Laurie Perez reports from Malibu, where residents and city officials are being accused of attempting to keep public beaches a secret by removing a group of signs that relayed information on how to reach Lechuza Beach.
@@bayareatrap890Luke 6:20-21 "Blessed are the rich, for the rich give the poor something to aspire to". Right? There is no hate, like Christian "love".
I lived in California for 55 years. It was very upsetting while walking along the beach to come up to a sign that said “private beach, no public access “. It’s just wrong!
This is the same thing going on in flagstaff and Sedona Arizona we can't access the parks or mountains because there's tons of signs that say private property.
its like this everywhere. i got into riding dirtbikes in Montana for a few years. and it never fails. any trail. any public road. you hit a Private signs. " tresspassers will be shot" makes no sense. people own everything. every inch of land is private apparently in the united states. @@Xeniumnebula
So why are the gardeners all parking in public parking spaces anyway? Don't the millionaire's who hire them have driveways and parking spaces?....like really nice accommodating driveways and parking spaces for their party guests?
I lived in Laguna Beach for 20 years and this was always a issue also. But coming from a past resident (me) let me tell you why. First, of course is our little residential street would fill up by 10AM on a sunny weekend, understandable. What ISN'T understandable was the trash left behind, 24 can boxes of empty beer, dozens of fast food bags...then there is the urination before they drive off or the music and pot smoking before that drive home. We've had a few get sick in the street from to much booze...SO...There is a reason to keep access secret.
Citizens fought for twenty years in court in order to have access to Malibu beaches. It’s obvious that the city is still trying to keep people away from these beaches.
But still benefit from the taxes paid by the public for the upkeep of the beaches! Someone needs to advise them that they can't "have their cake and eat it too"!
We started going to Malibu around 1960 and they were already trying to keep people off the beach. Nothing new, but as more and more of the Hollyweed people have moved there they have pressured the city to help them make it all private. This goes beyond anything the city is allowed to do under state law!
It's the law in the entire U.S.A. that all coastal beaches up to the high-tide mark are public property for everyone to use. The sandy beaches are public, but not the grassy dunes or the cliffs overhead.⛱️
I'll tell you what happened: one or more of the property owners next to the beach called their good ol' boys buddies with connections in Public Works to help them out. It's easy to find out who initiated all this by looking at who filed the obvious false safety concerns and who approved the removal.
We had similar occur here in SW MO with the Lindenlure public access ordeal a few years ago. In their case the people had connections with the sheriff, county administrators and county property records keeper. Look it up.
@@paul06660 i just looked it up and it looks like the government is completely correct and the land owner is being purposefully obstinant. its very rare that a judge in Missouri, especially Christian County would rule in favor of the public over private property owners
In this case it likely didn't need any approval since the signs where installed by a 3rd party illegally and where never authorized in the first place.
I used to be a waiter at this fancy Italian restaurant right by coast in Malibu. I can tell you these type of behavior mainly comes from the celebrities that live there. They want to be able to just walk down to the beach undetected/unnoticed. It's also really pathetic how city officials and law enforcement almost wanna cater to these guys as if the rest of us don't also pay our taxes.
Do you have any idea how much more revenue those celebrities generate for the state than you ever could? Im not saying its right, im saying that if you expect people to sacrifice for the benefit of others then youre going to be disappointed your whole life
@@GaMeRfReAkLIVEbeaches are public. It hardly matters what “celebrities ” contribute….funny you think so. Citizens pay more tax as they don’t have shelters
Similar thing happening in Jamaica. Public beaches being privatised by the government and use restricted. You have to pay to acess, cannot carry your own food, but must purchase from the restaurants there which many can't afford. Akin to a sort of beach apartheid.
Ive had the cops called on me in Alabama. Florida, and Cali for being on a private beach. They all just asked me to leave. No worries I just left, but not before I got some beach time. Went to lake Michigan righy outside Milwaukee recently, beach parking had like 30 parking spots and cars all along the road had tickets on the window. I went around the corner, found a parking lot, and cut through the woods. Cant stop me from getting in the water anywhere I go son!!
I would say, to return the tax payer’s money back. The Californian state or county should cut off Malibu from wildfire relief funds in exchange for the public beaches. I think it works out knowing the residents of Malibu can afford to rebuild their own homes. For a change, the tax money would be applied to better causes.
They are always in court for this. It’s an ongoing issue. Plenty of rich beach front owners have also been taken to court for locking gates to public paths, hiding public paths, etc
When you try to go the Hollywood sign, it gives you the gps directions. You get there and there's 100 signs saying there's no direct access so you drive around for an hour trying to find a spot to park..... Unless you ignore those signs posted by the residents that don't want people there, than you will see the easy PUBLIC access 5 away from the hiking trail.... PUBLIC!! Don't want people around your home, get a home in a private community!!
