Yes! Finally.., someone included the axle and gear ratios. I have been waiting forever for that info. I've been searching for months. I knew TFL would deliver, Andre is the Man! He drove that manual like it was a Russian tractor.
I too have REALLY been wanting this info. I have had a very strong hunch that they are using the RC60F or RC61F from the Hilux diesels. The 4.78 1st ratio matches the Hilux too. So while it’s not confirmed, chances are very good. I really hope somehow this can be swappable into the 3rd gen, but I’m also pumped for its use in the 4th gen.
Not a fan of a big screen TV on the dash, but glad to see they haven't killed off the manual transmission yet. This will be on my short list for sure. Thanks for sharing Andre.
Haha I unbolted that chin strap on my '22 Sport minutes after getting into the driveway after taking delivery. Guessing the 4th gen is just a few bolts too
Manuals should be standard on midsize trucks. Makes it that much more enjoyable to drive. It's a requirement for me in my next vehicle purchase, just as it was earlier this year.
I've always said if I have the option to buy a manual I'm buying a manual. Props to Toyota for keeping the manual alive. Shame it's not offered in the TRD Pro
You would have loved the 80's, manual transmissions were standard on everything- cars included. I've owned both, and the manual transmission is a wholly over rated experience. If you put a lot of city miles on your truck, shifting gets old real quick. I can see the appeal of it for highway driving or weekend use.
14:56 Andre thanks for the shout out! I'm glad to see that they had a good downhill section to test the engine braking. Good callout on this truck not being the hybrid, which I'm sure will be helping with regen braking when descending. Can't wait for you guys to get these trucks on the Ike Gauntlet with a camping trailer on the back.
In all seriousness, the engineers should've mounted to big screen television on top of the steering wheel....that way the driver wouldn't be able to see anything out the windshield. What were they thinking?
Been watching a ton of Tacoma first drive videos and am delighted you brought the specs with the gearing on the new Tacos and how they differ between manual and auto. The higher ratio on the manual is "crawl control" for us 3 pedal fans eh? I would like to hear why they detuned the power output on the manual version, hope TFL sleuths out that detail in a later video (my suspicion is EPA but I'd love to know details).
Some nice improvements over the 3rd gen. No more muffler hanging down in the middle of the belly past the frame rails, hopefully the low hanging muffler tip is a pre-production thing. Great they included some basic reservoir shocks on the TRD OR. Hopefully the quicker 4wd shifting meant they got rid of the unreliable shift actuator from the gen 2 and gen 3s. Still no 4auto option on the t-case, like most of the competition. After the expected MPG on the Landcruiser, looking forward to what the Taco will bring. It's crap that the 3rd gen got the same MPG as my v8 fullsizes in the Rockies.
@@beexiong2995 That's great news, as someone else commented it'd be nice if reviewers hit on the fulltime/selectable AWD systems in 4x4s more. Even the manufacturers don't really share how their AWD systems work in their trucks (not talking about standard 4x4 t-case setups here). Ford and GM have had the auto option since ~2012, but are super lacking in info. Jeep's had it for awhile in certain models, but added it as a separate option to when the JL and JT came out.
Love the manual trans. Good video. The interior looks great. But that screen is way to big for that tiny truck. What are you going to do with it, your taxes? 😂
I'm wishing for a manual TRD Pro. Some high speed high jinx with a manual where you can use more than 1 or 2 gears sounds like a riot! And a natural fit, I might add... TOYOTA!! At least it's offered on the TRD OR so I can make my own.
I have always been of the opinion that to test the capabilities of an off-road vehicle, you should not utilize the lockers unless it is 100% needed. All the obstacles you could have just turned on crawl control and eased through it.
Nice review of the new Toyota Tacoma four-wheel drive pickups. Very nice. I respect you folks with TFL for providing objective and honest vehicle reviews. Thank you very much. Andy McKane, Maunaloa, Molokai, Hawaii.
That giant tablet screen is blocking the driver's view. I can't believe the engineers didn't integrate in lower into the dashboard. Talk about distracting, it's dangerous on or off road.
