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Making and Tasting the COLDEST Substance Known - Icilin 

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In this video I am making one of the coldest/iciest/mintiest substances known, Icilin. It is a super-agonist of the TRMP8 ion-channel which is a receptor on our mucous membranes that gives us the cold feeling from temperature and food such as mint. The compound is not found in nature and is fully synthetic, there are no other known natural compounds that induce a colder feeling. Supposedly the compound WS-12 should feel colder but is less potent, which I will make later to compare.
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@mytoasterwentflying
@mytoasterwentflying 5 месяцев назад
tasting your own chemicals just like the good ol days
@y33t23
@y33t23 5 месяцев назад
Always remember the quote: "If it don't contain nitrogen, I'm snaccin"
@sathis5073
@sathis5073 5 месяцев назад
After 9/11
@charlesnathansmith
@charlesnathansmith 5 месяцев назад
He casually mentions that the researchers did too. It's hard to resist with something like that
@multiarray2320
@multiarray2320 5 месяцев назад
​@@y33t23 uranium: am i a joke to you?
@y33t23
@y33t23 5 месяцев назад
@@multiarray2320 the context there was organic molecules, I can very well live without heavy metal poisoning
@EddieTheH
@EddieTheH 5 месяцев назад
Pretty chill molecule.
@jakelancaster5889
@jakelancaster5889 5 месяцев назад
Oh how does it feel to be the funniest person on earth
@14-3-3
@14-3-3 5 месяцев назад
pretty cool too
@kylesmithisawesome
@kylesmithisawesome 4 месяца назад
Man, thats just cold​@jakelancaster5889
@Tathanic
@Tathanic 5 месяцев назад
Mix it with Capsaicin, Bromelain & Malic acid and apply to tongue.
@user255
@user255 5 месяцев назад
Why malic acid? Anyway sound kinda irritating!
@Ibaraki_DX
@Ibaraki_DX 5 месяцев назад
Are you trying to make the tongue implode, open a portal, or what
@chemistryofquestionablequa6252
@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 5 месяцев назад
@@user255it’s what candy companies use to make stuff sour
@antares8826
@antares8826 5 месяцев назад
Instant death
@user255
@user255 5 месяцев назад
@@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 They use many other organic acids as well. I thought you have something more specific in mind.
@helldad4689
@helldad4689 5 месяцев назад
OUR BOY BEAT THE LIT YIELD % EVERYONE!!! CLEANEST CHEMIST ON RU-vid #1!!!!!
@drsolo7
@drsolo7 5 месяцев назад
Lmao
@phobos1963
@phobos1963 5 месяцев назад
I mean if you get everything from Sigma obviously you’re gonna get a purer synthesis
@aeriumsoft
@aeriumsoft 3 месяца назад
you mean ligma baldrich
@enz8191
@enz8191 5 месяцев назад
11:40 I like the fact that you use gloves to handle the product, but at the same time you spread it on your skin 🤣
@Jokke13th
@Jokke13th 5 месяцев назад
You have the coolest taste for chemistry subjects for these videos. I enjoy your work. Keep it up!
@youraveragerobloxkid
@youraveragerobloxkid 5 месяцев назад
Hehe cool
@TPK_MAKG
@TPK_MAKG 5 месяцев назад
Hehe taste
@Dank_Lulu
@Dank_Lulu 5 месяцев назад
Can't wait to try this on my mucous membranes!
@MadScientist267
@MadScientist267 5 месяцев назад
All of it
@mlgsamantha5863
@mlgsamantha5863 4 месяца назад
chilly foreskin
@rjnash2610
@rjnash2610 3 месяца назад
I'd rub it on my D before a good F.
@benmcreynolds8581
@benmcreynolds8581 4 месяца назад
Random but I really hope someday a talented chemist will be able to discover a pain killer that DOESN'T cause negative physical reactions once someone stops using it. If someone can discover that it could genuinely change the world and improve so many peoples lifes. People that have never experienced physical withdrawals don't fully understand. Someone can fully be mentally ready but no matter what you do, physical withdrawals are completely unavoidable and it makes you feel like an utter failure and our society has a very misunderstood negative perspective on physical withdrawals and physical dependency. I truly believe if some scientist could discover something that doesn't cause physical dependency but helps with pain relief, then I really think it could positively impact the world.
