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@dwightkrauss
@dwightkrauss 6 лет назад
Really nice once again. You have no idea how much it warmed the heart of a true hack when you touched that collet. Thank you for putting all the time and effort into this!!
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
lol
@indet1957
@indet1957 6 лет назад
i have learned so much from you over the last few years. do want t say my wonderful wife and really loved your Christmas gift video. Thank you once again, you are awesome David T.
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
Thank you, I'm glad you liked it
@kevCarrico
@kevCarrico 6 лет назад
great tip on getting 12 positions from a 6-sided piece - fantastic! thank you!!
@bentontool
@bentontool 6 лет назад
I always learn something new watching your videos...
@martinfeux32
@martinfeux32 6 лет назад
just got my fisrt lathe 1 week ago a atlas model tv54 mann im eating your video like crazy your are a machine tanks for all that information your giving . tanks you from quebec
@rescobar8572
@rescobar8572 6 лет назад
Thanks Lyle! As always, I love your videos!
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
Thank you very much
@elsdp-4560
@elsdp-4560 6 лет назад
THANK YOU...for sharing. Always learning something new.
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
Hello
@awhs1964
@awhs1964 6 лет назад
The message on your coffee cup is a noble sentiment, admirably expressed. Tom
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
I'm glad you appreciated it
@1musicsearcher
@1musicsearcher 6 лет назад
As always, a useful instructional video. That drill chuck adapter sure is slick.
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
Thank you for watching
@petercunningham4000
@petercunningham4000 6 лет назад
Thanks for another great video,- I have learned a lot this past year or so watching your videos. I am a complete novice when it comes to using machine tools like the lathe or milling machine.
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
Thank you Peter, I am glad you like the videos
@MrUbiquitousTech
@MrUbiquitousTech 6 лет назад
Thanks for that Mr. Pete, looks like that tool will be especially handy for model work. And you're right of course, the machining steps are handy in all work. That Edge tool post chuck is pretty slick; looks like those guys make good products from what I've seen so far.
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
Thanks for watching. They are good people and edge technology
@chieft3357
@chieft3357 6 лет назад
I always like to watch how you do or make something. I see small but interesting tips on how something should work and the reason it works. Thanks and have a great day.
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
I'm glad you like my videos
@prenticeemler7709
@prenticeemler7709 6 лет назад
Loved the video great info ,I made a tool post drill looks just like tap and die holder you made you made me want to improve on the tap and die holder I made awhile back ,liked the flutes better than knurlng job I did on mine ,keep up the good work I really enjoy your teaching .
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
Thank you for watching
@engelbob8402
@engelbob8402 6 лет назад
Neat project Mr. Pete. A great way to start my day seeing you on my email notification list. Speaking off the cuff gives such fun comments as: "Exactly 1/2 inch or thereabouts." Love it.
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
Glad you like your humor, it goes over many peoples heads
@steph2211
@steph2211 6 лет назад
Nice tool mrpete i like the detail in all of your videos it's a pleasure to watch you work
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
Thank you very much. It must be cold in Canada
@steph2211
@steph2211 6 лет назад
mrpete222 yes it is.best to stay inside the house and watch tubulcain
@dragman377
@dragman377 6 лет назад
Thanks Mr Pete, another cool video.
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
Thanks for watching
@MOOTech
@MOOTech 6 лет назад
Instead of the set screw you could just cross drill it the same size or maybe just slightly smaller than the cross hole originally in the tap wrench and press the original handle in which would keep it into the aluminum bit, give you the option to use the grip milled into the aluminum for the smaller sizes and have more leverage for the larger sizes.
@DonDegidio
@DonDegidio 6 лет назад
Hi Lyle, Slick design for the smaller taps. For those of us without a mill, could use a piece of heater hose glued on as a grip surface. Noticed you were cutting into the collet slightly.
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
Good idea with the heater hose, it just looks a little too much like a hillbilly work
@bardee1
@bardee1 6 лет назад
Great Video. Lots of good info.
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
Thank you
@mikenixon9164
@mikenixon9164 6 лет назад
Good video. Nice tool from edge .
@stevenacarter77
@stevenacarter77 6 лет назад
Outstanding video; thank you.
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
Thank you very much
@MaturePatriot
@MaturePatriot 6 лет назад
DRO distraction. - I like the dual purpose one you made long ago. Flute it. - Great video.
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
I think I will flute yet. There is no grip on it when my hands are oily
@freddydoe6347
@freddydoe6347 6 лет назад
Yes you should flute it.
6 лет назад
I was going to say the same thing the older one is far better.
