i think things would have been more in the inventors favor if he compared his bottle to other reusable bottles vs bottled water- since they are both used in different ways. like how metal bottles are usually a bit heavy and take up space but his is both plastic and can be made smaller when empty. Basically sell the idea of a space/weight problem rather then act like another reusable bottle is going to replace prepackaged water. And i think the dragons ran with it since the bottled water was a huge part of the inventors presentation/why he wanted to sell the bottles. that's just my idea tho- i'm not gonna act like i'm a business expert
@@GwyndolinOwO That's what I thought this was going to be! Unfortunately, I'm not sure how useful they'd be since you still need to extend it to full size to contain anything in it. I guess it'd be slightly convenient to carry as a cup if you empty it after to fit it in your pocket again, but other than that... And it looks like the kind of plastic that kinda stinks after use.
That one guy was like, "how are people going to take the time out of their busy schedules to find a place to fill it up?" Umm, the same way they already do with reusable bottles? And it would probably take just as much if not more time if they had to keep purchasing bottles every time they got thirsty during their "busy schedules"...
Because he doesn't compare himself to reusable bottles so they attack on what he fucked up. But for the sake of it let's see what would happen if he did: Does it keep your drink cool or warm? No. Is it impact resistant like a plastic sport one? No, actually we replace it if you break it (extra cost for no profit and delay on consumer end). Is it actually smaller to carry? While it is filled no (having it empty on hand leave limited benefit to consumer because it doesn't serve it's primary purpose holding liquid). Do you consider it green when you have bamboo reusable water bottle? I mean it's still plastic. Is the design appealing? If you like accordeon. Jhon R sorry for that but maybe you should stop purchasing on a whim to consider upsides and downside of what you are buying. Those guys are leagues above in comparason www.kickstarter.com/projects/903801945/hunu www.kickstarter.com/projects/carryhitch/hitch-your-bottle-and-cup-belong-together
I love how, instead of criticizing this guy's "invention", they're attacking the idea of water bottles as a whole, as if there isn't a market for them.
"Do you honestly believe people go around with this in their pocket looking, in their busy schedules, for somewhere to fill it?" Last I checked finding a water fountain or a sink is like a hundred times easier than going into a store and waiting in line to buy a bottle of water every time you're thirsty. Do they seriously not use water bottles in the UK or something?
Well for one, it's a reality tv show. Some of this is quite scripted. Furthermore, these guys are throwing shade at the concept because it isn't outright a cut into the water bottle industry as a whole. Its seen as more profitable to sell something that can be used once then tossed then something that can be used over and over again. It's why there are so many water bottle brands out there today. It is still much more profitable to be the problem then be the solution in that industry.
@@stuckincollege1778 key word, plastic. Plastics are not biodegradable. That’s the large part of his argument, there’s been a lot of cutdown on plastic usage
Do you guys actually watch the streams? Remember this is a RU-vid highlight video so he fills it with more jokes then the video hes reacting to, on stream he talks less
@@qu1v3r I agree with you. The big issue is that he likes uploading these half assed/ uninspired twitch clips from his streams all the time. When he makes actual videos with jokes he writes they usually work
The British Dragons aren't close to billionaires, Peter Jones is the richest worth around 300million, some of the others have 10-20million, not poor by any means but not Mark Cuban levels of throwing money away.
As a former Boy Scout, I had one of those water bottles whenever I went camping. As great as the design is on paper, unlike the aluminum bottles everyone is using these days, the “pocket bottle” easily heated up because it did not have much of a cooling system, so the water isn’t refreshing after about 20 minutes in the hot sun. In other words, hiking and even just camping doesn’t have that cooling refreshment other bottles had. The concept is great, especially in regards to a hiking backpack, but the bottle easily heats up. At least the design was prior to me abandoning the bottle over 3 years ago.
It’s not as bad when you live somewhere really cold already, I used one for all my band concerts, especially handy for marching band. But I was bullied out of marching band so I haven’t used it in a while
Doesn’t seem like that bad of an idea for a daily driver, I always have a water bottle on me 24/7 and being able to fold it up and put it in a cargo pocket until I find a fountain
"So you want to replace water bottles with your own water bottle ?" "Yes" "How is this different from other water bottles ?" "Well first of all, it's mine."