@fburton8
@fburton8 5 месяцев назад
I'm surprised you experienced such a mild taste from the DMSO. I got a tiny drop of it (lab grade) on my skin and a minute later there was a disgusting onion/garlic taste in my mouth. I also visited a veterinary barn where one of the equine patients with septicemia/toxic shock had been given 20cc IV DMSO and the whole place stank to high heaven for the rest of the day.
@Chemiolis
@Chemiolis 5 месяцев назад
DMSO itself shouldn't have much of a direct taste when pure, it just contains sulfide impurities that make it taste a bit like dirty vegetables. I didn't have an aftereffect of garlic taste, I think that could be genetic
@fburton8
@fburton8 5 месяцев назад
@@Chemiolis This was DMSO from Sigma-Aldrich which they claim is ≥99.9%. Yeah, it could be genetic as you say. I remember someone telling me that sensitivity to HCN is genetic. I can always tell immediately if someone in the lab has been using it, even when they can't smell it themselves. Mind you, the smell receptors also quickly desensitize to (or are killed off by?!) cyanide.
@Head_Stander
@Head_Stander 5 месяцев назад
we should do a genetic test based only on the compounds you can smell and taste, then we could elect the genetically-best chemist in the world xD
@Kenionatus
@Kenionatus 5 месяцев назад
Apparently "Part of the DMSO is transformed to the volatile metabolite dimethyl sulfide, which gives a characteristic garlic- or oyster-like smell when excreted through the lungs", according to Adverse reactions of dimethyl sulfoxide in humans: a systematic review (10.12688/f1000research.16642.2).
@fburton8
@fburton8 5 месяцев назад
@@Kenionatus Interesting, thanks!
@oubliette862
@oubliette862 5 месяцев назад
I've got an exercise in awful for you to try. Isolate whatever is in a green persimmon, the small variety, that instantly dries the mouth and even the teeth, and taste that. I've never experienced something else that could make my teeth dry.
@b3dubbs72
@b3dubbs72 5 месяцев назад
Probably immature tannins
@KyleJones734
@KyleJones734 5 месяцев назад
First time I tried a persimmon I thought I was having an allergic reaction from how bitter it was and how it made my mouth dry. I only found out after googling that the it was because I ate a unripe one. I still haven't tried to eat a ripe one out of fear of getting that bitter taste again.
@jimmy_flaps
@jimmy_flaps 4 месяца назад
Khat (Catha edulis) does this too.
@eliasdraper1143
@eliasdraper1143 4 месяца назад
@@KyleJones734 Persimmons are bitter to you guys? I’ve always found them super sweet
@KyleJones734
@KyleJones734 4 месяца назад
@@eliasdraper1143 if they are not ripe, they are super bitter
@claysweetser4106
@claysweetser4106 5 месяцев назад
I wonder if the high cost of certain chemicals (like Icilin) is due to lack of economy of scale. That is, you're essentially paying some other chemist to make your specific order just for you, rather than paying some amount from a much larger batch (possibly made by the same chemist).
@Chemiolis
@Chemiolis 5 месяцев назад
Very likely. There is not really a market for it so vendors can also get away with charging ridiculous prices.
@adrianpip2000
@adrianpip2000 5 месяцев назад
To some degree, yes. But also, it's a useless chemical to a chemist, who could easily make it themselves anyway. So the only ones who would be interested in the molecule are molecular biologists, and those people generally don't need more than a few mg to do an experiment, so suppliers are more than happy to charge the same price for 10 mg that one would for 10 g if they were selling to a chemist.
@claysweetser4106
@claysweetser4106 5 месяцев назад
@@adrianpip2000 I suppose, given its properties and uses, one might also be paying for USP-quality chemicals as well (as opposed to non-USP-quality ones, which I assume are cheaper to make).
@dinadaughtry8993
@dinadaughtry8993 15 дней назад
Would think that makers of things like icy hot or bengay and other topical analgesics would be interested in that chemical
@vooooooooooooo
@vooooooooooooo 5 месяцев назад
Your explanations of chemical transformations sound like some strategy war game steps.