@pravado81
@pravado81 6 лет назад
Great video. Throw a spring in the shaft end hole and you will have a tubilcain spring loaded tap follower just like your other video.
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
Good idea, I did not think of it
@RosaStringWorks
@RosaStringWorks 6 лет назад
Great tool.
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
Thank you
@trentsworkshop2960
@trentsworkshop2960 6 лет назад
I have really enjoyed your videos. I purchased a 9 inch logan lathe a couple of years ago and have been using your videos as a guide for learning. I recently purchased the Palmgren lathe attachment as shown in your prior videos. It has worked wonderfully. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and keep the videos coming.
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
Thank you for watching, as you know I have two Logan Lathes
@grahameblankley3813
@grahameblankley3813 6 лет назад
Brilliant, from Coventry England
@badjuju6563
@badjuju6563 6 лет назад
I like the double ender tap & die holder. flute it and add threads for screw in handles for larger sizes. I don't like the carriage mounted mounted chuck holder for centre drilling, but it makes sense for offset from centre drilling. Thanks Grandpa.
@douglasbuhr5741
@douglasbuhr5741 6 лет назад
looks good. only change I would make is drill out the end for a roll pin in between the tap holder and the tool but the set screws might slip before breaking a tap.
@scottbenauer1189
@scottbenauer1189 9 месяцев назад
Nice project I’m gonna make one thanks
@frenchcreekvalley
@frenchcreekvalley 6 лет назад
You sneaky devil, you! What a great idea for making the 12 flutes!!!
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
🤙
@stime6472
@stime6472 6 лет назад
Thank you Mr Pete!
@marksleeper9385
@marksleeper9385 Год назад
very nice your the best
@nowayjerk8064
@nowayjerk8064 6 лет назад
you said the project is not imported but the project has to interest me a bit to get me in the grove :)thanks for sharing !!
@g00167015
@g00167015 6 лет назад
Gotta get me one of those coffee mugs 😁 Great video content as always Lyle
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
That was a gift to me, from the man that gave me the Sterritt cap
@erikisberg3886
@erikisberg3886 6 лет назад
I made a smaller version of this for "sensitive drilling" and tapping in the lathe that I use a lot. A small chuck may be better for tiny taps than a tap wrench since the tap can slip in the chuck and save the part. My VBK brand set for taps and dies is very similar to Your design and they have a fairly coarse knurl on them. I find that I get sore hands when tapping to many larger threads and have considered smoothing them down. Perhaps just polishing off the knurls a bit would give the right grip. Or maybe flute them.
@nevetslleksah
@nevetslleksah 6 лет назад
MrPete you don’t have enough T handled tap wrenches, I think you need to buy a few more😊 Time to go to some more auctions. Thanks for making the video, I always enjoy your projects.
@MrPatdeeee
@MrPatdeeee 6 лет назад
As always GREAT!
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
Thank you
@johnbrookbank2969
@johnbrookbank2969 6 лет назад
yep thanks for the info !
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
Thanks for watching
@BenButler1
@BenButler1 6 лет назад
Great content!! Thanks.
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
Thank you very much
@pjhalchemy
@pjhalchemy 6 лет назад
Glad to know you are still human Mr. Pete. ~¿@ Liked your old one with the reverse die holder. Also seems to me one could leave a shoulder at the bottom of the thru hole and put a 1"L x ~3/8 spring with loose turns in the bottom to aid like a spring tap holder. Most small taps have only an ~1"-2" of thread depth so a ~4" length would give enough throw for that. Basically size it for the lathe and your hand. Another thought would be make a 1" Die Pill that goes where the tap holder goes with a .25-.375 thru hole...couldn't do long threads but would be a versatile kit for small stuff. Thanks for the creative thoughts and Video Mr. Pete.
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
Those are both good ideas
@pjhalchemy
@pjhalchemy 6 лет назад
No ignorance...good question. It was my bad with old school terms (a disc shaped piece that drops into something else). Pills used to be flat discs..like Alka Seltzer or AirBorne tablets . Every thing could be done from 1 end. That is have a 1" die holder (like his old one) and on the same end make a "Pill" that was 1" OD with a .625 hole and a flush set screw attached to the end of the Tap Holder. Can't remember my thinking on the .25/.375 thru hole¿ Insert the assembly into the "Die" end of the holder and tighten the Pill and Tap holder with the same screws used to hold the die in. Could even notch the pill to help lock in place with the die holder screws. Hope that made sense.