That’s why I bought the ‘23 taco; better integrated screen and the rock solid v6 go course. First time Toyota buyer and can’t wait for my truck to get to the dealer. Getting the TRD sport in lunar rock.
Have you ever driven a car with a screen lol it doesn’t get in the way at all and if its THAT big of a deal there are like 10 cameras and some that face forward so you can see in front of you on that same screen you’re complaining about like it’s really not THAT big of a deal or nuisance
@@Gettfoutrahereloser Yes, my 2018 tacoma has a screen, but it doesn't block the windshield. Why even have a windshield or windows at all? The entire cab could just be a giant screen. Hell, why even leave your house when all you want to do is stare at screens
@@macneoh7418 as someone with a car that has an actual pop up screen Im telling you from actual experience not your boomer ass opinion that it doesnt get in the way like it helps SO much like tf lol
Just watched DST's comparison and was hoping that You guys did the same! Awesome!! I love that Orange! Cant wait for you guys to get a test truck for the Ranch!
No 6ft bed manual transmission options like the old days. I guess every manual transmission off roader on the planet needs seating for 4 over more bed storage.
@gtout… And they also don’t use their trucks for work but LIFESTYLE only. Quite annoying actually. I use the truck for work too and the 5-foot bed is ridiculous for that purpose.
Overall an improvement, lots to like! But the wheelbase is too long for serious off road work. Still disappointing Toyota won’t give us larger factory tires. As an owner of a 2023 Lexus Rx500, the new Toyota infotainment interface is highly annoying. Wayyy too many button presses to get to commonly used features, no set “home buttons” that stay visible in Apple car play, etc. just overall not impressive, especially compared to what Ford and Jeep are offering on new vehicles. That screen also looks weirdly large in this truck.
People who dont like manual transmission are the people who dont know how to drive manual transmissions (90%) The 3rd gen taco with the manual is night and day difference from an automatic and thats the reason why the trd sport was there with sport tuned suspension and people who bought the trd off road nether used the rear diff lock nor took it off road (85%). Its a shame to see people use these as mall crawlers and i am not just talking about the tacos but the jeeps too and thats the sad truth.
you wouldnt want a truck, is that what you mean ?and its ok and i said 90% of people who has this doesnt know how to drive a stick and we are talking about body on frame 4x4 with low range gearing issues as the automatic hunts for gears and if you drove a sedan or any other type of cars , the short stick throws are entirely different from these trucks which have long throws which are for crawl ratio low gears and the point is , a professional looking for a good towing rig would prefer this over the auto which uses the ECT power that makes the engine rev higher for max output which is not ideal. The manuals from 20 years ago are not the same as now.@@seeno1,
My old truck, a 2002 Sonoma, had hydraulic steering with about an inch of play in the steering wheel. I could move the steering wheel about an inch before it would turn the wheels. My new truck, a 2016 Canyon, has electric steering with no play in the wheel. At first, it felt "twitchy" because the steering was so sensitive. After a few minutes, I learned to be more gentle with my steering wheel movements. I didn't need to yank the wheel to get it to respond quickly. Electric steering feels like a quick ratio steering, but after a while, it becomes normal.
I noticed it on the earlier reveal and it doesn't seem to have improved any...What's with the infotainment screen? Toyota has had how many years to build a NEW and integrated interior. It looks like this was thrown together in a few months with hardly any input from consumers. That tablet infotainment screen stuck on top of the dash seriously looks like an afterthought.
Manual transmission, cooled seats, lane keep, ACC, big infotainment screen, physical climate controls, composite bed, good shocks, dif locker, sway bar disconnect, ok take my money.
Nice new Truck. I get the new truck in manual transmission much better truck. Boy truck sounds like little diesel. I hope y’all get the manual transmission one y’all need to buy that one.
That 2018 Nissan is loaded with computers, fuel injectors, regulators and relays. You should buy a 1978 Chevy 1/2 ton, there's no tech on that truck- carburetor, hand crank windows, AM radio, none of that sissy air conditioning crap.