@anotherone4669
@anotherone4669 5 месяцев назад
I was eyeballing this chemical for a while now, cool to see a video about it
@Thaumius
@Thaumius 5 месяцев назад
0:50 example of Sigma Aldritch being Ligma-Baldritch
@margodphd
@margodphd 5 месяцев назад
Sigma-Eldritch, of ELDRITCH HORROR PRICES 😂
@gafrers
@gafrers 5 месяцев назад
Fantastic. Always enjoyable and well explained
@0pvo0
@0pvo0 5 месяцев назад
Surely ill buy chemicals from a stranger online to taste! ;) Your tasting is well documented, great stuff
@bugabateinc971
@bugabateinc971 2 месяца назад
You are the best practical organic chemist on you tube. I need about 2 or 3 lifespans to get really good at chemistry.
@geordifrere
@geordifrere 5 месяцев назад
Very cool heterocyclic chemistry! More of that please! For the dihydropyrimidinone reaction, maybe you could have avoided the initial precipitation and vigorous HOCN gas evolution (apparently poisonous) by adding KOCN into the AcOH solution of your starting material which would allow for a controlled formation of HOCN. Then add HCl to drive the elimination of water. But again, love the target molecules you're making. Keep it up!
@Chemiolis
@Chemiolis 5 месяцев назад
The initial precipitation was not part of the plan! I would have just added it in portions into stirring liquid, but no. Either way it was fine, this reaction is very fast.
@trapicecreamy6871
@trapicecreamy6871 5 месяцев назад
Man I really love this Kind of videos
@prdprdprdprdprdel
@prdprdprdprdprdel 4 месяца назад
I kinda want to try using it in cooking.. Putting a tiny bit into some refreshing fruit deserts during the summer sounds banger...
@notsmoothie
@notsmoothie 3 месяца назад
Seems like it would be difficult to dissolve in stuff 🤔
@user-cd7mq5lp3q
@user-cd7mq5lp3q 26 дней назад
@@notsmoothie It should dissolve in something with fats in it. Idk, like ice cream that makes your mouth cold for an hour after you ate it or something...
@MrAngenos
@MrAngenos 5 месяцев назад
Nice concise video, thanks!
@girafferadiation
@girafferadiation 5 месяцев назад
damn i didn't know u were chill like that 😳🥶
@bubblitzbubba3501
@bubblitzbubba3501 5 месяцев назад
You make awesome videos!!! ❄❄
@Grak70
@Grak70 5 месяцев назад
That stock footage of the lab guys is hilarious
@thomasrussell4674
@thomasrussell4674 4 месяца назад
Please synthesise conolidine! No lab will make it, it's too complicated they say. It's not illegal, it's a calcium channel modulator and ack3 blocker, it's a fascinating molecule. Con-ol-idine. It comes from Tabernaemontana Divaricata plants. There is a published write up for its synthesis. It uses unusual metal salts in the synthesis.
@jamesmnguyen
@jamesmnguyen 5 месяцев назад
It's 6am, I should be sleeping.
@user255
@user255 5 месяцев назад
Yeah, that happens.
@laslaw9887
@laslaw9887 2 месяца назад
Oh, finally i got it... I ll open it, taste and measure nmr tomorrow
@rehanmohammad5841
@rehanmohammad5841 5 месяцев назад
Best vid ever
@Zaekk
@Zaekk 5 месяцев назад
Ive always wanted to try icilin
@kitkakitteh
@kitkakitteh 4 месяца назад
Erythritol is similar, I think. That slight “coolness” is gives to chocolate makes me think it activates the same receptors.
@AnarchoAmericium
@AnarchoAmericium 5 месяцев назад
i'm surprised this isn't used more, given how easy and cheap it is to make
@williambarnes5023
@williambarnes5023 4 месяца назад
Sounds like a good ingredient to use in my limonada.
@BoyKhongklai
@BoyKhongklai 5 месяцев назад
I'm glad I found this channel because nilered was getting boring with barely any uploads except shorts. Bye nilered, hello Chemiolis 😊
@andersjjensen
@andersjjensen 5 месяцев назад
Don't forget Extractions&Ire.... if you don't mind chaos energy.