@johnstrange6799
@johnstrange6799 6 лет назад
I made myself one today out of scrap. I used a section of broken vise screw as the grip. Thanks for the inspiration and the know how to let me kind of know how too. :)
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
That was a good idea for the grip
@johnstrange6799
@johnstrange6799 6 лет назад
Thank you. If you'd like to see my version it's scaled down to under two minutes. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Beed2d_nWi0.html&lc=z22qtj2pywaifhevkacdp434oigoduukmf0jc15hoytw03c010c
@kevinwillis9126
@kevinwillis9126 6 лет назад
Thanks for sharing sir..
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
Glad you liked it
@rfcarlson1
@rfcarlson1 6 лет назад
Thanks. Maybe the recess you bored in the back of the old one you made could be used for small dies (for stock that fits through the 3/8" hole. the How about adding a couple for tommy bars? That might give you a little extra leverage for tough materials.
@grahammctygue724
@grahammctygue724 Год назад
Thank you
@aserta
@aserta 6 лет назад
Yep. The smaller the tap, the smaller the handle should be. I made myself something similar out of some HDF discs and an old tap wrench. In correlation with the tap size, i use the appropriate disc (for example, an M4 tap will have a OD disc with 5 cm an m8 will have a 10 cm one, all discs are 2 cm thick and with ridges for grip).. Haven't broken a tap in quite some because of this.
@stxrynn
@stxrynn 6 лет назад
I wouldn't sweat the new marks on the collet. They were uniform. You were working accurately, that's a plus in my book. (wink)
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
lol
@FredMiller
@FredMiller 6 лет назад
I would never tell my shop teacher you made a mistake! LOL
@mwechtal
@mwechtal 6 лет назад
stxrynn Yep, that there collect has a special feature!
@stxrynn
@stxrynn 6 лет назад
Marked by the master!
@gilbertodiaz-castro626
@gilbertodiaz-castro626 6 лет назад
Nice project, I think I'll make one later. I did find something curious about the stability of the chuck. After seeing all the steps taken to align it to the center of the chuck bore it is odd that at time stamp 8:33 when you were to start drilling the .500" size hole the tip of the drill bit actually picked up about .125" before it entered the pilot hole, is this normal? Could have you machined the splines the hole length of the handle by using a long stud and nut to just tighten the whole thing onto the hex collet holder? After all you were taking light cuts... Just a thought.
6 лет назад
Thumbs up nice tool holder, instead of the flutes could you say put a left hand thread then over cut with a right hand thread to get a knurl effect without a knurl tool as you say doing it with knurl tool does not always come out right.
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
I never tried that method
@johnflower8648
@johnflower8648 6 лет назад
If you look down into a chuck type tap wrench you will usually find a smaller size tap wrench.
@markcrotty5094
@markcrotty5094 6 лет назад
Good stuff thank you
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
Thanks for watching
@ronaldcrowder404
@ronaldcrowder404 10 месяцев назад
Because I don't have a dro I reference off of fixed jaw and bottom of the vise when doing multiple operations such as this
@1969elder
@1969elder 6 лет назад
Mr Pete, I’ve always heard that a mill was the only machine that could duplicate itself. Is that true? And if so, I know it would be a massive undertaking but I was wondering if anyone had ever attempted it and if they videoed it and shared. Just a thought sir! Thank your for educating us.
@SeanBZA
@SeanBZA 6 лет назад
Nice Diresta Ice pick there. Collet can be fixed easily just by slightly turning it down till the witness marks vanish again. Seeing as it is not hard steel should be easy, or just use them as index marks.
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
Yes
@altonwhipkey2411
@altonwhipkey2411 6 лет назад
Like a screw machine holder, float holder to put on center
@rustymachineshop9456
@rustymachineshop9456 6 лет назад
Nice job mr pete where i went to school in southern Illinois their was not much demand for machinist they didn't teach much machine shop classes mostly welding electrical and ag classes would have been nice to have had a mr Peterson shop teacher but that was back in 1974 my school was next to metropolis school district home of superman we hated superman
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
I am in the industrialized north. There were a lot of shop glasses in the old days. We love superman up here. I have been to Metropolis and seeing the big statue
@rogerpetrella5993
@rogerpetrella5993 6 лет назад
Glad to see you doing real machining videos that most of us want instead of videos about your 3D printer toy.
@orangetruckman
@orangetruckman 3 года назад
If I were to buy a milling machine without her input, I’d only have a milling machine…that’s it! But I like your thinking 😉
@FredMiller
@FredMiller 6 лет назад
Cool project. A possible modification would be to use the male taper end of an old MT2 (or what ever size your tail stock takes) drill bit. Saw off the old drill bit then drill a 3/8" hole in the MT taper and hold the 3/8" rod with a set screw. No need for a drill chuck. This would reduce the overall length of the tool if you have a lathe with a short bed.