0:45 He's right. Nestle's long term business plan (which was leaked in the early 2000's) is to buy most of the land near clean water (which means they own the water that passes through it) until they have a majority globally and then just turn into Shell or Esso and start charging everyone globally for water, just like gas. They want to remove it as a commons and make it an asset. Many will die but Nestle says it's the only way to regulate the scarce resource.
This bottle actually has good hiking applications. Whenever I've gone on a multiday hike the biggest problem I've faced is the amount of space I have to carry things. I use a camelback to drink but it is hard to get water out of a camelback to cook or wash my hands/face with. I throw a water bottle in my bag and it uses a lot of space both full and empty. I could easily put a compact version of this in my bag. Fill it up at a stream to cook/use and when I want to pack up my campsite. I could re-compact the bottle and have the extra space. It doesn't look fashionable but no one cares that much about it when you are alone in the wilderness.
@@LordSandwichII Not nearly to the same extent as an actual reusable water, the plastic of a disposable bottle gets worn out quicker and they get filthy, that's why they're *disposable*, crazy, I know.
@@NireFuster Disposable water bottles are surprisingly resilient, that's why plastic pollution is such a problem. Also, if you always remember to rinse them out, they will stay clean.
the bottle is actually a good invention. saves alot of space plus you dont NEED to finish the whole bottle, you can fold it as you go to meet the same water level
@@ummwhodidnt lol i like the pfp Edit: I just realized i @ the wrong person, his pfp is funny but im white so kinda sad, i meant that i liked @andrey diaz's pfp
I thought the title said “Man Inverts Bottle that Holds Water.” I was prepared to see a cool magic trick. What I saw was a collapsible, reusable water bottle.
@chubbyurma Because it's free advertising. Even if one of the few people in the room aren't interested, a multitude of other investors around the globe might be.
The concept is nice, but it has already been done a long time ago, and didn't take off much. It has advantages, such as taking lesd space EVEN when half filled: you can just compress whatever part is still empty, and it will be smaller than a normal bottle the same size. And it's always with you
fucking hell, been binging moist recently, i cant help but realize how relentlessly funny his older videos are (STILL LOVE THEM NOW, BUT GUDDAYM YOU WERE SO QUICK WITH THE JOKES) Much love
Seeing that the guy who made the bottles is now a millionaire makes me think those so called Dragons don't know shit... Either that or they have some stock on a bottle-making company.
@@DANCERcow I've got a bottle like it and it honestly sucks. You could just as well take a normal bottle with you. Not that I think the guy doesn't deserve it tho, he does seem like a nice guy :)
That style of water bottle was used by NASA in the 70's and 80's so astronauts could drink in zero gravity ... as you drank from it you would slowly collapse the bottle and the water would force out.
The funny thing is that this guy actually became a millionaire by selling his bottles. He sold hundreds of thousands of them and proved those stupid investors that being stupid rich doesn't stop you from being stupid.
It's literally just a water bottle, and he did a shit job of selling it at that. I mean seriously? His plan was to let people know where they can fill up with shitty tap water? lmao nah. I'm amazed M&S gave him a chance at all with a pitch like that. But I guess it is true what they say: no such thing as bad publicity. As far as I'm concerned they just got very lucky. I would not have gambled my finances on that kind of venture.
@@kristupasjuska799 Eh, maybe. Memory can be a funny thing but I recall having things like this when I was a kid. Albeit never very popular and probably not as durable or flexible as the modern versions.
The most annoying thing about most reusable water bottles is having to lug them around afterward. This bottle fixes this. It's basically a straight up improvement.
The premise is being able to easily carry the bottle when empty and the dude made millions off of this idea. I think as of january 2020 hes sold over 1,000,000 units
Its straight up funny how often these guys are like "this is a stupid idea trust me I'm the entrepreneur" and a couple months later its the biggest trend
@@germangamingvideos6069 I legitimately never felt the need for a refillable bottle. Maybe it's just the thing in my country, but no one really uses refillable bottles. You just go to a store and buy yourself some if you're feeling thirsty. Refillable bottles sound like extra steps for no reason to me
@@GaranNoDou298 its more about an eco-friendly decision than something easier to use with a refillable bottle you just keep filling it up whenever you want, it will probably last your for a few years and then you can get a new one the amount of trash you produced is a single bottle meanwhile with regular plastic bottles you drink the water and then trash the bottle, in a few years you have produced tons of plastic trash, and considering not everyone drops their trash in trash cans it just hurts the environment a looooooot more than using refillable bottles
To be fair, I bought some of these before I even knew it was on here. They're useful if you go camping and need extra containers. It saves room in the backpack when they're folded up.
