villian.
@xbubbahotep
@xbubbahotep 7 лет назад
buu is too expensive to animate during fights. that is what I am convinced of.
@crozecamp
@crozecamp 7 лет назад
A MEGA franchise like Dragon Ball shouldn't be limited to poor quality because of cheap executives. If that's the case then Toei should give up Dragon Ball to a studio who actually wants to see it's full potential.
@Lemonboy132
@Lemonboy132 7 лет назад
That's actually why they didn't pick Cell instead of Frieza probably. Cell was obviously more wanted by fans.
@jimgreen4418
@jimgreen4418 7 лет назад
What exactly do you mean by "too expensive"?
@graverobbingcleric2745
@graverobbingcleric2745 7 лет назад
Jim Green Cell in particular has a lot of Detail work, and the more details, the longer they have to pay some guy at Toei to draw him every episode. Hence Goku becoming blonde during the Namek saga to save coloring time. Soup-or-Sandwich Goku is a cost reduction first.
@TiltCntrlz
@TiltCntrlz 7 лет назад
She is different in the way that the audience wasn't hyped to see her fight.
@LBDNytetrayn
@LBDNytetrayn 7 лет назад
Wow. I haven't seen all of these videos, but this is the first time I've seen Masako get this worked up.
@fromolwyoming
@fromolwyoming 7 лет назад
Well, the pink bubblegum monster is rather overpowered in this sort of thing once you think about it, being able to learn any move simply by seeing it once, regeneration that puts Piccolo to shame, can turn everyone into candy... I get why people want to see him in there and are triggered by him not being in the tournament, but Buu is simply too OP in his abilities for the tournament. Freezer the Cold at least makes for quite a few interesting interactions.
@sammydray5919
@sammydray5919 7 лет назад
fromolwyoming Or you know they could have been a bit more creative about Buu's fights. Have fighters from other universes have abilities to counter him. Or powers to negate his healing abilities. Hell have someone from pride troopers to have complete counter abilities to shut down Buu until he was taken care of!!! Anything!!!! ANYTHING would have been better than simply repeating this shitty gag :( (Sorry for the rant, its just I'm so irritated with Super constantly shafting Buu)
@spookysilversrayleigh8204
@spookysilversrayleigh8204 7 лет назад
Sammy Dray Dude. They would have to actually think to do that.
@sammydray5919
@sammydray5919 7 лет назад
Sabo Chief of Staff Huh thats a good point.... *OH WELL!!!*
@KhaosAdmiral
@KhaosAdmiral 7 лет назад
I think what the op meant by that was that Buu's appearance in the tournament would just make things anticlimactic. At least with Freeza he is insanely powerful but he cant keep fighting at full power consistently. plus I find the idea of Freeza being forced to fight alongside some of the people he hates with a passion to be deliciously cruel irony.
@Nairot
@Nairot 7 лет назад
As far as I know Dragon Ball is a pretty popular anime, for fucks sake Son Goku is ambassador for the olympic games 2020... why do they treat the show like it's the product of the new guy in which nobody believes but fuck it, we have a time slot between 3 and 4 am to fill...
@sebotrp
@sebotrp 7 лет назад
I love that we finally have female Super Saiyan and i love Caulifla too. But the way she transformed into SSJ was just BS... Heh, Future Gohan was such a bad teacher. Why didn't he told Trunks to feel a tingle in his back? I mean if the sight of death and destruction caused by the Androids wasn't enough for him to transform then a tingle would definitely do the job. Seriously though i love Super a lot, but i'm really getting tired of Toei's bullshit.
@martendo67
@martendo67 7 лет назад
SeboTrzyDe3D same man
@johnman8398
@johnman8398 7 лет назад
I think it's a combination of Trunks was weak at the time and Universe 6 saiyans function differently.
@m3dri
@m3dri 7 лет назад
U6 Saiyans are different to U7.
@constanzabestest
@constanzabestest 7 лет назад
Greywing Gryphon Nah Toei just pulled that nonesense from their asses so they could give Caulifla a Super Saiyan form in one episode without having to worry about writing and stuff like that. Let's just give her a Super Saiyan form quickly so she can start making us money ASAP. That was Toei's mindset behind her transformation. I mean a Super Saiyan Waifu? Who wouldn't want that?