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
Good idea. In fact I do have a larger die holder that is mounted on a number three Morse taper
@FredMiller
@FredMiller 6 лет назад
My Tail stock tap holder inspired by your video! Thank you so much for continuing to mentor us!ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wpTNtaRcaGw.html
@mikekabot1747
@mikekabot1747 6 лет назад
How about putting a spring in the holder and making the shaft captive
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
Good idea
@kejay74
@kejay74 6 лет назад
Lyle, Thanks for the excellent video! I do have one question, however. Did you perform any compensation for the very slight diameter reduction created by the first set of flutes when using the edge finder for the centering of the second set? Granted, it is only a very small amount, perhaps a couple of thousandths. As always, I do enjoy your videos and do my best to glean every bit of info I can from each. Best regards!
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
I was careful, to edge find in a spot that was not fluted
@billygragg218
@billygragg218 10 месяцев назад
If its a aluminum handle you can use a table saw to cut flute
@MIGASHOORAY
@MIGASHOORAY 6 лет назад
I,m 75 in march looking forewords to start making mistakes well at 75 we are expected to . My Doctors driving medical examination coming up this week my record 60 years of no insurance claims cut no ice with the Dept of Transport. Whatever the outcome I will still drive.
@johnswanson866
@johnswanson866 6 лет назад
I was finally able to locate your video again and could tell you removed it the opposite direction. I still can't drive the retaining pin out the correct direction. Do you think it is possible to drill out the pin? I have replacement pins but don't think me with my cheap table drill press would be a good idea to try to remove the old pin. Local gunsmith isn't willing to try it so I'm certainly reluctant. Suggestions?
@michaeldewalt8786
@michaeldewalt8786 6 лет назад
Would it be possible to put a morse taper to eliminate the drill chuck holder?
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
It sure would, in fact I did that years ago with a much larger die holder I made. It shortens the whole thing up nicely
@NBCRGraphicDesign
@NBCRGraphicDesign 6 лет назад
LOL..... the world now needs a Combo Mill.... 1/2 milling machine & 1/2 futon.... keeps the whole house happy!
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
lol
@carver3419
@carver3419 6 лет назад
...and the futon and the milling machine would probably be made in he same factory ....
@freddepauw
@freddepauw 3 года назад
made a similar unit for threading die's
@R2.0
@R2.0 6 лет назад
Would there be any advantage to using an MT shank on the shaft instead of straight? I have an Atlas 618, and the tailstock takes an MT1, which would be an appropriate diameter and would eliminate the length of the chuck.
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
Absolutely, use a taper. In fact my larger die holder is based on a number three Morse taper. It can be seen another videos I think
@R2.0
@R2.0 6 лет назад
mrpete222 thanks, and thanks also for what you do. There's a reason all the other RU-vid machinists look like they want to genuflect when they mention your name.
@73superglide62
@73superglide62 6 лет назад
Just going 2 tell Pete, u said need it
@russelallen5342
@russelallen5342 6 лет назад
Handy! Hey, where is your spill proof oil can?
@kejay74
@kejay74 6 лет назад
I was wondering the same....???
@johnswanson866
@johnswanson866 6 лет назад
Sorry this is off-topic but I don't know how else to reach you. You once did a video on repairing a Stevens Crackshot 26. I have my Dad's and would like to make it operational again, replacing springs and the firing pin. I have bent 2 punches trying to remove the firing pin retaining pin driving left to right as I was told. Now I suspect that was bad advice before I try anymore, do you recall what direction you drove it out? Thanks for the great video and directions on ordering parts for the rifle.
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
That is so long ago, I have no idea which way I drove the pen. I wouldn't think it would make any difference, sorry
@johnswanson866
@johnswanson866 6 лет назад
Thanks Mrpete. I had to drive a long way but finally found someone today who will mill it for me. John
@Sprank900
@Sprank900 6 лет назад
....Where did you get the coffee mug? That would be fun to have.
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
It was a gift
@TheUlrikkaul
@TheUlrikkaul 6 лет назад
Regarding the futon talk i this video. You can not emagine the noise my wife made when i broke her the news that i had bought a Colchester Student lathe. And it wasent even a new one.
