Malcador Chokes Horus | A Warhammer 40k Comic Dub 

Is this conversation canon?

Macaldor : "Revealing the name of the Lost Primarch could affect the GW sales, Be Silent !" Horus : "Wat ?"

It's really sad to know that while the Traitor Primarchs betrayed the Imperium, they were at least remembered for their treason against the Man-Emperor of Mankind, but the Two Missing Primarchs are forever erased from existence.

The Last Council lends a lot more weight and context to Horus being infuriated that in the vision Erebus shows him of the future theres no statue of him and the other traitors. Knowing that a big symbolic part of erasing the missing Primarchs after they were [DATA EXPUNGED] was destroying their statues heavily implies that Horus read a lack of a statue of him and half of his Brothers in 40k as "The Emperor ordered us killed and removed from history once we were no longer useful" which is a much better reason for betrayal than just him being mad his legacy wasnt valued enough.

A lot of people view this as a 'badass' moment for Malcador but honestly this moment probably did more to tip Horus towards betrayal than anything.

Malcador when using Force Choke: "Be careful not to choke on your aspirations, Warmaster."

I'm really surprised none of the traitors ever revealed what happened to the two lost Primarchs to the public during the heresy it would be an incredible way to spread doubt among the imperial ranks

This is extra sad when you remember Horus was so nervous becoming Warmaster that Malcador gave him a sort of pep talk before the ceremony. And then...THIS, was their last real conversation.

"Later after that exchange" "Horus and half the Primarchs wage war against the Imperium" Malcador and Big E: Surprise Pikachu face Trazyn: Man how I wish I had a mouth so I could eat all that popcorn

That was ultimately what led to Horus Heresy. If it all were not nothing, if all this genocide and murder was Just to make Emperor a god, Horus would be heart broken. Horus was one of few primarchs that did not want to commit genocide against aliens. All the time during Great Crusade he kept repeating „Its for the future of humans (Greater Good Greater Good Greater Good)” and then Horus saw future, and all went to shit.

Betrayal is never from a enemy, but from a friend

It's the small things, small concessions, small slights, small pains that pave the road to damnation.

The books didn’t lean on this angle enough, imho Horus betraying the Emperor because he wants to avenge his erased brothers is a lot better than him being stabbed by a magic chaos blade and getting mind fucked into joining Chaos.

"Horus you know our rules... Your father has taught you this so many times and you have neglected to remember..." *"No girls allowed"*

When Malcador force-choked Horus for trying to speak the fallen Primarchs name, he made it abundantly clear how they meant to him or the emperor. I feel like that was a turning point for Horus, the first spark that would eventually made him turn on the Imperium.

Horus is very reasonable, i’m sure this little exchange will have no lasting affects whatsoever.

As someone who "lost" a brother and my family gives him the same treatment (never mentions his existence at all) i can relate to horus here If i was him during those visions i would get worried and furious knowing more of them would suffer the same fate

I really don't get why Big E and Malcador seemed to think they were too good for basic management work and employee appreciation. They - and the Imperium as a whole - could really have benefited from some leadership training. An average middle-manager of today is better at this particular skill than they were. I'm sure they thought they could predict everything and had everything well in hand, but they clearly underestimated the human factor. I kind of like that, since it's such a basic flaw that caused complete downfall.

For years I thought Horus had turn be a traitor for a selfish Gain . But it was not to be forgotten , not to treated as tool by the emperor ,he wanted to be love by the emperor for himself and his brothers. For that reason, I now understand him for his betrayal . The emperor has been betrayed everyone like he had betrayed the thunders warriors who have lay down their lives for emperor cause.

As I get older, and see the world as it is IRL, I understand the Night Lord's battle cry: "Death to the False Emperor."

As Malcadoe was choking Horus, Horus said, "M..Mal..al." Some people think he was trying to say Malcador, but it's not in his character to beg for mercy like that. I believe he was saying the name of his lost brother, Malal.

True gigachad isn't worried about being historical figure True gigachad just wants to see The Emperors dream realized

Horus said all the words needed to be said by those of us in that room that day…

The Emperor laid the ground work for man kind’s destruction with the gleeful help of Malcador. His arrogance gave the Chaos Dieties the opening they needed to do to Man what they had already done to the Eldar.