@ohhai10
@ohhai10 7 лет назад
That's not how it works. Cabba said that's the feeling he feels when transforming AFTER he got used to the form. Caulifla just straight up skipped the anger part which shocked Cabba. Plus, Caulifla has far more power than Trunks did back then. She has power to spare to transform.
@Benaditus
@Benaditus 7 лет назад
I agreed with your idea about waking him up with the dragonballs. Goku's instant transmission (which he strangely neglects at times) would help immensely with finding the dragonballs; hell, they can even use one of the wishes to restore the room of spirit and time, or make it so buu never has to sleep again, etc. I feel that the dragonballs could add a lot of exciting variables, so when you mentioned it, I was pretty pumped, since I was thinking something similar.
@mariopartier123
@mariopartier123 7 лет назад
Salty Masako, don't ever summon him
@jimgreen4418
@jimgreen4418 7 лет назад
True words have been spoken here
@CobraCommanderNLD
@CobraCommanderNLD 7 лет назад
In my headcanon Buu sleeping is either because it is an after effect of no longer sleeping for years in that ball/cocoon thingy Bibidi put him in OR perhaps he is very slowly growing a female majin inside of him (instead of instant like in Xenoverse 2), thus requiring a lot of energy,
@grandpac6044
@grandpac6044 7 лет назад
They should've gave Majin Buu a cocktail of meth and coffe
@jessica_swan
@jessica_swan 7 лет назад
Grandpa C mainline that shizz
@gerlach1025
@gerlach1025 7 лет назад
What annoys me about Buu falling asleep now is that Toei went out of their way to show how excited Buu was to participate in the tournament. If he was not interested and was being forced to participate then I may have bought him falling asleep.
@DragonBallSuperCentralTV
@DragonBallSuperCentralTV 7 лет назад
Buu is a haxor sort of character (turning everyone into candy), so I kind of get why they didn't include him
@tiablue9106
@tiablue9106 7 лет назад
Then they shouldn't have hyped him up
@almondjoy4938
@almondjoy4938 7 лет назад
Tia Blue Indeed.
@king-k9675
@king-k9675 7 лет назад
No he isn't. The candy beam would go against the rules of no killing.
@kyotanaka920
@kyotanaka920 7 лет назад
King-K9 It doesn't kill. Otherwise, Vegito would be dead, and all the people turned into candies would be sent straight to heaven instead of waiting. People are still alive in that horrid state.
@DragonBallSuperCentralTV
@DragonBallSuperCentralTV 7 лет назад
Tia Blue I get you, they did let down some of the fans in that regard. There could be arguments for and against his exclusion, that could go on and on however.
@Nightshadow998
@Nightshadow998 7 лет назад
The problem with using Buu is that unless is opponent is leagues stronger than himor if he is facing another Buu, he pretty much wins. I mean look at him, he has ridiculous durability and regeneration plus the fact that he never gets tired, its hard to give the character a compelling fight. Its not impossible, his fight against Basil was really fun but how many times could we watch Buu either Stone Wall his opponents or be a victim of the Worf effect before it gets old. Mind you none of this justifies how they are currently treating Buu but if does explain why they are so hesitant to use him.
@mctankies
@mctankies 7 лет назад
I am disappointed that Buu isn't in the tournament, but I really do like the idea of Frieza being forced to play along with his most hated nemesis, Goku. But in the bottom of my heart, I know Buu wouldn't really matter in the Tournament of Power; sure he would get his five second of glory, but I want him to really matter. This whole tournament, imo, is just gonna boil down to Jiren vs. Goku; everyone will have their little moment but Goku and Jiren in their fight will eat up a decent bit of the Tournament, and that just disappoints me. EDIT: I think Vegeta should have been out so he could take care of Bra, and then they could have done the whole Frieza recruitment scenario. Frieza potentially being brought back to life and maybe teaming up with Frost in a later arc would be an interesting concept. Sorry, I am tired and my writing is not at its finest right now.
@makootithebionicman3612
@makootithebionicman3612 7 лет назад
or we could dump Tien as he is a bland character anyways.
@shupasopni
@shupasopni 7 лет назад
I'd rather they got rid of Roshi.