@thedivinehammerswoodworks1895
@thedivinehammerswoodworks1895 6 лет назад
Mr. Pete gets visited by Mr. Bozo, in his shop, you need to get a no Bozo sign for your shop like Tom Lipton has. LOL! :-D
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
lol
@Blackcountrysteam
@Blackcountrysteam 6 лет назад
Another interesting and practical video, if as you suspect the face of the collet is soft could you not just dress it in the lathe ? A second suggestion you said you did not have a stop on your mill why not make one :-)
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
Actually, I do have a stop. It had to be removed in order to install the digital readout
@allsortsofinterests1
@allsortsofinterests1 6 лет назад
I have to ask, did you speed up the video in editing or have the full pot of coffee before filming? There was a lot of pep in Mr. Pete today!
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
It's strictly running on caffeinated coffee
@tcarney57
@tcarney57 6 лет назад
Yeah, I was wondering about that myself. I thought it was just me.
@tedsykora1858
@tedsykora1858 6 лет назад
It has never dawned on me that you can get 12 rotational positions from a 6 sided holder.
@jolllyroger1
@jolllyroger1 5 лет назад
I saw the collet on the first pass just face it off its fine.... Such things occur lol.... You could have made a stop with a clamp but with dro often we skip that.... BTW you never showed how you found the edge then center.... Personally I would have just taken a light pass then adjust to please the eye because the eye is so good at such things besides its not critical just has to look right
@johnbower
@johnbower 6 лет назад
It was not your fault the milling cutter decorated the collet, we were the ones watching that end, :)
@rcworks9762
@rcworks9762 6 лет назад
Oh no! Mr. Pete has gone flutey.
@eddiekawecki2510
@eddiekawecki2510 6 лет назад
Nice video. I'm curious, What would you have said to your student if one of them put those mill marks in the collet? LOL
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
I would've sent them off to reform school
@thomascannady3855
@thomascannady3855 11 месяцев назад
❤😊😊😊
@nathanroberson
@nathanroberson 6 лет назад
That large drill was so low below center, I could see it lift as it entered the hole. This must have made quite a taper down the hole.
@yomama5785
@yomama5785 2 года назад
that poor collet! Shame on you Mr Bubba! :) ty for the video
@RichardHeadGaming
@RichardHeadGaming 6 лет назад
Speaking of taps, we can see you tapped that thumb nail. Proof you actually do things lol.
@PeopleAlreadyDidThis
@PeopleAlreadyDidThis 6 лет назад
Just order a Fu Ton mill, solve both problems.
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
lol
@phoenixcrp
@phoenixcrp 6 лет назад
What about the thumbnail smash? Any ice packs hurt during the production of this video?
@altonwhipkey2411
@altonwhipkey2411 6 лет назад
even Mr. Pete screws up sometimes,
@SuperBowser87
@SuperBowser87 6 лет назад
Could I 3D print it......rim shot!!
@kejay74
@kejay74 6 лет назад
O' Heck yes!
@kejay74
@kejay74 6 лет назад
But you may be limited to 0-80 thru 8-32 because of the strength of the plastic...Not much torque available if printing less than 100% fill.
@arborvitian
@arborvitian 6 лет назад
Oops. Gremlins changed yout setup while you were dtinking coffee....
6 лет назад
Meu like 439
@convertz28
@convertz28 6 лет назад
Careful cutting a flat on the centering rod to captivate it, you would loose the ability for it to rotate freely!
@tcarney57
@tcarney57 6 лет назад
Well, he might have meant turning the middle of the rod down to create a dog bone that could still turn but be captured by a set screw.
@theonlyalan731
@theonlyalan731 6 лет назад
Poor collet🙁
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
lol
@JonesAndGriesmann
@JonesAndGriesmann 6 лет назад
Now you're starting to sound like your old students..... "It wasn't my fault!"
@franksalterego
@franksalterego 6 лет назад
"Somebody" diddit.
@daleburrell6273
@daleburrell6273 6 лет назад
21:40 If they don't like it, they don't have to eat it!!!
@scottlundy257
@scottlundy257 6 лет назад
Thank Heaven you did not 3D print it perhaps the next one
@machiningbasics1729
@machiningbasics1729 6 лет назад
Ah well a cheap collet was sacrificed to the cause
@josephwilson6651
@josephwilson6651 6 лет назад
you're only human besides now you've got an excuse to attend another tool auction to find the replacement!!
@mrpete222
@mrpete222 6 лет назад
I am looking at auction advertisements even as I type this comment
@Teunbaartman1
@Teunbaartman1 6 лет назад
nice video.......useless edge tool
@Dickard66
@Dickard66 6 лет назад
Have they changed your medication or something? This video lacks your usual layed back attitude and humour. I much prefer your previous volumes (I have watched literally hundreds and learned so much). I hope all is well with you, and wish you good health. x Richard. Cornwall, UK.
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