I was at a beach on the Florida panhandle called Sunnyside, and we were told by a guy that puts out beach rentals that we were not allowed to put our stuff on the left side of the public beach access stairs because that side of the beach is “private property”, so this story doesn’t surprise me at all.
Rich people think they are entitled to do what ever they want. They own the city council with their donations and bribes. Public means public not private!
@@seamoreplant I am entitled because I am rich,duh! How would you like to pay a small fortune for a house on the beach and watch in horror as ghetto dwellers come and destroy everything? We worked our butts off to get where we are,why should we allow scumbags,thugs,criminals,illegals and people without morals to pollute our clean/pristine environment? We will not watch our neighborhood turn into Detroit,Baltimore,Chicago,mobile or any other 3rd world city!
When the public treats the land like they are in Detroit, people with morals will say something,not everyone is fooled by the fake news and bs tv shows that glorify those people!When the public trashes once beautiful property they lose any right to gain access. The ghetto dwellers and illegals leave trash everywhere,urinate in the street,vomit all over the place,use/sell drugs,fight,yell constantly,play loud ghetto music at all hours and shoot each other! With conduct like that,it’s no wonder that decent and law abiding citizens don’t want them there!
It's called vandalism and yes, it's a fineable offense in this case. Just keep fining them the amount it costs to replace the signs...... Including labor costs....maybe they'll get tired of having to pay for their crimes. Increase the fines daily if they refuse to pay! The public, who are the victims, shouldn't also have to foot the bill to replace vandalized property.
@@ronaldturner4849 unfortunately the property owners would take you up on that, this is a very wealthy area. The counter threat from the city is to condemn homes on either side of the access and build a larger path and parking lot, which they can do if pushed.
they have been doing this for decades all across Malibu, Laguna beach, and in San diego. They hide the signs or remove them all together, or put up illegal gates, or you get harassed by homeowners along the access road if you park along the road, who will threaten to call a tow company or the police if you walk across their beach for trespassing. I've even had residents attempt to educate me on where their property line is on the beach itself, because I was swimming and the current pushed me into a resident's "so called private beaches". They literally will come out of their property to confront you, to politely educate you. All BS of course, but as a high school kid at the time, not knowing any better, you tend to believe the adults.
Reminds me of a time in the 70s when Daytona Beach used to have houses and sand dunes. One crazy old lady did not want you on the beach behind her house...... Guess where my dad and uncle went every time we went to the beach
@@CowneloAlvaroid Yup, as a person that likes to go hiking I've seen it all. Some beautiful trails require passage through private property and the owners have taped it off to make it look like construction is going on even though there never is. Lots of people post signs saying "PRIVATE PROPERTY STAY AWAY" just to mislead travelers. Near the coast, I've seen homeowners leave their garbage cans out or even leave piles of gravel at parking spots in front of their home so that people can't park and go to the beach. In the Delta, lots of private farmland that lay barren but they are quite territorial if you try to fish; the public spots are very few, often closed, and crappy.
It should be that way, there’s way too many people who wanna go out and enjoy nature but don’t take care of it and they just trash it and make nice natural places look dirty.
@@josephkellehhan2353 No, it shouldn't be that way. Just because some people are bad doesn't mean you can force everyone to not be allowed to do anything. That's like saying "Well, there was a murder at this festival 4 years ago so there will no longer be any festivals anywhere in this county." I pick up trash and fishing line at all the local spots I visit, not everyone is an entitled asshole.
They want to own their own private beaches, but they can't. So now they hide it from the public because they don't want poor people by their homes. Don't buy a beach house by a beach if you don't want to deal with strangers. Everybody has a right to use the beach and parks, like come on.
The People didn't always have that right, and in many places they still don't. The fact is, most of the people, like yourself, who insist on figuring out how to access these beaches are just assholes trying to "assert their rights" because that's all they have in life.