@BaliUchiha
@BaliUchiha 7 лет назад
Rondal Norris its a RU-vid comment section not a grammar class no need to apologize
@acciuntxyz3462
@acciuntxyz3462 7 лет назад
shupasopni except that roshi has personality, turn...lost it somewhere along the line
@MirIsAwesome
@MirIsAwesome 7 лет назад
dang you were getting e x t r a s a l t y there at the end lol but i can't say i don't agree with you because i was raging too lol but honestly this is probably toriyama's idea and i guess i'm fine with it as long as it's executed well - or i guess i ain't mad anymore because with the spoilers i've already had enough time to grieve and be disappointed and now i'm just looking forward to see what else comes out of this so i guess this is one time i'm thankful to have been spoiled ahead of time lol. i still wish they'd stop giving my boi buu the shaft but i can understand why they did it, i mean he is pretty OP for this tournament with his healing abilities and it would make it more suspenseful (and fair) for him to be out, regardless of whether or not he gets replaced by frieza :/
@brockbillings4299
@brockbillings4299 7 лет назад
*Before we knew the team* "Why don't they revive Freeza and Cell to be on the team??" *they revive freeza* 'WTF TOEI WHY YOU REVIVE HIM AGAIN???" Seriously, I feel bad for toei, they can't win in these situations
@vankampwn674
@vankampwn674 7 лет назад
Brock Billings I feel it's more so the specifics as to why he's being revived. nobody likes a bait and switch
@Gnidel
@Gnidel 7 лет назад
I think they intentionally wanted to disappoint us to make Buu's return later better. Especially if the tournament won't come smoothly.
@Kerath
@Kerath 7 лет назад
Frieza toys sell way better than Buu toys. That's pretty much it.
@LainK1978
@LainK1978 7 лет назад
It's totally not because Toriyama's favorite villain is Frieza.
@Matamune87
@Matamune87 7 лет назад
Woa Masako. You really look very pissed XD The only good reason to bring back Frieza would be to make him interact with Frost in some way and/or tell us something more about the "demons of cold".
@kaitlynxy3358
@kaitlynxy3358 7 лет назад
He seems pissed
@elliott421
@elliott421 7 лет назад
My biggest irk with this is it seems they don't know what to do with Buu, but worse than that is is no one seems to have any plan about what to do with him going forward and aren't attempting to put anything out there. In other words, they're stuck in Limbo and have built a home there. Based on what I've seen, I get the impression that most fans like Innocent Buu as a character. Now, it's one thing to make him a more light-hearted and sillier character, but that doesn't have to be his one defining character trait. If the exhibition match is anything to go off of, Buu could be a very valuable fighter for everyone. Think about it, he's a god-killer with insane regenerative abilities. Even if Innocent Buu adopted a no-kill policy, he's shown he's a competent fighter given what we saw in episode 85. It's silly to relegate him to gag character as his only trait and function when it's clear there's a lot more to him. Toei et al is sitting on a huge pile of potential, yet they're throwing gasoline on it and lighting it on fire. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Spoilers from here on out---------------------------------------------------------------------- But no, let's take an incredibly cheap and tawdry plot point and exploit it for all its worth to keep Buu out of things so that we can have an excuse to bring Frieza, frickin' Frieza into the mix!I know the answer is marketing, but from an in-universe perspective, why him? Why?! Frieza is bad to the bone, and there are some characters out there who don't do so well going from villain to good guy simply because they were so enjoyable when they are so bad. Not only that, but not everyone gets redeemed, and Frieza, to me, doesn't come across as the kind of guy who would change his ways, especially when it's Goku asking him for help. Since at the time of this writing, the big moment and the entire arc as a whole has not aired yet, I'll hold my final judgements on the matter. Let's see how this plays out first.
@jomama05
@jomama05 7 лет назад
I'd rather see Cell instead of Freeza. It's just sad that they'd cop out and use the Voice actor for Freeza more
@Ryzen776
@Ryzen776 7 лет назад
They're just cheap and Cell is hard to animated. He would have a lot more potential than Freeza, and his lay back personality would fit better in a team.
@shupasopni
@shupasopni 7 лет назад
Also Frieza is more popular in Japan and possibly overall.
@SythKohore
@SythKohore 7 лет назад
i have a thought. this hibernation is actually something that has been a longtime coming. the reason he has been falling asleep, since universe 7 vs.9 arc, has been it is his time to hibernate. however, because he was continually awakened before he finished, it became more like a power nap. I mean come on, as humans if we go a long time without regular sleep we experience a crash that could last a day, ive done it when i was in college when i needed more time and worked through the nights. So thinking of it this way, all the times he was asleep was not because of a gag, it was hinting at his hibernation.