The whole episode revealed that if u don't use the bottle 4 or 5 times it's not more reusable that the toss able bottles which u can reuse and comes pre packaged with quality water and are highly recyclable.
I don't see how why this is getting such massive hate for literally being your regular water bottle but better. Like, it's literally reusable but instead of it being bulky when it's empty you can make it compact after its empty so I mean it's literally just a straight upgrade from a regular water bottle in every way.
@@burgledungpee2947 Yeah but you have to gorilla crush a normal bottle into oblivion in order to store it in your pocket, while all you have to do is fold this bottle to store it
I feel like that would be a really good invention for runners though. Like nobody likes holding a bottle while running when you're done with it. So imagine having a nice little foldable bottle to put in your pocket.
Personally, as a runner I don’t drink water when I’m running. For longer distance like 10-26 miles, or long hikes, this thing would save so much space…though it could be a bit bigger
If you really need to carry water on a long run you'd just use a camelbak, that small amount of water held by the bottle wouldn't be practical. Besides, it doesn't seem very ergonomic either.
@@fxxalaba3836 did you even read the comment? The bottle is full when you pick it up. You drink the water, then fold it up and put in your pocket. How you missed that point is beyond me.
It’s perfect for me because I often bring four heavy water bottles with me travelling so when I needed the extra space I could drink two and fold them up
"It's unimaginable that people would carry this waiting for a chance to fill it up" Me: literally carries a full size non-disposable bottle because I want water and don't mind filling from fountains.
I wouldn't be filling up from fountains. Many public space water features are treated with biocides and other chemicals to prevent outbreaks of legionnaires disease.
Yeah..... why would I spend money every time I want a drink. It makes far more sense to carry around a bottle and refill it than waste money every time I'm thirsty. The "dragons" must be completely out of touch with reality.
Tbh he should have pushed the collapsible water bottle as a camping supply/disaster management type of thing where being collapsible and being able to chuck a few in your kit/send a crate of 10,000 at once to a disaster area could have a great market
@@alvincarlos2897 but why are you holding a bottle of water in the first place? The main issue with this product is that once you use it you collapse it, but how many people are just going about their lives with water bottles in their hands? Usually it's in bags or kept at home/offices, which in both cases you don't need it to be able to collapse because you already have the space for it, not to mention the size of that bottle wouldn't be worth it.
That's way better than what I was doing. I just kept it cupped in my hands. Made a really big mess whenever my wife's boyfriend kept bumping into me :/
Accordion water bottles have existed since the 90s, at least. I remember having them growing up. They suck because the bends would crack with a bit of use.
FlexViper I'm 6'4 and 220 pounds but inside i have the confidence of a little girl because i'm a depressed and anxious mess. Don't judge people, you never know.
@@andir8119 I think he wasn't judging directly that guy directly but more how he behaved.. personelly I respect people with confidence a lot but there is a difference between being confident and being a pretentious idiot.. And that guy was being strongly revolting
This man is way too arrogant, i think at some point Jojar S Dhinsa offered him £90m for his company but he rejected it. Now he is selling his properties after his sales dropped to the ground due to everyone finding out about his personality.
Charlie we need to talk, we all like your commentary but when your voice booms over the initial video to the point of drowning out what theyre saying it kind of goee against the whole point of making the video, how about you try flipping the volume ratios.
His reaction videos are just him loudly cracking jokes over the videos, but I don't understand the context because I can't hear the original content. He needs to pause the video to make jokes/comment.
That bottle invention is amazing, although People who live in a convenient life would not find it helpful since they like to show off how good looking the bottle they have. For someone who just wants a drink and clean water bottle, with that I want a water bottle that I can get my hands in, and clean it. That's it.
