@@heiligerjesus1960 Diese Fahrfehler kommen bei Kettenfahrzeugen deutlich seltener zum Tragen, denn wenn es um Traktion geht, sind da Welten Unterschiede zwischen Unimog (und sonstigen Radfahrzeugen) und Kettenfahrzeugen. Mit Kettenfahrzeugen kannst du sogar regelrecht Bäume ausreissen, da gibt es jede Menge Videos davon.
+Richard Rose agree bout the drivers can't agree with the first statement though unimog is best in its class, but there is undisputable winner in 8x8 category - TATRA 813 KOLOS
+gooLubomir l claims who Tatra commercial? Tatra a very small uninportant noob company with 845 emplyoees they went bankrup and build less than 850 trucks year... with massive support from DAF (engines cabins for Tatra etc) MAN..55.000 employees KT1 and SX and HX 8x8 are build in huge numbers and are used even by US Army and UK Army who ordered huge number of SX and HX to replace their DAF Bedford and Fooden truck fleet
@Thierry Kamette yes, it is possible to do better. they hook up what appears to be a snatch strap at first, which is meant for snatching, not pulling. With the mass of the MAN truck I'd guess you'd probably snatch the Unimog out in 1-2 tries. Additionally, any beach driver knows that as soon as you start spinning your wheels you stop immediately.
Try n to figure out why no one had a proper recovery strap/rope ? The one they use looked like a lite duty for a car and as just a tow strap. So it's not good for a proper tug/yank. Knew right away the chain would not work. Would right from the start used the snatch block and winch cause a stuck vehicle in sand mud snow or other is usually 2X the weight of the stuck vehicle for force needed to do the recovery. Was fun watching tho lol
Wie schön es einfach zeigt, dass so ein mächtiges Fahrzeug mit einem dermaßen inkompetenten Fahrer so viel wert ist wie es ein alter Polo in dieser Situation wäre. Perlen vor die Säue geworfen.
@@martinl.9456 etwas den Reifendruck senken zB. Spätesten wie man sieht das die Räder sich nur eingraben hätte dem Fahrer klar sein müssen das Es so nicht wird!
I’m going to say not, because the winch has more control and the towing vehicle is stationary. (Which is based on my experience off-roading and in mobile plant)
After the first failed attempt to pull it backwards, I would have tried it forwards with the unimog's own winch... But anyway, keeping the wheels spinning for "hours" with nothing happening really freaks me out.
I like all the bystanders keep parking closer and closer kinda limiting the 8x8 what it can do. The Unimog had a winch, not sure why any of the other 20 to 30 trucks there before the 8x8 didnt go to the other side as an anchor point for the unimog to pull itself out. People say the 8x8 got stuck, well sorta but it un-stuck itself.
@ratn9nex, a friend of mine with an old skinny-tyre Land Rover once pulled out a fat-tyred Jeep stuck in the sand dunes. The Jeep guy got stuck because he failed to adjust his tyre pressures.
You can get stuck any vehicle. Every vehicle has its limits. Just underestimate the soil and you "succeeded". Experience tells, with more capable vehicle it is even more likely, as its capability makes the driver to dare worse and worse terrain or becomes more careless about it and viola, you are stuck as heck. Have seen T72 becoming stuck in a mud (in a kind of shallow pond). And irony was, it was getting rescued by PV3S (barely 10 ton truck, so very tiny compare to the tank). Just a light side pull (it was all the PV3S was capable of, even using its winch, given the weight mismatch) was enough for the tracks to get grip on something more solid and finally get out...
Not when the stuck vehicle has its front axle buried in what looks like pretty clay-heavy soil, it won’t move but something will break. They needed to dig more, and do a slow powerful pull with the winch as shown when they finally managed it.
It's not a Unimog 406 (OM352 6cyl. engine, short wheelbase) . It has the long wheel base. So it's 416 (OM352) or 413 (OM314 4cyl. engine), which can not be distinguished by the pictures as I cannot see the engine.