Actually, the story is a lot more complicated than that. I have family that lives in the area and I have a friend there (a marital lawyer, natch) and it's because most of the people that use it that aren't from the neighborhood or part of the HOA (or associated with it) leave a wreck behind. It's been going on since 2007, apparently, and whenever people come down from the northern states to these "hidden alcoves" it's been a fight and a half to get them to behave, because very few of them pick up after themselves. The local council likes tourists, because it drives up the margins, but at the same time they leave it to the people who live nearby to clean up after them. It was so bad that one point it was normal to have beer bottle cuts because some FSU (or UM) kids would have these frat sex parties in these hidden alcoves and leave chaos in their wake. The neighborhood has taken it into their own hands and has basically told people to fuck off, because here's the thing: if you KNOW where the beach is, you don't NEED a sign to tell you where it is, which, more often than not, means that you're responsible enough to be a frequent visitor or live near enough in proximity to be able to enjoy it. At the same time it IS unlawful for them to take down the signs, but if anything, there should be more emphasis placed on tourists being responsible when they visit. My friend says that nowadays kids are a lot more well behaved and are actually picking up after themselves, but the HOAs and the neighborhood are operating on a "cut me twice" basis and it's really hard to get them to change ways. In fact, at one point, they did try to put up "clean up after yourself" signs ... but the council removed THOSE because they weren't "official" signs and the council didn't want to put it up themselves. It's just a lot of distrust on a lot of people's parts, and frankly, it's kinda warranted, I guess.
They do this at Charlie Beach sometimes, I’ve seen them say that the parking spots were only for residents that live in the building and some guy spray painted one of the signs above.
This is Nothing new; coastal access signs are removed all the time all along the California coast by the residents that don’t want to share public beaches. 😢
one of the shameful things is that the city traffic inforcement is constanlty ticketing and even towing cars from that area. No defined parking places confusuing signs all in a bid to stop people from accessing the beaches.
This happens in Half-Moon Bay a lot, mostly residents trying to close the sidewalks so no one parks in front of their house as if they own the sidewalks 🙄
Did you call and report them. I am from San Diego and have never heard such a thing. When fishing I have had property owners invite me in for a beer. Were you surfing? I know surfers can get territorial with other surfers but they also get arrested for it.
Well... Looks like after this story and the City of Malibu coverup being exposed, KCalers that watch this story will forward it to SoCal natives. Expect SoCal to show up in droves to Lechuza beach 🏖️ for fun in the sun 🌞
@@VoteForBukeleexactly. I understand the public having access, but NO ONE of self respect regardless of soeconomic standing, wants 2 types of trash littering our beaches. Yes they're being snobs, but the comment moron is a loud, obnoxious gutter trash no one wants around except other loud, obnoxious gutter trash
@@VoteForBukeleow do you break a beach? The natives of Malibu are the kind of ppl that leave all their trash everywhere they go. They're only a part of So Cal when they need funding for fires or landslides, otherwise they feign ignorance and work behind the scenes to keep people out. Socialism for them, and Capitalism for the rest of us, that's the kind of NIMBYs that live there and do shit like this.
It’s common, a kayak rental company in Huntington Beach was covering the coastal access signs till we complained. The city did actually make them uncover the sign
I’ve seen many public areas and access to places in wealthy neighborhoods camouflage as if they are private property, that should be 100% prohibited to do
It is. Next time go into that public space.. if I see something like that I trample all over it just to get a response.. my neighbor actually thinks he owns the sidewalk in front of his house because he repaired a crack in it 22yrs ago and he tells my son he can't ride his bicycle down the sidewalk, so we both get on our bikes and we ride that motherfuker all day
It's like saying, if you live in a park, you can hide off public access to the park because you wanted all to be on backyard just because you live in a beach. It doesn't mean you can block off access.
Are we even surprised that wealthy Americans are behaving in an entitled way? If it’s public land all people are entitled to use it. I suggest all people in SoCal make a point of visiting these beaches frequently
Yeah well all those people own guns. So if you think you're going to go there and pull any bulshit..... I would think twice. All gun owners... When you own millions of dollars worth of property you own many guns.😂💯
I think this is hilarious. They attempted to cut the signs down and have them removed so that they could keep public access to this public beach to an absolute minimum but now literally everyone knows about it.
Because the state placed them. Its nonsense and the city likely has no jurisdiction to mess with the signs. The judges will decide this and not the local corrupt one.
Is a private beach legal here? A: The California Constitution guarantees public access to California's coast (Article X, Section 4). The longstanding California Coastal Act mandates “maximum access, which shall be conspicuously posted” to carry out the constitutional requirements.
EXACTLY EXACTLY HOWEVER KEEP IN MIND THAT WHILE YOU'RE ON THESE PROPERTIES THAT ARE WORTH MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.... THESE MILLIONAIRES OWN MANY GUNS!!! LOL. WELCOME TO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS!!! LOL.
@@JayDee1785 not even liberal. Even conservatives who defend law will tell you they dont own the beach. Not surprised that a criminal like you would defend those rich snobs.