@cybersoul2809
@cybersoul2809 7 лет назад
You know Toriyama is the one that decided to change Buu for Freeza, right?
@martendo67
@martendo67 7 лет назад
Cyber Soul Show me the car fax
@cybersoul2809
@cybersoul2809 7 лет назад
The fuck?
@vaniljacob
@vaniljacob 7 лет назад
Cyber Soul He means the exact statement
@KingNazaru
@KingNazaru 7 лет назад
Cyber Soul He's saying he wants you to prove it. And so do I.
@SoLazy100
@SoLazy100 7 лет назад
Toriyama writes the basic story, Toei fills in the holes. The team members are Toriyama's decision.
@Razmedivh
@Razmedivh 7 лет назад
I think one of the issues with Majin Buu and I'm not sure where I've read this or watched this, is Majin Buu's package of abilities. Buu was a character that takes a lot of punishment, never truly gets hurt and possesses the ability to absorb his enemies. These abilities are extremely problematic for a tournament scene. For one, what happens when no one's able to hurt or knock out Buu because of his magical form? It steals the thunder from the other fighters when you realize this character really probably shouldn't suffer a ring out for any reason and can't be harmed. Second his absorption package can create an entire other set of problems. If he's able to grow exponentially in this tournament and also potentially absorb all the evil of the other universes we could end up with a repeat Buu Saga. But it has to be mentioned that although I hear a lot of rage against the reuse of Frieza, he is tremendously popular and this is the one situation where we get to see Frieza fighting alongside the Heroes. The adjustment could've been made to another member of the lineup, but I think that Toriyama followed the Last-In First Out method for his team.
@slickchick5811
@slickchick5811 7 лет назад
I think if you had opponents who either had incompatible energy for him to absorb, or a way to neutralize absorption it would seriously hurt Buu. He can be defeated, just not the conventional way. Or even if someone had energy poisonous to his structure making his cells break down.
@Patrick-zs3vp
@Patrick-zs3vp 7 лет назад
Story must be told... Goku nd Freeza becum frinds
@HolyAjora
@HolyAjora 7 лет назад
The ultimate problem is that sometimes in a story you will come across a character who is "easy" to write as a villain, but "hard" to write as a hero due to their powers. Buu is an example of such a character. It's not impossible, but it requires effort. Sadly a lot of times, writers do not want to put in the effort so they come up with excuses for why the higher level being or villain turned good can't help the heroes. If the excuse wasn't sleeping, it would have been something else. Of course a good part of it is sometimes the writers want X to get the "kill" so they will find a way to keep Y out of the fight. Sure Y could defeat the big bad easily himself, but wait we want X to get the glory. "Gasp, Y was turned to stone" or "Oh no Y was sealed in another dimension" We will never see Buu do more than an occasion "example match" until everyone involved becomes willing to put in the effort to write a character like Buu as a hero. As long as they'd rather avoid the effort, Buu won't be doing any real fighting. What's sad here is they could have had it both ways. They could have had Buu enter the tournament, but also have be one of the first characters to get ringed out. After all, it's not like they promised everyone in Universe 7 would make it to the end of the fight. An early ring out would be a devastating way to start things. Granted there would be issues with that. Such as the fact it would ruin the whole "new member" thing they were going for and one might question the idea of Buu losing early, but at least it would be a change of pace. Unless of course Buu rings out because he fell asleep, trips over nothing and falls out of the ring.
@najibosman6497
@najibosman6497 7 лет назад
Honestly yamacha has been given the biggest shaft thanks to fans reception of the character and thanks to that now even toei is making him a joke. I'm sorry but not a fan of how this character is being treated recently it's not funny he was a pretty cool character in dragon ball and early parts of z but now he's joke this needs to end. (Random topic I just wanted to say)
@makootithebionicman3612
@makootithebionicman3612 7 лет назад
Mr. Too Nervous around girls who get's smacked around by the one girl who was once happy just to find him, lived as a desert bum who could have done literally ANYTHING else, could barely compete with Tienshinhan in DB, get's blown up by a SAIBAMAN at the VERY BEGINNING of the Saiyan fight, gets cucked by the very Saiyan that ordered his death and takes it lying down like a bitch, and then the only actual action I can remember later is that one time he lays a smack down with the other Z-fighters on the GInyu force... yeah I think Yamucha deserves every bit of what is happening with him.