VassilieZaitsev Yup. Seen that much happen. Chains snap. Cackes snap, rope, same thing... I've seen hydraulic hoses break, no fun... I couldn't help but to laugh at your comment. It's sad to see this city people, younger people around such a dangerous situation and, all they want to do is, get close enough to record what may potentially be their own death...
Well, even a tank may have great problems with traction on sand when using usual tracks with rubber pads. 8x8 drive may not be enough to get grip in sand or snow in extrem situations and the MAN KAT A1 got no tire pressure control. Some snow-chains may help...
Hey! Whats this thing on da front of da truck ? Its got a hook on a hard rope. O yea, i forgot. We got ourselves a thingamcbob. Now which button turns it on.😯
The problem is the Unimog's tires are deeply dug in, so part of the tire is hitting the sand where the tire tread is vertical, at the tire's 3'oclock position. It won't roll, it will just try to push the sand. They need a truck tow-truck that can pull the Unimog *up* before it pulls it sideways. (Maybe totally wrong, I'm just a software guy)
Hi, really late on the uptake here hehe, well you are partly right here but the main thing is that wet sand is terrible to get stuck in, you see it settles around the tire and the suction is you main adversary, I have had to pull vehicles out of snow, slush and glacier mud, (worse in every way conceivable, it settles into near concrete, cars have been ripped apart by pulling too hard) namely Man Cats with my Man Cat (IceT) and on one occasion 2 Man Cats and a Cat D6 but that was an unusual one involving Sleipnir getting buried in slush ice more than 2m (6 1/2ft+) deep (look up biggest offroad trucks in the world). I absolutely love the pulling power of the Man Cat but remember this little piece of advise, once all those tires start spinning you ain´t pulling anything out. Btw I have never had to use the winch on mine, not even sure if it works anymore. Oh and for goodness sake don´t pull backwards, I have broken 25ton stretchy rope and you don´t want to have that flying at your face + plus the risk of breaking something in the drivetrain is greatly increased when doing it in reverse. IceT spec 19.5 tons 8x8 with a crane and a flatbed and a whopping 350 horses in full gallop.
@Jon Stephenson - -With great skill, and *very* wrong tires for sand with *too* much air in them, driving very *slowly* due to the bump just prior to the water then goosing it as he hit the water to get out of it quickly.
I was at the beach where this happend, not at the same day, but I can tell you, that below the sand there is a thick layer of clay.. soft with no traction at all, but suction it does have. - yet, pulling the unimog up in that direktion only made it more diffecult, since they had to pull it up against the brink wall and out of the suction at the same time. they could have pulled from the front, then they only had to battle the suction first, and the the brink
Absolutely appalling and unbelievable! Better tyres on the 8x8 would make a big difference and diff locks that work! If not, a long tow rope, to pull from solid ground.
+James Bradley I think he did lock the diffs actually, but he first only had drive to the front 3 axles and later only to the rear 3 axles. No Idea why, I'm sure it has 8wd.
+James Bradley "Better" tires (especially in sand) and more dif locks are unnecessary in a truck this heavy. All he needed to do was use momentum; put slack in the nylon strap and give it a quick jerk to get the uni's tires out of the holes he dug and then just keep moving. I don't know why they didn't just jerk it a little. Not like either truck's hook up points isn't strong enough to take it. Maybe their strap was questionable?
o have there howmany, 6-8 AWD cars, and you need an 8x8 truck to help you. shame on you boys, with a bit of teamwork it would had been a far shorter job.
Hättste wohl gern :D Ich hab das aber schon live erlebt und kann bestätigen: Es kommt vor das Unimogs stecken bleiben. KATs bleiben aber auch manchmal stecken. Aber grundsätzlich kann man sagen, dass sowohl Unimog als auch KAT wohl meistens da stecken bleiben, wo die anderen gar nicht hinkommen ;) - ein KAT-Fahrer
