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Making Biodiesel from Sunflower oil 

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In this video i am making biodiesel from sunflower oil through transesterification. Support my channel: / chemiolis

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@mgrzeg
@mgrzeg 2 года назад
You could use regular diesel instead of toluene as a solvent - You would not have to distill off solvent… and also some addition of regular diesel (10-40%) is much desirable from the engine POV (pumps, injectors…) first step - oil dehydration is also redundant - this oil is anhydrous - transparent… cacl2 or similar will definetely not make it dryer… dehydration after washing is also not necessary - prolonged , low rpm stirring with water (2hrs or so) will do the work - You will end with clear liquid which means that water content is really low… this thing can be dehydrated just by passing through column filled with relatively small portion of dry 4A molecular sieves to the second container
@GordLamb
@GordLamb 2 года назад
I think the soot is mainly from not reaching the correct stoichiometric combustion ratio. If you can atomize the biodiesel it should burn without any soot. Great video! :)
@Dragonrider616
@Dragonrider616 Год назад
Exactly what I was thinking too, just in different words. Agreed 100 percent.
@maerten9517
@maerten9517 2 года назад
Thanks- great video. I made biodiesel a year ago just to try it and I ended up with a lot of soap and biodiesel, but nothing I would risk putting in my engine.
@bitsnpisces3623
@bitsnpisces3623 2 года назад
During reaction it is important to keep all amount of moisture away...preferably by using sodium hydroxide in. When moisture is present you will get soap in your final product.
@tracybowling1156
@tracybowling1156 2 года назад
If we didn't have you, I could not learn all these interesting facts. Well, I could. But you make it easy and so much fun! Great work!
@bromisovalum8417
@bromisovalum8417 Год назад
Transesterification is such a neat reaction. I've used it once to make methyl laurate from cocos fat. I used sodium metal and methanol to generate the NaOMe without the hassle of dealing with water.
@tahallium
@tahallium 2 года назад
I love your procedure and explanations
@phantomzone2571
@phantomzone2571 2 года назад
You can get biodiesel by acidic path too: it involves a methyl carbanion.
@madkem1
@madkem1 2 года назад
BF3 works great but isn't economical.
@nocnylis5904
@nocnylis5904 2 года назад
Your chanel is pure gold
@frankmercer7009
@frankmercer7009 Год назад
Nicely done. I liked your fire tests. Very informative.
@AngDavies
@AngDavies 2 года назад
Cool science, though given the location of the majority of world sunflower oil production at the moment, and alternative feedstock would probably be necessary :/
@Chemiolis
@Chemiolis 2 года назад
That's true, but sunflower oil is not really used for biodiesel production in general, i used it because at the time of buying it was the cheapest. From what i've read, rapeseed oil seems the most common for biodiesel production.
@bedlaskybedla6361
@bedlaskybedla6361 Год назад
Biodiesel can be made from fat from rendering plant. I worked few months in company using this feedstock for biodiesel production. Final product needs to be vacuum distilled in the end.
@andrewjuby6339
@andrewjuby6339 Год назад
I had a friend in college who would collect used frying oil from restaurants to make his own biodiesel.
@rafaelthetall
@rafaelthetall 2 года назад
the sooth comes from incomplete burn, probably caused by low temperature air and because of lack of oxigen. it is 'pure carbon' that had not enough air and temperature to combine with oxigen. you probable get less sooth if burnt in a 'storm' kerosen lamp, either hor or cold blasted, (the flat wick and pre-heatin of the air helps a lot) or an argand lamp (tubular wick) (petroleum industry worker ;) )
@ShainAndrews
@ShainAndrews 2 года назад
Hard to take you serious when you don't get the nomenclature correct.
@cielvague
@cielvague 2 года назад
Shain Andrews > what is incorrect in what he wrote?
@ShainAndrews
@ShainAndrews 2 года назад
@@cielvague sooth... oxigen... kerosen... Then there is the entire position that is incorrect. Soot, is the result of a rich fuel to air ratio condition. Air temperature is not relevant.