@LainK1978
@LainK1978 7 лет назад
Yamcha got his moment of Glory by winning the baseball game for U7.
@makootithebionicman3612
@makootithebionicman3612 7 лет назад
and getting blown up in the same position as he did to a saibaman.. let's face it even his moment of glory is over shadowed by how much of a joke he is.
@benthomas8497
@benthomas8497 7 лет назад
I think this is the first full rant video i've seen from masako... i'm not complaining
@ShadeKetchum
@ShadeKetchum 7 лет назад
Again? We're blaming Toei again? Really? Should we forget that Toriyama was the one who had Buu excluded the first time and that he loves to troll the fans? No, we shouldn't. This is just hopping on the Toei hate bandwagon because nobody wants to say anything bad about Toriyama. This is his decision and the anime is following his outline of the story he crafted. I have no doubt about that. What's worse is you criticized them for showing the full team beforehand and said we had less reason to care because it was a foregone conclusion, and then when this curveball is thrown later in the game that throws you off (which was likely the intention the whole time) you criticize them for doing things differently to how we first thought. Nothing sort of being hypocritical. I used to watch your videos because there was much more positivity compared to other Dragon Ball channels. But now, like so many others, it's wrapped up in negativity because something doesn't happen the way you thought it would or wanted to. I can't stand to watch more of this so, good luck with your negativity and unjust blaming from here Masako.
@RobertoNeve
@RobertoNeve 7 лет назад
ShadeKetchum I like Masako's videos but it's seriously getting on my nerves how he thinks Toei is behind EVERYTHING happening in Super, whether good or bad. It just shows how ignorant he is when it comes to the show's production. He didn't even know about Toyotaro and the manga until a little while ago. The ironic thing is that Toei actually gave Buu some love in the exihibition matches before being forced to throw him away, yet they still get hate. I can tell you the manga version will skip the exihibition entirely and Buu will already be asleep even before being considered as a team pick. It will be "LET'S PICK BUU OH WAIT HE'S ASLEEP LET'S PICK FRIEZA" all in one page, given how rushed the manga is due to the monthly schedule. But hey, Toei boogeyman.
@garfunky2
@garfunky2 7 лет назад
Haha this was one of the better videos. It's got passion and you weren't giving DBS the benefit of the doubt or undue praise. You said what we were all thinking. This is good Masako.
@Augestein
@Augestein 7 лет назад
Majin Buu? More like "Majin BOO NO ONE WANTED YOU TO DO THIS TOEI!" Also, what grinds my gears is that my friend brought up a really good point. You know what power would be useful from the Frieza's army? Ginyu. His Body Swap would be so overpowered it wouldn't even be funny. Mass chaos within the enemy lines simply by switching everyone's body's as need be. Even worse, is that it seems like Super wants to avoid everything from the Buu arc. I'll be the first to admit that it wasn't my favorite of the DBZ arcs, but COME ON. It doesn't get to do anything. What was the POINT of showing us how well Buu could fight, show him training and getting fit and ready to fight only to have this happen? Like, it's not even that the person they chose was here-- it's the fact that our time was wasted seeing all of these other I know I'm being weird, but I'm honestly hoping things go like this: Goku approaches Frieza and asks for help, and Frieza's demands are so unreasonably difficult to uphold that they decide to use someone else. Like... Dabora. Like... How did they forget this guy? The dude could spit and petrify people! Tell me you wouldn't want that power, he can spit on them, and throw them out of the ring, and it's totally *not* killing people, and he's pretty strong regardless. Another one that I had as a joke, if they really want to keep with stupid things? Launch. Yes, that's right, have Launch come back as the tenth fighter. Primed and ready to fight, and fully in control of her hair color changing and ready to fight. I'd honestly take anyone over Frieza, as I'm totally done with this: if we don't get that Beerus was the one that wanted Planet Vegeta destroyed, I'm sorry, but I might have to admit that GT > Super.
@liyifenn
@liyifenn 7 лет назад
Overreaction, but good points.
@futuregohan4837
@futuregohan4837 7 лет назад
I'm Sorry But I Hated GT One Of The Reasons Why I Hated It Is Goku Being An Kid Again I Mean What The Fuck Toei Who Thinks That Was An Good Idea
@Lancor84
@Lancor84 7 лет назад
Buu didn't just fell asleep before the universe 6 tournament. He fell asleep because he never could solve the idiot test.