@b3dubbs72
@b3dubbs72 5 месяцев назад
Nile blue too
@theginganinjaofficial
@theginganinjaofficial 5 месяцев назад
​@@andersjjensengarage chemistry will always have a special place in my heart
@BoyKhongklai
@BoyKhongklai 3 месяца назад
@@b3dubbs72 Everything Nile, I'm done with. Nowadays he's living off old vids I guess. As soon as he moved out of his parents garage, he went south.
@b3dubbs72
@b3dubbs72 3 месяца назад
@@BoyKhongklai his vids take a long time to produce because is projects have grown in scope. He’s put some banger long format vids in the past few months.
@muffinconsumer4431
@muffinconsumer4431 5 месяцев назад
Screw spice tolerance, don’t talk to me until you got your cold tolerance up
@IsaacMyers1
@IsaacMyers1 4 месяца назад
I would be very interested in the development of a “cold sauce”, or the opposite of a hot sauce. I’m thinking that would be a perfect application of icilin because it doesn’t have to taste like mint.
@stevengill1736
@stevengill1736 5 месяцев назад
Good old DMSO - always enjoyed how quickly the taste of oysters appears when it touches skin. Usually advised to use 85% aqueous since it's hard on your skin if it's pure....(some people use it as a topical analgesic, but the readily available MSM (methylsulfonylmethane) apparently does the same thing....did you know that MSM was briefly a controlled substance in California?
@gigogrozni
@gigogrozni 5 месяцев назад
It's interesting that making double bond at @10:00 does not go towards the creation of the long conjugated system of double bonds.
@christopherleubner6633
@christopherleubner6633 5 месяцев назад
Cool chemistry you got here 😂 🥶
@JonBattams
@JonBattams 5 месяцев назад
I have actually vaped ws24, but am very interested to try icillin!
@Sanutep
@Sanutep 5 месяцев назад
my org chem lecturer would scream that you deportonated at the enolisable positions but did not show the mechanism as proceeding through formation of enolate followed by carbonyl reformation to kick off diethylamine, instead going directly to the ejection xD
@ferretyluv
@ferretyluv 4 месяца назад
That’s a lot to scream in one breath.
@SimonBlokky
@SimonBlokky 5 месяцев назад
Could it be that the reaction of acetophenol is driven by anchimeric assistance (aka neighbouring group participation) of the carbonyl oxygen? This would form an oxocarbenium intermediate, which is very sensitive towards nucleophilic substitution and would definitely allow this specific substitution to occur at mild conditions.
@divyanshujha6088
@divyanshujha6088 5 месяцев назад
how like how for the first time he has made more than the literature says
@VividFlash
@VividFlash 5 месяцев назад
Byproducts? Greasefat? 😂
@notusingmyname2634
@notusingmyname2634 3 месяца назад
That would be awesome to add to drinks just so they taste cold even if they arent
@sirkayks2304
@sirkayks2304 5 месяцев назад
A little suggestion: using your Eppendorf pipette for highly corrosive and volatile liquids like conc. HCl will dramatically decrease its lifetime because it can corrode the mechanical parts inside. At least that's what's been told during my undergrad.
@JamesHoss-hr1jq
@JamesHoss-hr1jq 4 месяца назад
Need to put this in my pre workout…
@rollbot
@rollbot 4 месяца назад
i wonder if 'chewing gum' companies like extra/wrigleys/orbit etc would love this stuff to be encapulated in some kind of nanoparticle to make a chewing gum that would last forever or at least much longer than anything out there right now.the cold peppermind and wintergreen sensation is what everyone loves and associates with the flavor lasting a long time. so interesting!
@blahsomethingclever
@blahsomethingclever 5 месяцев назад
I want to taste this molecule!
@livedandletdie
@livedandletdie 4 месяца назад
I mean, it reminded me of the toffees I used to make at home, with Chili and Menthol Flavor... I called them the Hot and Cold. Very strange feeling eating them.
@siestafrog
@siestafrog 5 месяцев назад
now make toothpaste :)
@mgritsch
@mgritsch 5 месяцев назад
How is „potent“ vs „strong“ defined? How can something be stronger but less potent?