@McNas7y
@McNas7y 2 года назад
Not sure how this video came up in my recommendation, but great video, glad I found it 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@ommhatre3645
@ommhatre3645 8 месяцев назад
I made bio diesel using coconut oil thinking that the shorter chain fatty acids would result in a much easier to burn fuel due to higher vapour pressure and yes it worked. It burnt very easily. I didn't use any toluene but used salt water which separated the soap quite well and the separated biodiesel was washed with water and dried using anhy. CaCl². Fun fact - the biodiesel smelled like fake pineapple scent due to esters of some fatty acids (maybe the esters of 7-8 carbon chain acids are responsible which are present in coconut oil)
@ommhatre3645
@ommhatre3645 8 месяцев назад
Also i used potassium hydroxide as the catalyst which i think made it easier for the soaps to be separated. The flames were almost soot free and burnt pretty clean.
@alexanderdickie1982
@alexanderdickie1982 2 года назад
Love your videos dude 👍 Did you add any to a diesel car? It's legal in some countries, including UK
@Chemiolis
@Chemiolis 2 года назад
I didn’t, i’m unsure of the purity so it’s probably not good for the system. Besides, i don’t have a diesel car to use it in :’)
@mattbanks3517
@mattbanks3517 2 года назад
I don't care if its its illegal, why not use it?
@petevenuti7355
@petevenuti7355 2 года назад
@@mattbanks3517 many years ago I was watched a RU-vid video where this guy claimed it was cost effective at home to use electricity to make pyrolysis oil from plastic as diesel fuel. The video was taken down. I found out it was because posting the video got him a $25,000 fine for putting untaxed fuel in his commercial vehicle and driving it on the highway. Even Lawyers don't know All the laws, and laws are written ambiguous so they can be twisted and reinterpreted such anyone can be guilty of anything, so privacy is best, just act without selfish greed and avoid hurting others and don't talk to anyone about what you do.
@johnsmith-sp6yl
@johnsmith-sp6yl Год назад
@@Chemiolis buy a 2003 ford f250 with a 7.3l dual overhead v8 factory turbocharged diesel engine immediately.
@andersjjensen
@andersjjensen 11 месяцев назад
Regular diesel and even high grade lamp oil burns with sooty flames too, so I think everything went according to plan.
@DasIllu
@DasIllu 2 года назад
When i was shopping recently i saw the a litre of sunflower oil now costs €5. A litre of Diesel costs ~€2. What do i need to do to make the Diesel compatible with my salad? ;-)
@quint3ssent1a
@quint3ssent1a 2 года назад
Sunflower oil consists roughly 3/4 of biodiesel by volume (simple math: it makes 3 moles of biodiesel to 1 mole of glycerine, so 3/4), so, without all other things you put into it... yeah, it's worth it only when you have access to cheaper than dirt oil (like some dudes who make it from used deep fryer oil).
@MrLawlimjoe22
@MrLawlimjoe22 2 года назад
Awesome video as always!
@azxde9266
@azxde9266 2 года назад
Thank you for the great video!
@benjiunofficial
@benjiunofficial 2 года назад
Can also be done with ethanol instead of methanol, but it is more difficult.
@hardwareful
@hardwareful 2 года назад
Hate to break it to you but you might need to make a new video. "How to make sunflower oil from biodiesel" :|
@GodlikeIridium
@GodlikeIridium Год назад
The sooty flame is because of the low oxygen content, not hydrogen. In an engine, with enough air (containing oxygen) added, it won't burn making so much soot.
@atrumluminarium
@atrumluminarium 8 месяцев назад
Can glycerol be decomposed into methanol? It would be cool to be able to feed the waste glycerol back into the reaction as methanol and it kind of seems like it's something that should be dooable, but I'm no chemist
@oliveratkin7850
@oliveratkin7850 2 года назад
This is so cool!
@CDCI3
@CDCI3 Год назад
Wouldn't acid catalysis be preferable? 1) Conversion of FFA in the oil to the FAME (slight, likely insignificant benefit) and 2) Less likely to have soap in workup, so may avoid need for FAME solvent, so less solvent waste, no concentration needed, and smaller volume
@user-lm5yo3fy1g
@user-lm5yo3fy1g 6 дней назад
Can i use isopropanol instead of methanol?
@przemogoli8811
@przemogoli8811 4 месяца назад
Co potrzebuję aby oddzielić glicerynę
@globe2475
@globe2475 6 месяцев назад
Hello, if you put less than 500 ml of oil, can the reflux last 2 hours?
@bataalexander9703
@bataalexander9703 Год назад
If you want to make mono and diglycerides, could you use glycerol instead of methanol?
@contomo5710
@contomo5710 2 года назад
its scary to see you have the same font for the label printer and same looking bottles as i have
@rocknrollmanic
@rocknrollmanic Год назад
why not boil off the water? That can't be to hard can it?