@martijnvanweele6204
@martijnvanweele6204 7 лет назад
Toei needs to get their shit together about spoilers. I'm not sure if this is a fair comparison, but the people of the BBC who make Doctor Who are pretty much spoiler-paranoid, going as far as to give the show the working title "Torchwood" (an anagram for Doctor Who and the future name of a spin-off series), so that people couldn't find the show to spoil it. Karen Gillan revealed on TV that when you get to play a companion, you are to tell the staff of the BBC when you arrive that you're there for a show called "Panic Moon" (another anagram and a potential future spinoff, who knows?). They go through great pains to not let anything slip out. Toei is pretty successful, they could spend some effort, couldn't they? Or at least not deliberately leaking spoilers, like it seems to me they're doing...
@succubastard1019
@succubastard1019 7 лет назад
It's probably Toriyama's fault, changing his idea at the last moment without thinking about it a second time, so TOEI had to come up with something.
@martijnvanweele6204
@martijnvanweele6204 7 лет назад
That just makes it EVEN MORE unacceptable... You are making a show that can change its course at the last minute and yet you manage to spoil it weeks in advance? One does not simply do that accidentally. One does not simply do that on purpose, even... I'd have to assume Toei is MAKING AN EFFORT to ACTIVELY SPOIL THEIR OWN SHOW, then...
@thejamman4070
@thejamman4070 5 лет назад
I remember watching the episode where Buu falls asleep. All I could think was, “Yeah, Buu would be kind of a ringer.”
@keerokamiya9126
@keerokamiya9126 7 лет назад
I gotta take issue with you saying that Toei deserves all the criticism they've been getting from fans, and then going on to say "Oh well I FINALLY got my in-print issue of the manga". You can't act like the decisions the series makes are all crap and then get huffy about not being provided with content, like the manga, at the same time. Comes off as a little fan boyish and hypocritical. Not to mention all those spoilers help you lot make videos
@shupasopni
@shupasopni 7 лет назад
Just because you think that a company deserves criticism does not mean you can't enjoy the products they make. And I bet he would be much happier to make a video about news he thinks is good rather than bad and is (in his opinion) a bad move for the series he enjoys watching. What's more important is that this is probably more Toriyama's choice then Toei.
@keerokamiya9126
@keerokamiya9126 7 лет назад
I'm just sayin beggers can't be choosers. Do I think a fan is someone who never complains about the series they enjoy? No, that would make them a blind fanboy, but there is still such a thing as fanboys who aren't blind but are still fanboys, and obsess over every detail needing to be spot on. It's just an anime series fellas, no need to take it so seriously. DBZ has never exactly been the front runner for amazing story telling anyway, the show is about what it does best, fighting. I mean between that being what it leans on and the whole we can retcon shit that happens with the Dragon balls, I'm amazed anyone complains about inconsistencies in story.
@userasdf
@userasdf 7 лет назад
agreed. Krillin "quitting" bothered me more than it did you I feel. It was pointless. Just a teaser to make you think something was happening but it gets resolved in a second. It's like those season end cliffhangers which resolve the next season in like 5 seconds. It's a cheap tactic to drum up interest.
@pubgguru2.023
@pubgguru2.023 7 лет назад
anyone remember bibbidity bobbity boo line from Cinderella they came to DBZ
@alexisauld7781
@alexisauld7781 7 лет назад
I'm not the only one who noticed this! YUS!
@braedenalberti
@braedenalberti 7 лет назад
I was so exited for buu. I mean who better to represent the universe than a being of chaos that was conceived at the beginning of time? Someone Freiza fears just as much as beerus. Someone who warped reality after having a tantrum. Someone who nearly wiped out the universe on his own while also trying to save it from himself. Someone who would later go on to create his own species. It's such a waste of potential.
@bones3349
@bones3349 7 лет назад
i dont care tbh freeza coming back and actually teaming up with goku n the rest is so fucking hype and so muh more interesting than just buu i think the sleeping gag is absolute trash but im too excited for freeza to care
@HunhowsShadowStalker
@HunhowsShadowStalker 7 лет назад
I like Mr. Satan saying that Buu often only needed a few seconds of sleep. It reminds me of "Quick Sleep" from the Xenoverse games, a Majin-only technique that, when held active, makes the Majin in question take a nap for a short while to regain health.
@sireeshatekuru
@sireeshatekuru 7 лет назад
I don't really care.. Buu isn't all that interesting to me. I'd prefer frieza any day.