I grew up on a manual transmission, but today I would not even own a manual transmission. I had a 2018 Colorado with a manual transmission and after 6 months I hated it.
I had a 6 sp manual in my 2005 Taco and the long throws and narrow gates look like they are still present in the 2024. No thanks, I hated it and saw Ryan Douthit miss shifts on the 2024 he tested for DSTV. Besides, the crawl feature is not available with the manual. Automatic for me.
On the right trails maybe manual is better , but in this test loop the auto did the trail way smoother . In everyday traffic give me an auto . Way better interior and decent truck . Would take a GMC Canyon though .
Still looks like a uncomfortable seating position that has always plagued the Tacoma. As far a 4 cylinder turbo engines go the GM 2.7 kills this engine in every spec, especially torque which is the most needed element in a truck.
I buy a truck I want it to last; dependability. Question is which is likely to give you problems? I’ll go with Toyota. Plus Toyota is coming out with a hybrid version that’ll get 30mpg and power at gm levels.
There should be a gauge on these expensive 4x4's that shows cost per minute in crawl mode. For what they cost and for how rarely they're used off-road, the numbers would be scary. Most people who own a boat would readily understand.
The interesting part is the crawl mode and other fancy gadgets on a truck are already on every truck. It's just a button that executes a program routine manipulating the different components.
Does anybody reading the comments have any idea if you can calibrate the odometer, speedo, etc to compensate for 33" tires if you were to put them on? I've heard in competing vehicles like Jeeps it can be done pretty simply whereas in older Tacos you had to regear or just live with your speedo not being accurate.
The speedometer should be electronic, driven by the wheel speed sensors. They should be able to drop a correction in at the dealership. Of coarse it isn't that much of a change. It may also end up being like my F150: When I put 33's on it the tires actually corrected the speedometer. It was a little optimistic in stock configuration. It's dead on now.
For as much as I like the manual especially on a turbocharged truck. The hybrid option seems more appealing (if it’s efficient) plus with the long bed.
Would have preferred to see it do the moguls with the locker off to see how the suspension and ATRAC handle it. Bed looks very stiff. Before there was more bed flex to help keep the tires planted in mogul situations.
Some guys mentioned, that the new wide-spread transmission might be out of a hilux Diesel-truck. If that is the case, the transmission could be limited to a certain rpm on the input shaft. Or its just a dynamic redline until the engine is up to operating temperature.
Are they putting the HAC (hill-start assist control) on the TRD Offroad model? With the inability to turn off? This would be a deal breaker for me. Had it subaru, hated it luckily it could be turned off.
I want to drive the new 6spd. Is it a new transmission? Hope they did it better than Jeep did! Crawl ratio is still not in Gladiator territory, and you did not say if the new seating position helped off road.
After having a manual Rubicon (another severely underpowered vehicle), I would go with the automatic. I got tired of shifting all the time to stay in the power.
Not sure which model you had, but my brother has a 4-door JL Rubicon with 35s, and I definitely wouldn’t describe it as underpowered. Unless you’re only off-roading, I don’t know why anyone would by an automatic Jeep. What’s the point? That’s what makes them fun.
@@Holden-McGroin 2015 4 door. I mean it’s severely underpowered compared to any V8 truck. I traded it for a 2019 F150 with the 5.0. Night and day difference.
Andre, ask Toyota why they don't make a free advertisement truck like Ford and Ram? Ranger Raptors, and the like, are merely forms of advertisement. They don't manufacture many of these trucks and don't make much money on there sale, but they get $MM in free publicity and perception. Imagine the 2025 Toyota Tacoma Land King, or Toyota Tacoma KOTH ("King of the hill") edition or Toyota Tacoma Tomahawk- featuring a 3.4L twin turbo v6 with 465 HP and 610 pound-feet of torque at 2,400 rpm, Front locker, rear locker and center locker with a KDSS system. Sure, it would cost $108,000 and Toyota would only make 500 each year, but the Tacoma would be "King of the hill" in everything, including sales!
Man I just can't say it enough, I really hate how the designed the infotainment system so it sticks up like that. I would think that would get in the way of seeing as your driving.