@aniksamiurrahman6365
@aniksamiurrahman6365 2 года назад
What's the yield? And can you repeat the experiment with soybean oil and mustard oil and see how that pans out?
@GodlikeIridium
@GodlikeIridium Год назад
You can't really say that diesel contains lots of different compounds but biodiesel only contains one. They both contain only one group of compounds, but lots of different individual compounds. Diesel contains lots of different hydrocarbons, while biodiesel contains lots of different methyl esters of lots of different fatty acids.
@call.me.heisenberg6990
@call.me.heisenberg6990 2 года назад
05:04 60°C for a few hours. This is already more energy put in than you get out of it ^^.
@mans4104
@mans4104 2 года назад
Biodiesel is energy-intensive so it is not so "green".
@kinetic6208
@kinetic6208 2 года назад
I really like 2:00-2:55.
@madkem1
@madkem1 2 года назад
sunflower oil contains a lot of polyunsaturated fatty acids, namely Linoleic acid. Bet you that's your source of sooty flame
@biorotterdamforenergyconsu1241
Making Biodiesel from Sunflower oil
@AnneJan
@AnneJan Год назад
If you make a couple of liters, @ProjectFarm can test it against other fuels ;-)
@1stDz
@1stDz 4 месяца назад
Is glycerin good to use?
@alexanderchverkalyuk5726
@alexanderchverkalyuk5726 2 года назад
thanks for the video, what is the proportion for ethanol usage instead of methanol? I'm in Ukraine, and I have cheap sunflower oil and ethanol so would like to make some biofuel. But no luck for now.
@Humbulla93
@Humbulla93 Год назад
you can substitue methanol with ethanol at a 1 to 1 ratio
@nerd1000ify
@nerd1000ify Год назад
Ethyl esters is much more difficult, you require anhydrous ethanol which cannot be obtained by distillation (ethanol forms an azeotrope with water). Methanol is quite cheap industrially, so nobody bothers using ethanol.
@skeller90
@skeller90 Год назад
This reaction can be made using ethanol instead methanol?
@Chemiolis
@Chemiolis Год назад
Yes
@yourfuneral
@yourfuneral Год назад
where would you put the FAMEs in the eluotropic series, how good a solvent is it?
@urvhalt
@urvhalt Год назад
But, sunflower oil being 3 times more expensive... ??
@VinsCool
@VinsCool 2 года назад
Which vegetable oil would provide best results for the lower price? Are they mostly providing similar results?
@Chemiolis
@Chemiolis 2 года назад
They are all pretty much the same, so the cheapest oil or waste oil (like from frying) is probably the best.
@clintongryke6887
@clintongryke6887 2 года назад
Interesting.
@yetian4646
@yetian4646 Год назад
How how water and diluted HCl should I use to wash my biodiesel if I have about 250ml?
@marcoramirez7684
@marcoramirez7684 2 года назад
Was removing the water from the oil a necessary step? And if so, can the water be removed through distillation?
@Chemiolis
@Chemiolis 2 года назад
It's not really necessary, don't bother with distillation, it likely won't work.
@TheOpticalFreak
@TheOpticalFreak Год назад
Could you also use ethenol instead of methanol!?
@phil331
@phil331 2 года назад
cool channel
@williamabrahamsson2945
@williamabrahamsson2945 2 года назад
The amount of the chemicals? Like - how much of each to use per liter sunflower oil?
@s9josh778
@s9josh778 2 года назад
Cool. Can you do "Making fuel from plastics" next, then compare? Please :)
@CUBETechie
@CUBETechie Год назад
Do you test it with waste oil ?
@ZarawarKhan-gs8hr
@ZarawarKhan-gs8hr 6 месяцев назад
Hi bro need ur help regarding some project
@ZoonCrypticon
@ZoonCrypticon Год назад
Could you use ethanol instead of methanol, which is highly toxic, both if inhaled or through skin resorption ?
@Humbulla93
@Humbulla93 Год назад
of course you can use ethanol, you can even substitute sodium hydroxide with potassium hydroxide
@nerd1000ify
@nerd1000ify Год назад
The ethanol has to be anhydrous, so you must dry with molecular sieves.
@schautamatic
@schautamatic 2 года назад
I’ve made biodiesel from bacon fat. 🥓🥓😄😄
@ahmedmedhat6937
@ahmedmedhat6937 2 года назад
Can alkoxide produced by NaOH? I think this is possible only with sodium metal!