Honestly, that accordion bottle thingy isn't that of a bad idea. Seems somewhat useful for hikers or so. Even in the military, maybe? You can simply fold it and save a lot of space for other stuff.
Hikers and militaries tend to use hydration packs. You wear them on your back and they carry way more water(~2-3L). You can also get backpacks that either have space for a bladder or come with one installed. With those, the empty bladder takes up an equal or less amount of space than that bottle does. Camelbak has been supplying the US military with several types of hydration packs for over a decade. Personally, I use a backpack from Osprey with a 2.5L bladder when hiking. Hydration packs have a huge advantage over this in that you don't need to carry them in hand when full, and they have hoses that are easier to drink from while walking. I don't think it comes out well in the video, but the problem the guy's bottle faces is that it doesn't really have a market that isn't already covered by something better. People buy disposable water bottles on impulse, they want a bottle filled with water RIGHT NOW, and aren't currently carrying a bottle. You're not tapping into those sales by asking them to carry a bottle in anticipation of needing one. His bottle has to compete against other reusable bottles. Regular reusable water bottles aren't heavy or bulky enough to make the collapsible bottle more attractive. I've been carrying a reusable water bottle at work for ~6 years, and I've never had a problem with it taking up space when empty. Most bottles have some kind of loop so you can have your hands full, and still carry the bottle with your pinky. Yes, his bottle fits in a pocket when empty, but you need to commit a whole hand to carry it when full. A hiker/camper is concerned with packing space, but why buy this over a bottle that has a filter that can remove bacteria and parasites from pond/stream water? His bottle will take up just as much space when full, but you can't refill it out in nature. TL;DR: The problem isn't that there is no market for easy-to-carry reusable water storage. The problem is that all of the potential markets are already saturated with better products from heavy-hitters like ThermoFlask, Camelbak, Osprey, or LifeStraw. I like where the guy's head is at, but he was beat to the punch a long time ago.
@@breadcan parents with multiple children. You got 4 kids on an outing somewhere, each one's got their own water bottle but you don't want them to carry it around empty because they'll set it down and forget it. Once it's empty. Fold it up, stick in your bag until you can refill it. Easier to carry than 4 12oz hydroflasks or whatever.
@@ImOblivious A regular child's water bottle isn't that much more inconvenient to carry around when empty. I agree with breadcan. It's not that there isn't a market for this sort of thing. It's that there's way better products in that market, or this product doesn't do a good enough job to justify its own existence for most people. The guy may have sold a couple of them, but they're not getting popular anytime soon. I've not seen a single person have one of these collapsible bottles over just a regular reusable bottle. And when you can't even convince the average person like myself to take this smaller collapsible bottle over my giant 40oz metal bottle, then it's just not going to flood the market. That being said, the sharks here were just ridiculous with their criticisms. The product isn't terrible. It just isn't good enough for an already oversaturated market.
I think focusing on a specific market would definitely help. I've seen a lot of cutesy collapsible pet and kid water bottles - maybe adding cute gimmicks to it like some solid graphic design or coming with a bag to hold it in, something like that, might have gotten a bite from the investors on the show.
@@Enysum Maybe. A lot of successful products seem to only be successful because they targeted a specific demographic that they knew would be interested in them.
@@theshiznits2020 indeed, and you see the same kind of thing in X Factor and other reality TV shows: idiots who think they're good at something but fail and then become super defensive.
Jokes aside, the bottle was actually a success* and the company has sold 100 000 over 15 different countries * edit: Apparently 100 000 bottles sold isn't that much, so maybe it isn't a success, but at least it isn't the complete disaster it's portrayed as in the video
Yeah I remember my classmates using these cause it was better than plastic bottles because those bottles give you a very harmful chemical after a few days of reusing a plastic bottle when this bottle is storable, small and good for the environment
For me personally, I really didn't like my collapsible bottle. I guess I might be able to see how it is useful for some people, but I just found it a hassle to use.
@@Ryyi23 Yeah that's what I expected the bottle to be like; annoying to uncompress and annoying because water would stay in between the bends when you drank from it. I don't think it sells thanks to its practicality, but rather thanks to the impression it gives. I bet kids would fall for the concept quite easily.