See now this is the shit that we should've seen when Horus was turning to Chaos. Instead we got whinny baby man who trusts strangers and betrayers too easily

It's honestly hilarious how bad Malcador and Anathema shit the bed on properly handling the worries and concerns of his sons.

The most unbelievable part of this is Alpharius walking around without his helmet.

Honestly the Lost primarchs should've been the reason for the heresy, or at least this moment should've started it

What’s even sadder about this is that Angron and Kharn were supposed to be the ones To alleviate the pain of these two, only to allow the butchers nails to destroy any chance of that happening.

Spectacular voice acting AGAIN! It was an honor to work on this project ;)

Big difference from the Lion who didn't give an f about how he was remember so long as the job got done.

Had Khan and Alpharius grown a pair and backed up their brother 40K would be a different world RN.

I know he's a fanfavourite and definitely a badass but sometimes I feel like Malcador isn't actually that good(? It's 40k so anyone being good is debatable). But this scene especially in full context paints him as a asshole who makes Horus fall faster for nothing.

The primarchs arrived. Upon moloch,a month later they gathered. Mortarion eyed the gathering carefully before looking at horus "I hope you have a good reason for why were here horus." "Under any circumstances id dissagree...but yes,what is this about horus?" Lorgar eyed. "The emporor..." Konrad said with uncharacteristic quietness. Dorn sneered. "You will be silent in our presence curze. Youve done enough." "Dorn,this is not the time for grudges." Horus said curtly. "I say otherwise,do you not hate curze for his actions,to me as well?" Horus shook his head to dorns rage. "You have a right to be angry. But curzes visions had a point. A point i now see. Father is coming. If you wont listen to me,at least let him speak." Mortarion was about to object,but it was neither the time or place. Defeated he eyed horus. "Then what does father want then?" "I called you all here because of what horus spoke to me of." Arriving was the emporor,constantin and malcador. Horus eyed his father but kneeled the same. "What did horus and you speak of?" Mortarion eyed the witch. The emporor thought long, before nodding. "Something i should entrust you all with." Magnus and perturabo eyed each other carefully. "Well. Lead on father." Magnus spoke. The primarchs and emporor arrived at the gate,the emporor turned and he spoke. "Tell me,what do you recall before you arrived on your home world?" Answers were mostly the same as they answered. But konrad spoke. "But we were made on terra. Had it gone your way,we would have stayed there. Then what of the chaos gods?" "Do not call them that. They are not gods. Not ones in the sense you think." The emporor showed a mini map like show of the warp. "These 4 creatures call themselves gods,vut in reality they are parasites. At 1st,i did not have the means to make you. Until moloch. I took my birthright from moloch,but at a cost. The neverborn believe they want to save you from me. When in reality they bay and hunger for your souls. As for what would happen...why dont you tell them,konrad." Konrad was shocked. But did so. "The galaxy would be in flames. I have seen it. Lorgar,you become the 1st heretic,dragging down horus with you. Mortarion,you fall to nurgle after betrayal and necares promise. Fulgrim,you kill ferrus and become your very opposite. And sanguinus...fair,fair sanguinus..." "YOU LIE! HOW DARE YOU KONRAD!" Storms teeth roared,but horus cought his arm. "Let me go brother." "This is not the time for rage to dictate your actions rogal. He speaks the truth. If you will not listen to him,then listen to father." "I...forgive me. my lord." "As he said,this would come to pass originally. But horus seemed to change." Lorgar eyed his father nervously. "If there are no gods,then what does that make you father? You are a god in all but name!" Neoth sighed. "Lorgar,i am this way through circumstances not my own. I stamp out religion because it has utterly destroyed man upon several ocasions. I make a inportance upon apperance for many reasons. But if you desire faith,then place that faith in neither gods nor daemons. But in humanity." Lorgar was silent...but nodded. "I...i will keep this in mind." "Then what of me father!?" Perturabo roared. "...i am sorry perturabo. I will help you with your problems. But please. Once we are done." Perturabo silently nodded. "Then what of me father..." Curze said. The emporor steped to curze. "I will do what i should have done upon nostramo." Dorn looked confused. "That being?" "This." The emporor put a hand to curze. His visions began to cease,yet not fully,as the darkness of his eyes faded to a more natural blackened brown. "So horus is the reason your being buddy buddy is it!?" Mortarion sneered in disgust. "...i will not ask for forgiveness mortarion. But i ask for you to not let horus be the reason for this. Even if i do not show it,i love all of you in some way. My many selves may be otherwise but i truely do love you all. Fulgrim nodded. Setting the laer blade aside he eyed the emporor. "...im sorry." "Come my sons...the galaxy awaits but...for once. Let us talk."