I went to the beach in Malibu on Saturday. We had to go through rocks to get in. When I tried to leave through this exit that’s clear to the outside this douchey lifeguard told me that this is a private club and I’m not allowed to exit there.
We tried to access some of the public beaches at Malibu, but it was tough to find parking! There were very few places we can find parking and they were all taken. We gave up. You can tell the don't want you there.
Yeah, exactly nobody should be excluded from any part of the beach. The residence do not on the beach or the ocean just because they’re rich doesn’t give them the right to do whatever they want.
Most cities have a sign code and procedures for erecting signs. And usually a permit is required in advance. Any sign installed without a permit is considered non-conforming, eg elon musk's annoying and illegal giant X and any post sign installed on public or private property. These are commonly known as bootleg signs.
Instead of removing the signs, the city of Malibu can use this opportunity to reinforce measures for sanitation, public access routes to the beach, and structural integrity for private homes and residences surrounding the beach. This is an opportunity to “THINK”!
@seeharvester He means that they should add public restrooms, garbage cans, drinking fountains, and concrete paths, and they should reinforce cliffsides under houses to prevent landslides onto visitors below on beaches.
@@Mary_Thompson That's hilarious! They want to prevent, not invite. If they do like you suggest, the next thing you know they'll have a homeless encampment. Like the rest of SoCal.
As a Malibu resident WE DO NOT CARE if ppl come to the beaches. This right here sounds personal. my backyard is connected to the beach and ppl could see into my backyard. Idc as long as they respect our property and please pick up your trash. And leave the seashells alone.
In Missouri a few years back there was a rather large lawsuit that came about after a neighborhood association tried to do an illegal land grab downstream of Lindenlure Lake. It was ultimately won, but during proceedings there were 2 ton concrete blocks placed to block the entrance. And it was the third attempt to block access over the course of a ten year period. One time they went as far to paint marker paint on 30 ton boulders in the river, then smeared the top of the dam with grease mixed with broken glass. A small dam that was used by children to play on during the hot summer.
@@CrowSpirit1977 half the problem there are two Missouris, the rural and urban parts are basically two different universes, though sadly, they both have major crime issues especially illegal drugs, ie your urban gangs and in the rural areas you have your Hillbilly Mafia
Heard about that, we have similar issue here in Brentwood MO, were all beneficial parks like playgrounds and walking/jogging trails are regulated to the NE quadrant were the streets are public but the residents still act it's their fiefdom were as the park in South Brentwood is pretty much for the high school's sports
It’s true because they also will plant bushes. This was back on the early 2000s and it was a secret access point that only locals know of. Not a new situation at all!!
Some property owners and residents have tried to deter the public from going to the beach by hiring security guards, putting up fake no-parking signs, painting curbs red and locking or blocking access ways.
@@mattp4079 ……hopefully the public are respectful at the beaches, not littering, no loud music, etc. Can you imagine spending $20 million for a house, only to listen to Cardi B “music”, and look at Burger King wrappers?!?
Rich people never cease to amaze me in the ways they gatekeep 😒 When I visited Rincon, PR, the locals were protesting on the beach because the residents who lived along the beach were trying to privatize it smh Nature belongs to everyone.
This happens in a lot of areas, It's common along rivers up where I'm at once people become residents they try to block access down to certain parts of the river.
They should move to the sticks with a 2 mile driveway if that's what they want. Plenty of huge houses up in the north woods, but that isn't glamorous enough for them
No surprises here. Entitled and arrogance is completely alive and well in Malibu. Signs or not, if the public should have access they are still allowed to go there.
That's exactly why you're not wanted. And there is nowhere to spend your money. All you have is people's properties lol and you best make sure that you don't trespass on any of their property
This happen to me on the road to Hana, we followed the map and it took us to local area beach or the people Who lived in the area and when we got to the location it had bunch of signs “dead end, don’t enter” but there was a entry path but due to signs we just ended up going back up and continuing our drive
In Canada and the UK, you can not own bodies of water or the shoreline next to them. If you own all the property around the body of water you must provide a public access point every so and so feet for people to be able use.
Making beaches accessible to the public is also a problem here in my country. Most of the beaches are inaccessible because there are private properties being built beside them. Some of those properties wants you to pay them just to enter and gain access to the beach in front of them. There should be a law that all beaches in every country should be freely accessible to the public. And that every properties and houses being built near them should provide a public passageway in between other properties so people can easily pass right through them to the beach without paying or travelling far just to find a beach access area. The problems is also the same for our other tourist spots, private properties our build in areas considered best viewing areas so that people would have to pay for that perfect selfies.