@mephustowest1876
@mephustowest1876 7 лет назад
I agree with you. I hate the decisions that they are making. I really liked where they were going with Buu. I absolutely hate the idea of his replacement. It makes me so angry.
@dane.2294
@dane.2294 7 лет назад
That's quite a bit of salt at the end for a character that's basically a walking fat joke. Do people really give that much shit about a character that talks like a baby and eats candy all day?
@RyuKaguya
@RyuKaguya 7 лет назад
Dan E. yes
@RoboP
@RoboP 7 лет назад
Actually yes, because Buu is a character that changed in the Buu saga as we saw, once Evil Buu split apart from him. I mean strength wise he's roughly on SS3 level don't forget that.
@RyuKaguya
@RyuKaguya 7 лет назад
he also decapitated babadi and ate dabura in fat form i think that's pretty important XD
@DrCoeloCephalo
@DrCoeloCephalo 7 лет назад
I like characters that are strong but look dumb/funny.
@slickchick5811
@slickchick5811 7 лет назад
Yah, I don't get it either. Like Buu is this great character you can't get enough of or something. Most of the time he's in a fog and doesn't seem to know what's going on.
@seikojin
@seikojin 7 лет назад
I think Buu will (and it is hinted at in the exhibition match) be picking up evil traits again and Uub will be playing an important role in getting Buu to a new level as a character. Maybe by merging Uub and Buu. I would like to think his sleeping is the hibernation where he is recharging his power.
@FallingDownAyar
@FallingDownAyar 7 лет назад
...everyone. I mean, *everyone* was talking about the tournament's roster and mentioned endless about reviving Frieza or Cell to fight in the tournament. Did you people honestly didn't expect Toei to hear ya and make the appropriate changes. What did you people think was going to happen!?
@mugmellow
@mugmellow 7 лет назад
YahiroYamaha true, but no one was talking about replacing buu
@bashamd96
@bashamd96 7 лет назад
People also wanted Roshi out since he's basically dead weight and most people agreed Cell would be more interesting and fitting character to replace anyone
@aldairvii4534
@aldairvii4534 7 лет назад
@MasakoX Hmmm... what if Majin Buu falling asleep is a result of Toriyama's personality? You mentioned in earlier videos that Toriyama said in an interview that when fans began to predict "this is going to happen, this character will do this or that" Toriyama would straight up kill them, or make anything in his power for it not to happen. But more importantly, this might be quite unlikely, but if Dragon Ball Super is not going to rewrite the end of Z, Freezer's appearance in the anime exactly during this arc would not only make more sense, but would also be mandatory for Super's end to match Z. How about what Frieza asks Goku as his condition to join the tournament of power, is to let him ask a wish to the super dragon balls? Pheraps Frieza will ask the dragon balls for Goku and Bills' meeting to have never happened, and therefore making Goku's access to Super Saiyan God form impossible, this would only make sense if we think about the Ressurrection of [F] movie. Freezer woul have been stronger than Goku and achieved his vengeance if they never had access to Super Saiyan God. So for him, this would be the best outcome, he wouldn't mind Bills to be still around because Bill's a lazy God of Destruction and sometimes he actually agrees with him. This would save all of the Universes from destruction in the hands of Zeno, this would also prevent the whole Zamasu arc, and would also mean Frieza's failing to be resurrected (because plot convenience). It would make the perfect reboot and a plot twist we would not expect. Also keeping on mind that both movies before Super came into existence influence it greatly, Bills telling Goku about the 12 Universes (we all knew it would be a tournament, to be honest, making Goku go from Universe to Universe challenging the Gods of Destruction was something very unlikely to happen) and Frieza being stopped from achieving his goals just because Bills came into contact with the Z warriors. Pheraps Bills would sense Frieza's power and he would stop him personally without the Z warriors noticing it, since they wouldn't be able to sense the Ki of the Gods. Well it's only one of many theories, but if we think about this, it makes Frieza's appearance less annoying.