We were this close to finding out just the name of the lost primarch but old boy malcador just choked em out. honestly props to malcador, my guy looked at half the primarchs as spoiled kids.

If memory serves, the choke happened as soon as Horus was about to utter the forgotten Primarch's name

Imagine if the reason they deleted those 2 Primarchs from the record was because they were never alive and Malcador tried to hide it from everyone since it meant they failed. Or they lost them cause Tzeentch probably threw them into the dark voids of space outside of the galaxy.

What I like about this scene when horus entered that room with anger custodians teleported in that same room and ask do you need help and malcador says it's not needed

M: "who are we talking about?" H: "uh. . . . MY BROTHER!" M: "which one?" H: "IT. . . . A. . . . . HIM!!" M: "who?" H: "DAMN YOU!!"

Some people said Malcador himself is also one of many reasons for Horus to start to think about his loyalty, and turned Chaos. Malcador to this day for me is one mysterious figure, and I wanna see something or an event that would be relate to him in the futre.

id say its likely the Emperor would have gotten rid of them all as he did with thunder warriors, likely he would have made a second batch and just said they did all the crusading with him instead of the originals.

Chad Horus gives speech while Malcador the eversidepieced uses entire psychic prowess to give Horus a tummy ache.

You know you are initiated into the fandom when you start to resent Big E.

Horus: * is going to pronounce the names of his "lost" brothers * Malcador: you shall not say their names, I CAST *TESTICULAR TORSION*

Well Emperor did betray Thunder wariors.

It makes me wonder who the two missing primarchs were.

As much as I hate Horus for being a huge “pick me” boy. I genuinely love moments like this that humanize and bring his inner struggle to life

And thus, another reason for the Horus Heresy. Kinda sad how we know almost nothing about these two Primarch and their Legions, and I honestly cannot imagine something even worse then the Horus Heresy as a whole, what did they do to deserve being erased from history, yet still being remembered vaguely by their brothers? Magnus the Nerd did something wrong, and that's intresting because, pretty much almost everything we can think of, the reasons why the Second and Eleventh Legion are gone, the traitors did it in one way or another and they're still alive, under the control of Chaos of course.

One of the myriad of mistakes The Emperor and Malcador made. To say someone failed is fair, to erase him from living memory for that is not.

This feels like a really weird but honestly phenomenal take on Horus’ voice, I really dig it

Damn I guess humans are still being human

Emperor be dammed the VA for Horus was ABSOLUTELY AMAZING

Meanwhile in an alternate timeline: "You're right Horus, what I did was excessive and if you wish to you may hate me for it, if you wish to undo what has been done I will not stop you, because I trust you to make the decisions you feel are correct" Horus: Oh-uhhh whole speech kinda feels like a moot point now **And the Horus Heresy became the Lorgarian heresy which was quickly snuffed out by Horus but not forgotten because Horus wishes his brothers right and wrongs not be forgotten**

Big E- "Why are my lab rats talking?"

Funnily enough I'm sure this is part of the reason horus fell to Chaos. They preyed on one of horus' primary fears, his fear of being forgotten, just used and tossed aside. And Malcador outright said that could happen to him, Malcador, the second in command of the imperium, the guy that often speaks on the emperor's behalf saying this. The only thing that would've irked Horus more is if the emperor himself said it.

I love how Alpharius of all Primarchs was completely put off by what Malcador did. As it even to him, this was crossing a line.

Honestly had Horus not joined chaos and started a genuine civil war I’d say he’d be completely justified on a side note I would like to read a story about that where Horus is like the emperor is a dick he must be stopped and tells chaos to straight up get bent

While we don't know why the two primarchs were forgotten Knowing Emperor and Malcador, Horus was most likely in the right here

(Horus as he tortures Malcador with visions of the Vengeful Fury) Horus: Not so impressive now, Old Man.