@mduckernz
@mduckernz 5 месяцев назад
This is the difference between receptor affinity vs efficacy - think of affinity as how well a key fits in a lock, and efficacy as how far the lock turns
@NightmareRex6
@NightmareRex6 5 месяцев назад
danm i wish i had a lab so i could make it and sell it at half or quarter price. how much would it cost to setup making it on average since its easier than most other things?
@user-tv6sw3vt9q
@user-tv6sw3vt9q Месяц назад
Would you be willing to cover RB-64 at some point (salvinorin derivative compound)?
@thux6
@thux6 5 месяцев назад
Hi Chemiolis, great vid. I was wondering, where do you get your reaction mechanisms from? Do you draw them yourself? Thanks!
@Chemiolis
@Chemiolis 5 месяцев назад
I draw them myself and usually let someone else check them. If I don't know it I ask someone. Often it is not readily found online and we draw the most reasonable/likely explanation.
@Hammerbruder99
@Hammerbruder99 5 месяцев назад
I usually draw reaction mechanisms with ChemDraw, which I licensed with my uni account.
@adamorylski8195
@adamorylski8195 5 месяцев назад
@@Chemiolis What software do you use to draw structures?
@adrianpip2000
@adrianpip2000 5 месяцев назад
@@adamorylski8195 Can almost guarantee he's using ChemDraw with the ACS 1996 template
@Chemiolis
@Chemiolis 5 месяцев назад
@@adamorylski8195 Chemdraw 21
@heuxheux
@heuxheux 5 месяцев назад
This is straight up alchemy
@bharatmadho3742
@bharatmadho3742 5 месяцев назад
Taking "got ice in my veins" to a whole other level
@Freya58202acab
@Freya58202acab 4 месяца назад
Have you tried making candies with it? Like heating it up with a little bit of water and a lot of Saccharose (and maybe some glucose) till all the sugar melts Then letting cool down in small pieces (basically making menthol candy on steroids) The this could distribute it rather well in the sugar and make it easier for the rezeptors to detect
@ianlupardus4569
@ianlupardus4569 2 месяца назад
Okay but how do you predict the way molecules will rearrange themselves within the right conditions with the right reagents? How do you ensure the chemical bonds as intended? Is it simply chance, followed by a gleaning of the intended chemical?
@chilling_at_pontiff
@chilling_at_pontiff 4 месяца назад
ICEEE 🥶
@WaffleStaffel
@WaffleStaffel 5 месяцев назад
Heat? Very interesting. I have some menthyl methyl lactate, I wonder how this compares. I'm guessing the heat is because both propylene glycol and DMSO are causing a heating sensation when they pull moisture from your mouth, or are actually heating up from exotherm.
@jaimeortega4940
@jaimeortega4940 5 месяцев назад
Good job and interesting molecule!
@hallowacko
@hallowacko 5 месяцев назад
@NileRed should do this too
@truthdoesnotexist
@truthdoesnotexist 5 месяцев назад
they sell propylene glycol at pharmacies as a pure powder to treat constipation
@nicksingh7408
@nicksingh7408 5 месяцев назад
Quick question, how do I learn analytical techniques and literature like this?
@JakeDogg-RIP
@JakeDogg-RIP 5 месяцев назад
Is it really chemistry if u don’t taste the products?? 🤷‍♂️😉🍻
@user-hg1cx2yj8g
@user-hg1cx2yj8g 5 месяцев назад
Can you involve the papers that you used?
@nunyafunyuns
@nunyafunyuns 3 месяца назад
I want an Icilin vape!
@impo997
@impo997 4 месяца назад
bro skill issued literature OMEGALUL
@gigitirambolone3932
@gigitirambolone3932 4 месяца назад
Where can I buy Icilin? Thank you
@JacobCzxD438
@JacobCzxD438 3 месяца назад
Mom can we get NileRed? No we have NileRed at home NileRed at home:
@EvincarOfAutumn
@EvincarOfAutumn 5 месяцев назад
Is it not lipophilic? I was a bit surprised when you said “this leaves me with one option” and it wasn’t an oil.