@rararoyo
@rararoyo 7 лет назад
I'm sorry Masako, I like you and all, but you're really annoying me with you constantly blaming Toei for any major thing that happens in Dragon Ball Super and the sad part about this is, you're not the only one. You and everybody should know by now that Akira Toriyama is the one who created Dragon Ball Super and he outlines the story for the main arcs and lets Toei and Toyotaro fill in the gaps for the anime and manga respectively. Which means they only control HOW things happen and not what happens in Dragon Ball Super, the only scenarios that are done by Toei and Toyotaro alone are things that don't effect the main plot, e.g; all the slice of life episodes, two-parters and mini arcs in the Super anime are all fully scripted by Toei Animation (you know this as they don't appear in Toyotaro's manga adaptation).
@soilderzero2982
@soilderzero2982 7 лет назад
did you even watch the video the whole way through. he clearly say's that Akira Toriyama can also mbe to blame at 7:55.
@cantthinkofaname1990
@cantthinkofaname1990 7 лет назад
Around the 4:58 mark you mentioned that Super Buu and Kid Buu only needed a few seconds of sleep and normal Buu needs to sleep longer. Well, if I recall correctly, Satan did say that Buu usually only needs a few seconds of sleep to energize himself, similar to the other Buu's, but every once in a while he sleeps for two months. Seems like those quick naps only last for so long before Buu needs to actually sleep. I'm not covering for Toei, I just wanted to point out that little tid-bit of info.
@vonb8984
@vonb8984 7 лет назад
What is toei doing? I dunno, ask Toriyama.
@missingnile
@missingnile 7 лет назад
8:35 "I want to end it no matter what" *Looks again* " *I WANT YO END IT NO MATTER WHAT* "
@Avatarbee
@Avatarbee 7 лет назад
Am I the only one that doesn't really give a crap about Buu?
@tevani1
@tevani1 7 лет назад
Avatarbee nope, i dont really care about Buu either
@cankurt71
@cankurt71 7 лет назад
You are not alone
@Coid
@Coid 7 лет назад
I don't care about him, but if he's going to get screen time, he should at least be done properly.
@slickchick5811
@slickchick5811 7 лет назад
Not even remotely interested. Has no personality. He's just silly childlike and weird. In dbs, that's pretty standard.
@CalciumChief
@CalciumChief 7 лет назад
If I were to do Buu waking up I'd do it just randomly and lazily as him falling asleep. Something like "Oh, he just woke up", or a catchy tune come on the radio, or there was a mosquito buzzing around, or being more serious, just give him a Senzu bean.
@Minnzorr
@Minnzorr 7 лет назад
You use a lot of terms like "we", when you should be saying "I". I'm not saying people don't agree with you, but you're doing a lot of assuming that the whole dragon ball community is following your opinion, while for me, and a lot of others I know, it is not.
@TheColonelKaijuVT
@TheColonelKaijuVT 7 лет назад
I wonder if Masako realized the pun in calling the "Buu falls asleep right before a tournament" gag tired. But in all seriousness, this bugs the crap out of me. It bugged me in the Universe 6 arc, and leaves me beyond frustrated now. If it absolutely had to be done, I wish they had gone someone else to fill Buu's spot, as I think Frieza had his moment in Resurrection F. I would probably have been okay with it if they went with Cell (Goku could appeal to Cell's ego to prove he's not only the most perfect being on Earth, but all the universes) or, dipping into characters that aren't from filler like Pikkon, I think it would be awesome to add Dabura, who was only evil while under Babidi's control. HIS STONE SPIT WOULD BE SO USEFUL FOR EASY RING OUTS!
@Jaybaybay2838
@Jaybaybay2838 7 лет назад
I get your gripes but it gets kinda old when you keep complaining about spoilers but you are also looking for spoilers and it is something you can easily ignore if you actually wanted to avoid. Especially during episode reviews since, well the spoilers aren't in the episodes or apart of the content itself in any way but you still complain about spoilers from Japanese TV guides or what someone said on Twitter
@LainK1978
@LainK1978 7 лет назад
This wasn't a matter of him looking for Spoilers, I don't look for them and know about the spoiler he mentions. If you even just normally follow any of the reviews or just talk to people about Super anywhere you knew exactly what was coming. It was so far out that anyone who is doing what MasakoX does is going to have heard or been told exactly about it multiple times.
@shupasopni
@shupasopni 7 лет назад
Yeah plus it isn't just a matter of him getting spoiled, but the spoilers being out there themselves to spread for others to get spoiled.
@nihilisthuman6784
@nihilisthuman6784 7 лет назад
That was just something like: "I'm going to give you the best food ever and then hits it out of your hands IN SOME SH.T! thank you . Like your vids MasakoX :D
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