Horus acended the steps to the study. The emporor floated to his feet after meditating,with the primarch entering minutes later. "Horus? I thought you were away." "I was. But i want answers. I want the truth." "...which truth." "You know exactly which one father. Moloch. The creatures of the warp who hunt our souls. Why is it not worth telling others?" "... sanguinus saw it didnt he. He told you. A galaxy in flames. Sound right?' "Yes. What is driving my brothers visions,what is going on?" The emporor was silent,yet horus eyes flared with rage. "If you will not trust any of the astartes or anyone else,then ive seen enough. I do not agree with the methods we must do." The emporor sighed. Then nodded. What was the golden armor of the emporors massive form faded. What stood before him,was a man. Eyes golden like the sun, hair darker still,wearing a mix of advanced armor and primitive wear. Neoth. Not a avatar or anything else. But him alone. "You wish for the truth my son? Then look. You want to see what i see? Feel what i feel? Then look." Horus fell to his knees at the sight of the tired man. Memorys flashed. Memorys of the past,of a good man trying to do what he can,his folly leading to disaster. The present,where all hell broke loose. And a myriad of futures. Releasing his grip upon horus he eyed him with a mix of frustration and anger. "You see why i am hesitant in showing you this?" Horus nodded slowly. "You trust nearly nobody save the custodes and malcador because of what happened. You did what you did because every other option was inpossible. I have one more question. Why do the neverborn bay for our souls?" Neoth sighed and calmed himself. "Meet me upon molech. Bring mortarion,magnus,curze,perturabo,lorgar,dorn and fulgrim. If you want the truth,then i will show you 1st hand. And do not make me regret this."

Aw man, you manage to make me like horus, Lets the galaxy burn!!!!!

One of the moments which really illustrated WHY the traitors turned against the Emperor of mankind

Malcador and by extension the emperor were cold bastards. For all that Malcador chides Horus for not knowing the struggles of the common man, how could he, an immortal with the power to destroy a primarch possibly understand that!? For all their talk of humanity they had mere scerics of it.

I actually remember reading somewhere that Malcador wasn't actually doing some force chocking stuff and was actually smoothing Horus's brain, as in, literally unwrinkling it

“I remember my Brother’s name Sigilite! It was….STEVEN!”

Yo, horus have a point

In False Gods, Horus is shown a vision of the creation of the primarchs by Erebus, and during it he stops and looks at the being in pod 11 sad that he’ll never meet his true potential.

But don't worry guys, The Imperium and the Emperor are the good guys I Promise. (Don't worry about the bolter behind your head, that's just for your safety.)🤫

*Malcador* '' Cease! '' *Horus* '' Harder uncle! '' *Malcador* '' Eeuhm...''

Honestly, he shouldn't have needed Chaos to turn traitor, this sort of thing should have been enough.

Almost Malcador, you almost end the heresy before it even started...

I’m just gonna go with all of 40 K is actually Malcador having his last moments as his skull is crushed in the palm of Horus’s hand, because it doesn’t matter how strong you are as a psychic. The guy who can see lasers, moving in slow motion is faster than you, and he’s going to squish you like a bug that is to say at no point should Malcador the Sigilite be a threat to any primarch he should just get slapped into paste

Fulgrim would probably say: "Hardeeer Daaaddy".

Only thing this comic gets wrong is Horus still stared him down as he was choking, even as his eyes turned red from blood vessels bursting, he never looked away, until he was allowed to breath again.

Imagine being a demigod craving validation for all the sacrifices youve made towards bettering humanity but looking at people like the guardsmen and thinking they're scum

Keep in mind Horus threw the first punch literally he punched his uncle straight across the room. And keep in mind he is a son of the emperor he's 9 ft tall and he punched an old man. Clean across the room Horus is also a Primarch and Space Marine. Do you have any idea what kind of force they can punch with. And this man this absolute boss malcador took a punch from. From a demigod got backup dusted himself off like Madara from Naruto and proceeded to choke the life from him.

Man I feel for Horus...

that ending card was smooooooooth. Good work on this one. I felt his anger.

I like seeing horus instead of FUCKING HORUS as the emperor would put it later.