@Butcherbg
@Butcherbg 4 месяца назад
Well that was a good peek into the world of chemistry, My probably (at least to the best of my own perception, grades aside) least understood school subject, that I've never further build upon after end of High School. Considering how most of what is going on inside humans is affected by exactly stuffs like that... Imagine what the people that understand, understand this science do... and can do... Like that was a week long process by a single person to make an bubble gum compound on steroids, now multiply that by 100ths of staff members of well funded government orgs operated for years upon years, having all the previous research and know how available. Well ~or private.
@scrotiemcboogerballs1981
@scrotiemcboogerballs1981 5 месяцев назад
Great video thanks for sharing
@Archer690Channel
@Archer690Channel 26 дней назад
if menthol is used on drinks to make them fresh, would it be viable to make an icilin soft drink?
@tomflanagan878
@tomflanagan878 5 месяцев назад
I think a really cool project for you to consider is making ferrari pigment red
@robertstratton6444
@robertstratton6444 5 месяцев назад
I was stoked to see this and immediately wondered "what about the WS- compounds?" Interesting historical note, the WS in WS-5, WS-12, and WS-23 alludes to "Wilkinson Sword", a shaving products brand that evolved from a gun manufacturer in Great Britain started around 1775. Apparently they wanted better cooling sensation compounds for things like shaving creams and discovered some that are now in chewing gum and pretty much everything else. Which brings me to the question: Why doesn't Japan approve amides as food additives?
@Chemiolis
@Chemiolis 5 месяцев назад
I think the problem with a lot of amides is that they can enzymatically hydrolyse in the body to give back the amine that is usually toxic.
@chanheosican6636
@chanheosican6636 5 месяцев назад
DMSO with WS 12 may have potential as a pain killer. However the enhanced solubility of DMSO may lead to toxicity. I don't know if it been greatly researched? I plan to show how to make DMSO, copper nanoparticles and spearmint essential oil extract.
@cleanshowcases7752
@cleanshowcases7752 3 месяца назад
This is like the fentanyl of spearmint
@johanhallgren
@johanhallgren 5 месяцев назад
I don't understand what you mean by 2.5 times stronger when it at the same time needs 200 times less of icilin than menthol? Please explain?
@Chemiolis
@Chemiolis 5 месяцев назад
200 times less required to activate the receptor, and the cold feeling is 2.5x stronger
@condor2279
@condor2279 5 месяцев назад
Solomon's Preparation
@thedoctor2102
@thedoctor2102 5 месяцев назад
Propylene glycol. Interesting. Could it be used in vapes?
@mduckernz
@mduckernz 5 месяцев назад
WS-12 is used in vapes. This might be able to be used too, but with a nitro group being present it might not be very heat stable? Just at a glance, WS-12 looks like a more stable molecule that won’t polymerise or decompose readily under heating, unlike this Icilin
@netram2000
@netram2000 13 дней назад
Get John Cena to promote it when your store goes online. I-Cilin is the new Bing Chilling. 🍦❄☃️
@multiarray2320
@multiarray2320 5 месяцев назад
is it safe to randomly taste a chemical without doing some tests before? i dont know anyzhing about chemistry but to me it seems unsafe/dangerous. wasnt one of the chemical something with cyanide?
@Chemiolis
@Chemiolis 5 месяцев назад
No, you have to analyze it or know for sure that it is fine. In this case I did a simple but effective test and found it only contains the desired product. It is also important to take into account tasting vs ingesting, I always spit it out afterward. Besides, the amount is extremely small, even if my product was 95% pure, it is unlikely to cause harm. There aren't many compounds that are toxic enough to case harm with several milligram exposure. Experience and understanding the reaction and product is also ideal. With that, you can tell that there is no reason to suspect anything dangerous. There are more factors to take into account, such as literature precedent (the discovers tasted and ingested it too) etc.
@multiarray2320
@multiarray2320 5 месяцев назад
@@Chemiolis thanks for the reply. what test have you done to make sure its just the desired product? (or have i missed it in the video)
@Chemiolis
@Chemiolis 5 месяцев назад
I did TLC but I will probably also do NMR later
@James2210
@James2210 5 месяцев назад
Do you take suggestions? I think it would be cool to have a video detailing the differences between food grade/lab grade/industrial/military etc chemical preparation.