@rafael_l0321
@rafael_l0321 2 года назад
Water and methanol have approximately the same pKa, so a 1:1 equilibrium could be expected. As the methoxide is consumed, the catalyst OH- is regenerated and reacts with methanol again to form methoxide
@mikecorleone6797
@mikecorleone6797 2 года назад
I run pure sunflower oil, canola, vegetable oil etc in my truck.. my truck don’t care it’ll burn anything
@Nicba1010
@Nicba1010 2 года назад
Any suggested methanol sources?
@GMCLabs
@GMCLabs Год назад
Heet. Its a fuel additive thats basically pure methanol.
@alijahdejesus624
@alijahdejesus624 2 года назад
I use 1/4 gallon oil heated to 130 degrees, daslve ley powder 2 teaspoon, 6 fl Oz methanol.
@qxtr5853
@qxtr5853 2 года назад
Damn, rn in europe I'd rather make cooking oil out of diesel...
@antejl7925
@antejl7925 Год назад
Using fresh virgin oil is pure waste, old chip pan oil is good as some of it has has turned to peroxides which helps the combustion, and would be disposed of anyway.
@markkrawczuk1943
@markkrawczuk1943 Год назад
hey dude , proper diesel is far cheaper than sunflower oil,
@djalienprime
@djalienprime 2 года назад
I'm writing to you from the future. Due to russian war in Ukraine you better save your sunflower oil as diesel prices will look like a joke comparing to sunflower oil prices next autumn.
@kezakietuonaga8199
@kezakietuonaga8199 2 года назад
But these are not viable in the long run.
@astanic7201
@astanic7201 Год назад
Does u can try do it with calcium hydroxide Cat
@raus_mit_Islam
@raus_mit_Islam 2 года назад
Biodiesel destroys the engine
@chemistryofquestionablequa6252
@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 2 года назад
Biodiesel companies are a good source for cheap glacial acetic acid.
@mynameisZhenyaArt_
@mynameisZhenyaArt_ Год назад
to plant & collect the sunflowers, you still need some disel...
@Isaac-sf4zl
@Isaac-sf4zl 2 года назад
Bio-deez nuts
@ShainAndrews
@ShainAndrews 2 года назад
Figured there would be a resurgence of bio fuels. Might have to open my shop up again. Start tearing down engines after individuals play around with this tomfoolery. Wait till they see the price of common rail injection components. They can't drive enough miles and dodge enough road taxes to ever recover the cost of the repair.
@nerd1000ify
@nerd1000ify Год назад
Most common rail systems are ok with a little bit of it, my car can take up to 5% in the fuel according to the manufacturer. When I made some biodiesel as an experiment I made sure it was super clean then added it to my tank at 2% on each fillup. Took a while to use the full 4L I'd produced. I also tried adding a small quantity to petrol for a 2T outboard alongside the 50:1 premix of TC-W3 oil, but found it very unsatisfactory in that regard. Most of the biodiesel didn't burn and instead came out the exhaust as smoke. On the plus side, the 'vegetable' smell of the smoke did mask some of the usual 2T exhaust odor. Mixing with petrol in an air-cooled 4 stroke engine (my home-made 'webster' engine) had similar results, lots of vegetable smelling smoke out the exhaust, though on the plus side it did seem to serve OK as cylinder lubricant in that case (the engine has an open crank and the cylinder is usually drip fed oil). Fun side-note, biodiesel reacts strangely to brass or bronze parts if left in contact for long periods, creating weird greenish precipitates which I can only assume to be copper salts of fatty acids. I found this out as part of another experiment building a miniature diesel fuel injector. So anyone running a vintage diesel engine should be very wary of biofuel, lest they have to disassemble and clean their entire fuel system.
@pkdayma7942
@pkdayma7942 2 года назад
Muje chahiye koi ho to batao
@harshadpatel3179
@harshadpatel3179 2 года назад
अरे यहां पाम ओईल नहीं मीलरहा तो सनफ्लावर कयों बरबाद करे ।
@gregsmarth3581
@gregsmarth3581 Год назад
You're quite mad.
@Marco-dq1ik
@Marco-dq1ik 2 года назад
Oh come on, in Germany vegetable oil is already rare..
@knivesnico8775
@knivesnico8775 2 года назад
but how
@knivesnico8775
@knivesnico8775 2 года назад
how
@Tunkkis
@Tunkkis 2 года назад
How what?
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