Astounding how fast anger can change from hot rage to cold, patient, murderous intent.

“The emperor has betrayed us!” He did?!? “No….but are we just gonna stand around until he does?”

Me in this situation: "and buddy boy I am eternally grateful for your sacrifices." *gets shot*

I remember Malcador was nearly in tears while doing this.

We should get the guy who did Horus in the Audio Dramas to voice this.

It sucks when your tools pretend to have emotions.😊

I come back to this a lot.

Horus arrived on terra years later. Once malcador had time he eyed horus carefully. "So what brings you here horus? I hope this is not about...them." "...no. its not. ...and for that I'm sorry. Im here regarding another matter. ...but i believe this is better taken up with father,given he is the expert on the matter." "That depends. On what." "The creatures of the warp. Sanguinus told me. There are creatures in the warp, monsters beyond depravity that hunger for our souls." Malcador tensed. This wasnt right. Sanguinus told him? None of this was right. "...perhaps. but why bother your father when he is certainly busy?" "Because i want to hear the truth from him. No more lies. No more deception. I want to help. I want to do what is right." Malcador hesistated...his eyes went gold briefly then normal. "...beneath the palace. To the left. Go there in 10 terran hours." "So be it." To be continued

Seeing Leman's bloodied sword thrust in the dirt accompanied by the words "Crushed" gives me chills but also makes me deeply sad.

I read somewhere that the two missing primarchs have to do with the Rangdan Xenocides somehow. My best guess is that they allied with the Xenos and fought the Imperium, but that doesn't explain their legions getting wiped out too.

My conspiracy/headcanaon is that the two lost primarchs encountered daemons and chaos. Likely as part of the "rangdan xenocides." Knowing about the mere existence of chaos is almost as bad as actively worshipping the gods. Big E and Malcador couldn't have the primarchs or their sons who partook in the battle blabbing about that. So it was determined that the lost primarchs were to be killed, the marines who were with them purged, and all records of their deeds expunged. A massive cover-up to keep the burgeoning imperium ignorant of chaos' existence. All that effort to censor their existence wasted when the Horus Heresy came around, which was too big and too devastating to ever full cover up or deny the existence of.

I’d like to believed the reason why Two Primarchs were expunged *was to erase proof of Emperor’s heinous crime* Two of them were unlucky enough to stumble onto evidences of Thunder Warrior’s fate, and able to pieces together what they, and their fellow Primarchs, really are, what uses are their purpose and their own future. And let’s just put it all in that Malcador, as Emperor’s right hand man has a dip of dirt on his hand …makes me wonder what the Emperor is. Not who - *what* - because Emperor is not the God, neither one of the Chaos Gods. *He’s even worse*

Narrator: "He felt like a little bitch." (One of my favourite moments in Canon. Malcador finally having enough of this shit and one demigod on his knees and two others pleading for his life.)

Im no traitor buuutt….. Horus was right to feel betrayed

My custodian brothers were never redconed...

I always assumed that Horus saying “M… Mal …al” was actually his trying to say his dead brother’s name rather than pleading to Malcador. Showing that both Horus would not yield or back down. And that he truly loved his brothers and wanted to do what was right. Sort of a foreshadowing of his refusal to back down or yield during the Heresy. Let alone why he betrayed the Emperor in the first place.

I have liked this video and singlehandedly stopped the entire Horus Heresy from ever happening. The Chaos Gods fear my power.

Seems so insane to me the two lost primarchs for all intents and purposes never existed yet the traitors and especially Horus are infamous. Surely they are deserving of a worse fate in the history of the Imperium.

I always fìnd it interesting that the two primarchs who were with Horus were Khan and Alpharius (possibly Omegon since he was the one who was friendly with Horus) one decided to stay loyal which shows Horus fall and the other joined Horus and died while Omegon ( Alpharius) also sided with they loyalists

It was in this moment that Horus learned the truth. The Emporer did not care about anyone, only his vision of what humanity should be. He didn't even care for his sons who had labored so hard in making the Emperium a reality. He didn't even see them as sons; just tools to be used in the construction of his vision and tossed aside when they had no further use. Horus wasn't certain what path he would take now. But one thing he did know was that he refused to be the Emporer's tool any longer.

Two Steps From Hell, good choice of music!