@ff05t81t
@ff05t81t 3 месяца назад
What happens when you mix capsaicin with icilin?
@fordmodelT1957
@fordmodelT1957 5 месяцев назад
🥶🥶🥶
@LawpickingLocksmith
@LawpickingLocksmith 5 месяцев назад
Canada is watching....
@glitchyglitch1235
@glitchyglitch1235 5 месяцев назад
this guy spills less without a funnel than chemdelic with one
@alcyonecrucis
@alcyonecrucis 5 месяцев назад
DMSO is tastable???
@hammerth1421
@hammerth1421 4 месяца назад
Icillin probably is so inaccessible because menthol is dirt cheap and easily available.
@Luca-wt4dn
@Luca-wt4dn 5 месяцев назад
Did you characterize it? Maybe the yield is so high because of some unsoluble impurities
@Chemiolis
@Chemiolis 5 месяцев назад
Clean with only one spot on TLCs with Cerium phosphomolybdic acid stain. I don’t see a reason to expect impurities here either. Precursors wash out earlier and Icilin is cleaned easily in the end with its poor solubility.
@Luca-wt4dn
@Luca-wt4dn 5 месяцев назад
​@@Chemiolis idk, just strange that a "add everything and mix step" resulted in a x2 yield compared to literature. Maybe they didn't break the solid precipitated mass of the last passage, so that mixing was suboptimal
@MarcusAu3relio
@MarcusAu3relio 5 месяцев назад
I would’ve done a column before tasting it just to be sure 😂 Also, is it legal to sell chemicals for ingestion? Is there a license for that? Do you have to use food grade precursors? Or is it okay to as long as you don’t call it a food/flavouring agent/medicine? I’m genuinely curious, because I have an interest in the niche flavour compound market. Thanks
@margodphd
@margodphd 5 месяцев назад
​@@MarcusAu3relioThat heavily depends on country and state/local laws. To sell stuff marked for human consumption you need certified lab, certified precursors and to have the entire process reviewed,and then have analysis done on each product batch - that's in EU, and I assume the US has equally if not more stringent regulations. Which is why nobody bothers, same with cosmetic ingredients.
@popescucristian8978
@popescucristian8978 5 месяцев назад
you should try drinking cold water after tasting it to get the full experience
@rdizzy1
@rdizzy1 5 месяцев назад
I assume at some point soon, one of the chewing gum companies will use this in their mint gum.
@markedis5902
@markedis5902 5 месяцев назад
Yellow chemistry
@derenjoy3r
@derenjoy3r 5 месяцев назад
WS-23 is one I hate, its frequently in E-Liquids and the cold sensation is waayyyy to strong in the throat it actually hurts breathing in after if you vape a good amount
@mduckernz
@mduckernz 5 месяцев назад
I have accidentally ingested some of the pure material and it was BAD, like it went way beyond cold, into just pure pain 0/10, would not do again
@derenjoy3r
@derenjoy3r 5 месяцев назад
@@mduckernz haha how did you come to do that? Was it from coolant for E-Liquids or how did you come across it? The feeling really is horrible though. Especially if its in your throat, every breath hurts
@funnyiestmemes
@funnyiestmemes 5 месяцев назад
What if we put it in a cig
@vaishakhchauley8841
@vaishakhchauley8841 4 месяца назад
now make a chewing gum with it
@bagwithmilk
@bagwithmilk 3 месяца назад
Bro shulgin'd it😭
@Ben79k
@Ben79k 5 месяцев назад
How many weeks until somebody tries to vape this stuff
@user-cf6yr3pd8m
@user-cf6yr3pd8m 5 месяцев назад
Да, хорошие синтезы автор проводит.!
@StephanBuchin
@StephanBuchin 5 месяцев назад
So you basically made 240.000$ worth of icilin 😎
@infinityphoenix8613
@infinityphoenix8613 5 месяцев назад
Chemistry is very interesting, but in indian high schools we have to just remember organic name reaction and whole s,p,d,f block elements reaction. We learn 99.5% Chemistry theoretically. Teacher asks Chemistry practical question svia theory 😔. No one gives importance to practical and experiment...
@chemistryofquestionablequa6252
@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 5 месяцев назад
That’s too bad, the practical side is the fun part!
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